Krauthammer Urges Prosecution of WikiLeaks’ Journalistic Collaborators
The U.S. government “ought to speak about the enablers in the American journalistic community” who have cooperated with WikiLeaks, syndicated columnist Charles Krauthammer urged on Monday’s night’s Special Report on FNC, recommending that if you “collaborate” with WikiLeaks, then “we are going to look into possible prosecution.”
Krauthammer, during the panel segment on the Monday, November 29 Special Report with Bret Baier on FNC:
The real problem here is the helpless that it exposes the United States, the superpower, all its information is out there essentially with everybody enjoying impunity. I think what she [Hillary Clinton] should have said is nothing about the leaks themselves, simply say we're going to ask the military justice and the Justice Department to try to prosecute the alleged leaker, the alleged guy who stole this on treason, not just on mishandling –but on treason and to prosecute him to the fullest extent of the law, up to and including execution if tjat is warranted.
Secondly, WikiLeaks. We should not have our Attorney General saying “oh to the extent ‘a’” or “to the extent if we find ‘a,’” This stuff has been leaked months and months earlier. This guy is the leaker. Why haven't we issued arrest warrants for him and extradition requests?
And lastly, I think they ought to speak about the enablers in the American journalistic community. To say that if you are unlike CNN and Wall Street Journal, who apparently turned down collaboration with WikiLeaks, and you collaborate, we are going to look into possible prosecution.
— Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center. Click here to follow him on Twitter.
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Body Scanner Operator Caught Masturbating at Colorado Airport
Submitted by im41 on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 9:15pm.
Here is a heart warming story for ya!
I wonder if this will make
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 9:40pm.
I wonder if this will make the news.
Fox News or Rush
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 9:45pm.
Fox News and/or Rush should get it out pretty soon. Drudge should get it on his site first since he joined with a couple of others that are against the TSA's antics.
It'll get there soon enough. I bet by tomorrow.
-Jon
Isn't that website
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 9:45pm.
the British "Daily Onion?"
GD Arab
Submitted by miss911ninja on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 9:56pm.
Yes. I became suspicious when the "head of the TSA's scanning department" was credited with asking "What would you rather do, get blown up by a goddamn Arab at 30,000 feet?"
whoops!
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 9:55pm.
You're right, at least in the sense it was satire. Dang.
The helluvit is, the TSA does hire the pervs with records, no questions asked. How long before it actually happens or something like it?
-Jon
From Source to Print
Submitted by Gat New York on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 9:17pm.
The response to this from the Administration is incoherent and has been tepid.
Holder and company have done zero about Wikileaks since its first release about a year ago.
This faux outrage has yet to be matched with conviction to act.
They should act against all sources of the information to Wikileaks - against Wikileaks - against all news media who print what they are fed - and the webhost who enables a website like Wikileaks to even have a platform on the Internet.
Oh come on!
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 9:24pm.
Holder said he's launching a criminal investigation into this. Don't you trust him to take care of things?
I do.
I trust him to take care of things the same way he took care of Ghalani and the Black Panther voting situation.
I have absolute faith in him. Really!
-Jon
Maybe a little heavy on the sarcasm?
Holder's motivation
Submitted by Dan Diego on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 9:51pm.
The first doc dump was mainly pre-Obama and anti-Bush / anti-military, this one hits Duh One's admin, time to act.
Sorry Charlie, this
Submitted by bkeyser on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 9:22pm.
Sorry Charlie, this administration is NOT going to threaten the NYT. I certainly agree with you on this -and would add that this is the perfect case to use against repealing DADT given that that sissy, poor-me-my-boyfriend-broke-up-with-me so-I'm-going-to-blame-the-military and-steal-a-bunch-of-classified-material and-give-it-to-Wikileaks Bradly Manning should never have been allowed to wear the uniform in the first place.
And for those of you wanting to call me a h8r, or homophobe, or whatever for saying the truth, go right ahead. I don't care. There's never been anything like this in the history of this country, and many are calling this the largest breach of security ever for a superpower -all because one Nancy-boy couldn't handle his homosexual relationship.
Some people aren't fit for military service. Bradly Manning is example number one. Hang him by the neck until dead. But of course that won't happen, Fat Lip needs the votes.
Oh yeah....
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 9:28pm.
You go, h8r! ;-)
Seriously though, you're right, and it's ridiculous how things have gotten in the last year, hell the last two years, not just about this wiki-leaky thing either.
I meant what I said in my post above yours about having faith that Holder will handle it just like he's handled the other cases like Ghalani and the Black panthers.
This is why Americans have to rise up against the fat lipped one and tell him "hell no, just go!" And send the black and blue and purple-lipped one packing.
-Jon
BKeyser, what makes you think
Submitted by MikeB on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 3:55pm.
BKeyser, what makes you think that hanging this traitor would reduce the number of votes for Ear Leader? Convicted felons and dead folks (necro-Americans) are two large, dependable voting blocs for the Commucrat Party. Manning's execution would actually increase the numbers for Obama: one vote as a felon convited for treason, and another vote as a dead person.
Being somewhat busy at work,
Submitted by Chris Norman on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 9:31pm.
Being somewhat busy at work, I have been unable to learn all the details of how these "leaks" (more like gushers) came about. As such, I am unclear on just how a private in the military (he was a private, right?) had access to so many documents. Please help me out here.
As I understand it
Submitted by KC Mulville on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:05pm.
The private bragged to a friend that the cables were stored in a database, and he had access to the database. He then downloaded the cables onto a memory stick, and walked out of the building. Being a database guy myself, I know that if you're minimally clever, you can download information -- if you have access to the tables in the first place. What matters, really, is giving individuals access to the database in the first place.
All security systems depend on a level of trust. The security setup for this database very likely is successful in blocking piracy attempts from the outside. How can you prevent piracy from the inside? How can you stop the gatekeepers from selling the secrets? Ultimately, it's always a matter of trust, which this private decided to betray.
When it comes to trust, game theory has a lesson. The rational way to prevent bad actions is to levy an extra cost on the behavior you want to stop. Anyone calculating the costs of behavior then has to gauge two factors: first, the likelihood of getting caught, and second, the size of the penalty.
The more your system depends on trust, the greater the penalty for betrayal must be.
That's why treason, and those who collaborate with traitors, get the harshest penalty. It's the only way to balance the scale against calculating in favor of betrayal. The strategy is called "massive retaliation." I oppose the death penalty on moral grounds, but I don't oppose life in prison without parole. You have to jack up the penalty because it's the only way to threaten people before the fact.
Nail these guys. Make it huge.
Thanks KC. I understand. I
Submitted by Chris Norman on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:15pm.
Thanks KC. I understand. I also oppose the death penalty on moral, as well as practical grounds (the cost, the appeals, etc.). I prefer life in prison without... In this case I think "hard labor" would be applicable - if they're still doing that. I woulkd think that he - they - thought, in this PC, easy consequences, fun celebrity world we live in, the penalty would be low. It's time - and maybe, just maybe - this is the instance on drawing the line to show that these high profile politically tinged crimes should have very serious punishments
Completely agree
Submitted by KC Mulville on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:59pm.
Those who live by celebrity should fall by celebrity.
Death sentence?
Submitted by Franksam on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 8:18am.
All we have to do is put him in prison. He'll get 'Dahmer-ized'.
Enough...
Submitted by The_Barrel_Guy on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 9:32pm.
We are a nation at war...
Some members of the public, the military and the government have actively collected and distributed classified information in time of war...
Some members of the media have collaborated by publishing that material...
The word for the act is treason... The word for the people is traitors...
Catch them... Try them "in camera"... Shoot them... Move on...
OR
Fully identify the individuals involved... Publish all the contact particulars on those individuals... Allow the righteous anger of a betrayed populace administer justice commensurate with the level of the treason...
Enough Said...
The_Barrel_Guy for POTUS!
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 9:52pm.
LOL - You have my vote.
Just let me be your AG. :-)
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Thanks, Dave...
Submitted by The_Barrel_Guy on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:01pm.
Youbetcha you can be AG... I would be honored...
Others in the NB world can fill the rest of the cabinet slots... They would do a far better job than the clowns we have... There are several regular posters on this site who may not have the "prahpa" refined Ivy league education as those who "lead" us, but they sure have a whole lot more common sense...
Not too sure I would want to be POTUS, though <GRIN> Thank you for the very kind thought... We can go down that path on an open thread some day...
I love history... Just about any history that is well presented... Even things that jolt us into realizing that sometimes "progress" has serious unintended consequences... Eli Whitney's cotton gin made processing cotton bolls a whole lot more efficient and kept slavery an economically viable strategy for half a century beyond when it should have collapsed...
That's a digression... There are so many things in the news that suggest our duly elected leaders have failed or refused to take appropriate action to protect our interests... Sometimes I think it is their lack of competence... Sometimes I think it is willful... In all cases, it needs to change.
San Francisco was my home for many years... In its long and colorful history, the 1850's saw the rise of the Committee of Vigilance... Their early goal was to fight crime; their later goal was to replace political corruption... In 1856 they succeeded in replacing the corrupt democrat party machine in the City of San Francisco... We need to consider their actions...
Required reading should include: "The Public City: The Political Construction of Urban Life in San Francisco, 1850-1900" By Philip J. Ethington... People can take back corrupt government and media if they but have the will to do it.
Enough of my soapbox... Again, thanks so very much, Dave...
Prosecution followed by convictocution then swift electrocution
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 9:54pm.
Works for me.
:-)
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
No To Electrocution
Submitted by miss911ninja on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 10:07pm.
Please reconsider, Dave!
Firing squad.
I'd like to see him forced to
Submitted by Chris Norman on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 10:15pm.
I'd like to see the weasly little sob forced to read every last word in every last leaked document, out loud, from the first to the last - all thousands upon thousands of them - without stopping until he drops dead from exhaustion. Of course, my proposal might be just a hair extra-constitutional, but this is my fantasy. :)
miss911,
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 10:49pm.
LOL - Hey, I was just trying to save us hapless taxpayers (tax coupher-uppers?) some money.
After all, firing squads don't come cheap.
:-)
-Dave
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Dave, Have you heard the
Submitted by Chris Norman on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 10:53pm.
Dave,
Have you heard the cost of the new "green" electric chairs? Very expensive. Plus, they take forever to work and they run out of charge in the middle sometimes. I think GE makes them. :)
"Green" electric chairs???
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:14pm.
Sheesh, the cost of that would be much higher - even exponentially so.
Bring on the firing squad!
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Yeah, they're under-powered.
Submitted by Chris Norman on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:20pm.
Yeah, they're under-powered. Plus, like the florescent bulbs, you break one, you have to call the haz-mat team to clean up. But, the good news is that they last 4.7 times as long as the old ones. :)
Chris, a Haz-Mat team?
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:34pm.
Then I hope the firing squad uses copper bullets, because if they use (gasp!) lead, they will still have to call out a Haz-Mat team.
LOL - Sheesh, it's getting to where you can't even shoot traitors in this country anymore without a MSDS sheet posted nearby. :-^)
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Dave, No, I'm afraid the
Submitted by Chris Norman on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:47pm.
Dave,
No, I'm afraid the "green movement" will touch all aspects of life - even death. Of course, they can always use bullets made out of frozen 100% pure Rocky Mountain stream water or they can just freeze Coors in bullet molds. :)
Or maybe.....
Submitted by miss911ninja on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:56pm.
....... just hang him. You can't get much greener than a rope!
True Ninja
Submitted by Denny Crane on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:59pm.
But they might request that they use a hemp rope
;-)
We Are The 53%
miss911, they better not use rope made from hemp...
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:07am.
...else the DEA might land on them hard.
Anybody else starting to sense a pattern here?
Are we, due to hideous government regulation, in serious danger of canceling ourselve's out as a nation?
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Noted
Submitted by miss911ninja on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:17am.
Trend noted! It made me think of Sheryl Crowe and her one square of toilet paper. If she was in charge of the hanging, she'd probably want to use dental floss!
Chris,
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:59pm.
LOL - Then I guess my idea of wrapping them in dead chickens, loading them on an air-boat, and throwing them off somewhere deep in the Louisiana bayou won't fly, either.
Well, there are always the piranha-infested rivers in South America. :-)
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Nope, the trip down to tthose
Submitted by Chris Norman on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:11am.
Nope, the trip down to tthose pirhuana-infested waters would have quite a large carbon footprint - unless Al Gore agrees to - er - drop - him off on his way to GW conference in Caracas. Of course this method would be contingent on a very bad bet...
Chris,
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:28am.
Well, at this point, I would be calling for strapping them to the outside of a Space Shuttle just prior to launch, but given that there won't be enough of them left to carry the load without millions spent in re-calcing weight/balance/thrust and trajectory, etc., there is only one thing left:
Tattoo "To Hell with Allah" on their foreheads and parachute their asses into the middle of downtown Mecca ten minutes before the next prayer call.
Messy, perhaps, but not a little effective. :-)
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Dave,
Submitted by Chris Norman on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:36am.
I really like the imagination you have put into your proposed methods. Convicted murderers everywhere are giving thanks that you don't serve as an adviser to the law enforcement system. However, the same problem still exists: how, in carbon neutral way - can we get him to Mecca?
Chris,
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:45am.
Nancy Pelosi's plane, as given the attention it has gotten by the MSM over the last four years (as in not a peep), it apparently emits no carbon emissions whatsoever.
Besides, come January, she won't be needing it anymore, anyway. :-^)
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Dave, I hear they nose
Submitted by Chris Norman on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 1:26am.
Dave,
I hear they nose dived her plane regularly to keep that perpetual wide-eyed look of surprise on her face once the botox stopped working from overuse.
Hey Dave*
Submitted by cajun2 on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 8:01am.
Why you want to pollute La Bayou's?
BTW, I say send him to Gitmo. ;-)
Krauthammer is a Weasel
Submitted by Henry Clay on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 10:23pm.
Pardon my French… but Charles Krauthammer is such a little weasel! If my memory serves me, he accused the President of the United States of trying to hide the terrorist ties to the Fort Hood Massacre. He claimed that Obama tried to cover it up and he demanded the truth! Now he is all about prosecuting Journalists for imaginary crimes of treason! Maybe Sir Charles ought to browse a law book and look up the definition of treason.
That's quite a charge, coming
Submitted by Chris Norman on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 10:29pm.
That's quite a charge, coming from a weasel.
As a rat, you should aspire to weaselhood
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 10:27pm.
Pardon my English.
SoL, You think Henry is a
Submitted by Chris Norman on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 10:33pm.
SoL,
You think Henry is a rat? I really think he is more like a weasel. Of course, he does share some characteristics of a rat, but "weasel" was what I was thinking. Of course, "cockroach" comes to mind also. Some kind of vermin...
Chris-
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 10:41pm.
Having owned several ferrets (mini-weasels) in my time, I have found the weasel family to be highly intelligent, resourceful, respectful and generally great fun to be around.
Master Thespian here is a garden variety sewer rat.
{For any rat fans that may respond, please answer this: why are there no lab weasels?}
SoL,
Submitted by Chris Norman on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 10:47pm.
I suppose I was going with the cartoon caricatures of weasels. You know - all slippery and everything. Of course, I regard Henry as somewhat cartoonish. I guess I was being unfair - to weasels.
BTW, "Master Thespian" - I like it! "Trolling!" - "Genius!" - "Thank you!" :)
Chris:
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 10:54pm.
Well, to be fair, they did have a habit of taking a dunk in the toilet on occasion = slippery little weasel!
So, "weasel" wasn't that far
Submitted by Chris Norman on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 10:57pm.
So, "weasel" wasn't that far out of line? :) But, for the sake of agreement, we'll go with your take - "rat". However, like a cockroach, Henry seems to have come back and is scurrying around below.
The Master Thespian does have a short attention span
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:11pm.
I don't think he would do all that well when placed in the maze.
Chris,
Submitted by Trix Rabbit on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:27am.
The correct term should be "cockroach", as "weasel" implies a certain degree of intelligence that cannot be attributed to those like...well...Henry Merde.
For the MSM: In your pomp and all your glory, you're a poorer man than me. As you lick the boots of death born out of fear.
Ian Anderson "Wind up"
TR, Unfortunately, too,
Submitted by Chris Norman on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:58am.
TR,
Unfortunately, too, cockroaches - like Henry - have been around since the beginning of time and will plague our children's children's children ad infinitem.
Rat fans, lol... Ok... Weasels ripped my flesh, music break
Submitted by upcountrywater on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:21pm.
The Eric Dolphy Memorial Barbecue, opens in a new window.
I had rat pets, so I know their MO. Hawaii has rats big time.
Soo how is a Mongoose different than a Weasel?
Mongoose run around in the daytime and eat bird eggs.
You Didn't Build That.
SoL
Submitted by Denny Crane on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:40pm.
Me too!
I had several ferrets as pets when I was a kid.
They are better mousers than cats, but they certainly had a smell to them. Jaws of steel, they never let go once they got a hold of something.
Ahh, brings back memories.
We Are The 53%
Rats Rule
Submitted by miss911ninja on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 1:35am.
I've never had a ferret but I've had 6 pet rats over the years. I LOVE THEM! They have so much personality, (all different) and they love human contact. And I have NEVER been bitten by a rat. Not like the hamsters I had as a kid who would bite all the way through my finger tip just because I guess they didn't want to be held. And talk about jaws of steel! The only problem with rats is that they live only about 2 1/2 years and usually die of pneumonia, or tumors if they're female. It's so hard to lose them.
Hee Hee Hee Ninja My Ferret
Submitted by Denny Crane on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 8:14am.
Hee Hee Hee Ninja
My Ferret would have eaten your Rats!!!
:-)
"Lib free or die" Denny Crane (FKA Toneyuki)
We Are The 53%
Ferret Free Zone
Submitted by miss911ninja on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:22pm.
I was tempted to get a ferret a few years ago, but something told me not to go there! Then I saw a story on TV about a young woman who had been horribly disfigured as a baby when the family's pet ferret climbed into her crib and ate off half her nose! That did it for me. My house will be a ferret-free zone. And now I have a couple of gentle guinea pigs.
Probably a good choice.
Submitted by Denny Crane on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 8:22pm.
BTW they would prolly eat the guinea pigs too!
Ferrets are a little stinky, so if you were planning on keeping them in the house...BAD idea. We had an old barn, and I converted a huge part of it into the ferret's cage, they loved it.
We Are The 53%
Eating Guinea Pigs
Submitted by miss911ninja on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 9:53pm.
I knew you'd say that!
The ferret's cage in the barn sounds awesome! Someday I hope to have something like that for my guinea pigs, but for now they're in a huge aquarium.
Are you waterboarding them Ninja?
Submitted by Denny Crane on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 10:13pm.
Can they swim?
I know Guinea Pigs are use for experiments but sheesh........
;-)
We Are The 53%
G Force
Submitted by miss911ninja on Wed, 12/01/2010 - 2:47am.
They are highly trained guinea pig SEALS.
Last one Ninja
Submitted by Denny Crane on Wed, 12/01/2010 - 3:13am.
Ninja's GP's in training
And the winner is?
The best fighting force evah
China V Taiwan at the Asian Games
Rodger Ten four, over and out
We Are The 53%
Over & Out
Submitted by miss911ninja on Wed, 12/01/2010 - 11:35am.
LOL! Thanks Denny. That was a great way to start my day!
Clay for brains, Obama did try to cover up the terrorist ties...
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:09pm.
...to the Ft. Hood massacre as he, along with his MSM bucket-carrying dog-washers, did everything they could to deflect attention away from the fact that Major Malik Nadal Hasan was, in fact, an Islamic terrorist.
Score:
Dr Krauthammer: 1
Enemy-coddling troll: 0
Imaginary crimes of treason?
We are currently at war, you government-union educated moron. Aiding the enemy in any way during same is nothing short of treason.
Revised score:
Dr Krauthammer: 2
Enemy-coddling troll: Left holding his jock strap all alone in the locker room while his mamma waits outside, wishing she had made the adjustments necessary to have sent her spawn to a school run by people who were interested in something other than padding their government pensions..
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Dave
Submitted by Henry Clay on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:27pm.
Obviously your passions are getting the best of your logic. What aid did the NYT give to our enemies? Is Iran not out enemy? Did the articles show that the rest of the Arab world wants to blow that fanatical regime off the face of the planet; just like our friend Israel has been begging us to do? Maybe the story about China allowing missiles that can reach Europe, to go from North Korea to Iran got you quite flustered, but as an American I find it very important. Maybe you would like to ignore the fact that the bravest men and women that this country is currently producing are dying for a corrupt drug peddling Afghan government? You may want to put your head in the sand and allow others to make decisions for you- but do not expect me to do the same.
Henry Merde,
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:35am.
I made no reference to Iran, or even Iraq in my post.
What I pointed out were Islamic terrorists operating right here in America.
As for Chinese missiles reaching anywhere beyond China, I have been raising Hell about that for years all over the Internet, as Clinton got bamboozled in allowing that to happen.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
The anger machine
Submitted by Henry Clay on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 10:50pm.
I do not understand who the right-wing is mad at? The Journalists who redacted all names except for high profile public figures? Maybe the anger ought to be directed at the DOD for letting a 22 year old PFC have access to half a million private e-mails. Actually, until he is proven guilty, let alone charged with anything; then maybe we ought to wait to pass judgment. Maybe the anger ought to be directed at the imbeciles who put in writing their catty observations about world leaders?
Yoo hoo, Master Thespian:
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:02pm.
You abandon the above thread after 10 minutes to post this additional BS?
1) It's not just the "right-wing" who are livid about this... in case you rely solely on NB posts for all your news.
2) The concept of privacy still exists for most of the civilized world. Of course you could prove me wrong by giving me YOUR email log-in... I'll share your communications with everyone and we'll see how that works out for you.
SoL It's been a few minutes
Submitted by Chris Norman on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:16pm.
SoL
It's been a few minutes and, as yet, no response. Perhaps Henry is taking "a dunk in the toilet"? :)
AAAACK-tually, Henry
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:23pm.
Our anger is directed at liberals like you who elected Obama to office.
And now that this particular little *mishap* has occured, we're angry at Obama for hiding behind Hillary and Glibbsy, like the sissy he is. He ought to stick to playing basketball with his young daughters.
If I were you, I'd watch the name calling....it's a good way to get gone, here.
P.S. Your little gay data-stealer already admitted what he did. How's that grab you, Henry?
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Blonde
Submitted by Henry Clay on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:40pm.
Blonde may I point out ever so respectfully that it was not only Liberals who elected President Obama. After all, we are only 30 percent of the population. Secondly, what does the fact that the accused is gay having anything remotely to do with him leaking information? If he was straight and had an argument with his wife would you even bring that up?
That is true, Henry Hank---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:18am.
it was not only liberals who elected ol' split purple lip; it was liberals and their kissing cousins: idiots.
MD
The fact that he was gay.....
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:22am.
....and had a grudge with the military over a policy under which he enlisted (DADT)....and that he was attempting to settle that grudge.
Gosh, Henry, can you possibly connect those two dots?
As for you and your 30%....you lied to the other 21% of the gullible people in the country about your liberal socialist Messiah, fortunately for us, it won't happen again. You all have been outed, for the fools and liars that liberals are.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
SickofLibs
Submitted by Henry Clay on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:17pm.
My dear boy… I abandoned the previous thread for it was not worthy of my attention. What would I add to the insults? Shall I compare myself to a Lion? That kingly beast that roams the jungle and restores order through the manly strength of his courage?
I digress, I ask this, so what if some Democrats are upset? Those are the same people who would defend any hideous action taken by a fellow Democrat for the mere purpose of saving face. Finally, I am sure you are well aware of the fact that this great nation has quite a few enemies. These were not e-mails talking about children playing futbol, they were about international relations. I find that if one does not want anything to be brought up at a latter date, then one ought to stick with verbal communication via a secure phone line or video conference.
Bravissimo! My applause. Of
Submitted by Chris Norman on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:23pm.
Bravissimo! My applause. Of course you would also blame a rape victim for wearing a short skirt and high heels? Or a murder victim for being foolish enough to live in a high crime area?
Christopher
Submitted by Henry Clay on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:34pm.
Those analogies make absolutely no sense. We all know that murder and rape are caused by socioeconomic factors not stupidity. All that I am saying is, that I most likely did more diligence in vetting my babysitter than the DOD did in hiring the accused.
No, you said that those who
Submitted by Chris Norman on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:43pm.
"Maybe the anger ought to be directed at the imbeciles who put in writing their catty observations about world leaders?"No, you said that anger ought to be directed at the people quoted in the leaked documents, as if they are to blame for the embarrassment and consequences. So, in effect, you are blaming them rather than the leaker and poster. You then implied that giving a private so much access to sensitive information was the real crime (I think it's a side issue that should be investigated). Pursuing your line of - er - reasoning - further - a burglary victim should receive the - er - lion's - share of the blame because his locks weren't so good.
Christopher
Submitted by Henry Clay on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:46pm.
I do always enjoy a good pun but not withstanding, I am blaming these State Department employees for not using common sense. Would you write to your co-workers like this? I am also blaming top brass for allowing someone as young and as it sounds, hot-headed to be handling these types of messages.
Oh, for Pete's sake, I know
Submitted by Chris Norman on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:12am.
Oh, for Pete's sake, I know you blame the people you named. I wrote that, you foppish nincompoop. You don't address the fact you assign no blame to the people who actually stole and posted the information. Ergo, like a typical liberal, you blame everyone but the criminals who actually committed the crime - if indeed, you even - heaven forbid - acknowledge that any crime - a traitorous crime - at all was committed. I'm sure the weasly defense attorney at any trial will employ the same obfuscating tactics
Peter King is the terrorist
Submitted by Henry Clay on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:36am.
Christopher the only one who can be charged with a crime in this case is the accused PFC. Trying to libel Asange a terrorist, spy or a Mafioso is intellectually bankrupt. To my knowledge Mr. Asange has never supported or aided any terrorist organization; but Peter King has. I hate to bring up the IRA again, but Mr. King was a strong IRA ally. He even raised money to buy guns to kill British soldiers; now he is ranking member on the Homeland Security Committee!
"LIBEL"? "Intellectually
Submitted by Chris Norman on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 1:23am.
"LIBEL"? "Intellectually bankrupt"? Now, you're just throwing out terms and phrases you think make you sound knowledgeable and sophisticated with no other point in using them. Assange is a dangerous accomplice to a traitor who may cause the United States years of diplomatic and military damage. You try to make it all sound silly by citing a few quotes - but it's not silly - it's serious and fools like you, safe behind the protection of the US military, smirk and sneer - pretending it was all in good fun or something.
So, you're an expert
Submitted by UpNorth on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:59pm.
on murder and rape, too? How did you come up with the nonsense that rape and murder are caused by socioeconomic factors? Name a credible source, other than some egghead who lives in an ivory tower somewhere.
Most murderers that I came into contact with over the course of my career either a. acted stupidly, or b. acted out of the conceit that they could get away with it. Exept for those who killed because they just like killing, hint see Manson, Drew Peterson, Ted Bundy and Lamont Marshall.
Every time you park your over-enunciated rear behind a keyboard, you make more of an a$$ of yourself, Mister Lesbian.
UpNorth---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:01am.
Remember Clay's first turn through these threads, when he was merely a flowery literary poseur?
Such a lightweight (only mildly irritating) liberal that the name Mister Lisp-ian would have fit him perfectly?
Dude musta got his *ss kicked by a conservative; cuz he flat turned recriminatory.
MD
Yeah, I do, MD.
Submitted by UpNorth on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:06am.
He got his head handed to him so often that I'm sure he suffers from terminal whiplash. And I"m sure he got his a$$ kicked by his better somewhere on a playground, and he just hates the world now.
But, he's still a flowery legend in his own mind.
UpNorth---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:11am.
He's still a flowery legend in his own mind.
Perfect.
Not a lion, but a "Tiger Lily".
Apologies to the Indian Princess character in Peter Pan.
MD
matthew, Speaking of
Submitted by Chris Norman on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:30am.
matthew,
Speaking of "flowery", I now have a picture in my mind of Sir Henry, garbed in a velvet smoking jacket and cravat, complete with a drooping flower ala Oscar Wilde, looking at himself in a mirror while reciting "Ode to a Grecian Urn". Thanks - thanks a heck of a lot.
Chris,
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:38am.
Actually, this is the picture I am getting of Hank Merde.
:-)
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Dave, LOL! Perfect. I can
Submitted by Chris Norman on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 1:00am.
Dave,
LOL! Perfect. I can just hear Sir Henry narrating, "And to my little fans everywhere, here I am as a wee, bonny lad of ten and two (that is twelve). Even then, I knew the gods has destined me for greatness...".
Still, how about this image?
Chris,
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 1:10am.
Could be.
After all, Hank Merde has described himself as a "Master Thesbian."
I did study a little language origin once upon a time.
-Dave
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Dave,
Submitted by Chris Norman on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 1:21am.
Okay, a master thespian. How about this, then?
Hey, Maurice Evans---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 1:42am.
grew up to play an orangutan in "Planet of the Apes".
Sir Henry grew up to play "The Fool on NewsBusters."
MD
matthew,
Submitted by Chris Norman on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 1:46am.
I like to think of Maurice Evans playing Samantha's ham father on 'Bewitched'. :)
That, Chris---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 1:36am.
Velvet smoking jacket and ascot, whizzing in an urn, is exactly how I pictured Henry, but the added "Sir" is icing on the cake.
Then Dave springs that thirties era picture of Freddie Bartholemew, which has got to resemble Henry before he became knighted.
I wonder at what point Henry became a liberal, therefore benighted?
MD
matthew
Submitted by Chris Norman on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 1:43am.
It must've been about the time he became permanently besotted...
Awww
Submitted by ckc1227 on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 1:57am.
"All that I am saying is, that I most likely did more diligence in vetting my babysitter than the DOD did in hiring the accused."
So, they still won't let you stay home alone, hmm? Buck up, little camper, you'll be a big boy one day.
Well, Hank Mud---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:31pm.
if you were a real lion, you wouldn't be living in the jungle.
You have my vote, though, for " lyin' '".
MD
MD, It's Hank Merde
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:39pm.
...as in merde.
:-)
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Appropriate, Dave---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:52pm.
as Mr. Merde demonstrates his liberal loon status by stating that murder and rape are caused by socio-economic conditions, rather than by human criminals.
Next thing you know, he will be positing that guns somehow manage to go off by themselves, wreaking death and destruction.
Why, I'll bet old Hank Merde probably figures he could stop a bomb-laden jihadist just by quoting Shakespeare at him.
MD
Clay, What part of "Classified" don't you get?
Submitted by upcountrywater on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:00am.
A million law abiding persons kept these CABLES well CLASSIFIED, for years and years.
This information is to spread to agencies in real time all over the planet.
A person to person video/phone call ain't going to cut it.
You Didn't Build That.
UP If the thespian known as
Submitted by Chris Norman on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:05am.
UP
If the thespian known as Henry Clay had his way, conversations and evaluations would be limited only to innocuous pleasantries on, say, just how "absolutely beautiful the country and people of Pakistan are".
Dang Chris, clay mentioned an ET phone home call is correct crap
Submitted by upcountrywater on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:43am.
He musta been stuck at his red-neck uncles, happened to see that "24" with the video conferencing part in it.
Heck he's probably has a few secured hotmail video phone accounts.
Just having an experiment here with the ham actor dudelette.
You Didn't Build That.
Everything could be called classified
Submitted by Henry Clay on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:23am.
Classified? I suppose calling Putin Batman should be classified information…You know it is a grave national security threat.
Such the Ham actor.Only in Clay baby land is your statement true
Submitted by upcountrywater on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:56am.
The rest of the world has this definition CLASSIFIED
Classified information is sensitive information to which access is restricted by law or regulation to particular classes of persons.
You Didn't Build That.
OMO! Henry you are killing me.
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:32am.
Henry, I have to give it to you, you are one of the most entertaining trolls we've had around here in a while.
The faux over-the-top foppishness, well....it's a hoot. Of course, we all realize it's put on, but it is pretty hilarious.
I truly wish I could peer through my computer and actually view you....I have a couple of thoughts as to what I'd see. All of them make me fall off my chair laughing.
Are you a Nancy, unbuttoned to your waist with your browned bony chest peeking out over those effeminate wrists, with your white whisps of hair all askew, as you peek down your nose over your half specs? Or, perhaps, are you a fat and frustrated mommy's boy, sweaty and greasy, with a double dunlap? Or one of those short, bald little men with a napoleonic complex, in horrid checkered clothing? Also, I'd love to hear your actual accent. And the timbre of your voice.
I'm betting everything is a clanging disconnect from your oh-so-hoity personna, here.
Anyone else have any guesses?
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Why, yes, Blonde.
Submitted by Trix Rabbit on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:40am.
Milksop Henry is one of those great miracles of natural selection that keeps Neanderthal genes in circulation.
For the MSM: In your pomp and all your glory, you're a poorer man than me. As you lick the boots of death born out of fear.
Ian Anderson "Wind up"
Blonde
Submitted by Henry Clay on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:43am.
Actually, looks wise many people compare me to Carey Grant. I am quite suave.
Okay, yuck.
Submitted by Chris Norman on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:46am.
Okay, yuck.
And De-Boner, no doubt
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:48am.
Cary Grant?
You know he swung both ways, yes?
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J I found a picture of him
Submitted by Denny Crane on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:58am.
http://www.the-company.com/images/photos/00/9dgg-oct2000.jpg
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Denny,
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 1:04am.
That one might be him once grown up from this.
Hey, it could happen. :-^)
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
David, now that is quite
Submitted by Henry Clay on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 1:17am.
David, now that is quite bizarre… I have very similar wallpaper and wainscot in my sitting room. Where ever did you find such a splendid picture? With that being said, I must part ways for the night, I had my say on this subject. I must rest now, for tomorrow I have many activities planned. I am currently working on a Sonnet about the Impeachment of Warren Hastings. If any of you would like; I will post it in the forum when it is complete.
Actually, that isn't true.
Submitted by Trix Rabbit on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 1:23am.
Actually, that isn't true. Henry is going to rehearse for his karaoke gig at the local bowling alley.
For the MSM: In your pomp and all your glory, you're a poorer man than me. As you lick the boots of death born out of fear.
Ian Anderson "Wind up"
Perhaps, in his mind, the
Submitted by Chris Norman on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 1:51am.
Perhaps, in his mind, the bowling alley is the National Theatre in London. Just picture what will happen when he begins reciting "Hamlet" in front of the Oil Drillers Tuesday Night Bowling League.
Well, that's one version
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 1:09am.
There are so many possibilities for our faux-Henry-Clay.
Endless possibilities. Just keep cycling them as you read his pseudo-intellectual pap, it will keep you entertained for days, and weeks!
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Well I just randomly chose one
Submitted by Denny Crane on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 1:13am.
http://hudsonknowsbest.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/tumblr_l56jczoyxz1qam...
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Blonde, I'm surprised Sir
Submitted by Chris Norman on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 1:32am.
Blonde,
I'm surprised Sir Henry addresses you simply as "Blonde". If true to his screen character, one would think he would write:"Hail Maiden with Tresses Gleaming of Gold..." on his missives.
I know, Chris
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 1:59am.
It's disappointing, truly.
Why aren't you sitting at my table with the (not so great) football team & cheerleaders, eh?
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Blonde,
Submitted by Chris Norman on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 2:02am.
The invitation I received was only to bus the the table of trays and empty milk cartons. I figure it's a start. :)
Abosolutely not!
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 2:13am.
There's always room at my table for my oldest friends!
~ The dog barks, but the caravan moves on.
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Carey Grant, huh?
Submitted by Trix Rabbit on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 1:08am.
And the best you have ever done was when you were Rosie O'Donnell's understudy.
For the MSM: In your pomp and all your glory, you're a poorer man than me. As you lick the boots of death born out of fear.
Ian Anderson "Wind up"
Yeah, Hank, Cary Grant ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 3:55am.
who was born Archibald Leach, was a Hunk, apparently for both sides of the aisle; but Carey Grant, whom you say many people compare you to, was born Archibald Parkinfarker and the Court ordered his last name be changed to Leash cuz he was so ugly he had to be kept on one.
Sit.
Stay.
Good boy, Hank.
MD
I know I'll regret
Submitted by UpNorth on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:23pm.
responding to Mister Lesbian, er, Master Thespian, aka Hank Mud, but dear Hank, have you read the disclaimer that the NYT put out about the "Climate Gate" e-mails vis-a-vis the docs that PFC Manning gave to Wikileaks. After he got into a snit with his boy friend? If not, go do some due diligence, then get back to us with something cogent and coherent, other wise, just go back to Kos or PuffHo and regale them with tales of your derring-do, or in your case, doo-doo.
We used to kill people for
Submitted by Thoreau on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 1:30am.
We used to kill people for Treason during war time. But let me guess how this plays out. Obama will say... he's "not happy".
How to handle this
Submitted by talkradio55 on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 1:35am.
If I were the Attorney General, this would have already been handled. This Julian Assange twerp would have be executed along with any of his cohorts, media or otherwise. It's about time we started putting treasonists before the firing squad. We put a few of these people on the walls and this problem will go away post haste.
Sounds like a "conspiracy to
Submitted by Cowboy on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 3:20am.
Sounds like a "conspiracy to commit" case at the very least...
There's no way anybody in
Submitted by Bruzilla on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:25pm.
There's no way anybody in this mess could be convicted of treason. In order to make that charge stick, you have to show a clear intent to assist the enemies of the United States during a time of war. I haven't seen any evidence of that. Also, media outlets can not be charged with a crime either as they did not enter into any agreements with the government niot to disclose anything they obtain. Once classified information is released, rightly or wrongly, any media outlet can report it.
PFC Manning is a different story. One outcome of the Walker case in the 1980s was that there was no death penalty for willingly disclosing classified information and damaging the country. That all changed as a result of that case, and Manning had to sign that he understood that the penalty for unlawful disclosure of classified material includes a wide range of punishments up to and including death before he was granted his clearance.
I think this situation goes well beyond just wikileaks. We have had a severe problem with folks at all levels of government leaking classified information, and that must stop. Until the government starts cracking down hard on violaters, and by hard I mean killing them, this is going to continue causing damage.
You're correct Bruzilla
Submitted by Denny Crane on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 8:26pm.
Not Treason. But they could (and should) prosecute them for espionage.
"Lib free or die" Denny Crane
We Are The 53%