'Republican Right's First Scalp,' Nets Portray Van Jones as Victim of Conservatives

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Instead of focusing on how the Obama administration found it appropriate to hire a man who added his name to a petition asserting the Bush administration deliberately allowed the 9/11 attacks to occur -- or the incompetence displayed in not knowing about it -- ABC and NBC on Sunday night painted Van Jones as a victim, “a target for conservatives,” while “the Republican Right” claimed “its first scalp in this administration.” [audio available here]

With “Under Fire” on screen by a picture of Jones, as if he's the aggrieved party, World News anchor Dan Harris fretted that “at this crucial moment,” with President Obama planning to take up health care, “the White House is now dealing with a sudden overnight resignation of a controversial adviser.” Reporter Stephanie Sy stressed how Jones' remarks on various topics “were all made before he joined the Obama administration, but made him an easy target for conservatives.” She acknowledged Jones “in fact did describe himself as an aspiring communist revolutionary in his youth,” but, she highlighted, “he said he is the victim of a 'vicious smear campaign of lies and distortion.'” Sy featured Howard Dean lamenting Jones will no longer be able “to help this country,” before she concluded: “Democrats worry that Van Jones is only the first of Mr. Obama's so-called policy czars...that will be targeted by Republicans.”

Inadvertently, presumably, NBC anchor Lester Holt conceded the mainstream media's malfeasance: “I don't think most Americans had heard of him before this.” Holt then asked John Harwood: “Can the Republican Right claim its first scalp in this administration?” Harwood pointed to how Obama “lost” Tom Dashle, and proceeded to agree that “yes, it is a victory for the Republican Right,” though he insisted “Jones was not an especially important figure within the administration. His job wasn't that big.”

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Sunday night, the CBS Evening News limited Jones coverage to a short update by anchor Russ Mitchell. On Friday, CBS was the only broadcast network evening newscast to have run a story on Jones.

Earlier NB posts:

♦ From Sunday afternoon: “Nets Catch Up with Van Jones, Sure 'Sour Note' in 'Summer Squall' Won't 'Damage' Obama.”

♦ From Sunday morning: “NY Times Finally Picks Up Van Jones Story -- After He Resigns

♦ From Friday night, with an update on the lack of coverage on Saturday: “ABC & NBC Continue Van Jones Blackout, Instead Tout Obama's 'Transparency' and Rue Attacks on Him.”

From the Sunday, September 6 NBC Nightly News, following the lead story from Mike Viqueira who had included Jones in a preview of Obama's health care speech and address to the nation's school students:

LESTER HOLT: John Harwood is CNBC's chief Washington correspondent. John, good to have you here. I want to start off with the Van Jones resignation. I don't think most Americans had heard of him before this, but can the Republican Right claim its first scalp in this administration, and how big a deal is it?

JOHN HARWOOD: Well, not their first scalp. Of course, the President lost Tom Dashle, who he wanted to be his health care czar, much earlier in the year. But yes, it is a victory for the Republican Right, and the White House simply couldn't afford to spend any time or energy at this critical point in the health care debate defending somebody who had been associated with that preposterous suggestion that the government allowed the 9/11 attacks to occur.

HOLT: But the President's opponents have spun the narrative of this to reinforce their notion that the President is dangerously left. Does that, in the long term, hurt more than just the loss of a particular aide or adviser?

HARWOOD: Well exactly, Lester. Van Jones was not an especially important figure within the administration. His job wasn't that big, but the President does face suspicions from some political opponents because of the exotic nature of his background, because of his name, because of some positions of his -- politically that he's taken that have shifted over time, that there's something secretly more radical or further left than he is letting on right now, and he can't afford to have that suspicious amplified or continued in the political atmosphere we're in right now.

ABC's World News:

DAN HARRIS: Good evening. After a summer that has truly been a mean season for the White House, President Obama is now preparing to deliver two controversial speeches this week. On Tuesday, a live back to school speech to students, which has some parents threatening to pull their kids out of class. And on Wednesday night, he will address a joint session of Congress to try to salvage health care reform. But, at this crucial moment, the White House is now dealing with a sudden overnight resignation of a controversial adviser. So, we're going to begin here tonight with Stephanie Sy.

STEPHANIE SY: First, he insulted the Republicans.

VAN JONES: They're [bleep] holes.

SY: Then this video emerged, in which Van Jones comments about the Columbine shootings.

JONES: You've never seen a Columbine done by a black child. Never. Now, a black kid might shoot another black kid.

SY: The remarks were all made before he joined the Obama administration, but made him an easy target for conservatives. When an organization Jones co-founded started calling for a boycott of popular talk show host Glenn Beck, the flood gates open.

GLENN BECK: We've told you that he is an avowed radical communist.

SY: The now-former green jobs czar and best-selling author in fact did describe himself as an aspiring communist revolutionary in his youth. But in a statement today, he said he is the victim of a “vicious smear campaign of lies and distortion.” The most damning criticism against Jones points to a petition he signed in the aftermath of 9/11, which called for an investigation into whether high-level U.S. officials had allowed the attacks to occur. Jones said last week that the petition never reflected his views, and he has apologized for his provocative statements, but in this political climate it wasn't nearly enough.

ROBERT GIBBS, ON THIS WEEK: The President accepted his resignation because Van Jones, as he says in his statement, understood that he was going to get in the way of the President.

SY: Democrat Howard Dean, who's political career took a tumble after the emergence of this one video [“Rahhhh!”], came to Jones' defense.

HOWARD DEAN: You've got to understand, Van Jones is a star. He really is. He has an extraordinary background. He was a guy who is really going to help this country, and now he's unfortunately just not able to do it and I think that's too bad for the country.

SY: With President Obama's approval ratings sliding and his key reforms up for debate, conservatives are going after any vulnerabilities in the administration. And Democrats worry that Van Jones is only the first of Mr. Obama's so-called policy czars, Dan, that will be targeted by Republicans.

HARRIS: Stephanie Sy, thank you.

—Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center


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Van Jones: Victim

Couldn't see that one coming.

Yawn.

Victim of himself.  But

Victim of himself.  But that headline just ain't eye-catching enough.

Yeah, the mean old

Yeah, the mean old Republican right....going after someone who, as Holt said.....

“I don't think most Americans had heard of him before this.” 

Wait a minute!!  I thought he was a "towering" and "legendary" figure in the environmental movement!!

Exactly,

Exactly, towering.....legendary......BS........try racist, idiot, communist.

And if most Americans hadn't heard of him, yet he's the freakin GREEN JOBS CZAR in an administration that thinks "green" jobs are the utopia that brings America to 0% unemployment and solves every problem known to man.......then, WHY hadn't most Americans heard someone in such a HIGH position?

And even Howard Dean said

And even Howard Dean said he was a STAR!

But really, Stephanie Sy is the one...she says Obama's so-called policy czars

So-called?  That's what they are!! The term "czar" is in the vernacular now....it's not an epithet any more! They are all called "czars" as a matter of course!

 Thanks you MB I was going

 Thanks you MB I was going to point out the same thing...but with 103 posts already this morning I was sure I was not the only one to catch it. 

this "so-called" is on the same line "some say"

 

 

lib-think:

Male/female gender roles, especially the desire of women to be mothers, are purely social constructs.  But homosexuality - and every other sexual proclivity - are immutable, ingraned biological desires that cannot be questioned

If it wasn't true

Why didn't he just say so? Would have been so easy to say that wasn't me in those videos.

Poor babies....

Boo f**cking hoo.

2010: A GOP Hill

Holt then asked John

Holt then asked John Harwood: “Can the Republican Right claim its first scalp in this administration?”

  First scalp?   Why....   I believe that could be classified as a derogatory and racist reference.

inglorious

Maybe the writer just came back from a movie. ;)

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We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt.  ~Thomas Jefferson

I would say

it was a very derogatory and racist comment.  Holt must be a closet conservative.  We know the lefties are never racist.

But, But, But...

Holt's "scalp" question to John Harwood is now a part of the past and is no longer valid, significant, or newsworthy.

 yes he said that in his

 yes he said that in his younger days....2 days younger so now it doesn't count

 

 

lib-think:

Male/female gender roles, especially the desire of women to be mothers, are purely social constructs.  But homosexuality - and every other sexual proclivity - are immutable, ingraned biological desires that cannot be questioned

→ Don't tell nwahs!

He's really upset lately about bloody imagery.

Imagine his chagrin when he hears about "scalps"?

I expect him to be here any second, filled with righteous indignation.

What's that?  Not an opportunity to bash a conservative woman?  OK.

We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy

Cool Arrow, Are you

Cool Arrow,

Are you trying to open up a can of worms?

(I hope that wasn't too graphic for nwahs)

→ I'm sooo HORRIFIED!

I might even have bad dreams and get the bed all wee-weed up.

We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy

hey cool

  You want blood?  I got blood.  Here's a dramatization of obama's czars surrounded and attacked by those wild right wingers out to destroy this president.  ....and they are taking scalps

→ EWWWW

Help me, nwahs!  I'm sooo terrified!

We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy

whack-a-mole

 it may take the entire length of this administration to get all the Czars.

To bad for WHICH COUNTRY Mr. Howard Dean?  Obama continues with the Castro-turfing of america and the media just applauds or whines on cue.

___________________________________________
We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt.  ~Thomas Jefferson

ALL HAIL CAESAR...

 Look, do you have any idea how long it took Russia to have as many czars as Obama has created in less then a year? Do you? 30 plus czars Obama has would take several centuries for Mother Russia to create.

 

"...How blind can you be, don't you see...

...that the gambler lost all he does not have..."  

Nightwish

The left has opened its fly and exposed itself for all time

In the left's defense of this self-avowed communist Van Jones, either directly or by omission, they have opened their fly and exposed themselves for who and what they truly are.

I wonder how many more commies will have to be unearthed around Obama before the American people are going to finally add 2 and 2 and hit 4.

-Dave

Even when the government tries to kiss you, it is just a prelude to a good screwing. -Neal Boortz 

Three?

Three?

Jer

→ Does not compute

Jer, just between you and me, I feeeel that is the correct answer also.

We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy

Feelings...nothing more

Feelings...nothing more than feelings...

'Go Green...Recycle Congress'

BT

Jer decided not to leave this time, but just become Mr. Minimal. :p

 

I know...I know...trust me

I know...I know...trust me I follow.   ;-)

'Go Green...Recycle Congress'

Hope you two don't lose any

Hope you two don't lose any sleep over it.

Jer

Not to worry Jer will

Not to worry Jer will transform again.

  The thing that amazes me

  The thing that amazes me about people who appear to be intelligent can proudly call themselves 'communist'.  If we were still back in the 1930's I might give a little lee-way but it's now been over a hundred years since the publishing of the Communist Manifesto and it's quite obvious by now that the princples outlined in the book are wrong.  Nowhere has communism worked and the watered down version, socialism, merely fails more slowly.  So why do supposed intellectuals not see what is by now common sense?

  If you are a communist in todays world you are the equivelent of a flat earther.

But it's so cool these days

But it's so cool these days to be a communist. You get fawned on by the MSM and hollywood, and you get to name drop Chevez and Castro names. And of course -- you get recognition and rewards from elitists the world over. Who knows -- you might even get to keep your power-job after the take-over of America is completed.

___________________________________ 

"Tax the rich" is a basically unstable way of governing - The NYT

...and don't forget the

...and don't forget the honors from the likes of the Nobel Peace Price etc. etc.

'Go Green...Recycle Congress'

TnT, BT....

Here, this, from the WaPo, no less, on Van Jones. They HAVE to report it, cuz it's all there in his past:

His involvement with the now-defunct Bay Area radical group Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement (STORM), which had Marxist roots, also emerged as an issue. And on Saturday, his advocacy on behalf of death-row inmate Mumia Abu-Jamal, who was convicted of fatally shooting a Philadelphia police officer in 1981, threatened to further deepen the controversy. A White House official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a personnel matter, said Sunday that Jones's past was not studied as intensively as that of other advisers because of his relatively low rank.

Wow. And not just advocacy, but I believe he was a lawyer of some kind. Also love how they let us know STORM is "now defunkt". But it's all there. An appointee of our fine president, Barack HUSSEIN Obama.

 

MrS... Relatively low

MrS...

Relatively low rank is so fitting...although as far as I am concerned that goes all the way to the top.

'Go Green...Recycle Congress'

WAPO needs to be careful

MrS, van jones has said these are vicious lies and distortions. WAPO might be subject to a lawsuit, now. I'm still pouring through WAPO's statements and trying to sort them into 2 bins: Lies (bin #1); and Distortions (bin #2) just so I can be fair to van jones and help him out!

So far, both bins are empty. sigh. I guess I'm no help these days to the unfairly wronged.

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"Tax the rich" is a basically unstable way of governing - The NYT

Communism being "cool"

Well, if things keep going like Obama wants them, the cool people may get their wish.  The news media will have to publish what they are told.   If they don't they'll be taken over.   Movies will be propaganda only prescribed by Mr. Obama.   Like Chavez, he will take over all industries, shut down radio stations, television stations, and be on television for hours, and hours and hours, like MR. Chavez and Castro.  Hasn't he already taken over GM, banks, corporations,etc.etc. he's just gotten started.   

 

So-called "intellectuals"

So-called "intellectuals" love communism because it's an ideology, and has no practical application.  Real life tends to be hostile to intellectuals, so they retreat to ideology.

MidAmerica

It's totally baffling. I have an incredibly smart brother -- two, in fact -- who BOTH voted for Obama and see him as really smart and intelligent. And they literally don't see any big deal. One after another red flag pops up, and they're indifferent... it's astonishing.

One of them today said, "Well, other than once commenting that Cheney might have known about 9/11 (which is not that far fetched) what's the big deal?"

I kid you not.

 

Okay Shy... So your

Okay Shy...

So your brothers got the brains, but can they sing?

Jer

Jer

No, I'm the only one with both.

EDIT: Now that I got that funny retort out of the way, the truth is, yes, all three of us have both brains and pipes. Here's the proof. And if going back 2 decades doesn't quench your thirst, maybe another decade back

 

Shy...

Very, very nice.  Enjoyed both of those Shy.  Do you and your brothers still perform together--ever?...like at family picnics.   Or is the danger of smashed keyboards and other instruments simply to great to risk it.

Jer

MrShy.... WOW! I loved

MrShy....

WOW!

I loved those....I see where that is in your blood....now which bro' is it that you have the most disagreements with?

(Just joshing ya some friend...you guys are really good.)

'Go Green...Recycle Congress'

BT & Jer

Hey, thanks, really :) Yes, these are oooold videos, and actually some of our better songs (or my favorites) are not on YouTube.

We disbanded in the early 90's, and we definitely had our contentious moments even back when we didn't care much for politics. The super-lib one is the guy with shades and long hair (oops, I have that, too, but he sings the low part, while I do my MJ imitation in faux-dreadlocks) in the "I Can't Control Myself" video, but also the lead singer on our signature theme song (and debut single) "Funky Family".

I'm really psyched, though, about the upcoming Shy video now in production, which I promise will be my crown jewel achievement -- beyond just being a singer/performer. I'm already a bit overwhelmed by the project I've taken on, but it's challenging.

 

MrS... Thanks for the

MrS...

Thanks for the answer to my question...in my mind that is who the brother is you have talked about in the past being the super-lib as I watched/listened to you all...the musical talent with all of you is amazing, did your parents have anything to do with all of this...well beside the obvious answer of genes.  ;-)

Got to get off of here soon...so if I miss answer, I'll check back in morning...

'Go Green...Recycle Congress'

Only the Elite

Only the Elite can truly embrace communism. For everyone else, communism just plain sucks.

If these jackasses had to spend just one single day living the life of an ordinary citizen in a communist society, they wouldn't be so quick to embrace it.

They claim to want it but only because they think that they will be in the Elite class. Those that rule over all others.

Full defensive posture by the MSM

So, You've got to understand, Van Jones is a star. He really is.

And political opponents are after Obama because they believe there's something secretly more radical or further left about Obama than he is letting on right now, and Obama has an exotic background.

And they've scalped one of Obama's advisors, those Wepublican Wight Wascles.

Sounds like the MSM has circled the wagons, loaded their muskets, and are defending the Dear Leader to the death from those damn Right-Wing Republican Indians. This is going to cause a great conflict come Columbus Day next month when they will be obligated to defend said Indians. Wonder how that's going to take place?

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"Tax the rich" is a basically unstable way of governing - The NYT

ThisnThat

They've circled the wagons, loaded their muskets and are defending Dear Leader.  Only problem is they're facing in instead of out and are shooting themselves.

 

"I support the President but not his policies" - Blonde

LOL. We can only hope this

LOL. We can only hope this keeps up, and that casualties mount.

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"Tax the rich" is a basically unstable way of governing - The NYT

Every word

they have spoken is filled with ignorance and bigotry.  thay are not being objective journalist.  They are one sided socialistic smearers just like Jones

"A man who doesn't borrow from the brains of others proves he has no brains of his own."  CH Spurgeon

I regard the "truther" stuff

I regard the "truther" stuff as a minor matter.  The real important disclosures about Jones are his racial hatred of "white people" and his admission that the "green" movement is really a front for communism.  I think both of those are subject to prosecution.

Rush Limbaugh has been

Rush Limbaugh has been saying for years that the environmental movement is the new home for Communists.  Why do you think Gorbachev is also one of the new "green gurus"?

→ How dumb?

And the Tate-La Bianca murders were all things Charles Manson was engaged in before he went to trial.  So what?

How is it a free pass that Jones' comments were made before he joined the Obama Administration?

Has the MSM gone completely daft with their sense of analysis?

Don't answer that.

We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy

not to mention

We were told about DUIs in Sarah Palin's life from 20 years ago, and some nonsense about McDonnell writing an anti-feminist paper in college before I was even born. Lefties are the biggest hypocrits.

 

candance and Cool, it makes

candance and Cool, it makes perfect sense.

Tim Geithner cheated on his taxes before he was in  the Obama administration, and he got to stay.

All Jones would have had to do was say OK, I won't be a Communist any more...

PS Cool....sense of analysis????  Surely you jest!

It's Rationalization 101

Cool, Can & The Belt

ALSO also, let's remember, that Marxist-advocating group, STORM, that Van the Man was part of? It's "now defunkt", so WaPo reminds us. (Calls them the "now defunkt STORM"...)

So, again, let's stay current here. On the ball, people. /sarc

 

A guy at work informed me

A guy at work informed me (true or not, I really don't care) that STORM was only 15 people, as he was defending Jones last week as I was letting him know some things he didn't know.

Well, golly gee Beave, I was wrong about Jones.  Only 15 people in STORM?  Well then, Marxist views in the WhiteHouse are ok, since, after all, the group was only 15.  His views really don't matter.  The size of the group is what's important.  I mean, gosh darnit to heck, he was only ONE Green Jobs czar, thats much less than 15, so his views are of zero significance. </sarc>

Apparently that's the same logic applied to the Obama himself.

GregE... ..and really,

GregE...

..and really, doesn't that say it all for the leftist and their mentality that we are supposed to swallow, hook, line and sinker.

'Go Green...Recycle Congress'

Yep, they know what's best

Yep, they know what's best for all of us.  Just ask em.

Right back at

Right back at them!

...and look at us out there...thank God for those speaking out for us that would do so, but cannot be there!

Making a huge difference...all of them....to the disdain of the elite msm, it wasn't suppose to be this way, we would all bow and be grateful for The ONE.

'Go Green...Recycle Congress'

BT

Someone called him The One Termer.

I also like COIC... Community Organizer in Chief

:) 

MrS... I love that

MrS...

I love that acronym as well!

'Go Green...Recycle Congress'

Well..

If they didn't take this angle, then they'd have to admit they were lax in reporting on Van Jones in the first place.

 

-Ghostbuster

Conservatives getting in the

Conservatives getting in the way of full blown transformation of the United States of America by radicals that pretty much despise it.

If you didn't see this last week check this out.

http://www.youtube.c...

Van Jones is one of them!

Hey, a white hating, communist, tree hugger who hates America?  Sounds like any one of the talking heads on the MSM!

Angry White Dude

www.angrywhitedude.c...
Going to 9-12 DC!

True. Here's part two of

True.

Here's part two of the video I posted.  Couldn't edit.

http://www.youtube.c...

Here is David Horowitz's

Here is David Horowitz's Discover the Networks.....

All the connections are there.

Looks like a great site. 

Looks like a great site.  Thanks!

Awesome.  But, let's try

Awesome.  But, let's try to keep track of what the other hand is doing.

That's the one that'll break our jaw, and despite what some conservative Rebeccas of Sunnybrook Farm out there would like to believe, it's a glass jaw.

One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 86% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.

its racism

I, for one, want to come right out and say that even though Van Jones is an admitted Marxist; an ex-con; an anarchist; someone who finds it appropriate to use vulgar language to disparage an entire political spectrum; a truther; a man who believes that white environmentalists are oppressing brown migrant workers; and a man who believes that mass murder is left to rural white schoolchildren- none of that bothers me. What I find so offensive about him is simply that he is black, and I cannot stand to see a black man advising a black man in the white house- straight up. /sarc off

I figured I'd get it out there on behalf of the nutroots.

Oh yea, that'll show up in a

Oh yea, that'll show up in a google search, get posted on some goof Leftist site, and they'll "mistakenly" leave off the "/sarc off."

That they will, without a

That they will, without a doubt.

'Go Green...Recycle Congress'

You had to know it was coming

Well, apparently I'm a little late as this Politico article displays:

"It struck me, why go after this guy? He is a minor player, he has no
power, no budget, why take him? It's because he looks like Obama and he
has all those same attributes of being well-educated and he’s an
electrifying speaker with an elite education," said John Anner, a good
friend of Jones and former chair of the Ella Baker Center for Human
Rights, an organization Jones founded in Oakland. "It seems to me that
he is symbolic of what the Obama administration is and could be and
that's inspiring for me, but for some people on the right, it's
terrifying and threatening.” (bold is mine)

It seems to me that he is

It seems to me that he is symbolic of what the Obama administration is

Hmmm, I'll take that and say yes.....socialist, redistributive thinker, wants to "transform" America, the great nation.  Yea, he's a symbol in that regard, no doubt.

As for the race part, typical.  And only a matter of time before someone went there. I'm sure we'll hear more of that kind of awesome and profound opinion all over the place in the coming week.

Yeah, apparently communist

Yeah, apparently communist is the new code word for black.

Yep, until the next word

Yep, until the next word that fits into the race playing.

Don't you just love this presidency that is moving race relations forward by leaps and bounds?  Now if they, and their media lapdogs could just get out of their own way.....

<Horschak voice>  Ooh!

<Horschak voice>  Ooh! Ooh! 

I missed one!

John Harwood: but the President does face suspicions from some political opponents because of the exotic nature of his background,

Exotic!!  There's another code word!!

because he looks like Obama

because he looks like Obama ????

I thought Obama's problem was that he looks like Diane Watson!

Is it even racist now for blacks to say someone is black????

BKeyser -

I am soooo telling Olbermann!

cheeser~~

Tell him about this too.

That's It!

"BKeyser, tonight's worst person in pants!" - Olbermann exacting revenge upon BKeyser

Heya cheese!

I hope somebody puts it on YouTube since that's the only way I'll see it...

UPDATE: Think this is next?

The media can talk about

The media can talk about Van Jones and why he resigned (yea, resigned, on his own....BS).  But really, the one thing of significance.....

He's gone.  Bye bye Jones.  Carry your Communist self elsewhere.

I'm sure now he can revert back to all the things that made him a "towering" "legendary" figure.  I'm sure we haven't heard the last of him, and I'm sure whatever we hear in the future will be solid gold.

double post

double post

CZAR'S

Van Jones should have never been in the White House in the first place. Now, Obama must do the right thing and get  rid of the remaining CZAR'S! Since none of them were elected officials, they have no business telling anyone what to do!

doh!!!!

triple post

Hey, Chrissy!

Van Jones resigning sends a tingle up my leg!

Ha! (Using Chris Matthews' annoying laugh...)

Jones was, and is, a radical flake

Reporter Stephanie Sy stressed how Jones' remarks on various topics “were all made before he joined the Obama administration, but made him an easy target for conservatives.” She acknowledged Jones “in fact did describe himself as an aspiring communist revolutionary in his youth,” but, she highlighted, “he said he is the victim of a 'vicious smear campaign of lies and distortion.'” 

I guess the Dems will quit pounding Bob McDonnell, the Republican candidate for governor in Virginia, over his master's thesis from 20 years ago.

Jones may have said those things in the past, but unfortunately, he has given no sign that he's changed his mind on any of it.  Lacking any evidence to the contrary, we must conclude he is still a radical nutjob.  Unfortunately, his resignation will only lead to more media attention for this flake.

“Always love your country — but never trust your government!" -- Bob Novak (1931-2009)

You know what? I really don't care if...

the corrupt, insane lib-nut media and Leftists call the Repub Right/conservatives every name in the book on this one...they can call all of us the Devil himself, for all I care. What I do care about is that Van Jones is history, and is no longer in a position to inflict his wacko, commie agenda on the rest of us, and that is what matters.  

"The problem is not that people are taxed too little...the problem is that government spends too much." ~President Ronald Reagan

Holt then asked John

Holt then asked John Harwood: “Can the Republican Right claim its first scalp in this administration?

I'll answer that Lester:

Damn Strait! And we won't be satisfied until the rest of these UNCONSTITUTIONAL Czars are removed from these pseudo positions of power created by this Thug-in-Chief!

One word I never want to hear again: Bipartisan!

-Sven

Let this be a lesson to all you Libs out there. If you live...

in a glass house, you should not throw stones.  Van Jones decided to throw stones at Glenn Beck.  Big mistake.  If you followed the main stream media, you would not know Van Jones from Van Johnson.  He is history today because of the new media:  talk radio, Fox News, the Drudge Report and the internet.    Jim Webster

Under the Bus

Great title: The Bus Leaves at Midnight, Be Under It: http://bluecrabboulevard.com

And a good point: "... But the strangest part is that virtually none of the leftosphere
raised a finger to defend Jones, either. Until now, that is. Now Jones is a martyr. I suspect they knew all along that he was toast because of his own words and actions and decided to use him as a bloody shirt after he was fired."

 

Praire

Be very careful not to suspect Van Jones will not operate in the background instead of in the open. He is a long time friend of God in the WH, who would not throw him under the bus. Communist are like snakes and roaches they hide waiting to come out and strike.

Next we should force Holder to answer to the public how the FBI allowed Van Jones this kind of access to the president being he is  a self proclaimed communist, with a prison record. What the hell are they turning out in Harvard and Yale anyway?

Then we have to ask the question: What did Obama know about Van Jones background and when did he know it?

Our next Czar to be put under the microscope is the new FCC Czar with his radical revolutionary comments about the wonderful system in Venezuela and Chavez and the right to take over the public airways so it can be silenced.

Isn't change wonderful, Libs thanks again for helping to destroy our country.

Don't worry...I'm not

naive enough to think that Jones and his wacked out theories are completely off Obama's radar screen. Unfortunately, Obama holds the same screwy theories that Jones has, and we're stuck with him, at least until the next election. What I'm wondering about is, will Obama scrap the whole "green czar" idea, or will he wait for this furor to die down and then appoint some other Leftist nutcase to the job??     

"The problem is not that people are taxed too little...the problem is that government spends too much." ~President Ronald Reagan

Hi Sky... Know you

Hi Sky...

Know you weren't asking me, but he or better yet, in conjunction with Jarrett will appoint another one...hoping no one will notice, as they rest of the pile of far left commies he as got away with naming so far as Czars, then again the majority of the msm is still ignoring the BS with Jones and his little problems most Americans have a problem with...they are blaming it on the 'right-wing crazies'.

'Go Green...Recycle Congress'

Hey bt! No problem...

Jump right in! And you're right...No doubt Obama likely has a list of Leftist nuts that he can choose from to fill the job, but if he thinks that no one will be noticing who his next brilliant choice is, he's very much mistaken. This Jones mess has gotten people's attention (finally) I hope, and folks will be paying closer attention to this whole "czar" garbage that O's so enamored with. As I said earlier in this thread, I don't care what we get called for objecting to his choices and making a lot of noise about it, as long as it makes a difference.  

"The problem is not that people are taxed too little...the problem is that government spends too much." ~President Ronald Reagan

I hope that Mini-Van Jones'

I hope that Mini-Van Jones' scalp is just the first of many to go from this administration.

 And this sour grapes "victim" stuff is both expected and typical.

Get lost, Jonesy!  And go peddle your "green" garbage somewhere else.

 

→ Seabeach

But given his lack of hair, how do you hang it from your belt?

We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy

Damn straight...and I predicted it

on another blog here.  YEA,  I pretty much said it as clear as can be.

But let me extend that comment to say:

WHITE PEOPLE WILL BE TO BLAME for his departure...not just conservatives, not just Republicans, not just Christians...BUT Specifically....W H I T E   folk.

THERE, I SAID IT !!!

How can Obie take a man immersed in controversy and turn him into a czar to be praised among Obie's adoring gallery?

There's an easy answer to this question and ANYONE can answer it.

That's odd

Whenever a Libertarian does something they blame the Republicans.  Unless Glenn Beck isn't a Libertarian, then that really would be news.

Just a little quote for Van

"All men that are ruined, are ruined on the side of their natural propensities."--- Edmund Burke

His past caught up with his present.

self "smear"

So Van Jones says he was "smeared". Beck replayed a damn video tape of the scumbag. That's not a smear; thats EVIDENCE!. Frank Capra did a similar thing in the 40's by replaying Hitler, Mussolini's speaches to reveal in their own words their true intentions. It was in a newsreal series called"Why we Fight". THIS is the way to stop these Communists. Get their "message/crimes out in public for them. 

Michael Klonsky Is In There

somewhere, I am sure of it. He would be the worst of the lot.

Stephanie has proven that higher IQs among Asians doesn't...

Stephanie has proven that higher IQs among Asians doesn't always apply. "Reporter Stephanie Sy stressed how Jones' remarks on various topics “were all made before he joined the Obama administration, but made him an easy target for conservatives.” She acknowledged Jones “in fact did describe himself as an aspiring communist revolutionary in his youth,” but, she highlighted, “he said he is the victim of a 'vicious smear campaign of lies and distortion.'” Sy featured Howard Dean lamenting Jones will no longer be able “to help this country,” before she concluded: “Democrats worry that Van Jones is only the first of Mr. Obama's so-called policy czars...that will be targeted by Republicans."

First, it doesn't matter when Jones said the things he said. He said them. Second, he is a communist and the smears are, in fact, the truth. Third, the blathering idiot, Howard Dean, worries that Jones can't help this country--oh joy! Last, we can only hope and pray that Jones is only the first. If we failed to target these nuts, there would be something terribly wrong with all of us!

Oh, I understand now. 

Oh, I understand now.  Those remarks were made BEFORE he joined the administration.  Ok, that makes them alright then.   Free pass for Obama and his commie buddy.

"I dont need to read a newspaper to know the world's been shaved by a drunken barber."

Walter Brennan, The Colonel, Meet John Doe, 1941

              

              Jones is a victim, boo hoo, boo hoo. It wasn't the republicans that brought down Jones. It was the people.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              

The people had help

Jones brought himself down by running his mouth--at least he told us what he was and where he was coming from. And he said much of it twice in case we didn't get it the first time!

Score so far: Glenn Beck 1; Obama administration 0.

Jim Webster

Wow, they still think Obama

Wow, they still think Obama hit a homerun with this guy. Ridiculous.

The Rocky Mountain Collegian: Illustrating Idiocy

Not surprised

I'm not the least bit surprised Howard Dean and the democrats would come to the defense of a communist.  I've always believed the democrat party had socialist, communist and athiestic leanings.

"I dont need to read a newspaper to know the world's been shaved by a drunken barber."

Walter Brennan, The Colonel, Meet John Doe, 1941

Olberman

KO is asking for dirt on Glenn Beck, saying send in all you know about Beck, Stu, and Ailes. Tuesday he will post a dedicated E-mail address. I, for one will oblige this jerk and send him everything I can. I hope his inbox is big. I hope everyone out there helps Keith-baby dig up the dirt. Server capacity be damned, if he wants the scoop on Stu I'll send him the scuttlebutt. Join in the fun!

Memo to Whitehouse

Memo to Whitehouse: See addendum to Rules for Radicals

Rule Eleben

If  FOX gets in hen house

Save rooster 

Get the flock outta there 

Throw the mother flocker under the bus 

It's America, not Omerica

 

"Obama is fast losing white voters' support." That is the

headline of a Los Angeles Times article.

The Times' Peter Wallsten writes:

New surveys show steep declines in Obama's approval ratings among whites -- including Democrats and independents -- who were crucial elements of the diverse coalition that helped elect the country's first black president.

Among white Democrats, Obama’s job approval rating has dropped 11 points since his 100-days mark in April, according to surveys by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press. It has dropped by 9 points among white independents and whites over 50, and by 12 points among white women -- all groups that will be targeted by both parties in next year's midterm elections.

"While Obama has a lock on African Americans, his support among white voters seems to be almost in a free fall," said veteran Republican pollster Neil Newhouse....

But the drop in support among whites also comes as some conservatives have stoked controversies that have the potential to further erode Obama's standing among centrists -- including some controversies that resulted from White House stumbles.

One such episode came to a head Sunday when Van Jones, Obama’s green jobs czar, resigned after a week of criticism over past inflammatory statements and for signing onto conspiracy theories questioning whether the U.S. government played a role in the Sept. 11 attacks. A White House official acknowledged Sunday that Jones had been vetted less rigorously than other officials.

In another episode, some conservatives have criticized a White House dinner invitation issued to the lead lawyer in the American Civil Liberties Union lawsuits that have forced the government to disclose Bush-era interrogation techniques. The lawyer was invited to an event for the Muslim holiday of Ramadan......

More than half of whites older than 50 approved of Obama's job performance in April. But now, after weeks of Republican accusations that the Democrats would seek to cut Medicare benefits, that number is 43%. Among white Democrats, Obama's approval rating dropped to 78%, from 89%.

From The Cook Political Report: House Overview: Could 2010 Be the “Year of the Angry White Senior?

→ RushFan

"While Obama has a lock on African Americans"

Sounds racist to me.  Especially when you consider George Soros' held a similar position during WWII.

We will Barry you! - Russian prophecy

New WH Spin

Great post at redstate, pointing out the current White House spin on Van Jones -"he wasn't in that senior a position, so he wasn't vetted thoroughly," contradicts the buildup he was given and the fact that the Green Czar position was created specially for him:

The Van Jones Resignation Raises More Serious Questions: http://www.redstate.com

Re 'Lock on Blacks'

This is the obvious line for the liberal media to take, because then they can blame it on racism. Unfortunately for them, it's just not true. Zogby numbers from a poll August 31:

Democrats Aug. 31 July 24
Approve 75% 88%
Disapprove 13% 10%
Not Sure 12% 2%

Liberals Aug. 31 July 24
Approve 86% 95%
Disapprove 4% 4%
Not Sure 10% 2%

African-Americans Aug. 31 July 24
Approve 74% 83%
Disapprove 21% 17%
Not Sure 5% 4%

So among democratics the Bamster was down 13%, liberals 9%, and blacks 9%. The disapproval numbers for blacks increased more that liberals or democratics. Sounds to me like blacks are not that distinct from liberals or democratics as a group. But of course that's no big story and not evidence of 'racism'.

Ehem... Excuse Me!!!

The Republicans (with the exception of a precious few) have been silent on this czar debacle.  We, the people have asked why the republicans have not spoken out.  We asked for answers and we begged for action, but our pleas fell on deaf elephant ears.  Out of digust with the way our constitution is being desecrated; We, the people have teamed up with Glenn Beck and many bloggers and got the job done on at least 1 of the czars.  The annoying part is the Republicans are being credited for the resignation of Van Jones?!  What an insult!!!

“It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds”

Samuel Adams

mizflame... Excellent

mizflame...

Excellent point gal...and then some...I am finally hearing a few voices from the 'R' side of the aisle now...after this has happened, I mean where they are getting attention time on Fox at least, but this should have been done long ago using Fox as the bully-pulpit...at least it's a start, but giving credit, where credit is due like you say is lacking.

Long time no see....good to see you here today as well as Dee.

'Go Green...Recycle Congress'

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Glad to be back BT.

“It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds”

Samuel Adams

1st Scalp

So right wingers got their first scalp? Cool, it's about time.

 

"but can the Republican

"but can the Republican Right claim its first scalp in this administration, and how big a deal is it?"

I suppose this is a suitable alternative to using the term "lynching"?

"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out
of other people's money."

—Margaret Thatcher

Yea QM, Who invented "scalp" In this context ?

What are we a bunch of savages running around out here.

Lynching could be tied to the KKK and we know what party started that group.

State controlled health care is Tort Reform.

First Scalp?

Could be the first N****r Communist scalp. Bring it on Liberal White haters. We are about fed up with you. Actually really fed up now. Keep screwing up and see what happens.

PLANT ALERT

That attitude is unacceptable here. Kindly apologize or show yourself to the door.

 

cleanup on aisle 5!

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We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt.  ~Thomas Jefferson

Marc

Marc, please don't use that kind of language in this forum. 

 

"I support the President but not his policies" - Blonde

How has this post not been

How has this post not been deleted?

~Good question

 

Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today

one word makes all the difference.

Outside of Marc's use of the word N****r, what's the problem? Everything he says is true, and I agree with everything he says. Obama is no black man, in the Chris Rock sense of the phrase, and we all know that.

Marc, the use of the word N****r is not appropriate for this forum.  I suggest the use of a phrase like "white-hating black" or "a black who hates white people" in the future. Hope this helps.

To the rest of you, let me try to give you something to think about. Have you ever thought it's time to stop worrying about being so "civil?"  It seems we are in a war, and it seems some of you want to keep bringing a tennis racquet - to a gun fight. Perhaps fighting fire with fire is the way to go. 

You're going to be called racist no matter what you say anyway. 

 

 

 

 

→ Respect?

Maybe I don't want to grow up to be the same racist Van Jones is.

Maybe I don't need the "N" word in my vocabulary to impress people.  If I can't make my point without it, maybe I should just shut up.

OK, so we're in a war (of words and ideology).  My cause isn't advanced, nor is its message enhanced by using that word.

Van Jones is a Quitter - FS

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I see it more as a turf war, and I'd bet there are people in California who'd agree with me.  Then again, I've seem the ground level effects of multi-culturism," which is, by the way, a left wing concept, I believe. It's not working, and I don't see how it's ever going to work.   

Frankly, I'm just as

Frankly, I'm just as concerned about the nature of the threat implied by the admonishment that liberals will "see what happens if they keep screwing up".  The overall tone of the post suggests Marc has something in mind other than "we may vote you out of office in accordance with this nation's splendid electoral process."

But, what do I know.  After all, I've been informed by staff that I should lighten up about Obama death wish posts at NB.

Jer

edited to add:  I'm not referring to Marc's post in the closing paragraph.

100% NO

I will not align myself with someone who uses racist language. No way, no how, no excuses. And it doesn't have anything to do with what the left calls me.

have it your way.

I used to feel that way, but after being around blacks, and being called "cracker," honkey, MF white boy" and worse, I grew tired of it and started giving it right back. Lo and behold, it worked.  I suppose it's because they respected me, because I wouldn't take their chit. so we reached a mutual understanding, I suppose.

I did it because it WORKED. 

That's why I no longer have a problem with it, at the right time and place, although I know it's not appropriate for this forum. So I guess you wouldn't be able to align yourelf with someone like me, Candace, because I will use them when I have to.  And that's fine, each to their own.

 

 

apparently not

In my world, "they started it" doesn't count as justification. And just because something "works" doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. Beating my children might get them to be quiet, but it's not worth it. The end doesn't always justify the means.

If people used to call you those names, trust me it's not out of "respect" that they stopped.

 

 

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They stopped Candice, and it worked.   It sure LOOKED like respect, with maybe some fear.  Fear is fine.  I don't care what they thought of me, they left me alone.  

Why should I "trust you" when you probably haven't been in a similiar situation?  You certainly weren't in MY situation, so how would you know how they reacted?  The fact is, you don't know. 

And comparing beating your children to keep them quiet, to doing what I had to do to survive against aggressive antagonistic people is hardly an apples to apples comparison.    

But, by all means, do it your way. if it makes you happy. I have to go and I'm out of here.  I think I've made my point, and I'm sure most will disagree with me, and that's fine. 

 

Mike~

If your "justification" for use of that term is in the narrow scope that you defined it as: "doing what I had to do to survive against aggressive antagonistic people," then there would be no need for you to use it on here.

 

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I'm back, but I have to get going, but want to add this,

Yes, I know, Georgia Girl, that it's unappropriate for this website, and pointed it that out to Marc. I'm taking a guess that he's a probably a good guy, but has experienced some of the frustration and anger I've experienced and is totally fed up with Team Obama and their ridiculous antics.   So he let it slip at the wrong time and the wrong place. That's my take.  It's not the end of the world.  

The point I was trying to make, and will try to make again, is this. Someone said: "We need to remember that we should be the civilized voice. We already know the left is insane...we don't need to give in to their tactics."

Really, are they insane? Their tactics have worked wonderfully on their behalf, transforming this once great country into a what is rapidly becoming a third world cesspool. For all practical purposes, they declared war on normal Americans decades ago, and most of the so-called conservative movement acts like it's a tennis match.

Maybe it's time conservatives became a little less civilized, and more barbaric - and played to win - by any means necessary.  

What would happen if, say, conservatives adopted something like "rules for radicals"  as a means to achieve their ends? I can attest that fighting fire with fire WORKS on a small, personal scale, so maybe it'd work on a bigger scale too. Maybe the right should stop bitching about the left's tactics and start using them.   

This is what I hope people will think about.  Later. 

 

~

Outside of Marc's use of the word N****r, what's the problem?

What did you think people were objecting to?

Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today

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 His use of the phrase, N****r.  I thnk it's pretty obvious. 

First of all...

Marc, that was totally uncalled for! We need to remember that we should be the civilized voice. We already know the left is insane...we don't need to give in to their tactics.

Second, what is really disturbing is that the MSM is so blind and so in the tank for Obama, that they are actually disappointed that an avowed Communist is no longer a part of this administration.

What's even more disturbing is what I read on a liberal blog recently about Jones: "If you read recent literature, he had a bit of a streak as identifying
himself as communist as a youth, much like others of his age."

We can all relate to that right? Didn't we all have that bout in our young lives when we were aspiring to rise up through the ranks of the Communist Party?

Young people can be so misguided....

 

"If God is dead, somebody is going to have to take his place. It will
be megalomania or erotomania, the drive for power or the drive for
pleasure, the clenched fist or the phallus, Hitler or Hugh Hefner."
— Malcolm Muggeridge