Cheney on Powell vs. Limbaugh: 'I'd Go with Rush Limbaugh'

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To Bob Schieffer's astonishment, when he wrapped up his Sunday interview by asking former Vice President Dick Cheney where he comes down between Rush Limbaugh and Colin Powell who both say the Republican Party would be “better off” without the other, Cheney declared: “I'd go with Rush Limbaugh.”  

Cheney related on CBS's Face the Nation how “my take on it was Colin had already left the party. I didn't know he was still a Republican.” Schieffer was surprised: “So you think that he's not a Republican?” Cheney explained: “I just noted he endorsed the Democratic candidate for President this time, Barack Obama. I assume that that's some indication of his loyalty and his interests.” To which an astounded Schieffer pressed Cheney to reaffirm his choice: “And you said you take Rush Limbaugh over Colin Powell?” Cheney confirmed his preference.

From the Sunday, May 10 Face the Nation:

BOB SCHIEFFER: Rush Limbaugh said the other day the that the party would probably be better off if Colin Powell left and just became a Democrat. Colin Powell said Republicans would be better off if they didn't have Rush Limbaugh speaking for them. Where do you come down?

DICK CHENEY: Well, if I had to choose, in terms of being a Republican, I'd go with Rush Limbaugh I think. My take on it was Colin had already left the party. I didn't know he was still a Republican.

SCHIEFFER: So you think that he's not a Republican?

CHENEY: I just noted he endorsed the Democratic candidate for President this time, Barack Obama. I assume that that's some indication of his loyalty and his interests.

SCHIEFFER: And you said you take Rush Limbaugh over Colin Powell?

CHENEY: I would, politically.

—Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center


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I wish our X VP

would run for President.

He puts all the others to shame. We need a gentle but tough man who has a plain spoken, well reasoned message.

He'd run rings around the TelePrompter and it's human stand in!

 

I wonder if Zell is still around...

I wonder how amazed Bob was when Zell Miller spoke at the 2004 Republican Convention. Silly is as silly does.

______________________
Moderate... Democrat... Liberal... Progressive... Socialist... Communist—The progression is clear as day.

If Cheney ran for President.

Hi Delsa

Realistically what kind of shot do you think he would have to defeat Barack Obama if the economy is not in total shambles in 2012?

He had my vote

Hey Shawn

Dick Cheney is the most honest, streight talking, GOD loving, Constitution loving, America loving, OUT-SPOKEN.....

We need a LEADER! We do not need a panderer and DC would NOT pander to a damn soul. 

He will look you in the eye and tell you the truth not what you want to hear.

If it doesn't work well so be it.

If not him, find a leader in his mold to represent the Republican party and if they can't win over the "middle" with ideas, F em.

I am tired of running crap.

The latest thing this SOB-ama is going to do is change the rules as they pertain to Gays in the military.

Question: How fast can one SOB and his storm troopers destroy this country?

Answer: Less than one year!

 

Hey Delsa

RE: Obama & Gays in the Military...check this item out over at Blackfive.

The comments are really interesting.  But I think everyone there who doesn't care about open gays serving misses one very big point.  If gays are allowed to openly serve in the military, I believe the gay-marriage activists are going to try to push their agenda down the military's throat post-haste, to wit, gay "partners" should be accorded equal status as married dependents of military members.  I suspect they believe if they can force a gay-marriage equivalency on the military, it will be much easier to foist it on the nation as a whole.

Also, eliminating DADT was one of Obama's campaign pledges, and after the brouhaha re: Carrie Prejean, he needs to offer a sop to the left for his stance on traditional marriage.  So he'll serve up the troops on a plate, no doubt about it.

 

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

→ Meanwhile

Meanwhile, he cuts in half, the death benefits of fallen law enforcement officers.

Good thing he has a keen sense of what can be cut from the budget.

LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

Blonde; It is interesting

Blonde;

It is interesting to consider what would happen to the military if DADT is scrapped.

WOuld the slide that would occur also allow supposed military dependents of gay members to draw health benefits?

Would we also have thus allow other alternative lifestyles in as well such as line marriages (marriage in which individuals are "Co-opted" to a group marriage?)

WOuld we have to recognize multiple partners?  Pentads?  Triads?

At which point do we stop allowing alternative lifestyles in? 

THis debate has never been about marriage to the gay rights community, but rather defeating tradition and elevating their position to normalcy.

My point, exactly BD

I think tossing DADT is a first step to as a wedge for gay marriage.

I believe the liberals see the integration of the armed forces as the model for this agenda as well. Because in this instance of pushing the gay marriage agenda, the population effected will have absolutely NO SAY in the matter, unlike voters who continue to say "hell no"....except to vote with their feet (hmmm...hadn't considered THAT....but it may be another liberal tactic to eviscerate the efficacy of the Military).

IMO, it's all bad. Very bad.

 

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

i remember the vp debate from 2000, and thinking

i wish these two (cheney and lieberman) were running at the top of the ticket, instead of the bottom.  both of them seemed like two level-headed cool customers who deferred to ration and logic in a time of crisis.

 

swing hard in case you hit it.

I still remember all the

I still remember all the pre-debate hype in 2004 when the media predicted that that shyster John Edwards would wipe the floor with Cheney.  I knew Cheney would kick his ass...and true to form, Cheney brought that boy behind the woodshed and gave him the rhetorical flogging of a lifetime.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill

Delsa: I share your

Delsa: I share your sentiments re: Cheney. But I don't think it's something at all realistic given his age and his health concerns. He's in a perfect place right now to speak the truth without having to worry about future political consequences.

Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand

QueenMum

I agree Cheney will not run. I just thank God we have him in whatever capacity!

Hey Delsa...and

Hey Delsa...and Mum...

 This is why I love to post Cheney 2012 now and then...hehehe

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Re Powell

You would think the simple question 'are you a Republican' would have occurred to those that have interviewed Powell recently. Maybe the answer would be too inconvenient for the standard liberal talking points though.

Re Vice-President Cheney, isn't it interesting that the man ridiculed as 'on his deathbed' when he ran with President George W. Bush in 2000, is nine years later one of the Bamster's most vigorous critics?

Re Powell, he is easily the most overrated and inconsequential politician in America today. Why doesn't he get off his butt and run for something, or is it so much easier to be a pundit? To emerge from his cave every couple of months and throw a pearl or two of his wisdom at his admirers?

Since you can't tell the difference

Since you can't tell the difference between Powell and any moderate democrat, The answer should have been obvious.

Why anyone would ask these questions of someone who supported a far left candidate like Obama is beyond me.

I absolutely agree re Powell. He could have walked into the presidency or the vice presidency just a few short years ago with the support of the entire centrist spectrum, but chose not to. His actions since have not endeared him to the more conservative elements of the GOP. He may be a little too stuffy for the radical left, but it has been a long time since he could call himself a republican. 

He's the kind of

He's the kind of "Republican" democrats and the media love....one who agrees with Democrats.

I've heard Rush say that the only reason Powell endorsed Obama was race.  I disagree.  Powell never endorsed before.  He siad he only did it this time because the stakes were so high, or something, bu I think his refusal to endorse before was to hide his true allegiance.  No one can convince me that in the privacy of the booth he was voting Republican!

They might say "Wow, that sucks!"  But at least they'll say "Wow!"  -Duff Goldman, the Ace of Cakes

No kidding!

If anybody still had any doubt about Powell's party preference, his saying, "Americans want more taxes and more government." and not gagging, should have sealed the deal. No real Republican could ever utter such blasphemy without following it up with, "What a sad state of affairs." or "Is that sad, or what?", or "Where did it all go so wrong?" or something like that.

Old Salt... When Powell said

Old Salt...

When Powell said that I didn't know whether to laugh of let my blood pressure rise...

I laughed.

He's been showing his true colors for years now.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Powell's been talking to Democrats.

Powell hasn't been talking with a cross-section of American society, he's been talking with Democrats.  Hell, if I had the record of paying taxes that Democrats had, I'd be in favor of higher taxes also. 

I'm looking forward to Obama's Hollywood buddies paying their fair share of taxes.   I hope it makes them cream their jeans when they write out those checks.  

Election 2008-God's way of showing us that elections count.  

what, me work?

Powell won't run for any office because he might actually have to work for a job, vs. sucking up for a handout.

That man is the absolute characature of the plantation (dare I say it?...sure) negro.  Just stay cool, say "Yassa Massa" a lot, and eventually they'll notice you and give you a handout, a leg up, and maybe throw you a bone from the dining room table in the Big House.

His life and career are built upon the shifting sands of affirmative action and handouts from various benefactors.

Hmmm...sounds a lot like that other guy, the one with the telecheatsheet. 

 

No pun intended, but Colin Powell is...

...showing his "true colors" and has been for years now. Anyone who is surprised at his recent tirades against his "party" has been living with their heads in the sand. Powell has been a RINO long enough and might as well follow Arlen Specter's footsteps to the dark side.

It would be one less RINO to worry about - and hey, General, don't let the door hit you on your liberal, hypocritical butt on the way out.

"Inferior people should not be employed." - Firesign Theatre

gt... Couldn't agree

gt...

Couldn't agree more.

Plus what had me laughing this morning was good ol' Bob asking Cheney one more time who he would take, when he repeated Rush... Bob acted as if that was major breaking news.

What part of when Cheney states something he means it that the msm refuse to comprehend?

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Oh, I see said the blind man-----

What's astounding is that Shieffer can't grasp the concept of how someones presidential endorsement would be a tip-off to their political leanings and Cheney can certainly interpret it without parsing.

 

Rush did make an observation concerning Powell's endorsement and it was that the support was 100% a racial one, no more deep thinking than that. Wow, he looks like me....

→ Thanks Brent

Being unencumbered, as I am, with the task of fleshing out the scenario, I rushed in on another thread to post my observation of this exchange.

I had no doubt whatsoever one of our fine contributors would also make note of Schieffer's surprise.

You did not fail me.

LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

Schieffer always gets that

Schieffer always gets that confused/baffled look when he hears an opinion not previously approved by the DC/NYC liberal cocktail crowd. Funny to watch him squirm on camera.

No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.

Support Limbaugh over

Support Limbaugh over Powell???

Damn Skippy..

Dear Bob S.

I too would take Limbaugh over Powell, any day. 

My dad used to tell me that the best way to judge a man was if you'd sit down to dinner with him, along with your family.  For VP Cheney, the answer is "hell yes, in a heartbeat".  For Mr. Powell, "hell no".  And for Mr. Obama, " NO".

Party v. Ideology

Again, a political party is not a political philosophy. Parties are strictly about elections. They're basically an electoral joint venture; we agree to support the same candidates (for whatever reason). Therefore, if you support Democratic candidates, you're a Democrat. By definition.

And that's not a crime. Freedom means you can vote for whoever you want, for whatever reason.

But if you want to persuade others what makes a "true" Republican, you surrender your credibility when the GOP nominates your friend, but you vote for the Democrat despite that. At that point, you have no right to tell anyone what a Republican is, or should be. 

 

Maybe we're looking at this

Maybe we're looking at this from a different angle, but I see it another way.

When people say "the parties should just forget about their own benefit and do what's right for the country" my first response is "but the parties have different ideas about what is right for the country. That's  why we have different political parties. 

People band together with those they agree with.  Someone who belongs to a political party  has the same ideological outlook as the rest in the party.  You can't say, for instance, that Powell agrees with Democrats, but remains a "Republican" for purposes of election.  That doesn't make sense, in my mind.  

Why did he remain a Republican if he agrees more with Democrats?  Did he really think it was better to side with Republicans, for purpose of election?  What was the advantage to him in doing that?  Why would he want to elect those he didn't agree with?

Why did Powell ever want to BE a Republican in the first place?

I thoroughly agree with you on one thing though:  whatever credibility Colin Powell once had, it is long gone. He is either a person who was a Republican  who switched his vote for racial reasons,  or claimed he was  Republican for years before that, when he disagreed with them on nearly everything.  

Neither one is pretty. And he has no more right to lecture Republicans than does any Democrat.

They might say "Wow, that sucks!"  But at least they'll say "Wow!"  -Duff Goldman, the Ace of Cakes

Let's think about that

"Someone who belongs to a political party has the same ideological outlook as the rest in the party."

That's probably where we disagree. So let me make my case, mb. I know you know these things, mb, but let me say them to lay out my case.

There are so many issues that go into a political perspective: legal theory, terrorist policy, bank policy, gay marriage, relations with Latin America, inflation, tax policy, embryonic stem cell research, interrogation and/or torture, environmentalism, and to different degree, dozens more.

Few of us share the exact same balance of issues, or see each issue with the same importance as everyone else. I believe in a strong military first, and I'll bet that Colin Powell does also, so we probably share that as a central political conviction, and that's why we both usually vote Republican. But on other issues, we diverge. I'm pro-life, he's pro-choice. The same split occurs among all of us, to one degree or another. You and I probably share most convictions, but we probably split on some issues as well. C'est la vie! 

A political party, therefore, is a marriage of covenience. To the degree that the party reflects most, or the most important convictions, we vote that way. The parties are therefore always in a state of flux. Eisenhower, for instance, was a liberal. Powell is a liberal. That pendulum swings, and the media is trying very hard to make it swing liberal again.

Ideology, though, doesn't change. Ideology is your philosophical theory about the relationship of government to freedom. That ain't a pendulum, and it doesn't swing.

Conservatism is a philosophy of government, and I argue the Constitution reflects a conservative philosophy. The Founding Fathers' real revolution, their true breakthrough, was to treat government as a citizen-owed joint venture. America was the first modern State which didn't assume that an individual's role in the universe was to contribute to the State. That's the heart of conservatism, that the meaning life isn't found in the State.

Only conservatism defends the distinction between the common good and the government. Contributing to one doesn't necessarily mean you've contributed to the other. In fact, we conservatives believe that giving money to the government is the least efficient way to support the common good.

Liberals call us heartless because they just take for granted that to help the common good, you contribute to the government. The government is not the common good.

That's where Powell crossed the line between party and ideology. No conservative will ever tell you that we need more government. In my opinion, that's exactly what the Founding Fathers didn't want.

I'd take Rush over Powell

I'd take Rush over Powell any day.

A nation cannot be free without a free, unbiased media. We are not free.

Like the rest of his tribe

Like the rest of his tribe Shieffer no doubt sees Limbaugh as more evil than Satan.  So he's dumbfounded to hear anyone choose Limbaugh over someone who has the Cloak of Virtue imparted by the proper skin color.  Most basically:  what decent person would ever side with the white guy?

   I could give General

   I could give General Powell the benefit of the doubt for endorsing obama because obama ran in the Presidential election endorsing a lot of centrist or even moderately conservative positions like cutting taxes and balancing the budget.  Well we now know he has done no such thing but has actually run a far left government.  So if Powell still continues to support obama then there is no way Powell can consider himself a Republican.

  But really... we know.... nobody is fooling anybody... Powell is being loyal to skin color then politics

Me too, Mr. Vice President.

Millions of conservatives and Republicans have been listening to Rush Limbaugh for years.  And they have been entertained and educated.  Limbaugh’s ability to maintain an enormous audience is extraordinary.  

As a popular political sage, my guess is General Powell will have the staying power of…. let’s say… General Wesley Clark.  

Some people diminish their reputation with public exposure, and I think General Powell falls into that category.  His record of service in Viet Nam is laudatory.  His political opinions are trite.  

And in the past couple of years, Bob Schieffer has blown the opportunity he once had to retire with the reputation of an evenhanded moderator.  He’s just another liberal advocate.

Powell's been claiming - MSM is fawning..

Powell's been claiming that the American people are in favor of the government doing more. MSM is fawning.. at the news and all to anxious to pass the message along (well, it's their message.) Should not they correct him?

USA/Gallup Poll. March 27-29. What's the biggest threat to the country: Big Business, big labor or big government? Big gov't won 55% to 32% over big business, with big labor trailing at 10%.

CNN Poll. Dec. 19-21, 2008. 52% said the gov't is trying to do to much; 45% said it should do more.

Newsweek Poll. March 4-5, 2009. Was split 44% to 44% for a smaller gov't providing more services to a bigger gov't providing more services.

Gallup Poll. March 5-8, 2009. "Some people think the government is trying to do too many things that should be left to individuals and businesses. Others think that government should do more to solve our country's problems. Gov't trying to do too many things took the cake at 47% to 42% for doing more.

CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll. Dec. 19-21, 2008. "Some people think the government is trying to do too many things that should be left to individuals and businesses. Others think that government should do more to solve our country's problems. Which comes closer to your own view?" Trying to do too much wins by 52% to 45%

→ Gary Hall

Somebody help me out here.

What great military achievement did Colin Powell accomplish?

Other than (while Secretary of State) selling the world on WMD, which he seems now content to allow Americans believe he was forced into, what has he done?

I'm ashamed to admit I was one of those Republicans willing to overlook a lot because I was so happy an African American (military hero?) seemed capable of thinking like a Republican.

LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

Apparently the operative

Apparently the operative word there is "seemed."

They might say "Wow, that sucks!"  But at least they'll say "Wow!"  -Duff Goldman, the Ace of Cakes

→ Right mb

"seemed" is the same operative that had more than 50% of America flocking to the loving arms of Obama.

I'm convinced that to many white Americans, there was a wrong that needed to be righted.  Having done that, I'm happy to realize, in my lifetime, that racism has been eradicated.

Now let's get our heads screwed on straight and attack his silly policies on their lack of merits.

LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

Cool ->>

Besides that - my interest is not in attacking Powell. He's free to do what he wishes to do.

My issue is that, he - like so many others - can make claims not supported by the facts... 'Americans now want government to be bigger and do more for them..' and as usual, the media runs with it in the usual effort to promote their agenda. Who amongst them is going to question him: "General. With due respect, our polls don't indicate that is an accurate statement."

But then again, the Republican party is so stupid - that they'll put twenty of their top pundits out there who will not correct the General on the fact; rather will limit their attacks to labeling him as a thorn in the side. And, guess what? The MSM will run with that story as well.."Tonite - Republican Party feels the pain  - Powell is..."

(;~/ gary

→ Big Government

I want my government to be big enough to admit it's not their job to be big.

LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

Powell's been claiming that

Powell's been claiming that the American people are in favor of the government doing more.

Well, Gary, all the "American people" that he knows want the government to do more!

They might say "Wow, that sucks!"  But at least they'll say "Wow!"  -Duff Goldman, the Ace of Cakes

Good observation mb

He's been a Washington insider since 1989, when he was appointed to the Joint Chiefs.

I'm just wondering why he does the crawfish maneuver on the WMD.

LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

This May Be Poor Etiquette

I hate to post something from memory without spending the time to look it up.  But I have mistrusted Colon Powell ever since I read somewhere that it was his insistence to Bush the elder that the carnage of the "Highway of Death" was "unAmerican" that lead directly to  what turned out to be a premature cease fire in Desert Storm.

I curesed them both for their arrogance, my son was not of military age at the time, but I knew that taking America's foot off Saddam's throat would lead inevitably to another war.  Sure enough, my son and both of my nephews ended up fighting in Iraq, largely because Colon Powell didn't want to finish the job (I understand the Brits and Saudis did and were aghast when we unilaterally declared the cease fire).  This story may be entirely inaccurate, but it has always colored my opinion of the man, and his actions over the last year or so certainly re-enforce my opinion.

Meanwhile back in bizzaro world...

Schieffer was surprised: “So you think that he's (Powell) not a Republican?”

Bob's obvious surprise is no....well...surprise.  Shieffer also thinks of himself as an objective journalist.

he thinks of himself as

he thinks of himself as a JOURNALIST - which is appalling enough - lets not give him extra credit

government is the communists capitalism

I'm happy to see our former

I'm happy to see our former VP endorse Rush as the defacto head of the republican party. The GOP needs to jettison Steele and install Rush if they want the party to succeed.  I think the dems would shutter at the thought of how Rush could energize the party and play a major part in taking back all they have lost in the last two elections. Cheney should step up and take a major role as well.  The both of them together would greatly facilitate a return of the the republicans back to power. GO LIMBAUGH/CHENEY!

→ goldbar

Please direct our attention to [sic]"defacto".

You say that was the claim.  I demand you prove it.

LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

Ha!

Best joke I've seen you post all week.

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

But aparently he

But aparently he "Shutters."....

True, BD

See below.

"Self licking ice cream cone"?  That was a good one, too.

Can't you just see all of the dem's quickly shuttering their windows upon Rush Limbaugh's ascension to the chairmanship of the RNC?

 

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

to which he re-implements

to which he re-implements Reaganism as the "JFK MEMORIAL PLATFORM OF LOW TAXES AND A STRONG DEFENSE - ALONG WITH ALL THAT CATHOLIC STUFF REGARDING ABORTION AND SO-CALLED GAY MARRIAGE"

its not too wordy 

government is the communists capitalism

Really, goldbar?

So if VP Cheney had responded "Powell" instead of "Limbaugh", in your mind, that would have made Colin Powell the de facto head of the GOP?

As for the rest of your liberal spew, Dude!!!! it's already happened, hence the continued excoriation of Rush Limbaugh by all democrats, from The Bamster on down to the least important liberals (um, that would be you), on a daily, nay, hourly basis! 

Troll on, goldbar.  Your liberal twitisms are always amusing.

<edit>  P.S.  It's shudder, not shutter (something with which one protects windows in preparation for a hurricane).

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

Limbaugh, Cheney, Palin,

Limbaugh, Cheney, Palin, Jindal, let them all assume the top rung of the ladder. Get Powell out of there.  He's a democrat and doesn't belong in our beloved party.  GO LIMBAUGH!!

→ Who are you?

And what have you done with goldbar?

How is it you get smarter after the start of happy hour?

LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

I want Rush to lead the

I want Rush to lead the party out of the darkness and would love to see Joe the Plumber take a more active role in the party platform.  I think he's just great!  

I hope he fails, too.

Poor little troll

Skippy, if you're going to quote me, get it right, okay?

Nice unacknowledged edit there, BTW.

 

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

Sorry blonde, I tip my hat

Sorry blonde, I tip my hat AND bow my head to you. Please keep me in line and sorry I edited sans your permission.

Why do you call me a

Why do you call me a liberal?? I've seen the light and changed party's just like Specter. 

I really like a Palin/Jindal ticket in '12 provided Rush is the party chair. What's everyone else's dream ticket? 

Hey gb...you do provide

Hey gb...you do provide comic releif...for that alone I appreciate you.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

This isn't comedy.  I'm

This isn't comedy.  I'm buying into an undervalued stock.  While everyone is selling off, I'm buying in.  I may be just what the republicans are looking for in a voter. Pro gun rights, anti-illegal immigrant, fiscal responsibilty, accountability for your own actions. Go GOP!

→ Good Idea goldbar

Just look at what CTIC, XDLS, and VNDA did this week.

It's a matter of choosing principles and sticking with them.

LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

→ Easy there bt

He says he's a Republican now.  I know that's a far cry from being a conservative, but goldbar's political ideology isn't something he'd lie about, is it?

LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

→ goldbar

Welcome aboard.  I know you wouldn't lie about something like this, because that would make you a liar.

I'm glad you've come to endorse conservative ideals.  It is a compliment to what we're trying to achieve here.  Glad also you are capable of receiving instruction.

I'm not keen on any ticket at this point.  Too early.

I'm hoping a more steadfast candidate than the two you mentioned arises within the next couple of years.

LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

I find this amusing. 

I find this amusing.  Though certainly meant as sarcasm, it is most certainly true.  The GOP need to reject the RINO's and return to Reagan principles.

All this unconstitutional and outright illegal activity Obama and the Congress are doing would infuriate a majority of the voters were they properly informed of it.  The Republicans need to do just that and explain why these policies are wrong.  Neither Arlen Specter nor Colin Powell was never going to do this, but Cheney and Limbaugh will. 

I think this is why the MSM spares no expense or opportunity to trash talk these two and Sarah Palin.  Further proff that the MSM is no more than a propaganda organ of the Democratic Party.

I say "right on" bretheren.

I say "right on" bretheren.  Let's return to the days when Reagan was taxing the rich at 50% rather than the measly 39% Obummer want's them to pay.

→ Yeah, let's

50% was the best Reagan could get from the Post-Carter Congress.  Of course it's all about the delivery, and you fail to mention the tax rate was dropped to 50%

LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

That's exactly what I'm

That's exactly what I'm talking about. Reagan LOWERED taxes and to that I say lower them once more to 50%.

→ I'm crushed

And here I thought you were serious.

LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

Why stop at 50%, goldbar? 

Why stop at 50%, goldbar?  Why not go for the full 100%?  After all, what do you care?  Since parasites like you don't pay taxes to begin with, you shouldn't mind at all.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill

gb... Always nice to see

gb...

Always nice to see ya' being the busy little bee you are when you land here just buzzing around everywhere...

All work.. no play...

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

uh... Bob?

 

Just because you can't see the forest, much less the trees, doesn't mean that everybody is blind to the obvious.

Have you had your tunnel vision looked at by a psyciatrist yet?

Perhaps your problem is improper potty training?

 

http://gjresult.com

 

Opportunist

How can Powell leap from supporting Reagan to supporting Obama? Powell is now embarrassed by his WMD performance at the UN. He will say and support whatever he has to to get back in the good graces of the MSM. Legacy building is his concern now.

Right on, Gary!!

This site is about exposing media bias.  And this template that the people want more goverment....that it is a foregone conclusion, is ridiculous and needs to be exposed at every turn.

The media is quick to use polling data to fit their narrative, but when the polls go against the narrative, they are conveniently forgotten or no longer newsworthy.  It sickens me to my core.

 

Contempt prior to investigation is ignorance.

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timothe: Have you seen any new Swine Flu statistics lately? Seems the panic is over. Go figure. To paraphrase your point, when the facts go against the narrative they are forgotten or no longer newsworthy.

Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand

Just caught Newt with Chris

Just caught Newt with Chris Wallace. It was all he could to do avoid laughing uproariously when Wallace asked him about Powell's comment that Americans want bigger government and taxes.

Despite his stearn demeanor, it's hard to think anything other than Powell has been drinking the wine from the Wedding Feast in Chicago.

Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand

Blonde

Prior to DADT gays did not serve "openly" in the military. They were not prancing around.

The military is NOT a social experiment!

Our marines are already being shot in the back by Iraq military police while on patrol. We don't need this crap A** president shooting at them too.

Headline.."US soldiers shoot and kill Iraqi 12 year old boy"

Reason? the bad guys are payng kids to throw grenades at our military and we have to explain why one 12 year old is dead.

Better the kid than one of our men.

I am sick to death of all of it. Now we have to explain why we don't want to shower with ...

Never mind

Cheney endorses Limbaugh

Excellent endorsement! Cheney, Gingrich, Palin, O'Reilly, Hannity, Limbaugh, Coulter, Kristol, the many Michaels (particularlly Levin and Savage), Nugent, Norris, North, Norquist, McConnell, Bohner, Cantor, Bachmann, Joe T. Plumber, and so many others must continue to speak out loudly and vociferously about the evils and incivilities posed by the communist marxist trotskyite socialist liberal limp-wristed drive-by Democrats. These patriots must seize every opportunity to reach out to the Gale and Sheila Muhs of the United States and bring them together as one political body to demonstrate that the GOP is very much alive and genuinely vital to the future of this nation.

Troll alert!

 

AS some of you are aware, The Muhs have been arrested and charged in the shooting of a seven year old boy who has subsequently died. They are expected to be charged with murder.

Wjneill, you are a contemptible excuse for a human being!

62 yrs old, retired NSA communication technician??????

Right, and I am really the Queen of Sheba.

And in the off chance you were a "communication technician" for the NSA, I am guessing either you sorted mail in the mailroom, or ran the switchboard.

-Or was it hanging "OUT OF ORDER" signs on the door handles of the restrooms?

-Dave

The statists aren't coming, they are already here.

Powell is a joke. He is

Powell is a joke. He is basically wanting the Republican party to comitte suicide. Anyone who voted for and supports Obama is a liberal period. Limbaugh wants the best for the Republican party. So why would anyone be agreeing with Powell unless they are a marxist liberals themselves? Powell got his Rino candidate and his elite friends in the media trashed him and the Republicans lost. So who wants another repeat? Not me. We need better candidates to go against Obama and one who advocate conservative principals not liberal ones.  Cheney is right on to support Limbaugh.

 

Mozilla... Nail on

Mozilla...

Nail on head!

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Cheney on Limbaugh

It is sad, Powell had such a great military career and to totally scrap his name by lying about what the Republicans were say about BO.  I really wonder if he has ever been a Republican or is he really that shallow that he would drag up lies and vote for someone only because of the color of his skin.

Before we have a government that can supply us with everything we will have a government that can provide us with nothing.

Muhs have been arrested and charged?

Muhs?

The drivel spouted by Wjneill above

The drivel spouted by Wjneill above referred to Gale and Sheila Muhs.

Google the names if you want to be sickened! 

I read..

maybe wjneill will join their defense team?

We'd gladly put these folks to death if found guilty and Wjneill would vote life or book deal!

IaT... I thought about

IaT...

I thought about it...nobody is going to make me angry or sickened tonight, had a great day...there is always tomorrow to look this up and be sickened...if I want to do so...which I know I an too curious not to inquire. 

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

I bet Schieffer had to pop

I bet Schieffer had to pop some nitroglycerine tablets when Cheney laid that one on him.

Too bad Cheney didn't say, "Oh, and Obama and the rest of his Liberal Fascist buddies can go to hell."

Schieffer would still be in an ICU.

One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).

I always knew Cheney was a standup guy...

and he, as he always does, stood up for the truth.  Reminds me of Ms. California.  Ask a question of either one of those two and you will get a truthful and honest answer.  PC and the Liberal Media be damned!  Jim Webster

Even when he was "standing

Even when he was "standing down" during Vietnam?

Jer

Los Angeles Times: Sleep Depravation too Harsh for Terrorist

One of former Vice President Dick Cheney's concerns, as well as my own, is President Obama's discontinuation of enhanced interrogation techniques, such as waterboarding and sleep deprivation. Leftist media, such as Wikipedia, call enhanced interrogation "techniques of torture."

The far left Los Angeles Times, in an online article titled Memos shed light on CIA use of sleep deprivation attempts to make the case that sleep deprivation results in "mental anguish" for the poor terrorist.

Mr. Cheney was dead-on when he said on Face the Nation: "I think to the extent that those [Bush-era] policies were responsible for saving lives, that the administration is now trying to cancel those policies … means in the future we're not going to have the same safeguards we've had for the last eight years."  

As for liberals such as Bob Schieffer, they have as much understanding about conservatives as they do for the impact their big-governement policies will have on our nation.

On second thought, liberals do understand that even terrorist deserve at least eight hours of restful, uninterrupted sleep every night. After all, if the roles were reversed, the terrorist would ensure that their prisoners slept uninterrupted for the rest of their life.

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"They are actively promoting the decline of America." ~ Rush Limbaugh on liberals and Democrats

RF... On second thought,

RF...

On second thought, liberals do understand that even terrorist deserve at least eight hours of restful, uninterrupted sleep every night. After all, if the roles were reversed, the terrorist would ensure that their prisoners slept uninterrupted for the rest of their life.

Yep....Amen and then some...

Says it all right there.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Hi bt

I'm going to call it a night. You have a good night, and sleep well. Actually, based on this study, we will get a better nights sleep than any liberal.

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“Understand something about liberalism.  They never stop until they get what they want, and when they get what they want, it's never enough.  That's why it's a constant thing to have to oppose them.  You can't join forces with them, you can't moderate them, you can't slow them down by joining them, you can't make them like you and have them change their agenda.  They have to be stopped.” ~ Rush Limbaugh

My God!

I hope he supports Rush over Powell.  This is a no brainer and Powell has turned into a political pimp.

 

When the people fear the government it's called tyranny, when the government fears the people it's called liberty!

At Least Cheneys' Honest-

And what does Colin Powell know, anyway. He’s the nominal “Republican” that endorsed Obama, then re-assured us all that he was “qualified to be Commander-in-Chief” the week before the Russians caught Obama completely asleep-at-the-wheel and nabbed the Krgyzstani air-base that we use to fly-in most of our supplies to Afghanistan.

I don’t trust Powell an inch, he apparently feels guilty about promoting the Iraq war (but shouldn’t) and is trying to make amends. Powell’s advice and a quarter will get you a cup of coffee at 7-11 (small).

 There'll be no hiding the damage Obama is doing to the county in a year or two. I love how these critics of the GOP assume everything will just work out great with trillion dollar deficits and a pacifist foreign policy- When their pork-n-welfare spending orgy fails to create any real economic gains -but stokes vicious inflation and crashes the dollar instead- the Democrats face a bloodbath in 2010.

And Barack can kiss 2012 goodbye, no matter how hard he attacks the GOP and has the MSM plant BS stories and manufactured "scandals". His foreign policy is headed straight for an iceberg, as well.

Ironically, Powell and W did a lot of damage to the GOP brand... but Obama-Pelosi-Reid will be the ones to fix it all-up for us- already as good as done. Funny how life is.

http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com 

Trust me.  You couldn't

Trust me.  You couldn't afford the taxes I pay.

Trust me, you don't pay

Trust me, you don't pay taxes.

You're some sort of leftoid so I'm sure you evade taxes like the rest of them Geithner, Daschle, Pelosi.

“I'm with you on a free press. It's the newspapers I can't stand.” Tom Stoppard, Night and Day, 1978

Of course we can't,

Of course we can't, sweetheart.  Now run along to your street corner and get back to work fueling the engine of capitalism through your "efforts".  After all, our country depends on the tax revenue you generate through your "labor".

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill

2004 debate was great

Cheney sat in that funny way of his, looking at Edwards almost sideways.  Prell Boy looked like a deer in the headlights.  Especially memorable was Cheney's line about meeting him for the first time, even though Cheney was at the Senate often - MSM was scrambling to find an event where the two met so they could call Cheny a liar.

Colin Vs Rush

Put me down on Rush's side....  At least he never sold out his followers...

Powell vs Rush

So Dick Cheney would prefer Rush Limbaugh as a Republican over Colin Powell. Which would he prefer just as an American or as a human being? The idea that Cheney would pick a high school educated radio talkshow host who has NEVER served his country in any formal capacity over an educated, highly decorated former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff who has served four presidents is breathtaking in its lunacy. If anything, Cheney should be working with Powell, trying to bring him back under the ever-shrinking tent of the GOP. Instead, he chooses to drive Powell (and the people who admire him) further away from the party with comments like these. It is this kind of ideologically-driven anti-think that is killing off the Republican Party. Limbaugh, who is one of the most disliked and polarizing figures in the country, is the very last person you'd want to embrace if you really wanted to strengthen your party. The longer the electorate perceives that Republicans are more concerned about preserving their ideology than the welfare of the public, the more that GOP tent is going to shrink. Dick Cheney's remarks have only confirmed that growing perception. Bob Schieffer was right to be "astounded". 

What do you not understand?

Powell defected, just as Arlen did.  Powell is a chameleon, his "beliefs" are merely those which are most advantageous for him at the moment.

He has absolutely no standing, at this point, to tell us, who are STILL members of the Republican party, what to do or how to think.  Come to think of it, neither do you, since you use "your party"....makes you a democrat, huh?

The only ideaologically driven thinking I see here is from your side of the aisle.  If I wanted to be a democrat, I would be one.

Why don't you concentrate on cheerleading for your Dear Leader instead of annoying us conservatives?

 

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

?????

"Republicans are more concerned about preserving their ideology than the welfare of the public..."

Republicans are more concerned about...... being Republicans -- ???

Sooooo, it's better that they alter their ideology to better reflect that of..... Democrats?? Which, of course, will part the storm clouds and benefit the welfare of the public? (that last bit is, you got it, sarcasm.)

I take it, Jr., you're um..... not a Republican? 

So, to recap, Cheney, a Republican, is favoring one person who is clearly championing Republican values and ideology over the other person who is clearly wavering -- demonstrated by his many actions/decisions and words -- and not at all committed to these values??

Lastly, why did you post this nonsense?

And yes, answer all of these questions, just so I can be sure that what you wrote is indeed as moronic as it reads.

 

You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!

 

Cheney is championing his

Cheney is championing his own personal brand of "Republican" values. This is one of the many problems with the GOP today. People are confusing genuine conservative values with the republicanism of individual politicians-- and talkshow hosts. As that continues to be the case, the appeal of the party will continue to narrow. If that's what you really want, go for it, dude. What I am is irrelevant. Don't try to make this about me and turn it into a name-calling schoolyard shoving match that Newsbusters is so famous for. Dick Cheney, like Rush Limbaugh, never served in the armed forces and, therefore, has none of sensibilities that a veteran like Powell has. Powell saw a Republican ticket in the last election which he felt did not represent the Republican Party as HE had defined it most of his life. Most Republicans didn't care that much for McCain, either, and Palin was a thinking person's nightmare. Because Powell chose to endorse Obama does not necessarily mean that he no longer holds conservative values. However, if you're an ideological creature who sees no shades of gray in the world, I can see where you'd want him out of your party. By all means, continue to throw out the most admired, intelligent and heroic in your party. It just seems to me that it would be a better idea to have someone like Colin Powell with you rather than against you. But that's just me.

Most Disliked?

 JRJ08,

Limbaugh, who is one of the most disliked and polarizing figures in the
country, is the very last person you'd want to embrace if you really
wanted to strengthen your party.

Okay, using "most disliked and polarizing" and pointing out "you" and "your party" shows your bias.  You should have said inthe beginning of your comment- "As a progressive liberal who hates Rush Limbaugh and everything he spews..."

That would have been more appropriate. Now continue with comments as a progressive liberal.  Which rock (liberal website) did you come crawling out of and why did you land here?

SideShow

Twenty-first century genetic engineering will not only eliminate the
siamese twins and the alligator-skin people, but you're gonna be
hard-pressed to find a slight overbite, or a not-so-high cheekbone.- X-Files' Dr.Blockhead

Is there even one person in

Is there even one person in this blog who doesn't have a bias? Do you think I "hate" Limbaugh because I'm a liberal?More importantly, do you think people have to be "liberal" to disagree with what Cheney has said about Powell? You're jumping to a lot of conclusions here about someone you've never met in your entire life. I don't care for Limbaugh because he makes his money inciting hatred and anger in people like you. It is unhelpful. 

Talking about hate and anger

 Is there even one person in this blog who doesn't have a bias?

You mean like you?

Do you think I "hate" Limbaugh because I'm a liberal?

Yes.

More importantly, do you think people have to be "liberal" to disagree with what Cheney has said about Powell?

I dont know of any conseretives that would, so yes.

 You're jumping to a lot of conclusions here about someone you've never met in your entire life.

This coming from an Obama voter?

  I don't care for Limbaugh because he makes his money inciting hatred and anger in people like you. It is unhelpful.

Remind me why you like Obama again? Was it because he sicked his lawyers on the opposition in Chicago? Maybe it was the way he threaten the banks that didnt loan to those he felt they should? Maybe it was the way he and his campain slimed Hillary, or the way he and his minuns did it to Palin? Could it be the way his appointment have skirted the law, or the way they milign the opposition? Could it be for his broken promises, or the way he says one thing and does another?

This guy has meeting's everyday with the media, in order to set up stratagy and to ridicule the opposition, but no way this should be considered hateful,,,,,right?

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

→ Jar-Jar

Of course we are biased.

We are all about exposing left-wing bias.  I hope that's not a surprise to you.

Do you really think a bunch of Liberals would be concerned with exposing their own hypocrisy?

LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

it is possible

to continue to admire someone for their accomplishments yet recognize they no longer belong to the Party you're associated with due to differences in ideology.  

Its not a high school clique for gosh sakes.

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Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past - George Orwell - 1984

Hmm.  Tough choice. 

Hmm.  Tough choice.  Articulate, entertaining conservative spokesman or shallow, self-important, economically illiterate, ideologically incoherent empty uniform.  Thanks for your advice.  Now piss off, troll.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill

Cheney, Limbaugh, and trivilization of the GOP

At this moment in the history of the GOP, it is very much like the skin eruption known as a boil. To excise a boil, it must be lanced and the core and pus forcibly removed. However, there is a conspicuously concerted and conscientious effort to protect the boil at any cost to allow the pus to continue to accumulate and the core to remain sequested intact. You're gonna get what you don't wanna pay for and when that sucker bursts, your decontamination will hopefully be privately funded since you sure won't wanna have anything to do with any government-funded decontamination.  Just think, all the pus you can drink and YOU helped cook it.  Just another example of how YOU made conservatism so popular.

Specter: gone.  Bloomberg:

Specter: gone.  Bloomberg: gone.  Powell: gone.  Snowe, Schwarzenegger, McCain, Graham, Collins: hopefully gone.  Seems like we're lancing our boils.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill

More like driving a lance

More like driving a lance through your own heart. Don't forget that in the last election, a truckload of highly respected conservatives jumped ship, including George Will, Peggy Noonan, Christopher Buckley, Susan Eisenhower, Ken Dubenstein, William Ruckleshaus, David Gergin, Scott McClellan, Ann Carlson, William Weld, Ken Adelman,... and the list goes on. My guess is that the Republican Party would have preferred to have all those folks on its side, rather than against it last November. That chunk of ice the Republican Party is clinging to is shrinking every day. Might be global warming. Might just be all the hot air blowing in from the right. Whatever. The point is it's still melting and, pretty soon, you're going to be left with a fragmented regional party that will never play a role in another national election. Is that what you proud Republicans really want? Do you actually want to get rid of all these people just so you can share the same ice cube with Sarah Palin? Boy. Positively suicidal. 

You lose all credibility

You lose all credibility when you claim that Peggy Noonan, William Weld, David Gergen and Kenneth Duberstein are conservatives...and when you suggest that Scott McClellan is "highly respected".  I'm interested to know, what the hell do you care?  You're a lib, what difference does it make to you what direction the Republican Party is taking?  It sounds to me like you're worried that if the Republican Party finally learns from its mistakes and flushes the RINO turds, your cesspool of a party will be in jeopardy over the next several election cycles.  You have reason to be worried.  Your party and its "leadership" is a stupid joke whose policies are so abject that not even its partners-in-crime in the media are going to be able to cover up its failures.  At that point, a reenergized conservative Republican Party will be in position to capitalize by presenting a distinct alternative to the corrupt, incompetent Democrat White House and Congress...rather than some lame Democrat-lite.  That scares you, and it should.  Tell you what, rather than lecturing Republicans on how we should organize our party operations, sort out your own mess.  We'll be just fine.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill

fitz... Hear, Hear! I

fitz...

Hear, Hear!

I remember my back and forth with the troll above numerous times.

You summed it up for me.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Cheney on Powell vs. Limbaugh: 'I'd Go with Rush Limbaugh'

Sorry, I
wouldn’t care if he were Audie Murphy, John Basilone, and Alvin York all in
one:  Colin Powell is a bit too slippery for
me in the political milieu. Out of uniform today, he smacks of the
quintessential political opportunist.

 “Americans
do want to pay taxes for services," he said. "Americans are looking
for more government in their life, not less . . .”

 Really?  Want
to?  Which Americans, specifically, want
to pay more taxes?  And which,
specifically, seek more government (read: more government entitlements) in
their life?

 In light of
the untold economic burdens unabashed Socialist Barack Obama has placed on
us and on our posterity, Powell’s comment is as outrageous as it is instructive.
Republicans should send him packing, suggest he officially join the Democrat
party, and let him fulfill the political epiphany he apparently underwent by
endorsing Barack Obama—something we sensed early on in the good general’s hip-hop
dancing alongside popular rap stars at the “Africa Rising” festival in London.

Give me liberty . . . and Limbaugh’s highly cogent political commentary and ideas any day.