How many times can you use the discrediting term “extremely,” suggesting extremist positions, in a single sentence describing the state of the Republican Party? Three, if you're writing Time magazine's cover story. Michael Grunwald contended “the party's ideas -- about economic issues, social issues and just about everything else -- are not popular ideas.”
He then asserted in the article for the May 18 edition of the magazine:
They are extremely conservative ideas tarred by association with the extremely unpopular George W. Bush, who helped downsize the party to its extremely conservative base.
Grunwald proceeded to characterize the GOP's agenda as a “hard right” one which pleases Rush Limbaugh but not a majority of people, arguing: “A hard-right agenda of slashing taxes for the investor class, protecting marriage from gays, blocking universal health insurance and extolling the glories of waterboarding produces terrific ratings for Rush Limbaugh, but it's not a majority agenda.”
An excerpt from “Republicans in Distress: Is the Party Over?”, which is part of the magazine's “Endangered Species” cover story package:
....Republicans actually have plenty of ideas.
That's the problem. The party's ideas — about economic issues, social issues and just about everything else — are not popular ideas. They are extremely
conservative ideas tarred by association with the extremely unpopular George W. Bush, who helped downsize the party to its extremely conservative base. A hard-right agenda of slashing taxes for the investor class, protecting marriage from gays, blocking universal health insurance and extolling the glories of waterboarding produces terrific ratings for Rush Limbaugh, but it's not a majority agenda. The party's new, Hooverish focus on austerity on the brink of another depression does not seem to fit the national mood, and it's shamelessly hypocritical, given the party's recent history of massive deficit spending on pork, war and prescription drugs in good times, not to mention its continuing support for deficit-exploding tax cuts in bad times...
—Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center





conservative ideas tarred by association with the extremely unpopular George W. Bush, who helped downsize the party to its extremely conservative base. A hard-right agenda of slashing taxes for the investor class, protecting marriage from gays, blocking universal health insurance and extolling the glories of waterboarding produces terrific ratings for Rush Limbaugh, but it's not a majority agenda. The party's new, Hooverish focus on austerity on the brink of another depression does not seem to fit the national mood, and it's shamelessly hypocritical, given the party's recent history of massive deficit spending on pork, war and prescription drugs in good times, not to mention its continuing support for deficit-exploding tax cuts in bad times...














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Time Magazine.... well, thats about it for the MSM mags...
May 9, 2009 - 14:36 ET by pahuberNo more reporting, just opinion.
officially an EXTREMEly
May 10, 2009 - 16:54 ET by TruthMongerofficially an EXTREMEly endangered species...
lying and slandering to the brink of extinction:(
government is the communists capitalism
Say what....?
May 9, 2009 - 14:51 ET by supercon"The party's new, Hooverish focus on austerity on the brink of another
depression does not seem to fit the national mood, and it's shamelessly
hypocritical, given the party's recent history of massive deficit
spending on pork, war and prescription drugs in good times, not to
mention its continuing support for deficit-exploding tax cuts in bad
times..."
Who is guilty of massive deficit spending again....?
What planet does this guy live on?Maybe he forgot about the almost four trillion dollar spending spree that Barack just went on or the fact that maybe he intends to nationalize the healthcare industry.
Barack Obama makes George Bush look like a penny pincher.
Hey Janet Napolitano...I'm proud to be a Right-winger.
Just being a Republican
May 9, 2009 - 14:54 ET by ahussernow is an extremist political position compared to the "compassionate" "Centrists", "Moderates" and "Progressives" now in power. This crud is right out of the Lefty playbook. More smearing, and marginalising Republicans in general and Conservatives in particular. Just the usual agenda but now from a position of strength with aims to destroy the opposition. I see no other reason for these divisive, demeaning attacks other than agitprop from these mags (and other media) which are thinly disguised organs of the democratic party.
"Somehow, I told you so, just doesn't quite say it." Will Smith in 'I, Robot.'
ahusser... Yep...and they
May 9, 2009 - 15:14 ET by bigtimerahusser...
Yep...and they want the big-wig politicos in the 'R' party to follow their strategy as they cower before the msm.
I am so sick of this all from the msm of all venues.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Time Magazine is an "endangered species" to be sure.
May 9, 2009 - 15:15 ET by CrashI think the same could be said for the democrat party, which looks more and more like the communist party with each dotty policy railed through by Obama & Company. And it's taken less than 100 days for the rule of law to be sold to the highest bidder!
LOL-The GOP is not even
May 9, 2009 - 15:31 ET by R D HelmLOL-The GOP is not even conserative, much less "extremely" so.
Pretty soon, these twits will have "moderate" conservatism defined down to what socialism is today.
That will make room for the "centrist" dims to occupy full-blown communism.
-Dave
The statists aren't coming, they are already here.
Bingo! Doubling down on
May 9, 2009 - 15:43 ET by bigtimerBingo!
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Kinda like labeling Fox news as 'extreme'
May 9, 2009 - 16:03 ET by ahusserright wing. As the dems move left the Repubs are looking 'extreme' to them and we haven't really moved anywhere. These attacks are just retaliation and vindictiveness from the 'compassionate' party. If you've noticed they haven't let up since the election. The dems are the masters of divisive politics. I guess 'divide and conquer' is their motto. The problem is these attacks are very hard to defend against as they own the media and the organs of propaganda. That is why Fox news has to be constantly labeled as 'right-winged'. Wouldn't want any real news to get out.
"Somehow, I told you so, just doesn't quite say it." Will Smith in 'I, Robot.'
And I'm sure everyone has
May 9, 2009 - 16:15 ET by motherbeltAnd I'm sure everyone has noticed that there is no "hard left" as opposed to "hard right." There is no "extreme left wing." There are only "normal people" also called "centrists" or "moderates" and the "extreme right wing." Just like Obama, the MOST liberal in Senator in the body, has now become Obama the "centrist" President, and everything he does is now "pragmatic." The new word catchword.
They might say "Wow, that sucks!" But at least they'll say "Wow!" -Duff Goldman, the Ace of Cakes
the GOP and its damaged brand
May 9, 2009 - 15:55 ET by katainkentthese journalists could try and explain the truth of the matter but no - they'd rather further the lie.
Hold on ‘cause the world will turn if you're ready or not ~ KT Tunstall
RINO'S are the damaged
May 10, 2009 - 22:39 ET by TruthMongerRINO'S are the damaged "brand" these days:)
the truth has a way of kicking the left in the ass - sooner or later
government is the communists capitalism
Time Defines the GOP?
May 9, 2009 - 16:00 ET by DoktorFrankenThe Left's Alinsky-like attacks on Conservatives are truly relentless. And, for the most casual intelligent observer, totally transparent. The problem with these types of attacks is that they only make an impression on the already Ignorant Masses. The smart people know better and see the fools for what they are.
Let them keep flinging
May 9, 2009 - 16:01 ET by jarand550Let them keep flinging around the word "extreme" and eventually the word will lose its meaning. If everything is extreme then nothing is extreme.
What was the point of this article? Why publish it?
May 9, 2009 - 16:03 ET by KC MulvilleIt certainly isn't a report. It added no new information, nor did it intend to. It was simply a survey of the liberal perspective, as told by an vindictive liberal reporter, and published by an increasingly vindictive liberal news organization. And you can hardly call it analysis, because it simply throws insults after insult, without the slightest attempt at explanation.
Here's what I just don't get: what conservative ideas have been discredited? (Note: the Republican politicians may have been exposed as clowns, but there is a distinction between the ideas and the politicians who use those ideas to get elected.) After all ...
So here's my problem: what does the financial disaster have to do with Republican ideas about tax cuts? How does what happened "disprove" the validity of limiting spending? Neither of those ideas have been discredited, as the Obama Spin Machine insists.
Here's the basic conservative idea: Government is a hammer, but not every problem is a nail.
That will never be discredited, because it is always true.
KC I agree (very good blog): How about failed
May 9, 2009 - 16:16 ET by ahusserdem policies which caused the financial mess in the first place. Namely Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac where Finance meets social engineering. A mostly dem fiasco (easily and conveniently blamed on Bush).
Now the bailout of GM is just money thrown out the window as they will go into bankruptcy anyway. Probably where it belonged. It is rather ironic that FIAT (I heard) is going to either buy or be a major stockholder in Chrysler. Saturn is going to be spun off to other investors. (I heard Pennzoil). With my tinfoil hat firmly in place I believe the financial panic last fall was orchestrated to get Obama elected. I have my suspicions about gas prices too. All these forces coming together in a financial perfect storm was too coincidental in my mind. In any event no Dem policy fiascos will ever be scrutinised by the press (no longer free).
"Somehow, I told you so, just doesn't quite say it." Will Smith in 'I, Robot.'
Thanks, ahusser
May 9, 2009 - 16:20 ET by KC MulvilleRemember the good old days when the criticism of the GOP was entirely about the war?
KC, this is just like their
May 9, 2009 - 16:37 ET by motherbeltKC, this is just like their repeated reports on the how the Pope is stubborn about celibacy, or how some Catholics disagree with her teaching on marriage or abortion: it's just an excuse to rehash their venom and get it all out there again (in case someone missed it the last dozen times, or forgot).
They might say "Wow, that sucks!" But at least they'll say "Wow!" -Duff Goldman, the Ace of Cakes
Like pushing a button
May 9, 2009 - 22:00 ET by KC MulvilleCome to think of it, we're all kind of boring, aren't we? Mention Bush, and most people respond on cue. Same for Obama. Both sides. It's all so predictable.
What we need, I think, is a political Don Rickles. Just to break the media monotony. Because this current crop is way past boredom.
Couldn't agree more
May 9, 2009 - 22:09 ET by bigtimerCouldn't agree more KC...
...and speaking of Rickles...Dom Delouise (sp) just passed, he was in that era.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
The MSM is struggling
May 9, 2009 - 16:08 ET by MidAmericaThe MSM is struggling to find some relevant villains since the departure of George Bush. The liberal agenda is not something that can be sold on it's own merits. That is, it's hard to convince people that higher taxes and more intrusion by the government in their personal lives is a good thing.
Obama was elected because he wasn't George Bush or a Republican. The only way obama can be re-elected is if the media can pull the same scam a second time around. So continuing negative stories about anything on the political right will continue indefinitely.
Who in the "F" reads Time magazine?
May 9, 2009 - 17:12 ET by JetmoreDoes anyone actually read Time anymore? All of these pseudo-news : Time, Newsweek, MSNBC, are all going the way of the dinosaur. It seems that you can fool some of the people some of the time but not all of the people all of the time.
Time or Newsweek
May 9, 2009 - 17:15 ET by Kingfish17The only time I actually see these political yellow sheets are when I visit my doctor or dentist. My guess is that they have no clue what they are supporting with regards to their subscriptions.
Next time I go for a cleaning or check up I'm going to make it a point to ask them why they are supporting a magazine that is lobbying for the demise of their profession.
Million + subcribers.
May 9, 2009 - 18:16 ET by Red JeepDoctors and dentist offices could add up to over a million subscribers a year.
less expensive than a coaster.
May 9, 2009 - 18:17 ET by katainkentsaves their tables from those nasty water rings.
Hold on ‘cause the world will turn if you're ready or not ~ KT Tunstall
Similar to USA Today. One
May 9, 2009 - 21:33 ET by GregESimilar to USA Today. One of the top newspapers (if not THE top) in number of subscribers. It's not due to individual subscriber demand. It's due to every hotel giving them to every room every day.
Gosh
May 9, 2009 - 17:36 ET by serfer62I just love it when the Kommiecrats help the GOP...
Getting
May 9, 2009 - 18:12 ET by nolotrippenGetting advice from the MSM about how to save a political party they despise is like getting advice from the Devil on how to follow Jesus.
As Obama said to the Brits: Thanks, but no thanks.
The only people who believe
May 9, 2009 - 20:14 ET by ConservativeRexThe only people who believe anything in TIME magazine all live on an island. Anyone who works for a living doesn't give a crap with what TIME comes up with, and they haven't in years.
These folks write for a very small audience. They can not even define what a Conservative is and be truthful about it. Mostly, these folks are meaner than a cut snake.
We'll see how extremely
May 9, 2009 - 20:45 ET by KevpotWe'll see how extremely unpopular their views are in 2010.
I think there will be much weeping and gnashing of teeth amongst our libtard friends.
The problem with the
May 9, 2009 - 21:00 ET by fitzfongThe problem with the economy is down to one thing, and one thing only: IRRESPONSIBLE, RECKLESS GOVERNMENT SPENDING. In prosperous years, the commies in the Congress and the State Legislatures SPENT the extra revenues generated by TAX RATE CUTS, and projected even greater revenues based on wildly optimistic estimates of further growth...and they committed to spending the projected revenues. When the recession hit and revenues were far less than projected, the obligations government had already attached to the taxpayer were greater than the revenue generated to the Treasury. These scumbags in the legislatures and their rubber stamp morons in the executive branch got greedy and, rather than saving the surplus revenues for a rainy day, they spent as if a rainy day would never come...now they're scrambling to meet these unsustainable obligations and build a rainy day fund by raising income tax rates? Their economic ignorance is staggering. You don't grow an economy by growing government, you grow an economy by shrinking government and encouraging those intelligent enough to stay the hell out of government to use their superior intellects and work ethics to meet consumer demand and, in turn, create jobs, create more taxpayers, eliminate need for government "services" and generate more revenues to the Treasury. The reason that TIME Magazine is in the irreversable crapper is because it continues to run breathtakingly ignorant opinion pieces by hubristic, know-nothing parasites like Michael Grunwald and expects that people with discretionary income are still stupid enough to buy it.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
"...produces terrific
May 9, 2009 - 22:00 ET by MrSnuggles"...produces terrific ratings for Rush Limbaugh, but it's not a majority agenda."
I find this quite ironic, considering that leftist propoganda produces ZERO RATINGS, yet they seem to think they have a monopoly on a majority agenda.
Good point
May 10, 2009 - 01:02 ET by KC MulvilleEvery poll says that Obama is hugely popular as a person, but no one is willing to follow him. When the pollsters ask the public questions, the public responds in the ways that the pollsters expect. Yet, the public increasingly turns away from the mainstream media.
I think the smart perspective is to admit we're all waiting to see how this actually works out. Everyone's hanging back. Which means two things:
Circumventing the media filters
May 9, 2009 - 22:35 ET by nkviking75That the media relentlessly portrays Republicanism in such simplistic and inaccurate ways as:
A hard-right agenda of slashing taxes for the investor class, protecting marriage from gays, blocking universal health insurance and extolling the glories of waterboarding...
...is a major reason why these ideas are not more widely accepted. A huge chunk of the public doesn't understand that the tax burden is largely bourne by the rich while the bottom 50% pays almost nothing; that conservatives oppose creating a new right for gays rather than denying them their rights; that conservatives want to block government from controlling health care, leading to delays and/or denials of service to many; that conservatives strive to draw the line short of torture, but are willing to go beyond the coddling libs insist upon.
If conservatives could find a way to circumvent the media filter and forcefully make their case to the American people, the appeal of conservatism would rise exponentially.
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
Conservative values and
May 10, 2009 - 01:26 ET by robert108Conservative values and principles are the principles of America, and are therefore, nothing resembling "extreme". This is just agendized propaganda from far left extremist propagandists.
I'll steal a line from the Direct TV commercial
May 10, 2009 - 02:56 ET by gmaniac1Time wouldn't know the GOP, much less a conservative, if it sat down in their lap and called them momma. The only thing that is past it's time is Time.
When the people fear the government it's called tyranny, when the government fears the people it's called liberty!
It is too bad that the left can't do science
May 10, 2009 - 04:54 ET by TheHistorianGeorge Will has an interesting column today (http://townhall.com/...) which is similar in thought to this.
I find it interesting that the "left" has been the side on which we have had pseudo-sciences such as eugenics (http://hnn.us/articl...), the food theories of Lysenko (http://www.physics.s...), Keynesian economics (http://www.amatecon.... which is enjoying a rebirth among the pseudo intelligentsia) and now "global climate change" (http://www.crichton-...). In the case of the first three, these so-called scientific arguments have resulted in mass deaths and ruined economies. In the case of the fourth, it has the potential to dwarf the damage of the other three.
The point of fact is that we should be VERY afraid when the word "scientist" gets applied to a political hack of the left and when the left picks on theories, everybody should look at them at least twice as there may actually be a lot of good in what they label as "crackpot". Remember, the "big bang" was a derided theory, and that the "big bang" was a pejorative term coined to deride the theory (http://archive.ncsa....).
"What experience and history teach is
this - that people and governments never have learned anything from history,
or acted on principles deduced from it."
G. W. F. Hegel
Excellent post, Historian
May 10, 2009 - 12:58 ET by KC MulvilleThe word "scientist" is used to give the opinion a little extra authority, as if the speaker/writer is saying: this is not my amateur opinion, it's the professional opinion of people you should obey.
There is a good reason why "argument by authority" is a logical fallacy. In a debate, playing the authority card usually means that the debater wants the audience to accept what he's saying and not question it. One wonders, therefore, why he doesn't want it questioned.
Oh, come on, Time
May 10, 2009 - 07:55 ET by Vivaldi5Look, Time magazine: why did you feel the need to put the name Michael Grunwald on this piece when we know it has all the same stylistic qualities (to use that term very loosely) as the scribbings of Meghan McCain?
So come on, give credit where credit is due! (And P.S., Meghan professes to be "a woman who despises labels and boxes and stereotypes." So there couldn't possibly be anything wrong with calling conservatives "extreme" 59 times or so, right?)
Yeah, right. Bush slimmed
May 10, 2009 - 08:04 ET by freecitizenYeah, right. Bush slimmed the party down so much that he lost how many elections exactly? They like to pretend that Obama beat Bush and not some weak-kneed moderate squish.
Besides, conservatives liked Bush's foreign policy but were dismayed on a near daily basis about his domestic policies.
compassionate conservative = establishment republican
Liberal: remove all that's Right, and this is what's Left.
Bible Thumpers Vote Republican
May 10, 2009 - 08:33 ET by melpolMost voters are not interested in voting for God as they go to the polls. They are only interested in a candidate that will help secure their jobs. The Republican party and its conservative base has picked up the label as the party of God. But Democrats would rather keep God in the sky not in the working place. Unless the Republican Party gets down to Earth and starts using common sense they will only get the votes of the bible thumpers.
http://www.associate...
ah the fine art of parody
May 10, 2009 - 08:54 ET by botgfor a second i thought you were cereal, but i get ya, you're just making fun of stupid things libs say.....
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts
When Did They Change The Name?
May 10, 2009 - 09:08 ET by JustAlWhen did Obama Magazine change it's name to Time??????
Time Magazine's Other Man of the Year
May 10, 2009 - 11:01 ET by gordonGermans really loved Hitler after 1932, film stars couldn't wait to be seen with him, and the German economy was on the rebound. In 1938, Time Magazine named him "Man of the Year". Hitler created public works projects and put the people to work for the State. He passed bills freezing prices because of the threat of inflation. After that, the NAZI government expanded it's role in directing the economy and reducing the role played by market forces. Although private property was not nationalized, it's use was more and more determined by the government rather than by the owners. Does any of this sound remotely familiar?
Mussolini Too
May 10, 2009 - 11:51 ET by slickwillie2001President Roosevelt and many in his administration expressed open admiration for Benito Mussolini. Our own early 20th Century progressive movements were very close to European fascism. All inconvenient facts long since purged from our history books.
Time Magazine has had Obama
May 10, 2009 - 13:23 ET by RogerCfromSDTime Magazine has had Obama on its covers how many times in the past two years?
Talk about extreme.
A nation cannot be free without a free, unbiased media. We are not free.
or lobbying for gay
May 10, 2009 - 16:51 ET by TruthMongeror lobbying for gay marriage - what's the word for extremely-more-than-extremely-more-than-extreme?
government is the communists capitalism
depends on one's perspective
May 10, 2009 - 16:44 ET by konoOf course, everything looks tilted toward the right when you're lying on your left.
And Time's been lying for the Left for a long, long time.
if we're extreme right then
May 10, 2009 - 16:49 ET by TruthMongerif we're extreme right then JFK is now officially extreme right...
government is the communists capitalism
TM... Hehehee...good point
May 10, 2009 - 16:53 ET by bigtimerTM...
Hehehee...good point there.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
sometimes i get lucky
May 10, 2009 - 17:01 ET by TruthMongersometimes i get lucky bt:)
government is the communists capitalism
...
May 10, 2009 - 16:54 ET by konoNotice how many in the dominant media try to portray Hugo Chavez as a centrist and Arlen Specter as a mainstream Conservative? Practically the whole press sees the world through Marx-colored glasses...
hey, don't blame Time
May 10, 2009 - 19:02 ET by lotrThey are just using the official language of the DHS.
But seriously, folks. This is a disturbing case of extreme sensationalism and pop-liberal bias.
"Let's wrap him up, alright?" -- Keith Olbermann
Funny 54-60 percent of
May 10, 2009 - 20:59 ET by eaglewingz08Funny 54-60 percent of Americans are against gay marriage and fifty percent or so support waterboarding terrorists. Sounds like a winning strategy to support those two policies and if Obama releases enemy combatants into the USA and they commit heinous crimes, one can foresee democrap majorities dwindling very quickly and even the Obama Presidency endangered. As for universal health coverage, this isn't majority endorsed yet, and depending on how the issue is framed there is a vast middle that would not like the gov't to run health care the way they ran Fannie and Freddie Mae or the DMV.
Time Mag
May 10, 2009 - 20:58 ET by brain trustIt is probably Time magazine that is an endangered species, I wonder what their circulation numbers are these days. I haven't picked up a copy to read in years. Liberal rag!
Before we have a government that can supply us with everything we will have a government that can provide us with nothing.