Couric Presses Holder from Left on Guns and Probing Bush Crimes

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After pounding away at Attorney General Eric Holder over enacting more gun control, as Katie Couric fretted that “Democrats on Capitol Hill are getting increasingly chummy with the NRA,” Couric raised “the issue of the treatment of some of the detainees” at Guantanamo and prompted Holder to denounce former Vice President Dick Cheney.

In the taped interview aired on Wednesday's CBS Evening News, Couric cited “alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. It's been reported that he was water-boarded. You have come out publicly and said water-boarding is torture. So how would that stand up in civilian court?” She also highlighted how “Holder addressed recent criticism” by Cheney, “who said the Obama administration was making choices that will raise the risk of another terrorist attack.” Couric pressed: “Are you implicitly saying that Dick Cheney was inappropriate and off base?”

Couric was most-obsessed with guns, hitting Holder repeatedly from the left:

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- “What about reinstating the assault weapons ban and closing the gun show loophole? Do you think that would stop the flow of weapons into Mexico from the U.S.?” 

“While the Attorney General said he supported reinstating the assault weapons ban during his confirmation hearing, he's been silent on the subject since.” Couric became conspiratorial: “Did someone tell you to back off?”

- “It's been reported that Democrats on Capitol Hill are getting increasingly chummy with the NRA and receiving more campaign contributions from that organization than in previous years, and nobody wants to get the NRA riled up...”

- “What about gun shows? In over 30 states, people can simply walk into gun shows and buy a gun, sometimes from unlicensed dealers, without a background check. Would you support closing the gun show loophole?”

CBSNews.com video and transcript of the entire interview, including questions about the Stevens trial which aired on Tuesday's CBS Evening News, as well as portions that didn't air either night.

Two of Couric's queries from the left which didn't make it onto the newscasts:

- Senator Patrick Lahey has suggested a special commission to investigate whether federal crimes were committed when it comes to things like water-boarding. Do you think that's a good idea?

- The state secrets doctrine, developed by Bush administration allows the executive branch to refuse to disclose certain things in court because it could threaten national security. During a recent case in San Francisco involving five people who were part of the Bush administration's extraordinary rendition program, the Obama administration, as you know, used the same argument. Which came as a surprise, frankly, to the judge. Meanwhile, the head of the ACLU said, quote, “Candidate Obama ran on a platform that would reform the abuse of state secrets. But his Justice Department has disappointedly reneged on that important civil liberties issue.” Why?

Couric's tease: “Also tonight, a CBS News exclusive. The Attorney General on the Mexican drug war, closing the gun show loophole, and attacks by the former Vice President. Are you implicitly saying that Dick Cheney was inappropriate and off base?”

The interview excerpts, as aired on the Wednesday, April 8 CBS Evening News, with the closed-captioning corrected against the video by the MRC's Brad Wilmouth:

COURIC: Attorney General Eric Holder had a warning today for federal prosecutors in the wake of the Ted Stevens case. He said their job is not to convict people or to win cases but to do justice. Holder is trying to clean up the tarnished image of the Justice Department he inherited. And in a wide-ranging and exclusive interview, I asked this country's chief law enforcement officer about the many challenges he faces.

He may be the first African-American Attorney General, but he's no stranger to the Justice Department. His first job out of Columbia Law School was in the public integrity division as a trial lawyer, and he later became deputy attorney general during the Clinton administration. He left government in 2001 to go into private practice before being tapped for the top job this past January. The 58-year-old father of three is married to a Washington OBGYN and has been a close friend of the President's since Barack Obama was elected to the Senate, sharing a love of the law and basketball. He recently returned from Mexico where violence between a handful of warring drug cartels fighting over control and supply routes is increasingly threatening this country. So far, 230 U.S. cities have been infiltrated by Mexican drug gangs. Following his visit, he pledged greater U.S. cooperation with Mexican authorities.

COURIC TO HOLDER: How concerned are you, Attorney General Holder, about corruption within the ranks of law enforcement in Mexico?

HOLDER: Oh, that's clearly a problem, and the Attorney General of Mexico will tell you that. When you have that amount of money that's flowing through any country, it has an impact or has a potential to have an impact on society generally, and law enforcement is no different.

COURIC: But that does make cooperation pretty challenging.

HOLDER: Well, it makes it challenging but not impossible, and we've come up with ways in which we are able to share intelligence with those who are with us in these battles against these narco-traffickers.

COURIC: What about reinstating the assault weapons ban and closing the gun show loophole? Do you think that would stop the flow of weapons into Mexico from the U.S.?

HOLDER: Well, I think the thing that we need to do is come up with those things that we can do right away. And we're going to be moving 100 ATF agents to the border, about 26 DEA agents to the border, and that will happen over the course of the next 30 days or so. And I think that will have a pretty dramatic impact on reducing the flow of weapons into Mexico.

COURIC: But another major issue is guns being purchased and used in this country given a recent series of mass shootings – from southern Alabama to upstate New York – have killed 57 people. While the Attorney General said he supported reinstating the assault weapons ban during his confirmation hearing, he's been silent on the subject since.

COURIC TO HOLDER: Did someone tell you to back off?

HOLDER: No. No one's told me to back off. I understand the Second Amendment, I respect the Second Amendment. I think we need to use common sense tools to keep the American people safe.

COURIC: It's been reported that Democrats on Capitol Hill are getting increasingly chummy with the NRA and receiving more campaign contributions from that organization than in previous years, and nobody wants to get the NRA riled up. So has this become political at all?

HOLDER: No, I don't think it has. In fact, I look forward to working with the NRA to come up with ways in which we can use common sense approaches to reduce the level of violence that we see in our streets and make the American people as safe as they possibly can be.

COURIC: What about gun shows? In over 30 states, people can simply walk into gun shows and buy a gun, sometimes from unlicensed dealers, without a background check. Would you support closing the gun show loophole?

HOLDER: Well, again, these are issues that we'll have to discuss. The President will be the one who will ultimately set policy, things that are politically salable and things that will ultimately be affected.

COURIC: Does closing the gun show loophole fall into those categories?

HOLDER: That will be one of the things I'll talk about with the President.

COURIC: Another thorny issue on the AG's plate, where to put the approximately 250 detainees currently being held in Guantanamo. Among them, five who have been charged as co-conspirators in planning 9/11.

COURIC TO HOLDER: Is there any chance that some of the high-value detainees -- I believe there are 14 of them currently in custody -- will be transferred to U.S. prisons?

HOLDER: It's hard to say. At this point, we are, again, making these individualized determinations, and it's not clear where any of the detainees will ultimately end up. But what we will make sure we do is that the American people will be safe with regard to whatever decisions that we make.

COURIC: Many of the cases are complicated by the fact they involve classified information that could compromise national security if discussed in open court. Despite that, for the first time, Holder said Article III or federal courts will likely handle a number of high-profile, politically sensitive trials.

HOLDER: We will bring, I think, a substantial number of those people who we decide to charge in Article III courts. Others might be taken to military courts, others perhaps to these military tribunals with some enhanced measures.

COURIC: There is also the issue of the treatment of some of the detainees. For example, alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. It's been reported that he was water-boarded. You have come out publicly and said water-boarding is torture. So how would that stand up in civilian court?

HOLDER: Well, that's one of the issues that we have to deal with, to try to figure out exactly what we can do with detainees who have been subjected to these enhanced interrogation techniques and whether that poses a problem in bringing tryable cases.

COURIC: Attorney General Holder also addressed recent criticism by former Vice President Cheney, who said the Obama administration was making choices that will raise the risk of another terrorist attack.

HOLDER: Well, I think that's totally false. It's inconsistent with the facts. If you look at what the President is doing, what this administration is doing in Afghanistan, what we're doing with regard to Guantanamo, I think the former Vice President's remarks are way off the mark.

COURIC: What do you think of him making those remarks to begin with?

HOLDER: Well, I would just say that I respect former President Bush and former Secretary of State Rice who indicated that for at least some period of time, a period of silence and letting this administration try to determine what steps it's going to take is appropriate.

COURIC: Are you implicitly saying that Dick Cheney was inappropriate and off base making those comments?

HOLDER: I'll let other people decide that.

COURIC: Since Holder and the President are such good friends, I asked the Attorney General how he'll maintain his independence. He told me he's a hard-headed lawyer, and he expects to clash with the President at times. But, Holder said, the President understands how important it is for the Justice Department to operate without White House interference.

—Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center


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→ No Katie

Get your ears checked.

I did not tell him to back off.


LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

One more loophole

The corner drug dealer will also sell you a gun with no background check.

Or you can get someone to bring you one from the Mexican stash that the drug dealers get from south America.

Gee, 126 more agents going

Gee, 126 more agents going to the border? That's one additional agent every 15.5 miles if we spread 'em out good. 

Yeah, that should "have a pretty dramatic effect", especially if they're told "Listen guys, although you are armed, remember don't actually shoot at anyone in any situation, or of course we'll prosecute you."

"...look at what the

"...look at what the President is doing...in Afghanistan, what we're doing with regard to Guantanamo..."

Here are a few questions you could have asked, Mz. Cheerleader:

When the president said he wanted Iraq to be a stable democracy so American troops can leave, how does that differ from what Bush said for 6 years?

How is promising to let enemy combatants out of Guantanamo, and even refusing to call them enemy combatants, not "raise the risk of another terrorist attack"?

What specific policies and actions, what are the facts that you can point to that would demonstrate to the American people that Cheney's statement is "way off the mark"?

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I guess we can't expect Katie Kaboom to ask questions that don't prop up the Demoncrats and rip on the Republicans.... 

"Journalism is dead" - Rush Limbaugh

Why do you think....

Former VP Cheney is inappropriate for making comments? Carter, Gore, Clintons, et. al are still making critiques of GWB. I don't hear you whining about them????

"Are you implicitly saying that Dick Cheney was inappropriate and off base making those comments?"  

"Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but the democrats believe every day is April 15." Ronald Reagan

Funny how KKKatie says the

Funny how KKKatie says the A.G. Eric Hooder and the Messiah share a love of the law and basketball. All except that dirty 2nd amendment law

I thought they won...

They must be scared of something...something is spooking them for some reason...they've been very hysterical lately.

2010: A GOP Hill

Obviously Katie, Holder can't hold his independence

 Couric: .. Since Holder and the President are such good friends, I asked the Attorney General how he'll maintain his independence.

Obviously Katie, Holder can't maintain his independence.

Consider Holder's view of captured suspected terrorists:

CNN, January 2002 (my bold):

One of the things we clearly want to do with these prisoners is to have an ability to interrogate them and find out what their future plans might be, where other cells are located; under the Geneva Convention that you are really limited in the amount of information that you can elicit from people.

It seems to me that given the way in which they have conducted themselves, however, that they are not, in fact, people entitled to the protection of the Geneva Convention. They are not prisoners of war. If, for instance, Mohamed Atta had survived the attack on the World Trade Center, would we now be calling him a prisoner of war? I think not. Should Zacarias Moussaoui be called a prisoner of war? Again, I think not. 

Difficult to imagine that back in 2002, Holder was very challenged by using water-boarding on the terrorists, in order to find out what we needed to know to protect the country.

Note: And from a media bias issue here; how in the world did the national mainstream media manage to keep that view from the airwaves and from the front page of the nations newspapers?

(;~/ gary

Indeed, Holder is no stranger to "south of the border.."

Couric: He recently returned from Mexico where violence between a handful of warring drug cartels fighting over control and supply routes is increasingly threatening this country.

Katie, if you're so familiar with Holder's experience, how come we didn't see him grilled on CBS's nightly news, or on 60 minutes about his legal work on issues, which you folks would have torn a conservative apart over, such as:

Holder went to bat in defending the board of Chiquita Brands International.” Colombia’s attorney general said Tuesday that his office would try to seek the extradition of eight executives from Chiquita Brands International: the Ohio banana company that last week admitted to paying $1.7 million to rightwing death squads that have killed thousands in this country's long civil conflict.” (Juan Forero, “Colombia May Seek Chiquita Extraditions,” The Washington Post, 3/21/07).

and here as well:

..and, he went to legal bat for the Global Crossing ponzi scheme; one of those companies with close ties to Bill Clinton which was a part of the era of fraud, corporate corruption, accounting fraud, and venture capitalism gone mad era of the late 90's which is very much a significant part of the root fodder in our current economic crisis. Global Crossing, even as they were doing their part in tearing down the economy in late 2000, were one of the prime corporate sponsors of the 2000 Democratic Convention in Los Angeles, CA (which resulted in Al Gore). 

anyone else find it amusing..

..when Kutsie Katey is trying to look intelligent when interviewing someone and has her glasses and "serious face" on?

Some woman who's name escapes me from Slate magazine recently wrote how Katie was one of the dumbest people she ever met in the industry. I believe it. Boy howdy.

The dimwit Couric is a pox on Journalism de jour...

I have absolutely no respect for this twit [Katie] and her 'opinions'. I'm galled by the fact that she has ever been taken seriously by anyone.

This hobag's verbiage is sewer worthy and about as relevant as a drop in a pond.

Meanwhile, [and on the lighter side]...life is still good, our beloved country is still standing. I adore my leetle baby country so much and I don't want to give up on her...ever. My grandfather and uncles have shed their blood for this beautiful territory. 

No one watches this witch

I have never watched this person on TV, ever..

I make sure the TV never gets anywhere near the channel she is on..If I can't watch objective, fact based news, I don't watch it at all. She is just another twit who is in love with herself.

I remember years ago some

I remember years ago some news show did a whole thing on Matt Lauer and Katie Couric about how cute they were, and blah blah blah blah.

I hate it when 'journalists' waste air time on each other.

It'd be sorta like ESPN showing highlight reels of referees during sporting events...sorta.

One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).

I wonder what comrade Katie would think about the Pink Pistols

http://www.pinkpisto...

-Dave

This coup has gone on long enough. The time to put it down is NOW.

R D.........

or I wonder what she would think of this guy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkWgp2abM2w

Not sure when this came out, but he my Hero!

 

Kathie Couric , CBS Put her as "Anchor " reading Liners.PERIOD

Hello! Mr. Baker  Thanks good column.-   Yes ..I'm very old, were different them, to be longer we have to understand today.-Soldiers  were proud, yesterday and (TODAY) as  were tortured they gave us a real "Good" gave an excellent  (S.O.B.did us Hell! .-I will get then probably when I see then soon  in some city (Street). "I,ll get then for sure.!.-                           Ashamed,disgrace they are not Humans there are Socialism,Liberals, intimidation,harrasment hate and envidius.. against Pro Life, pro family, our Faith. regarding Mrs. Couric Mathews,Maggie Rodriguez, Sanchez, etc etc must of them rest sleep go to Bed. In the morning look to the Mirrors.

Thanks & Cooperation

Charles H. Garrido, Miami Fla.-