Letterman: 'Bonehead' Limbaugh Looks Like 'Eastern European Gangster'

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At the taping late Monday afternoon of CBS's Late Show, host David Letterman asked guest Katie Couric about “this bonehead Rush Limbaugh,” prompting Couric to plead: “Dave, don't do this to me, please! Don't do this to me.” But Letterman was just getting rolling with insults as he asserted Limbaugh's attire on Saturday at CPAC made him look “like an Eastern European gangster.” Focusing on Limbaugh's physical appearance, Letterman recited how Limbaugh's “got the black jacket on, the black silk shirt and it's unbuttoned, like, 'oh yeah, when you think Rush Limbaugh, you think ooh let's see a little flesh.'”

CBS posted the exchange as the “Big Show Highlight” preview for Monday's show. It's now the lead video in rotation on the Late Show's home page where it is displayed under the “Rush in the Flesh” heading. You can also view the Flash video clip from this interior page. [Update: video added to this post]

Audio: MP3 audio clip which matches the video clip (32 secs, 200 Kb).

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The relevant portion of the preview clip for the March 2 Late Show with David Letterman:
DAVID LETTERMAN: What about this bonehead Rush Limbaugh? Honest to God, I mean what is going on there?

KATIE COURIC: Dave, don't do this to me, please! Don't do this to me.

LETTERMAN: He gets up in Washington and he's the keynote speaker at some function, and he comes up, he looks like an Eastern European gangster. You know, he's got the black jacket on, the black silk shirt and it's unbuttoned, like, “oh yeah, when you think Rush Limbaugh, you think ooh let's see a little flesh.” [audience laughter] Honestly, you know, what is he doing?

COURIC: On a serious note, although I'm thrown by the Rush Limbaugh flesh in one sentence, but I think it's sort of indicative of this power vacuum that exists right now in the Republican party...

—Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center


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Letterman

Looks like a tired old fart, way past his prime, trying to tell other people's jokes.

10ksnooker, is it any wonder...

...that Letterman's ratings are continually in the sub-basement?

You're absolutely right - this dunderhead needs to be sent to pasture along with Kutie Katie Kouric.  This pathetic, worn-out show ran its course years ago and why the Clinton Broadcasting System keeps it on the air is anyone's guess.

Yeah, Dave - how about one more installment of "Will It Float?"  - Presidential Quotes - or maybe another boring Top 10 list - something else to cure insomnia!

Letterman and Kouric - what an odd couple - both are legends in their own minds!

"Who am us, anyway?" - Firesign Theatre 

 

you forgot...

You must include Katie's middle name... It's Cutie (gag) Katie. :-)

Boneheads

If there were a land of boneheads, and Im sure there is somewhere cause they keep breeding them, David Letterman could be their King for life. This guy has been a world class jackass all his life and just gets worse as he ages. Most people grow up or mature at some point but Dave just gets more silly and asinine the older he gets. He has lost any pretense of being a moderator on his show and like so many others in the "entertainment" industry (see how small and unimportant that sounds) he is like a spoiled brat who doesn't like to hear of adults being grown up and doing responsible things.

Wow, Letterman and

Wow, Letterman and Couric--two paragons of intellectual prowess!  If Letterman and Limbaugh ever had a serious debate on any issue, Letterman's head would explode.  Letterman is adept at making empty smarmy sarcastic comments; Limbaugh truly understands the foundation of our nation and what can keep it strong.  I'll go with Limbaugh.

 

 

"The race is not always to the swift nor the battle to the strong, but that's the way to bet."

Letterman would probably

Letterman would probably agree. But his job is to make fun of people like Limbaugh.

Okay, balboa, let's hear

Okay, balboa, let's hear him make fun of people like Obama, too--you know like he did on a daily basis when Bush was president. Further, Letterman would not agree with anything; he's far too oblivious to Limbaugh's points to comprehend that Limbaugh is more informed than he is.

 

"The race is not always to the swift nor the battle to the strong, but that's the way to bet."

Smarty... Did you watch

Smarty...

Did you watch Letterman in the 90's?  The Clintons were nightly comedy punching bags during the opening monologue, and at least a couple of Top Ten lists a week targeted either Bill or Hillary.

Jer

Jer

That is true, but where are the Obama jokes ?

Leno is doing 'em!  He really does target all of them.

 

"Gov. Palin has been subjected to one of the most massive and dishonest pile-on smear attacks in the history of liberal media."  -- Lowell Ponte

Free... I stopped

Free...

I stopped watching both Letterman [and Leno] years ago.  Dave is definitely liberal, but I wouldn't be surprised if Obama becomes more frequent joke fodder for his show sooner or later.  I was a regular viewer during the Clinton years, and, as you can imagine, there was plenty of material to joke about and Letterman certainly took advantage of it.  It was hysterical. 

Jer 

Jer, I, too, remember

Jer,

I, too, remember Letterman making a good living at Clinton's expense.  At some point during the Bush Presidency, however, Letterman's stage persona changed.  Instead of having fun at Bush's expense, he became bitter and really nasty.  I've heard some suggest that the infamous O'Reilly appearance was the trigger...but I think Letterman really changed after his (was it quadruple?) bypass surgery.  He was away from the show for several weeks and seemed to develop a real chip on his shoulder by the time he came back.  All of a sudden his jokes turned pointed and personal.  I half expected him to go the Lenny Bruce route...screw the audience, I'm just going to stand here and read from my court documents.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill

fitz...That's essentially

fitz...That's essentially what Smartypants just pointed out to me a few posts down the thread.

That's too bad.  I am a firm believer in apolitical pina`tas.

Jer

Zippy The Letterman

The moment I recall Letterman turning nasty on a permanent basis was after a comedy bit about a boy trying to stay awake during a Bush speech.

Letterman had used the occurrence for a mild joke.  The White House denied the premise but the video clearly showed the boy nodding off.

Story here.  Video here.  The linked story does not inform of the outright disgust Letterman displayed towards the WH and Bush while defending the video and comedy bit.

From that point on, Dave was on a mission to demean Bush at every opportunity, including whole monologues devoted to Bush bashing and the beginning of "Great Moments In Speech" (? name) where previous president's greatest speech moments were contrasted to a Bush malaprop or stutter. 

Such great bile from one small event.  Letterman was never the same in my estimation and I lost interest in him ever since.

Ferguson is Worse

Craig Ferguson (on after Letterman, owned by Letterman) is worse, and even further to the left. He regularly showed clips of President Bush (or Boosh, as he calls him in his poor English) slowed down to half-speed or so, and made the claim that President Bush 'had started drinking again'. What's odd is that Ferguson is also a recovering alcoholic, and judging by his personality, much more likely to fall off the wagon than President Bush is.

FYI, he's Scottish. That's

FYI, he's Scottish. That's how they talk.

I watched Bill Oreilly on

I watched Bill Oreilly on Letterman's show.  Bill asked Dave if he, Dave, wanted us to win the war in Iraq.  Letterman just sat there with his mouth open and never did answer the question.  Yes, Letterman was funny in the 90's but he sure became bitter about something.  I doubt you'll ever hear an Obama joke on his show.

"I dont need to read a newspaper to know the world's been shaved by a drunken barber."

Walter Brennan, The Colonel, Meet John Doe, 1941

This is true, Jer, but

This is true, Jer, but Letterman has changed quite a bit from the 90's.  Then, he was making fun of a public figure.  Now, he has become entirely too political, and generally one-sided.  His disrespectful treatment of Bill O'Reilly exemplified his new partisan tone.  He did not just make fun of Bush like he did Clinton; he ridiculed him on a regular basis.  There is a difference, a big difference. Clinton was teased for being chubby. Bush was treated like he was an idiot.  Obama is not touched at all.

 

 

"The race is not always to the swift nor the battle to the strong, but that's the way to bet."

He'll make fun of Obama

He'll make fun of Obama eventually. It'll happen. 

And if BOR isn't a Republican, how can Dave roasting him be partisan? 

Please, balboa, no offense

Please, balboa, no offense but you're acting like a child...oh, that's right, you are a liberal.  Sorry.

BOR may not be a Republican, but there is no doubt the Hollywood/Manhattan liberal elites, like Letterman, view him as a conservative, period.  To Letterman, BOR and Limbaugh are cut from the same cloth, and he is treating them as such.

 

"The race is not always to the swift nor the battle to the strong, but that's the way to bet."

I know. I just wanted to

I know. I just wanted to bring it up. :-)

O'Reilly's not a Republican.

O'Reilly's not a Republican.  He just talks like one every time he opens his mouth.

Jer

Not if your

A conservitive?

 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Especially if you're a conservative.

Especially if you're a conservative.  If BOR were any farther to the right of Judge Napolitano--who's about as conservative as any judge on the planet--he would topple into the Atlantic Ocean.

Jer

Jer, Judge Napolitano is

Jer,

Judge Napolitano is a pro-life libertarian.  O'Reilly is just a populist.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill

fitz...

O'Reilly is a tick or two to the left of Rush and "The Great One" and occasionally plays the populist card when he thinks it may spike his ratings, e.g. his attacks on Big Oil.

Jer

Whatever he is, he's really

Whatever he is, he's really annoying.  Unwatchable.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill

A populist is not necessarily a conservative

Jer - BOR is a Right-leaning Populist.  Definitely not a Republican. 

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

Okay Unsane...

Okay, Unsane...

I'll relent (slightly), if I may include part of fitz's description:  a Right-leaning, really annoying, populist.  In any event, he sure ain't a liberal.

Jer

BTW and FTR...he was a registered Republican who several years ago hurriedly changed it to "Independent" when he learned his affiliation was about to be revealed by the WaPo.

BOR is a bore

That's fine...I tired of BOR ages ago.  Ironically, it was through his show that I first heard of NB.   

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

I think I've finally weaned

I think I've finally weaned myself off of BOR.  But, don't worry, I can't stomach Olbermann either.  Military channel is now my first option.

Jer

Uncle Jer, my new buddy!

  Military channel. Really? WOW! 

  Best show I have seen in the last few months was Battle 360. It was on History channel though.

  The Big E. Uncle Jer's favorite ship.

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

JWF...Battle 360 is

JWF...

Battle 360 is indeed an excellent production.  HC needs more like it and less UFO nonsense.  The best WWII documentary series, by far, is The World At War, narrated by Sir Lawrence Olivier and originally released in the 70's.  I bought the DVD collection last year.  Absolutely first rate.  If you've never seen it, I highly recommend it.

Jer

edit:  It should be Laurence Olivier.  Last time I'm asking my wife a spelling question.

Jer

World at War was excellant.It was the best WW 2 documentary I have ever seen also.I havent heard the title in years.

Military Channel and History

Military Channel and History International are what I watch. History Channel is a total disappointment with non-history reality shows like Ice Road Truckers, Ax Men, etc.

Me too, greval.... I

Me too, greval....

I guess with the advent of the Military Channel and History International, the History Channel ceded a major portion of "authentic" history programming to those channels; and although HC still occasionally airs interesting and pertinent series like "The Presidents" and "The States" [title?], there are far too many absurdities like the ones you mention.

Jer

He'll make fun Obama

Balboa your right, he'll start poking fun at Obama when the Republicans and Conservative are safely destroyed not before.  Then he may become his old silly harmless self again but you must see what he's doing hasn't been as simple as poking fun, he crossed that line a very long time ago. he's been systematically vicious, cruel, and damaging. Facts have no meaning to him. His agenda knowingly or unknowingly has been supporting our countries enemies you know the Muslim murderers, and their allies within and outside of this country albeit subtly.

Only an idiot wouldn't see that. An idiot or someone who is being deliberately obtuse

Also BOR calls himself a Libertarian, but I don't think he knows what that is. BOR is a stupid overbearing opportunist.

Smarty... a.  Like I

Smarty...

a.  Like I just explained to Free, I haven't watched Letterman in years.  But, until recently, I had been a regular viewer of O'Reilly.  I don't know when Dave started ragging on BOR, but the latter has been knocking Letterman for years [and I would bet anything it predated Letterman's 'retaliation'.]

b.  Letterman's Clinton jabs weren't just limited to good-natured teasing about his weight by any means.  Clinton's "zipper problem" and legal entanglements were constant themes.

Jer

Jer:  In terms of the

Jer:

In terms of the BOR/Letterman rift, you may have a point.  Something was obviously going on with DL on that show.

We'll agree to disagree overall, but I see a big difference in how Bush was treated by Letterman vs. Clinton.  Clinton's own behavior was a joke; the entire Monica Lewinski deal (cigar and all) was ripe for late-night tv comedy.  Like I said, Bush was treated like he is a complete moron by Letterman.  Further, he was attacked for having different politics than Letterman.  Letterman took some jabs at Clinton, no question, but with Bush he was downright mean and disrespectful.

Letterman is politically ignorant and should avoid the topic altogether.  He was funnier when he stuck to throwing stuff off of roofs or spoofing foreign pizza shop owners.

 

"The race is not always to the swift nor the battle to the strong, but that's the way to bet."

Smarty... I agree with

Smarty...

I agree with about 95% of your post, which is cause for a minor celebration.

Jer  

pop that cork...

pop that cork...

OMG! NO!

make fun of Comrade Glorious Supreme Leader for Life Obama? The TRUTH SQUAD will be dispatched immediately to show you the error of your ways.

Liberals -- proudly supporting, encouraging and funding the elimination of inner city babies since 1973

Dave's a liberal hater Balboa, be honest

Dave has plenty of material to poke fun at Obama and Joe and Pelosi etc...but he doesn't, he pokes fun at Rush, and he still goes out of his way to poke fun at Bush....it's lame, it's obvious and he's not as funny as he used to be.  His politics aren't funny and he's turned-off 1/2 of the country.

Rpeggio:  Letterman's

Rpeggio:  Letterman's leftward bias is so patently obvious that it is not worth debating.  He has ruthlessly attacked conservatives for the past several years while ignoring liberals for the most part.  Sure, he takes his occasional jabs at liberals, like he does with many people, but it is far more personal and underhanded with conservatives, and it is often not even funny.

DL's entire attack of Limbaugh was not the slightest bit witty or funny; it was not even close to Letterman's own standards.  He had to get a dig in though, so he forced it.

 

"The race is not always to the swift nor the battle to the strong, but that's the way to bet."

Daves Job

Apparently, Letterman's job is also to kiss Obamas ass. I wonder if Dave gets the Chrissy Matthews leg tingle. No, I think Dave is actually hetero.

The Boneheads!

If brains were dynamite, Couric & Letterman couldn't blow their noses.  If people are looking for boneheads, those two would make a good start.

Ditto to you Smartypants

This "interview" is pathetic. It's Lenin and Trotsky (only without their frontal lobes) meeting at a coffee house. Two leftys who specialize in dumbing down the media content sit down and pat each other on the back.
Either one would turn on the other instantly to get their individual ratings up or if management wanted it.

I remember an episode of "South Park" from last year. A friend sent me a clip of it ...according to the "European Fecal Standards & Measurement" Office "...the "KittyKouric" is the standard unit for measuring Crap.

The writers are California dims / limo libs. However they do keep to their promise of being "equal opportunity offenders".

They're all going to be screwed when they realize that they are part of the "evil 2%" in Os socialist class struggle. Socialists all eat their own eventually.

"The interests of [radical Facist] Muslims and the interests of the socialists coincide in the war against the crusaders[USA]."
Osama bin Laden - March 2003

???

I want to know why Letterman and his friends think its ok for them to bash presidents, but somehow its wrong when Rush does it. I dont understand why people like this think they are the only ones who have a right to speak out. 

O'Reilly

Letterdork went after Bill a while back.

Bill decided to be a guest on his show. O'Reilly taught davey how to best eat crow and apologize for being retarded politically.

Anybody ever wonder why lettermnas village isn't looking for their idiot?  They don't want him either.

 

http://gjresult.com

 

Listen to him...

Those two front teeth could plane down a door.

 

Because with a name like Obama... you know it has to be good.

Katie knows what's coming...

Katie knows what's coming, but Letterman appears oblivious to it. His attempts at marginalizing Rush reflect his and the Left's ignorance. It isn't about the Republican party. It's about free speech and freedom to make decisions that affect our lives. It is about immigration, our culture, and our safety. It is about allegiance. Couric and Letterman seem to know nothing about any of these things, and don't care about them.

The line in the sand is drawn.

Just a thought

I know Letterman has been around for a while now, and I think I remember that he tried to fill in for Carson, but I dont have a clue as to where he actually came from. I have never watched his show because after a few minutes he is not funny and just plain sickening. So just a thought where did he come from anyway and who paid for him to be on TV?

RD:  Back in the day,

RD:  Back in the day, Letterman was funny and original.  He was the counter to the straight-laced Johnny Carson (who I respected immensely).  Letterman has changed as he's aged, though; he's far more mean-spirited and intolerant.  Now, he just seems to be turning into a cranky old man.

 

"The race is not always to the swift nor the battle to the strong, but that's the way to bet."

Letterman's roots

Letterman is from Indiana and moved to L.A. in the 70's to pursue comedy.  He appeared on Carson, which eventually led to guest hosting gigs.  Then when Carson decided to cut back from 90 to 60 minutes, NBC tapped Letterman to create "Late Night", a program produced by Carson.  Eventually Carson decided to retire.  When NBC chose Leno over Letterman, the latter bailed to CBS, where he's been mired in 2nd place.

Limbaugh was a guest on Letterman many years ago, and Letterman was rude to him then.  I've been unable to find an authoritative link, but I do remember the episode vaguely.

I was a fan of Letterman, but he ran out of gas long ago. 

When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.

Why Rush Limbaugh?

   David Letterman is a lowbrow humorless comedian whose career died several back at the Oscars. But why is this snarky Manhattanite worried about Rush Limbaugh? Is he listening to George Stephanopoulos's group phone conversations in the morning? 

    The real question is why is this administration going to war with a radio host? To me this looks like a diversion, Rahm and his merry band of lucid idiots have no plan for the economy so they attack a critic as if this branding will absolve them of their failure. If they seriously want to make Limbaugh irrelevant they should work to make this country prosperous. People can be convinced with concrete success a lot more easily then abstract bickering. So please Obama administration, stop the constant politicking and concentrate on governing, the ball is in your court.

This idea that people only

This idea that people only make fun of people they're afraid of is over-used.

 

~Conservaphobe

Hope and Change=
Despair and Socialism

  The idea of commenting

  The idea of commenting on something you missed the point on it underused.

 

It is a Political Calculation

The reason for the attack is simple, it is a political calulation. Obama and Rahm know they will never get tha 20% of Americans who make up the Conservative Wing of the Republican Party. They are after the middle. By demonizing Rush, who most of the Country has not really listened too and only have the MSM's version they can say that any Repunlican ideas come from the CRAZY FAR RIGHT. The ruth does not matter. Perception is reality. That is why all the MSM are in lockstep. It would not matter what Rush says are believes because most Americans let someone else define for them. That is the problem. CNN made a mistake when they broadcast the speech but CNN does not have enough viewers to make much of a difference. Just an opinion.

  I used to watch Letterman

  I used to watch Letterman many years ago when he was a comedian. 

Dave wishes he had as many viewers as Rush has listeners

Dave's just jealous that Rush has 22M listeners and Dave gets less than a 1/4 of that each night....

And Dave showing his liberal stripes more and more each year has really been a turn-off....tell your jokes, do your funny stuff and leave the liberal pessimistic hate-riolics to MSNBC etc. 

This is rich

I've been waiting for this showdown. But I got a feeling its much to do about nothing. Letterman has been hands off to Rush and I'm not really sure why. I do know Rush had a few walk ons for the Letterman Show when it was on NBC (carrying ham etc.).

Letterman has obviously adopted a hands off policy to making jokes about Obama. He is still making Palin jokes, but will not make a joke where Obama is the butt of the joke. I brought this up about a month ago . Hopefully now this will get some coverage.

I really want to hear Rush's reaction. I have this feeling Rush is going to ignore it. I don't know why, but as far as Letterman, he's hands off.

Beware of a crazy woman throwing a hash pipe.

Another OBSESSIVE DEVOTION

My Shahinshah, you have an OBSESSIVE DEVOTION to one Rush Limbaugh... 

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

No- not really

 I am more intrigued ( and I mean intrigued) by his fans. Rush reminds me of Bob Dylan. You get all pumped up for the concert, he walks out, and after 2 notes you remember he can't sing. Still a good concert, just not GREAT.

Rush's fans intrigue me. Its like Revenge of the Political Nerds or something! :)

Beware of a crazy woman throwing a hash pipe.

I sense someone being less than fully intellectually honest...

Well, what else am I to conclude after seeing that about 95% of your posts are blasts about Mr. Limbaugh and demands that he be "divorced" from the GOP (even though he himself has said that he is not a party man but an ideologue)?

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

Other than the doggy thing

 I 'm not trying to blast Rush. He's not qualified to be head of the GOP, but I have no problem with his show. However the GOP cannot survive with a type of antipope castrating the legitimate leaders of the GOP. The GOP has no choice but to divorce Rush if it wants to survive. Thats a fact, and I full expect it will be a looooooong time before any dittohead agrees with that. That is ominous.

Beware of a crazy woman throwing a hash pipe.

The expert speaks.

   A man so far left he could make a communist blush seems to think he knows what is good for the party on the right. 

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

The Parrot

So, you are not trying to blast Rush. OK. Then I see you contradict yourself, as you parrot this tired talking point:

"He's not qualified to be head of the GOP, but I have no problem with his show. However the GOP cannot survive with a type of antipope castrating the legitimate leaders of the GOP. The GOP has no choice but to divorce Rush if it wants to survive. Thats a fact, and I full expect it will be a looooooong time before any dittohead agrees with that. That is ominous."

Whether or not he is qualified to run the GOP, I will leave to the GOP.

The rest of this oft-parroted rant of yours only tells me one thing: you are a Leftist, not a "moderate". You are a Leftist that is deeply embarrassed and totally ashamed to admit to your Leftism. You are also deeply frightened of ONE GUY with a microphone and radio affiliates.

Virtually all you have done today is whine, scream, cry, bitch and moan about why Rush is even permitted to breathe. Learn to be intellectually honest and just come out and say that you only want Leftist parties in the United States running things.

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

You HAVE to leave the GOP

You and people like you HAVE to leave the GOP. Government is a civilized function.It has been bastardized into a "bloodsport" ( as another poster put it) by Limbaugh. You and all his dittoheads have to to leave the GOP if it is to survive. You and all your spitball hurling dittoheads, all of the academia hating brethren, all the decorum cursing savages, have to leave for the GOP to survive. You have crapped out this house. You have to leave for it to recover. Your beer snorting tricks are not the future of this nation. Civility and intelligence are. You laud William F Buckley Jr, and when his own son rebukes this carney barking crap- YOU'RE COVERED! He's not a true Buckley.

 

For the GOP to survive, the dittoheads have to leave or be ignored. The clowns are running the circus.

(IMO of course)

Beware of a crazy woman throwing a hash pipe.

nwahs

that is the funniest thing i've read in a month!

with Pelosi, Murtha, Gore et al in the dem party you're worried about Rush being civil?

The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts

They're being civil

 They're being civil to those on the same side! Rush's ego won't allow that. He'll castrate anyone who crosses him, conservative or not!

Beware of a crazy woman throwing a hash pipe.

i think you mean

i think you mean castigate

just saying, he's not a vet.

The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts

No I meant something more severe

I meant castrate (figuratively)

Beware of a crazy woman throwing a hash pipe.

Huh?

And the Left is civil?

How about Sen. Durbin accusing me of using tactics befitting the Third Reich or the Stalinist USSR? 

That's just ONE example I can think of off the top of my head.

And when has politics ever been civil?  In the 1850s, for instance, duels nearly broke out in the Senate over the slavery issue.  While I do not advocate a return to such days, politics IS a "bloodsport".  The decisions made politically can have far reaching prospects for the destiny of the nation and perhaps the world.   

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

Will you just admit it?

 Just admit that you are a Leftist who is totally embarrassed and ashamed to admit it; one who desperately ACHES for TWO Leftist parties in the United States.  By whining this line Government is a civilized function.It has been bastardized into a "bloodsport" ( as another poster put it) by Limbaugh, ALL you have told me is "We ALL need to learn to be happy little Socialists together.  Socialism is GOOD and GOOD FOR YOU!!!  And I can't handle Limbaugh's arguments, so instead of confronting them, he needs to SHUT UP."

I don't think that the GOP should take the advice of Leftists such as yourself.  Especially after last year, when they did EVERYTHING YOU WANTED and they STILL LOST. 

Personally, the GOP needs to de the exact, precise opposite of what you whine for in order to succeed. 

By the way...I cannot leave what I am not part of.  Look up the phrase "open primary" sometime.  TX has those.

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

You confuse "civility" with

You confuse "civility" with ignorance, snobbery and cowardice.  The core problem with the Republican Party is that it has contaminated its principles and its influence by tolerating the hijacking of policy by the soft, intellectually lazy "moderate" wing of the Party...all in the name of "civility".  What you and other pseudo-conservatives have shown time and time again is that you will accept poison, as long as the delivery system is appealing.  Christopher Buckley didn't vote for Obama on principle...he voted for him because he was too intellectually vacant to separate an attractive public speaker from the dangerous words he spoke.  He voted for "Fonzie" because he was "cool" and his "square" MODERATE opponent was too inarticulate and ideologically confused to make a compelling case.  Your definition of GOP "survival" requires the surrender of Party principles simply to appease some intangible perception.  It requires that serial failures like Arnold Schwarzenegger, Charlie Crist and Arlen Specter...people who have sold out their constituents because they were too afraid to face down the eco-parasites, the trial lawyers and the thugs in the labor unions...be accepted as the new "leadership" because they're more acceptable to the left.  If that's "survival"...then burn, baby, burn. 

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill

El Rusbo

Joe T. Plumber embraced the Limbaugh tar baby and showed up at CPAC to peddle his "award-winning" book. He was given a generous three-hour spot for the mobs of people who would visit him and want his written dedication to them in the book they purchased.
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Seems he sold six books in 45 minutes and the whole event closed down like a GOP house of cards after 55 minutes. Once you embrace the bituminous Oxycontin-riddled Limbaugh tar baby, you are stuck for life. There are no solvents to separate you from it. 
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You bought the tar baby. Enjoy it in good health for all that it represents because you're gonna be paying a political price for many years to come.

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~You said it all, Free

Hope and Change=
Despair and Socialism

Another Tolerant and Compassionate drive by

More original talking points from the other side. 

"Somehow, I told you so, just doesn't quite say it." Will Smith in 'I, Robot.'

Startlingly clever

Startlingly clever remarks...... proving that the pen is far mightier than the sword, but the writer probably has a sheath....   

Of course they're making fun of him...

The very first weapon someone uses to try and get a person to denounce their beliefs is mockery.  You try to make them ashamed of what they believe by pointing at them and laughing until they either slink away or renounce their principles.

And of course in the case of Letterman and Couric, you've got two liberal media entertainers bouncing material off each other and being egged on by a like-minded audience.  What else could one expect?

Couric's ratings are in the toilet.  Letterman has always been the #2 of late night (in both senses of the word).  It's no wonder that after the skewering that Rush gave all these idiots in his speech that they'd get together and start squealing like the stuck pigs they are....

Both of these smarmy twits

Both of these smarmy twits make me sick.  They act like they are so above the fray.  Neither one of them even bothers to take the time to actually comprehend what Limbaugh is talking about.  It sails right over their heads and they don't even notice.  They know what they know, and nobody is going to tell them differently.

 

"The race is not always to the swift nor the battle to the strong, but that's the way to bet."

You beat me to it Slyrr

If Rush an Eastern European gangster or Casino Goon, Letterman is The Cooler. Nice ratings, Perky.

No surprise

Letterman and Couric are in the same class as Jon Steward.Shills who think they have something worthwhile to say.Both Steward and Letterman are afraid to talk about Dear Leader so they find suitable targets that their left wing suckuphants can giggle and snear at.

I stopped watching Letterman when they stopped...

...throwing stuff off the roof.

At least THAT was funny.

-Dave

-Dave

Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.

I watched Johnny Carson for 16 years.

  I watched Johnny for 16 years. Taping his show every single day. But his politics finally got to me and I stopped.

  Oh Wait.

  No it was Dave. It was Dave and his partisan politics. I quit watching Dave after 16 years. Johnny I watched until he retired.

  Come to think of it. I never knew what side of the political fence Johnny Carson sat. Johnny Carson had class and knew that ticking off half of his listening audience would not be in his interest.

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

You are correct,

You are correct, sir.

Jer

Carson was a class act all the way

And one of the funniest people on TV. I used to sneak around at night to watch him in rooms where my parents weren't until they finally started letting me stay up late.

I doubt we will ever see his kind again.

Sad.

-Dave

Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.

I loved Carson, too.  But

I loved Carson, too. 

But if a ton of people really want a TV host like that again, then it'll happen.  

Hey Bal

Judging by what passes for late night entertainment these days, I'm not holding my breath.

if a ton of people really

if a ton of people really want a TV host like that again, then it'll happen

And click our heels three times?

Jer

Correct me if I'm wrong, but

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't just about everyone have at least 100 different TV channels to watch?  I think DirecTV gives me 300+.  Here's what I do when Letterman or anyone else isn't funny - I change the channel.  Are people really this upset over Letterman?  Change the channel.  If nothing else suffices, fire up the Tivo.  Nothing there?  Read a book.  Or just continue to post about how that one host on that one channel that you don't even watch isn't treating the republican party fairly.  What do I care? 

Hey Bert,

How's it goin'?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you criticizing those who would criticize? Couldn't you just go read a book or watch one of your 300+ channels on TV instead of reading these posts that seem to irritate you?

 

Healthcare...Food...Education...Housing... - What sprouted as free for some is maturing into a free-for-all.

The point of my post is to

The point of my post is to criticize the overreaction to this story.  The section of the thread I responded to specifically became a discussion about Johnny Carson.   Letterman is a comedian, not a news outlet.  If people don't like his politics, change the channel, but don't act as if he's part of the vast left wing conspiracy, and that he should be politically neutral.  I don't think there's a show out there that is completely neutral these days.  With so much snickering about how Letterman is over, his ratings are tanking...news flash!  He's not going anywhere.  He still makes more money than everyone on this site and couldn't care less about who he offends by smack talking about Rush and BO.

As a free market guy, I

As a free market guy, I agree with your post.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill

The right to b**** paired with the clicker

It's funny how many guys and gals who cry "change the channel" - actually, I can't change the channel because I almost never hit the power button on my TV - seem deeply offended that anyone will dare espouse an opinion on anything they see on TV.

I am not seeing a call for censorship here. What I AM seeing is a reaction to Mr. Letterman - who I personally NEVER found the slightest bit funny - and the reaction is critical. Now, I am guessing that lots of those who have reacted in the negative to him did indeed change the channel or powered off their TVs. Does this mean that we do not have the right to bitch about it?

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

So many straw men. Please everyone - NO SMOKING!

Straw man - Who says Letterman is part of the vast left wing conspiracy? No one here. Straw man down.

Straw man - Who said Letterman was a news outlet? No one. Straw man down.

Straw man - Who said Letterman was over? No one. Straw man down.

Straw man - Who is upset over Letterman? No one. People are just offering opinions. Straw man down.

  Why are some people so upset that other people are so upset about Letterman? If you don't like what is beings said, go read another thread somewhere else. There is lots of sites all over teh interwebs.

  Some people watched Letterman daily for 16 years. That would be something like 20,000 shows. You might figure that after devoting 20,000 hours of ones life, they might be entitled to an opinion or two. You might read what they say, you might not. But don't get upset that they offered an opinion and then tell them how upset they seem to be.

  And what is wrong with the Carson comparisons? He was in the genre. Some might even call him King of the genre.  Some might see the comparisons as apt, and others should not get upset that some are upset and start complaining about all teh upsetting.

 Finally, shows SHOULD be neutral. ALL shows SHOULD be neutral. What is the point in offending HALF of your audience?

 Sorry, do I seem upset?

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

Where did bethuggmagug go?

Now I am upset. Someone upset the apple wagons and ran out.

I spent a great deal of time getting all over the upsets and someone does not even bother to reply.

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

Chacacter assasination

Seems all of the critics of Rush take the low road ... his looks, his clothes, the way he talks, etc., and yet no one states what it is about his speech that they object to. Not even the so-called "high brow" conservatives.

But there is no low road

The reason is, when Rush had his television show, he compared Chelsea Clinton (13 or 14 at the time) to a cocker spaniel. Had that been my daughter, the first time I met him, I'd have b-slapped him right across the face and told him to "jump if you feel froggy." He consistently made fun of peoples appearances ( age of victim or cruelness of the insult didn't matter). That's why people feel  justified  in using that type of insult or humor on him. He drew first blood. To be indignant about people making fun of Rush's looks is to ignore Rush's own comedy and satire.

Beware of a crazy woman throwing a hash pipe.

Odd. I can find no mention of Chelsea Clinton & spaniel breeds.

  Except for quotes from one nwahs.

  But I can see how that might hurt even though it happened only in your mind. Someone needs to take their meds.

  The rest of us actually attended HIGH SCHOOL and heard much worse in the way of insults. So we all got a little hardened to insults.

  Apparently, some of us never even heard the whole sticks and stones can break my bones but being compared to AKC registered breeds can never hurt me.

 I have my own favorite insult from 4th grade. I would beat on that nwahs guy but I am afraid my fists would get some kind of disease so I will beat him but N.W.A.H.S.*

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

* Not Without A Hickory Stick.

Wait a minute

Are you telling me this did not happen? Let me tell you what happened. You can deny it but people who watched the show KNOW it. Rush was lamenting how the Clintons who just moved into the White House didn't have a dog. Then he says wait a minute, and up flashes the picture of a Cocker Spaniel side by side with a picture of Chelsea Clinton in pony/pig tails. It happened. Deny it all you want, it happened, and I thought it was outrageous to make any young child the butt of an ugly joke. It damn well happened.

Beware of a crazy woman throwing a hash pipe.

Couldn't find a link? funny, I'm finding some

 "MORE REALITY: Columnist Molly Ivins reported (Arizona Republic
10/17/93) this incident from Limbaugh's TV show--"Here is a Limbaugh
joke: Everyone knows the Clintons have a cat. Socks is the White House
cat. But did you know there is a White House dog?" And he puts up a
picture of Chelsea Clinton. Chelsea Clinton is 13 years old."

From http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1895

I don't post unless I know what I'm talking about . Its too easy to skip over things. If your first raction is to call someone a liar because you have no idea if something is or is not true, you are the very definition of an idiot.

Beware of a crazy woman throwing a hash pipe.

The report quotes Ivins, not Limbaugh!

If Rush said it, why didn't she put it in quotes attributed to him?  Because he didn't say it!  I saw that episode of Rush's TV show--what Ivins said happened, didn't happen.  It was during one of transition period pieces where he said *out* with a series of things from the old George H. W. Bush White House and *in* with things for the new Clinton White House.  One of the things was *out* with the cute dog of President Bush and *in* with a cute kid--Chelsea.  Innocent, but twisted by the likes of fair.org and Molly Ivins.  I saw it with my own eyes--Ivins was a liar   

You don't know what you're talking about.

You're a liar too.

Rush said it,

Rush said it, JWF...

However, I believe he apologized.  [One of the few times he has done so.]

Jer

 

My old lovable crazy uncle. I was pushing the crazy guy not you.

  Why did you take the bait? I coulda had him thinkin' the whole thing was dreamed up in his little liberal mind.

   I did not say it did not happen. I was saying I could not find the quote anywhere except from the guy who is way too in touch with his feelings.

   The reason I could not find the quote is because NO ONE CARES except for N.W.A.H.S.* 

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

* Needlessly Whining After High School

Oh you got me there!!!!

A veteran of a thousand psychic wars, eh?

Why do I suspect you missed the playoffs?

beware of a crazy woman throwing a hash pipe.

Yes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGi-sOTS5zA

I don't get the playoffs thing.

Jer, what am I missing with his playoffs question? 

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

Not sure, JWF... Maybe an

Not sure, JWF...

Maybe an assertion that one must earn the right to be a veteran of psychic "games" by advancing through successive levels of competition, and then participate in playoffs for which you, sadly, failed to qualify. 

Hell, I don't know.  But I don't think it was a compliment.

Jer

Wha.. Where did... Huh?

  Now that makes no sense. The song is not veteran of a 1000 psychic war GAMES.

  Nor is it MASTER of a 1000 psychic wars. You become a veteran just by PARTICIPATING.

  I am glad Uncle Jer did not understand it either. The world makes sense again. Unlike N.W.A.H.S. *

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

*Not Wielding All His Senses.

Sorry, I was just paddling

Sorry, I was just paddling around...hungry for a worm.

Jer

Yeah high school can be

Yeah high school can be rough. But you would be insulted and teased by your peers, not a nationally syndicated talk show host with a new tv show.

Big difference.

Like the BOC reference.

Oh look another one cares.

  What is that line from Alice's Restaurant?

  One guy is crazy.

  Two guys is what? Oh where is that cd.

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

LOL

At this point I'm just doing the same thing you are...

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/1523068/2/istockphoto...

We understand - you hate Limbaugh

The reason is, when Rush had his television show, he compared Chelsea Clinton (13 or 14 at the time) to a cocker spaniel.  Yes.  That was in February 1993.  Of course, owing to your deep, intense, OBSESSIVE DEVOTION to Limbaugh, you fail to point out that those responsible were fired - by Mr. Limbaugh. 

But don't let that get in the way of your obsessive :I HATE LIMBAUGH" campaign

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

Well I don't hate him

I really don't hate him. I hate Howard Stern ( his shtick) and never listen to him. I always try to catch Rush's first hour. 

Beware of a crazy woman throwing a hash pipe.

Humm... Another Bob Dylan fan

"I always try to catch Rush's first hour."

Humm... Jut like a Bob Dylan fan!  You know, comparison you used in a previous post. If he's not that "great," why do you listen to him?

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities
of Citizens in the several States.

The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court

Because you never quite know

 when he's going to belt out Like a Rolling Stone.

"How does it feel!!!!"

Most of the time we get "Just like a woman" :D

Beware of a crazy woman throwing a hash pipe.

Really?

Your many recent posts dedicated to blasting Rush for everything and all things suggests to me otherwise.   

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

Oh well

 Rush is a private citizen and can and should do whatever he wants to. Its quite stupid for the GOP to bow to him. Thats not his fault, thats the GOP's fault.

Beware of a crazy woman throwing a hash pipe.

Boy you have a LOT of explaining to do

If the GOP is putty in Limbaugh's hands, please explain the following:

1) Why did McCain win the primary last year?

2) Explain the following comment from late January: "I'm not a party man; I am an ideologue."

I'll probably get more Leftist talking points, but what the hell, I'll give it a shot.

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

letterman and couric

Oh, Gee...the snarky and the vapid...on one stage. Maybe Dave needs to go back to his first calling...weatherman.

Please Lord...take away her cue cards and his mike and give us some peace

Satirist

Letterman is a brilliant satirist, and he was displaying his mesmerizing talents and original thoughts...

Letterman is a hack, has been one for a long time, and he shows it every time he starts backing liberals and cracking on conservatives. He totally embarrassed himself with this juvenile rant. He embarrassed his guest, the estimable Ms. Couric, but he's famous for pushing stupid interview themes.

European Gangster Look

Gees, I wish my husband would dress like that!  LOL  (Course as a conservative, he's typically the khaki pants and oxford shirt guy.)

In fact, hasn't that been a recent fashion trend in Holywood?  Black on black, no tie, etc.  And to criticize the chest hair!  In depth reporting, for sure.

Not a typo by the way.  Holy us preaching to the masses from LaLa land. 

Round up the RINOs

Howie Long would say

Rush looked like 5 pounds of bologna in a 2 pound sack.

Beware of a crazy woman throwing a hash pipe.

His clothing?

Dave chose to pick apart the man's clothing because that is all he could do.  I would give anything to see Dave attempt to have a rational and intellingent conversation with Rush about politics.  Oh wait, HE COULDN"T!

 "Not for fame or reward, not for place or rank, not lured by ambition or goaded by necessity.  But in simple obedience to duty." - From the barracks at Ft. Benning

I'm willing to bet

 If Rush was invited to any talk show with an opposing view point, he wouldn't go. Thats the difference between him and Ann Coulter. He's canned and in a safe environment. Ann walks a tightrope without a net.

Beware of a crazy woman throwing a hash pipe.

Dear Liberal nwahs...there is a big difference...

between Rush and Ann, besides the obvious.  Rush has a daily talk show, Ann doesn't.  Rush takes on Liberal callers all the time.  In order for Ann to gain the spotlight in the media, she must agree to appear with Liberals because besides Fox and conservative talk radio, the media is ALL Liberal.  BTW, Rush appeared on Letterman many years ago (see my other post) and Letterman being Letterman, the experience had to leave a sour taste in Rush's mouth and is perhaps the reason he no longer subjects himself to nincompoop Liberals.  Jim Webster

Any excuse is better than none

Rush doesn't debate liberals, he talks over them. He turns their volume down. Rush is not a debater. Debate is a skill and he doesn't have it. Ann does. What about Sean Hannity? He has a radio show and a TV show, yet he finds time to debate opposing views. Sean Hannity can debate. Rush can't.

Beware of a crazy woman throwing a hash pipe.

nwahs: I wholeheartedly

nwahs: I wholeheartedly disagree with you on Rush.  On the contrary, he is a strong debater.  The problem is, like Coulter, he is often talking over the head of those he is debating; they simply do not get his point.  Also, he is far more polite and tolerant of those who disagree with him than Coulter.  Ultimately, Limbaugh is a businessman, and he says so himself.  His objective is to make his audience as big as possible; this is why he tries to avoid the insults while making his points as strongly as possible. 

Saying that Limbaugh cannot debate is absurd; he is far better at debate than any media pundit on the left.  Olbermann?  Please.  Matthews?  Empty suit.  Michael Moore?  Don't make me laugh.  Al Franken?  Borderline psychotic. 

I've always contended that conservatives in the media have to have their A game at all times, because there is so much scrutiny on them from the left.  Left wing nutjobs, like Olbermann, can spew endless emotional nonsense and they are never called out for it, because most of the rest of the media agrees with them.  Let Limbaugh make one semi-emotional statement, and it is all over the media.

 

 "The race is not always to the swift nor the battle to the strong, but that's the way to bet."

Thats your opinion but lets clear up the facts

Rush has never exhibited his debating skills against a skilled debater, so you are relying on someone's testimony ( his?) that he is a great debater.

Rush doesn't have a history of avoiding insults to make his points. Again, thats why others feel justified with using fat jokes on him.

 

Beware of a crazy woman throwing a hash pipe.

In response to this remark

In response to this remark - "Rush has never exhibited his debating skills against a skilled debater," -  I must point out that the reason is obvious:  the liberal left has yet to produce an even minimally competent debater. 

Who then is he supposed to debate, oh fetid one? 

Me - "The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years - the cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil."

Whatever the reason

 I'm just stating a fact. I listen to a person go on and on about how great they play guitar, and they never  play in front of anyone, stating there is no one good enough that he could jam with, well I'd laugh at him.

Beware of a crazy woman throwing a hash pipe.

You state your opinions as facts

You keep stating your opinions as facts.  In this respect, you're as bad a debater as you claim Rush to be.

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities
of Citizens in the several States.

The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court

Nwahs,What is this

Nwahs,

What is this intrinsic value that you attach to debate, anyway?  Even stipulating (only for the purposes of argument, because I completely disagree with your premise) to your assertion that Limbaugh doesn't participate in debate, so what?  Does that somehow in and of itself make his ideology wrong?  No.  Does the fact that Michael Kinsley used to engage in staged debates make his ideology right?  Hell, no.

It seems to me that Ann Coulter gets villified for the very thing you accuse Limbaugh of avoiding...direct confrontation with her ideological opponents.  She shows up on the Today Show, the View, on college campuses, even Hardball.  Does she get credit for showing up?  No, she gets attacked...not on the merits of her arguments, but on the twisted, self-serving interpretations posited by her opponents.  She has to hire security so that some spoiled, beta male, pinko college student doesn't succeed in getting his 15 minutes of fame by assaulting her with a pie.  She has to worry that some "moderator" might try to ambush her by having some Elizabeth Edwards-type "victim" call in to make her appear to be a pantomime villain.  And she has to endure the constant drumbeat of the pseudo-intellectuals calling her "strident", a Nazi, all manner of ad hominems because she happens to think differently from her opponents.  The left often use Limbaugh's non-participation in staged debates as a lame excuse for attempting to damage his credibility.  But Ann Coulter does participate in face-to-face conflicts, and she gets the same treatment as Limbaugh.  Face it, it has nothing to do with the forums they choose to express their principles...it's the principles themselves that make Limbaugh and Coulter targets. 

In reality, there's no value in staged debates.  People have this overly-objectified view of "civilized discourse" along the lines of Lincoln-Douglas.  These days, debates are simply glorified pander fests where candidates bend over backwards to make a handful of "undecideds" feel important.  Conservative ideas are not better because a conservative managed to convince some soft moderates that they're better than liberal ideas...they're better because they work.  Liberals are often seen to have "won" debates because they are more comfortable with the theatrical trappings of it all...they never win on substance.  The merits of one's argument are ancillary to the perceived outcome...it's all about presentation, who can deliver the Lloyd Bentsen "you're no Jack Kennedy" soundbite.  Televised debates are now about poise.  Barack Obama said absolutely nothing of substance in the three Presidential debates, Sarah Palin mauled Joe Biden on points, yet the media managed to spin the story to suggest that Obama won all three of his debates with McCain and Biden defeated Palin.  What was learned?  George Stephanopoulos will always shill for the Democrats and squishy moderates want to constantly be reminded of how important they are.  I'll pass, thank you.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill

Well after reading your post, I know you won't agree

But in my opinion, debating people of oposing views in front of others is a mark of inteligence and confidence. And I'm not talking about formal dabates. I'm talking about the confidence in one's own inteligence to sit on a panel of people with opposing ideas and discuss them inteligently.

Ann Coulter is called a lot of things unfairly. I don't know if she is the ideologue she portrays, but she is without question sharp as a tack.

Sorry the response is so short, but after reading your post, we just disagree on the importance of debate.

Beware of a crazy woman throwing a hash pipe.

I'll tell you what,

I'll tell you what, nwahs:  I'll happily give Ann Coulter credit for her courage in going straight to the Lion's Den to administer the ideological Pepsi Challenge.  But I don't think it's right to dismiss Limbaugh just because he doesn't.  I also don't believe there's any inherent virtue to the likes of Kristol, Brooks and Will engaging in debates/panel discussions with liberal opponents.  As I see it, despite their willingness to participate, these people don't have enough confidence in their own stated principles...for they tend to moderate their principles to maintain their perceived dignity once the heat gets turned up. 

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill

I'm willing to bet

I am willing to bet you never heard of a Leftist former employee of the Cuomo admin. in NY, Tim Russert.

Russert, who believe it or not, I miss - and I HATED seeing him go as he did - favored Leftists all the time, yet constantly had interviews and discussions with Rush.  He even made Meet the Press appearances. 

Once again your deep obsessive devotion to Rush leads you nowhere. 

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

What a pair!

First we have DL, an angry liberal still pissed that he was told he was not as witty, funny, intelligent, or as good a long term investment as one Jay Leno; "Leno of big head, big hair, big jaw, how could they have chosen HIM and not ME!" Then we have Couric. She was told she was everything Cronkite was, everything Dan once was, she was to be the first mega-female anchor! Now, in her disappointment, she travels the late night circuit. Her sycophants (the ones who convinced a naturally pretty woman that no one will notice a face lift) tell her Brinkley and Cronkite did Jack Parr. Not favored with Neilson approval, she searches for applause from a second banana's audience and the drowsy remnants of those not watching his better. A fine pair.

rush jealousy

It is so obvious that all the media folk are flippin mad that they do not have the power to shape the national debate like Rush does. Rather than take on the substance of rush's speech, they insult his appearance. Good work dave. Hopefully you were rocking one of your oh so stylish double breasted brown suits in the process. Rush has more listeners than these two have viewers combined. They could learn a few things from Rush.

You seem to miss that fact

You seem to miss that fact that it's not Dave's job to attack his "substance." Dave has no reason to be jealous of Rush.

I don't know.

Oh, I'd bet Dave would trade salaries and the ability to make himself the talk of the town, almost on command. Dave likes to fancy himself as an intouch "activist" type. But the point is, everyone in the media wants ratings and anaudience. Rush has both, and both are incredibly high.

As if we needed further

As if we needed further evidence that Letterman is a leftist fool, he offers commentary on someone's attire.  When Letterman was last funny, during the 1980's, he dressed in a suit or sports jacket and matching high top sneakers.  Evidently, when he turned 65, Letterman's mother advised him that it was time to give up the high tops while wearing a suit.

I watched Letterman up until..

he had Rush on as a guest on his new, at the time, show.  As I remember it, he called Rush a "gasbag".  First of all, a host who has class never insults his guest.  I decided from that moment on to never watch the Letterman show again and I haven't.  BTW, Jay Leno bent over backwards to be courteous to Rush the following week or whenever it was Rush appeared on his show.  Leno either has more class or is smarter than Letterman.  I vote both.  Jim Webster

LETTERman's...Junkmail

ENOUGH ALREADY...

D. Letterman has degenerated long-ago into junk-mail status. His delivery is both stale and predictable. The jaded-hipster sthick lost it's charm when his hairline began to retreat. The anger and smug presentation David's angry hippie truned into street-bum persona deserves no respect.

POSTAGE DUE...RETURN TO SENDER

___________________________ 

Long Live...THE REPUBLIC !

Dave v. Rush 1993

Letterman had Rush on his show waaaay back in the early 1990s, when Dave had just moved to CBS.  As I recall, Limbaugh was trying to be funny, and criticizing Hillary Clinton.  Then he put the ball on the tee by comparing her appearance in Vogue to a Pontiac hood ornament.

Letterman responded, "You know, you can say that because you are the finest-looking human specimen on the planet."

I don't think Limbaugh has been on a late night talk show since.  He does not like to be upstaged.

Obviously you don't know

Obviously you don't know what upstaged means.  It usually implies being bettered, bested, trumped.  Etc.

It's apparent you really meant that Rush does not like to be insulted by a vacuus, fatuous, troglodyte. 

Me - "The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years - the cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil."

Hey, Katie, Rush Limbaugh

Hey, Katie, Rush Limbaugh is fat and stupid looking! 

hahahahahahahahaha 

I’ve obviously been missing a load of fine humor by not staying up late for Letterman.

And liberals cry

And liberals cry about re-instituting the fairness doctrine.  Will it apply to television shows too?  Will guys like Letterman make a joke or two about Obama when they make one about a Republican?  Yeah right.

Letterman has been on a non-stop attack on Republican's and conservatives for a long time now.  No wonder they gave Leno the dream job of taking over for Johnny Carson back in the day.  Letterman is a jerk.

Not shedding a single

Not shedding a single tear.  No.  N/A.

Jer

It's annoying because a lot

It's annoying because a lot of moron Americans get all their current events from "comedy" shows.  We should be able to "pierce" the comedic veil that guys like Letterman hide under.  "Oh but they're just joking"!  Yeah right.

I never got Letterman nor

I never got Letterman nor Leno. I never thought they were funny and are two of the weirdest looking cats I've ever seen.

Now, Carson and McMahon on the other hand were funny and entertaining.

So, long story short, I don't feel a bit disappointed that Leno or Letterman are in lock-step with the Leftist MSM.

One of the 24% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 89% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.

Couric and Letterman...

...the Bevis and Butthead of late-night TV.

You'd think Letterman would

You'd think Letterman would approve of the East European look, seeing as how his president is a flat-out communist.

....says the guy who looks

....says the guy who looks like a dead, badly embalmed used car salesman from Des Moines.

Obama Amends The Constitution
Check out the poster @ Hollycrud checker-outers

Dave.....

David Letterman stopped being funny around 1986. I remember when his show was new in 1982 when I was in my second year in college...He was cutting edge back then. After about four years of the same routine, his act went from cutting edge to boring and predictable. I tuned in for a few minutes maybe a year ago, and the show was exactly the same as back in the '80's...He has devolved into a bitter and caustic old man. Maybe Carson knew all along that the guy was an unbalanced classless moonbat who couldn't shine Leno's shoes as far as class was concerned...You can toss him on the Jeaneane Garafalo dung heap. You know, where people who have stopped thinking objectively go when they are over with.

And Letterman is epitomy of

And Letterman is epitomy of the contented look of ignorance.

 

he ending up in the same

category as george carlin was near the end. older, bitter, saying really ugly and unlistenable things. how about that woman that used to break into his house (lettermans) in connecticut. i wiki'ed her she committed suicide some years ago. actually, all the dems look scared. the vaunted "first 100 days" are quickly coming to a close. economy...tanking, boh popularity...tanking. buyers remorse anyone...it's the 31st day of you warranty and the head gasket on  your dodge is leaking. that's right america,you bought a dodge instead of a toyota. something very cool about a car that starts all the time. from a mechanic

Hey I resent that

As the owner of 4 Dodges, the only head gastket I ever lost is the one on the Honda my Dad talked me into. 

What is your prediction for day 100, unemployment ? stocks? dept? getting scary!!

 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

i made a good living working on domestics

so i from whence i speak. none of the domestic makers really recovered from the '73 gas crisis imho. actually, it's more of a comment on the fact that you have to look at the systemic failure of wall street. it in someways mirrors what happened to domestic autos. as far as couric and letterman are concerned the real question is at what point does the msm realize the emperor has no clothes. then run for cover with "hey, we just report the news". that's when things will start looking up.

Is Letterman gay?

He looks gay.  Anyone know whether this is true or not?

"What you can not enforce, do not command" -Sophocles-

I am pretty sure he is

I am pretty sure he is married and has kids.

He's Not

He has a son but never married the mother.

True, but they DID construct

True, but they DID construct a lodge together.

Frankly

That doesn't surprise me.

Get over it

First, Limbaugh said he was just a commentator, not a politician...Letterman is a comedian...it is his gig to try and make fun.  I agree he is liberal in his leanings, but it is what he is paid to do.  How many times did he make fun of Bloomberg in the same show?

 I love Rush, have listened to him for years and year...but...when I saw the video my first thought was "What is he wearing."  He does look like something off the Sopranos.

 If you notice he did NOT attack anything that Rush said.

Get over it, this isn't worth stressing about.

If you notice he did NOT

If you notice he did NOT attack anything that Rush said.

No he didn't, but he did what dems always do. He attacked the messenger by calling him a "bonehead" and making fun of his appearance. He tried to trivialize the person therefore trivialize his message without attacking what he actually said (probably because he knew there was alot of truth in what Rush said).

Also it is hard for me to "get over it" because Letterman never attacks democrats. Look what he did to McCain. There was no treatment like that toward Obama (and don't tell me there wasn't plenty of furtile material he could have use).

Oh sure he made fun of Clinton, but how could any comedian refuse the material Clinton provided. Other than that, Letterman only goes after republicans, very rarely a democrat.

 

McCain attacks, yup

... and The Beav was second only to Olbermann in relentless, daily mocking of Palin.

SoL

Right, but I bet he had little to say about Biden, and Biden was (and still is) a gold mine of material.

Where does complaining stop

Where does complaining stop and whining begin? Seriously whats the difference between whining and complaining (in text forums such as this)? Is it "I complain, you whine"? There's a whole lot of complaining going on.

Beware of a crazy woman throwing a hash pipe.

Says the guy who delivered

Says the guy who delivered this nugget:

I want an "ok", that I can safely respond in kind to personal insults without having my account banned. I've seen numerous people call people obscene names an when someone with an opposing opinion replies in kind, out comes the "You've crossed the line! Your account is going to be banned!"  When I get a confirmation that responding to this drivel in kind won't lead to my account being banned, I'll show you how to insult someone. I have a feeling when the noise level from these personal attacks gets too great, dissenting opinions will be the first to go. 

Until then, you can read my opinions or not . I really don't care. I know every author is writing to a certain person or type of person when he pens something. Take my word Fritz, in my case its not you or anyone like you. I don't care what you think.

Oh, pardon me, that was neither complaining nor whining.  That was blubbering.  My mistake.  Carry on.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill

That wasn't whining, thats a fact

On Sunday morning I was being locked out of my account after a spitball fight with Blonde. At least one of my posts was deleted. Its not a whine, but I sense two tiers here, and I want to make sure I stay within the user agreement. Its ambiguous, as some of these personal attacks seem to be abusive language to me. But when my account starts being blocked for pointing out a poster personally attacking me, didn't connect the subject with the first sentence of a post,, and then that post is deleted, I suspect I'm on the precipice. Thats whats behind that comment. 

Beware of a crazy woman throwing a hash pipe.

Look, I can't speak to your

Look, I can't speak to your back-and-forth with Blonde.  I don't have any context for it, so it's not really any of my business.  The above response was directed at me, not Blonde.  But I don't think you do yourself any favors by first dropping tired blanket statements and claiming to embrace the torrent of abuse that's to come, then refusing to lay out specifics for your blanket charge(s) and finally claiming some kind of victimhood when the "flaming" you predict follows.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill

I am not going to have an uneven discussion with anyone

 I am not going to discuss something while you take personal shots at me, and I have to respond civily or be banned for abuse. You want to discuss something, be civil and I'll discuss it.

Beware of a crazy woman throwing a hash pipe.

Cut the straw man crap,

Cut the straw man crap, nwahs.  Nobody has been uncivil to you, and I think you know it.  The victim act is a bit tiresome...not to mention disingenuous.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill

I'm not playing victim

 I'm quite capable of dealing with the situation. Its not a straw man. This is an actual course of events that has changed the way I use this board. But you want to call it "a victim act" or "tiresome." Go right ahead without me.

Beware of a crazy woman throwing a hash pipe.

McCain

Don't use the McCain example...he really asked for it.  Cancelling an appearance by saying he had to go back to Washington urgently, then showing up with Couric no less on the nightly news at the same time.  McCain and his campaign blew that one big time.

I have had problems with Letterman and how one sided he has been at times.  I think his treatment of Palin was extremely unfair.  His "Great Moments in Presidential History" was a bit much.  And you are right, Biden especially should be fertile territory.  

That being said, my first response when I saw rush was what is he wearing as well.  Appearances can mean a lot...and what does black tend to represent...the bad guy.  It is something he should have thought of.  He set himself up for it.

Re appearance

To be honest, I have to agree on his appearance. His weight appears totally out of control, into heart attack territory. The black on black with pasty-white chest showing and slicked-down hair was a little too 80's disco look. It was apparently much too warm in the reception hall, but other speakers didn't dress down.

Still a fan though.

Typical

This is typical liberalism.  They cannot attack on the issues but have to attack personally.  Hey, Dave - bitten many apples through a picket fence lately?  See, we can do it too, but the facts are on our side so we dont have to resort to personal attacks.  I notice he didnt point out anywhere Rush is wrong.  Rush and his ideas will be around long after Dave is what was.

"I dont need to read a newspaper to know the world's been shaved by a drunken barber."

Walter Brennan, The Colonel, Meet John Doe, 1941

curic is looking old.  Is

curic is looking old.  Is she trying to become Helen Thomas?

when a liberal knows he/she can't win an argument

they resort to personal attacks.  the conservative most often victim of this tacky-tic is el rushbo, and the lame attempts at humor are either about his weight or his very public battle with pain pill addication.  it's predictable, tired and sad.

swing hard in case you hit it.

How to grow mushrooms don't listen, eat what you're fed

rsl775

I don’t believe most of Rush’s high profile critics even listen to him. It is possible to be put off by Rush’s style but the reasoning and facts behind what he says are hard to dispute. When he is expressing an opinion, of course, he is on the conservative side of the issue that is what he is all about: conservatism.

 I believe he is listened to only by the choir and those that are not members of the choir that listen are paid to find lines that can be taken out of context, misrepresented and framed as something else. This “something else” is then spread all over the MSM and their listeners, not part of Rush’s choir, buy what is said and never check it out. If they do go to listen to Rush they are turned off by his style before they have listened long enough to follow the real story.

I know many liberals and neutrals that do exactly this, dismiss him per what they heard from Katie, Brian, John or any other MSM who they regularly listen to but they have never listened to Rush for longer than the start of the first commercial break. I don’t believe Michael Steele ever listened to Rush’s program, maybe he doesn’t have time. Harry Reid never does, Pelosi never does, Obama never does but they do hear and believe the MSM passing on “something else” and express their outrage and call for muzzling the out of control person.

 

Yep you never hear them argue his principals

It is possible to be put off by Rush’s style but the reasoning and facts behind what he says are hard to dispute.

 That is why he is never contradicted, they are left whining about, out of context quotes, and referring to the wrong document when using a true reference. The old media is putting it in hyperdrive,

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

What is Rush's show about? trick question

Here's a trick question even some of my fellow Rightists might get wrong.  Nwahs is highly encouraged to play.

What is the Rush Limbaugh radio program about? 

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

Rush talking. 

Rush talking. 

(BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ)

Wrong.   

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

Potato, potahto

Potato, potahto

Thank you for playing balboa!!!

balboa, don't be bitter.  We have parting gifts for our contestants!

(psst, correct answer below) 

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

Rush.

Rush.

Jer

Thank you for playing

Wrong. 

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

The pleasure was all mine,

The pleasure was all mine, Unsane...

Do I get a parting gift too?  Maybe a black shirt like the one Rush wore at CPAC?  I liked it.  Really.

Jer

 

Rush's show

is about giving a voice to the millions of coservatives that had none in the media until he came along. His show is a bulwharck against the media liberal bias.

That's what makes the comments by NWAHS and the other liberal posters so disingenous. He is not leading the GOP. He is following us. He is saying what we are thinking. 

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

What the Rush Limbaugh show is about

 The Rush Limbaugh show is simpler than that.

The Rush Limbaugh program is about whatever Rush wants it to be about.  Yes, much of the time he talks politics.  But the really awesome thing about his show is the fact that his interests lie in so many different spheres he can go anywhere at any moment. 

For instance, how many times has he spent up to a half hour talking about cigars? 

And BECAUSE of that wide range of interests, he can personally connect with millions in his audience.  Not to mention the methods he uses in connecting with his audience when discussing politics, for instance: the parodies, various gags, and other attention getters.

Ultimately, he is successful as well for the ultimate reason of all: this isn't a job to him.  Rush loves radio.  It is his passion.  It's HIS OBSESSIVE DEVOTION.  How many times has he told us how much he hated school, that it was a prison to him, that he knew that he wanted to be on the radio as soon as he heard the radio playing on mornings when he was on his way to school? 

It's really not all that hard to figure out.  Easier for the conservatives and those in his audience; harder, if not impossible, for the Leftists.    

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

So I was right.

So I was right.

Jer

Um, NO!

I was thinking of giving you a parting gift.  But no.

Your response to my question was "Rush".  Which tells me it is all about HIM and not about topics he wishes to discuss.  There is a difference. 

Not only am I the judge, I am the court of appeal.  Doesn't life suck?  :-) 

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

Rush's show is about giving

Rush's show is about giving a voice to the millions of coservatives that had none in the media until he came along....He is not leading the GOP. He is following us. He is saying what we are thinking. 

Well, it appears to me Rush is the leader of the parade who calls the tunes and provides the marching orders.  And those who get out of step either apologize or are dismissed.

That said, your sentiments would make a wonderful Capra movie, if he were still around.  However, Unsane does have a nice parting gift for you.

Jer

Jer,

I'm sorry, but who in the media was saying what conservatives were thinking before Rush came along? 

And, the 0 can unleash his hounds when he feels someone is out of line, but Rush can't? Rush doesn't have to sic his listeners on anybody. They go willingly and without being told, or have I missed the morning liasons Rush has with the media? 

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

→ Actually

Wasn't it Paul Harvey, Bill Buckley, Ronald Reagan? 

Obama - Change you can bereave in

Well, Restless, to name

Well, Restless, to name just one, I thought Bill Buckley was doing a pretty good job--but without the bombast and unseemly mockery.

Jer

edit:  Just noticed Cool named two more.

I don't mind the bombast

I don't mind the bombast and mockery. It's part of what makes him entertaining, catering to the liberal caricature of conservatives. 

Besides, the left is so good at dishing it out, you would think they would have thicker skins. It all boils down to the fact that they can't stand on their principles, so they have to shout him down, demonize him, and by association, marginalize and silence conservative thought, lest the ignorant masses get a clue. 

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

Jer,

Really?

Bill Buckley was from the old school...and from the old media.  I can't really even think of the last time I saw him on television.   Before the media tributes after his death.

I know you are from the other side of the aisle, but, seriously Jer, have you ever once listened to an entire Rush broadcast?

If I'm wrong about that, you have my apologies in advance. 

And if I'm right, I'd love to send you my password for his site....if you promise to listen to the whole show, and then get back to us.

Regards.

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

Absolutely, Blonde...

Absolutely, Blonde...

Firing Line was still being aired well after Rush's show was first nationally syndicated.  Buckley was also penning columns, publishing the National Review, and writing books.

No need to apologize.  I did listen to Rush fairly extensively during the 90's, but I doubt seriously I ever listened to every minute of an entire three-hour show.  Just don't have the patience, persistence, or attention span for that--no matter who's talking, or whether I agree or disagree with the speaker.  In recent years, I only occasionally tune in, but I do read transcripts and watch recorded video segments (including every minute of his CPAC address--twice!)

If there is a particular show you would like for me to listen to, I'll be more than happy to.  If it's simply that you don't believe I have a proper understanding of the man and his message, it's probably not necessary unless he has changed dramatically in tone and content.  I have never contended, nor would I even imply Rush isn't smart, knowledgeable, well-spoken, or is devoid of principles.  His unparalleled success in his medium is obvious and remarkable.  However, I have suggested, and continue to believe, his rhetoric is frequently reckless, prone to exaggeration, factual clumsiness, and outright distortion.  Moreover, it is occasionally insensitive and deliberately divisive; and--perhaps my essential point--it generally retards rather than advances productive dialogue.

Jer

Jer,

I wish you would listen to his current shows.  It surprises me not that you've listened before.

But, since I understand why...I'd only ask you to listen to maybe an hour....I don't want to kill you, after all, :D

Really and truly, his RHETORIC isn't what a liberal or a democrat would think....and he does go a little over the top....but only to make people understand how destructive the policies of Obama are.

Truly, Jer....I don't believe Rush is anywhere as near as "divisive" as those on the left believe he is...if they'd only listen for themselves, instead of reading and slurping the talking points.

Having said that....I'd consider it a personal favor if you'd listen to him for an hour sometime....and give me your feedback....as someone on the "other side"....is he really that incendiary?

Thanks, Jer.

 

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

Blonde...

I'd consider it a personal favor if you'd listen to him for an hour sometime....and give me your feedback....as someone on the "other side"....is he really that incendiary?

It's a deal.

Jer

Thanks Jer.

I'm an insomniac, but I have to try to get some sleep.

Manana.

 

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

Wait Blonde... Pick one

Wait Blonde...

Pick one of the following numbers:  9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 16, 17, 18, 19, or 20

Then pick one of the following numbers: 1, 2, or 3

Jer

letterman

What a bitter old t.v. weatherman he has become.  He's probably jealous that Rush's audience is larger, he makes more dough, and Leno get's to work earlier in the evening.  What a punk.

If you are going to make a point get your facts straight

Your last point about working earlier in the evening....Letterman is taped at 6:00 p.m. eastern time.  I don't think he is too worried about working later than Jay.

 

WHAT A GREAT COUNTRY AMERICA IS!!!!!!

ONLY IN AMERICA CAN YOU HAVE TWO MORONS WITH NO TALENT OR PERSONALITY BE ON TV TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME!!!!!!  I LOVE AMERICA!!!!

"What you can not enforce, do not command" -Sophocles-

David

No, Rush chose the outfit of the Leftwing liberal twits in Hollyweird. Take a look sometime at an art show or the opening night of a picture. All of the "cultured cogniscenti" are wearing black!

Two points on Katie Cupcake

I notice that Katie Cupcake wore a skirt for this event.

One, she has 52 year old legs.  She is way past her prime.  She can feel free to cover up.

Which leads me to point #2: you would thank she wants to hide those carpet burns and blisters on her knees... 

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

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