NPR's Nina Totenberg revealed Friday, not surprisingly, that she was enchanted by President Barack Obama's address earlier in the week to a joint session of Congress. “It made me feel pretty good. I thought it was a great speech,” she enthused before relaying a contrast with former President George W. Bush: “A friend of mine said, 'oh my God, we have a President again!'” Totenberg added that “in some ways, that's not fair to Bush,” but she insisted: “That's the way you felt. You felt this was a guy who was totally in charge.”
Totenberg quoted her friend immediately after Newsweek's Evan Thomas trumpeted on Inside Washington: “He looked like he belonged there unlike President Bush who sometimes seemed like 'what is this guy doing there?' even if you like him, 'he really doesn't belong.' He showed natural leadership and that alone made a big difference.”
Totenberg's full quote:
You know, a friend of mine said, “oh my God, we have a President again!” Now, in some ways, that's not fair to Bush, but that's the way you felt. You felt this was a guy who was totally in charge.
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Oh my goodness we have journalists again!
February 27, 2009 - 22:07 ET by katainkentJust practicing... in case it ever happens.
*holds breath*
Crack!
February 28, 2009 - 06:46 ET by JWFIt's going back back back. It's out of the park!
Good one
February 28, 2009 - 08:51 ET by superconsnicker
Because with a name like Obama... you know it has to be good.
Actually, they're still
February 28, 2009 - 08:50 ET by JerryActually, they're still cheerleaders. The only difference is their team is winning now.
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
Actually, we've still got journalists/reporters, but . . .
February 28, 2009 - 15:57 ET by CKA in Red State USA. . .none of them work for the print or broadcast advocacy/adversary media in national and regional outlets.
Nor do they work in very many local outlets.
Thats his goal, to be
February 27, 2009 - 22:08 ET by Dan DiegoThats his goal, to be "totally in charge" of America and these idiots are blindly assisting.
Now all she needs
February 27, 2009 - 22:22 ET by 10ksnookerIs an audience
Obama's a guy in charge??? In charge of what???
February 27, 2009 - 22:36 ET by PrairieSky"You know, a friend of mine said, “oh my God, we have a President again!” Now, in some ways, that's not fair to Bush, but that's the way you felt. You felt this was a guy who was totally in charge."
In charge of what? Running up the nations' debt to astronomical levels? In charge of bankrupting the government and the country? In charge of slowly but surely turning the US into a socialist nanny state? In charge of not being able to find people for his cabinet who aren't tax cheats? In charge of repeatedly lying to the naive American people who foolishly voted him into office? Yep, Nina...You're right...This is a guy who's "in charge" all right...
Oh, give me a break...
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan~ January 20, 1981
→ Obama in charge
February 27, 2009 - 22:39 ET by Cool ArrowI DVRd a show tonight "Flashpoint"
What's it about? Three homeless guys holding hostage a real estate mogul because they lost their homes.
Unbelievable, these "victims" are all white.
Must have been filmed before Obama took over and saved all these "victims".
Media is really pushing for this kind of fireworks.
We won the cold war! Why did we surrender?
Cool...No doubt the show was filmed...
February 27, 2009 - 22:46 ET by PrairieSkybefore Obamessiah swooped in and "saved" us all...Otherwise, the "victims" would all be singing "The One's" praises...
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan~ January 20, 1981
Re Cold War
February 27, 2009 - 23:02 ET by slickwillie2001Imagine that; Barney Frank's -"we muth haf afforbable houthing" accomplished what the Soviet Red Army could not.
→ Thanks, slick
February 27, 2009 - 23:12 ET by Cool ArrowThat tagline hit me while I was talking with my wife today about our country's direction.
In addition, it struck me that when I think of Obama, I recall the last words of Jesus to Judas:
"What you do, do quickly" And Obama went out into the night.
We won the cold war! Why did we surrender?
Despair
February 27, 2009 - 22:37 ET by slickwillie2001I'm sure these same things, in fact word for word, were said about Adolf Hitler in 1933, and every popular dictator since. Dick Morris was talking today about how FDR didn't come close to deserving reelection, but he had 'mesmerized' (his word) Americans into voting for him again and again, even though he accomplished very little.
What is it with these liberals? The Liar-in-Chief is a good talker and some think he looks good at a podium, so let's follow him off the cliff?
→ Thief-In-Chief
February 27, 2009 - 22:42 ET by Cool ArrowRight now, we're snookered.
We've got maybe a year before we're stuck with a 15 year hole.
We won the cold war! Why did we surrender?
Slickwillie2001
February 28, 2009 - 11:45 ET by ahusserThere was a good show on FDR on the History Channel, a two parter. A little leftward bias but it is overlookable. The war saved his butt (Saved Stalin's butt too). He should not have run in 44 as he was very sick but he was in denial and his ego wouldn't let him step down. He gave up his very lefty commie VP Wallace for Truman but never briefed him on the Manhattan Project and other important wartime matters. Most of his programs were failures and unemployment stayed near 20 plus per cent during his first and into his second term culminating in the 2nd depression of 1937.
"Somehow, I told you so, just doesn't quite say it." Will Smith in 'I, Robot.'
History Channel
February 28, 2009 - 13:37 ET by slickwillie2001Missed that one. I have seen book reviews on weekend BookTV (an addiction) on several FDR books however, and more and more, historians are taking a new look at FDR. He will still be idolized by generations of liberals though; the brainwashing is just that thorough. Some of the things that FDR did make Dick Cheney look like Mother Theresa. It's really odd how the public perception of fascism has flipped; in the thirties it was seen as a new 'third way' by FDR and many liberals in the West. Liberal propaganda has had its effect since, and now fascism is associated with the right.
whether fdr's new deal ended the depression
February 28, 2009 - 15:46 ET by puredmashieor if it was the industrialization required to fight ww2 will be debated by conservatives and liberals until all the oxygen is sucked out of the room. however, fdr was a great leader of men at a time that we needed such a man. that point has to be accepted by both sides.
swing hard in case you hit it.
Leadership Skills?
February 28, 2009 - 16:11 ET by slickwillie2001If simply 'leadership skills' is your only measure of worth, irrespective of philosophy or actual results, then sure, FDR was a 'great leader of men'. But then so was Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Castro, etc. Let's set our standards for Presidential measure a little higher.
What's with libs? It's all about style because they're too...
February 28, 2009 - 16:00 ET by CKA in Red State USA. . .shallow intellectually and morally to understand that substance always wins out.
Too, they're looking always for the Sugar Daddy and Sugar Mommy--and they found both in Nanny-in-Chief, Hysteric-in-Chief, Doomsayer-in-Chief Barack Obama.
I would think cool, that is
February 27, 2009 - 23:29 ET by ConservativeRexI would think cool, that is is a decades long hole. This cat sold us down the river just to keep getting elected. Not surprising coming from a democrat.
The question remains, what next? How long before we say enough is enough. If democrats say they too are Americans they have to be a little worried about what they see this fella doing to our country.
That is what is going to take. a few democrats to stand up, for once and say "you can not keep doing this Obama". There is none in this current crop of anti-american democrats to stand up to this facist, but maybe soon one will.
"Obama lied and our 401's died"
Delenda est Washington
→ Reagan Democrats?
February 27, 2009 - 23:36 ET by Cool ArrowMaybe there's hope after all. Real hope.
I've been under a cloud believing all Dems are following obediently. But their real beliefs are in their own personal pocketbooks.
We've noticed it only takes a few well chosen words from Obama to send the market on a slide. There's no reason to believe all Democrats crave personal poverty.
You've made my day.
We won the cold war! Why did we surrender?
Cool,
February 28, 2009 - 16:03 ET by R D HelmThere used to be a core of moderate to conservative dems in congress who tended to keep the far-left kook fringe pretty much in check. The problem is, they are all gone now.
Our only hope in the congressional arena may just rest with some of those moderate dems who were elected to congress last November that I read about just after the election, and who are nowhere near as far out in left field as is Obama.
Let's hope they start to catch on to what is happening, before its too late.
-Dave
Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.
I just wish that once and
February 27, 2009 - 23:43 ET by Morgan StevensI just wish that once and for all, somebody in the drive by media would stand up to this old, 60's leftover, liberal, National Proletariat Radio, Jew and tell her to shut up and go away. Nobody gives a damn what what Nina Totenberg has to say. Nina, go back to PBS (the Peoples Boshevik Service) with all your other 60's leftover,liberal, idiot friends and shut the 'f' up you annoying jackass.
anti-Semitic bile
February 28, 2009 - 01:10 ET by JerThere are plenty of internet hate sites which would welcome your anti-Semitic bile. How about checking them out and not bother coming back here.
Jer
Jer... Would you still be
February 28, 2009 - 01:19 ET by Clear thinkerJer...
Would you still be complaining if they had not used the word Jew?
Obama Objects To Abortion Rule
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C t...Nope.
February 28, 2009 - 01:23 ET by JerNope.
Jer
Morgan
February 28, 2009 - 18:06 ET by Noel SheppardMorgan,
I, too, find your Jewish reference offensive. Please steer clear of such in the future. ns
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.....
February 28, 2009 - 00:00 ET by jondelwicheBudget busting, stock market crashing, lying about troop withdrawals (50K=gone?),doesnt pay for Chicago party, cant fill his cabinet, no bipartisan support.
Wow! And it's only been a month.
Hard to believe.
No you stupid dolt, we have
February 28, 2009 - 00:58 ET by Clear thinkerNo you stupid dolt, we have a Marxist president. Something this country has never seen before.
Obama Objects To Abortion Rule
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Yes, we now have a president
February 28, 2009 - 00:59 ET by snaggletoothieYes, we now have a president who is leading the way in finding tax cheats, the ethically challenged and doctrinaire lefties to be his major advisores and cabinet secretaries. Now that's leadership.
You might call it
February 28, 2009 - 01:17 ET by Clear thinkerYou might call it "leadership", I tend to call it "bullshit".
In case you are wondering.... I gag everytime I hear Obama's voice, so the answer is yes, I despise this man.
Obama Objects To Abortion Rule
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CT
February 28, 2009 - 05:50 ET by USA4freedomCT
every time I hear his voice I think of my dad and some of his lines.
A few Dad lines: usually starts off with: "that boy”: Doesn’t know shit from shinola, or his arse from a hole in the ground or my old personal favorite "doesn't know whether to scratch his watch or wind his ass"
All laughing aside, these are desperate times. I am truly worried.
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
Gagging when you heard BHO's voice? Me, too . . .
February 28, 2009 - 16:03 ET by CKA in Red State USAIt's been that way since he first started campaigning years ago.
Even when I heard him speak through the televised speech he gae at the 2004 Democrat convention, it made me ill.
But he's mesmerized the populace, like the Pied Piper of Hamelin.
Wonder what Nina will say
February 28, 2009 - 07:07 ET by TheHistorianwhen she feels the glorious feeling of Obama's hand in her wallet up to the elbow?
Could these people possibly
February 28, 2009 - 09:08 ET by JerryCould these people possibly be any more shallow? Judge a man by what he says, not what he does? Good grief!
Unfortunately this mindset has existed since the world was created. Eve knew he looked like a snake and acted like a snake, but she was moved by his words, and Adam wussfully went along. Classic liberalism.
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
"Could these people possibly be more shallow?"
February 28, 2009 - 16:05 ET by CKA in Red State USAI keep thinking that, no, they can't.
And then I read something like this story.
We've seen or heard nothing yet -- nothing -- given that His Hope-and-Change-ness has been in office only about five weeks.
C T and worry
February 28, 2009 - 09:11 ET by burtonrobsonMe TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
MOOOOOOOOOO
February 28, 2009 - 09:19 ET by nadadhimmiI've listened to NPR for years and Totenberg has always been a stupid, sycophant, bovine. With a huge, fat ass I might add.
NPR Nina Totenberg's sure
February 28, 2009 - 10:17 ET by TN MomNPR Nina Totenberg's sure runs with a strange crowd!!! The speach contained at least nine lies. Pure Lies. Pure stagecraft that looked like a State of the Union speech. Ha! Obama sures likes his bully pulpit..
oh my God, we have a President again
A president who has only filled 70 of the 500 jobs of WH staff. Has yet to find a Commerece Sec, has cost the market to spiral downward.
A president who gave an WH office to ACORN even though they are under invistagation for voter election fraud in 17 states.
A president who says 'no more earmarks' yet his new $410 Billion spending bill contains HIS OWN EARMARKS (he had his name removed, but has left the earmarks-how's that for cheating!)
USA4freedom
February 28, 2009 - 11:00 ET by jacktheripperwe must have been seperated @ birth....I can hear my Dad's voice through your words
Imagine how ecstatic Nina
February 28, 2009 - 10:58 ET by needleImagine how ecstatic Nina will be when Obama starts setting up concentration camps for Christians and Conservatives.
For all we know of this thoroughly non-vetted Chicago politician that indeed may be subtly the effective purpose of his plans for the 2010 census and the redistricting manipulations that ensue.
Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.
Another alleged reporter
February 28, 2009 - 11:34 ET by pitter43Another alleged reporter with chills running up her leg every time obama makes a sound.
As usual, it's all about
February 28, 2009 - 11:51 ET by KevroyAs usual, it's all about 'feelings' with the libtards. They 'felt' it. Therefor it must be so.
Conservatives believe it when they see it. Liberals believe it when they believe it...
The same people
February 28, 2009 - 12:31 ET by KC MulvilleThe same people
Without any reflection at all, they insist that we must all be patriots now and support the president!
No. This country wasn't designed for citizens to cheerlead any person. Support the policies that are in your own best interest, and leave it at that.
KC...What "same" people?
February 28, 2009 - 17:28 ET by Jera.) There's something objectionable about wanting Americans to be patriotic?
b.) Can you name me a single politician or prominent media member who, upon the day of Bush's inauguration in 2001, announced that he/she "wanted him to fail"? Or said that--or something similar--on 9/11 and the launching of the GWOT? Maybe there was, but I don't recall it. I'd be interested in learning the identity of such person.
Jer
Jer, the aggregate of
February 28, 2009 - 18:18 ET by PeskyDaneJer, the aggregate of Obama's proposals add up to more federal spending than the entire period starting from 1776 through his inaguration.
Let me appeal to the patriotism you mentioned: Why don't you want him to fail?
Further, there's no need to find a quote. This site has relentlessly chronicled the psychosis level efforts working for the failure of this country through the failure of President Bush for a number of years. Actions speak louder than words. One of the first steps to curing yourself of liberalism is to realize that words do not carry the same weight as actions.
Hey Pesky!
February 28, 2009 - 18:26 ET by BlondeNicely done.
I hope he fails, too.
Well, Pesky, let me say
February 28, 2009 - 18:33 ET by JerWell, Pesky, let me say this out front [and then I'll try to link some brief remarks by Republican governor, Terry Sanford, which echo my thoughts on the subject]: There are a number of problems I have with contemporary liberalism, but I consider neither it, nor conservatism, diseases to be "cured".
Jer
Jer, opinion respectfully
February 28, 2009 - 19:31 ET by PeskyDaneJer, opinion respectfully noted. So, given the size of the spending and debt that Obama is proposing, do you hope he succeeds?
Do I hope he succeeds?
February 28, 2009 - 20:11 ET by JerDo I hope he succeeds? Absolutely. Does it mean I have no concerns about the administration's approach. Of course not. We're in largely uncharted waters, and there are elements of the stimulus and bailout packages which are troubling.
Frankly, I'm very upset with both the Democratic and Republican leadership in the House (particularly). I don't believe the latter were truly interested in bi-partisanship, but Pelosi and company were foolish to summarily shut them out and write the original bill by themselves.
Jer
→ Success
February 28, 2009 - 20:30 ET by Cool ArrowWhat if his measure of success is to redistribute your wealth?
What if his measure of success is to bring down the industry that employs you?
What if his measure of success is the further addiction of Americans to entitlements?
Are you 100% sure you want him to be 100% successful according to his own personal goals?
I guarantee you I wanted George Bush to fail with his open borders policy, but he was successful.
A guarantee you I wanted George Bush to fail with his $700 billion Bailout, but he was successful.
I'm just saying you might want to be more specific with your idea of Obama's success. He's very specific, but many refuse to believe he means it.
We won the cold war! Why did we surrender?
"Failure"
February 28, 2009 - 20:55 ET by JerI don't recall you or anyone else here ever saying "I want Bush to fail". There may have been disagreements with his policies, but not an investment in his personal failure. Many opposed his policies in Iraq (and had their patriotism attacked for doing so). I had doubts about the wisdom of the surge, but I never said "I hope he fails" and never secretly yearned for our defeat.
To be sure, Obama's "failure" would inure to the benefit of Republicans. It would also mean that tens of millions of Americans will have suffered enormous financial hardships.
Jer
→ Jer
February 28, 2009 - 21:08 ET by Cool ArrowThe morning of the vote, I was commiserating with none other than PopTech about the foolishness of the bailout.
PT said (expletive) I'm outta here, and wasn't seen for a couple of weeks following. I don't remember if my comments were deleted along with PT's but I was certainly despondant about it at the time of the vote and before it also.
I didn't save the thread, but I'm sure you could google the date of the vote and find the open thread of that day.
We won the cold war! Why did we surrender?
Cool...
February 28, 2009 - 21:23 ET by JerThat was during my NB sabbatical, but I'll take your word for it.
Jer
~NB sabbatical
February 28, 2009 - 21:32 ET by choselife3xI hear Betty Ford is lovely that time of year. :-O
Hope and Change=
Despair and Socialism
I was heavily sedated and
February 28, 2009 - 21:44 ET by JerI was heavily sedated and sequestered in a special ward for liberals who have been verbally but mercilessly pummeled by conservatives for a year or more.
Jer
~Ya told us ya liked it rough
February 28, 2009 - 21:49 ET by choselife3xAnd here ya are, back again. Bit of a masochist, huh?
Stay right there, I'll go get my boots.
Hope and Change=
Despair and Socialism
Hurry! I've been very
February 28, 2009 - 21:57 ET by JerHurry! I've been very bad, lately. Said lots of nice things about The One.
Jer
Hey there BFF!
February 28, 2009 - 21:58 ET by sherylsimsHow ya been? I haven't been here too much so I have missed your lovely posts. I have a lot of "catch up" reading to do now (I will skim past all the really long posts)
~I've been tormenting trolls
February 28, 2009 - 22:05 ET by choselife3xAnd playing with Jer.
Was that your picture in the link I e-mailed you?
Hope and Change=
Despair and Socialism
cl3 has that backwards, sheryl...
February 28, 2009 - 22:18 ET by Jercl3 has that backwards, sheryl...
She's been playing with trolls, and tormenting me.
Jer
~~ It wasn't
February 28, 2009 - 22:25 ET by sherylsimsIt wasn't me, but I did make the sign. I also made the one that said "Steal our children's future??? No we can't" (Two pictures down from that one.) I made several extra signs and handed them out to people who didn't have any. I got left with the K-Y one and that is probably why I ended up on the cutting room floor. After the news editor called someone and found out what K-Y was for he said, "Noooooo" and opted not to show my BEST sign!
~That was neat
February 28, 2009 - 22:31 ET by choselife3xMaybe they'll catch on.
You heard it here first, folks. *preening*
Hope and Change=
Despair and Socialism
~Now now, Jer
February 28, 2009 - 22:27 ET by choselife3xStop brag, uh, complaining to sheryl.
Hope and Change=
Despair and Socialism
PeskyDane re Limbaugh and hoping Obama fails
February 28, 2009 - 20:01 ET by JerPeskyDane...
Here are a couple of items containing remarks by Pat Robertson and Terry Sanford which are pertinent:
Quoting Sanford...
...as an American, I absolutely want you [Obama]to succeed . And therefore, as an American who wants you to succeed because we're all in this boat together it's incumbent upon me, if I think an idea is a bad idea, even though I don't want to disagree, to lay it out....
I don't want him to fail. Anybody who wants him to fail is an idiot, because it means we're all in trouble. But I do think, in that same vein...if you've looked at the pages of economic data that I've looked at over a long period of time....and you legitimately think that something ain't going to work, you'd be cheating him and cheating yourself if you didn't lay it out and call an ace an ace in terms of where you're coming from. [My emphasis in bold]
In my view, the foregoing is an example of principled opposition, whereas Limbaugh's tactics are personalized, partisan, counterproductive obstructionism.
Jer
Well, Jer...I guess you think I'm an idiot
February 28, 2009 - 20:23 ET by BlondeI know "we're all in trouble".
But I choose to believe that the way out of this trouble isn't to spend our children and grandchildren into the ground.
Why on earth would this (hyper-active spending) succeed, when it never has in the past?
Obama's "approach" to this so-called crisis is to spend us into the grave....he's committed more funding in his first thirty days in office than the United States of America has spent since its inception. It's idiocy! Pure and simple.
As for your assertion that Rush's tactics are personalized, partisan, and counterproductive obstructionism....HOGWASH. He's spot on, and unlike the rest of the (Holder) cowards.....Rush is willing to call a spade a spade. And so am I.
I hope he fails, too.
Blonde...
February 28, 2009 - 20:34 ET by JerOf course I don't. Besides, those are [conservative governor] Sanford's words--not mine.
Let me ask you this: When George Bush proposed the first bailout plan last September, was your reaction "I hope Bush fails"?
Jer
Actually, Jer....
February 28, 2009 - 20:46 ET by BlondeMy first thought ran more along the lines of "has he lost his freakin' mind"?
So....I suppose even though those were not my exact words, I'd have to answer yes, "I hoped Bush would fail" on the TARP 1 or whatever its name is now. In fact, I wrote multipe e-mails to my reps, senators (oh what a total waste of time) and to John Boehner, as well as to McRino (dumbass...he lost the election because of that, IMO).
People (like McC) can call themselves conservative all they'd like to.....but those of us who actually are conservative know the difference.
Having said that tho, Jer....it's really pleasant to encounter honest people like you who don't come here and claim it falsely.
I hope he fails, too.
exactly
February 28, 2009 - 21:08 ET by katainkentnot much more to add here.
Blonde, totally with you on
February 28, 2009 - 22:46 ET by PeskyDaneBlonde, totally with you on this. Why must government always "do something?" Talk to us like we're adults.
I know he took A LOT of arrows breaking the ground in the new war for future presidents, but it would have been nice if W has just one more round in the chamber. Could you imagine any president getting on the tube and saying something like, "given the degree to which the federal government is responsible for the home mortgage crisis, any solution we come up could only put this problem on steroids."
IM never to be HO, I just don't think he had any capacity left to take anymore crap from the likes of Stretch Pelosi and company, not to mention the brigades of news producers, pundits, and editors and writers with barrels of ink at their disposal.
If BJC had taken just a fraction of what W had to endure for the last 8 years, he would have flipped us all the bird as he boarded Marine One for the last time. Fortunately or unfortunately - I can't make up my mind, W just has too much class.
LOL, Pesky
February 28, 2009 - 22:59 ET by BlondeThe whole thing has me NUTSO!
But....I love you!!! You had me laughing at....."IM never to be HO".
Made my day, you did!
As for Marine One, Pesky.....it will never be the same....Barry scared the crap out of that poor Marine by shaking his hand. Que'lle Maroon!
And I'll leave you with that lovely thought about my feelings for The One.
I hope he fails, too.
Jer, I wish Bush was honest with the American People..
February 28, 2009 - 20:55 ET by upcountrywaterTo bad Bush did'nt say something like this, within 24 hours:
In September the banking system in America, came under attack, In 1/2 hour we had 500 billion sucked out of the US banking system.
We had to shut it down. If we did not shut off the flow of cash(?) we would be down by 5.5 TRILLION bucks by days end.
This 650 Billion is going to the banks to cover what the Banking Queen and his pet CRA's did to them.
I have never been fond of the Bush spending programs. Democrat lite.
In 20/20 hind sight, Bush cudda shudda done NOTHING.
pURPLe pINKy
Time will tell, ucw... It
February 28, 2009 - 21:18 ET by JerTime will tell, ucw...
It may be that one day historians and economists will look back and conclude that doing nothing would have been better than commiting enormous sums in what is perhaps the most problematic financial gamble in American history. The consensus, thus far, appears to be that doing something was and is demonstrably better than doing nothing--with the questions relating only to the size and direction of that "something". The consensus will likely change in accordance with the progress made, or lack thereof, in improving current economic woes.
But, I'm bothered by the notion of hoping for failure because one dislikes the President--whether it's Bush or Obama--and because a setback of any kind would make him look bad and damage him personally and politically.
Jer
no true american wants a u.s. president to fail...
February 28, 2009 - 21:38 ET by clinging to my guns and my religion...but no true american wants a socialist to succeed.
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle." Edmund Burke
~AMEN Clinging!!
February 28, 2009 - 21:44 ET by choselife3xHope and Change=
Despair and Socialism
No true American wants a
February 28, 2009 - 22:57 ET by NL207No true American wants a foreign citizen to be his or her President, yet that is exactly what we have. No true American wants Obama to succeed, because he is an anti-American. He is the enemy of every principal this country was founded upon.
exactly, nl!
March 1, 2009 - 07:57 ET by clinging to my guns and my religionhad i been able to in the heading, i would have italicized "u.s." for emphasis. he is no more a "u.s." president than i am the queen of england! hope it was understood that he is the "socialist" to whom i was referring!!
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle." Edmund Burke
Jer....
February 28, 2009 - 21:58 ET by BlondeThat's the problem with leading by consensus.
Rather than leading by principles.
Too bad. It's too late for us, we are all royally screwed.
The Bamster has effectively relegated us to a third world economy. Fortunately, I'm one of those who had the foresight to see what is happening.
I hope he fails, too.
Blonde, I can't help but
February 28, 2009 - 22:29 ET by PeskyDaneBlonde, I can't help but think that Jer is well meaning in this.
When he says that he hopes Obama succeeds, I believe he means that he hopes that Obama leads us to further prosperity. Sure, I get that.
Unfortunately, to the Syphilitic Marxists, success for Obama is defined by simply enacting the redistributionist policies which will put us in debt for a few centuries. This will result in the Marxist goal of equal misery across the board (except for those who have already made their pile and have everything in tax-free municipals).
Yeah, change we can all get behind.
Exactly, Pesky
February 28, 2009 - 22:41 ET by BlondeSocialism, to me, is defined as the equality of misery.
I certainly "hope" this stupid stimulus works....but I know for a fact it won't. It never has....but only liberals believe in doing the same unsuccessful thing, over and over again...however, with "new" people in charge.... it will finally SUCCEED! Riiiight.
I am so glad I don't have any children. Trust me. I'm mad now, but if I knew my kids and grandchildren would have to pay for this fiasco....well, suffice it to say....I'm not as mad as I could be.
I hope he fails, too.
It may be that one day
February 28, 2009 - 22:15 ET by PeskyDaneIt may be that one day historians and economists will look back and conclude that doing nothing would have been better than commiting enormous sums in what is perhaps the most problematic financial gamble in American history.
That has already happened regarding Social Security. The biggest Ponzi Scheme in the history of our country. Virtually all economists (except perhaps the delusional Paul Krugman) admit that Roosevelt's policies have put us on a path to insolvency. The current structure of our welfare state is unsustainable.
Roosevelt and Johnson fed us some bad hotdogs. They've been gurgling in our system, undigested for half a century. Now, just as were about to spew them out, Obama comes along and says, "I know! What you need is more hotdogs!" Yes, a brilliant solution. Let's force them down our collective throat.
Thank you, no. Hope you don't mind if I back away from that Kool-aide stand.
Jer, for some reason I think you get this and are ready to come away from the dark side.
Jer, What a time we live in, eh, Age of Credit, age of Oil.
February 28, 2009 - 22:22 ET by upcountrywaterThe government in the 1930's had actual cash in the Treasury.. to build some dams and bridges N' stuff
We today have credit..
Government sanctioned Ponzi scheme.
Much bigger than Madoffs, pesky 50 billion.
Maybe Obama will sell off Hawaii. for $ 50 Trillion.
MSM will then compare him to, opps tell us he's like Thomas Jefferson doing this:
Yea I'm bothered by the bias in the MSM. I want crummy plans to fail, not the person.
pURPLe pINKy
→ Jer
February 28, 2009 - 21:03 ET by Cool Arrowwas your reaction "I hope Bush fails"?
As I indicated minutes ago, yes, that's exactly what I wanted.
As I indicated at the time, my opinion was that John McCain should indeed suspend his campaign and stand alone against the bailout, if need be and point to the Bush/Obama twosome saying "Now who's four more years of Bush"
Of course I wanted Bush to fail.
We won the cold war! Why did we surrender?
Jer
February 28, 2009 - 22:40 ET by KC MulvilleYou know, sometimes I write responses to posts, as if to put bait in the water. I'm sure everyone else does that, to some degree. You write something, hoping to get a nibble of an argument. You check back a couple times, and if no one responds, you figure, OK, no one's interested, so move onto the next topic. This one, I checked back after I wrote it, and no one had responded. No big deal. But now I see a bunch of responses! Sorry I didn't respond earlier.
Both of your questions, Jer, have the same hidden premise: namely, that the political agenda of a president is equivalent to the welfare of the country. They're not. I can comfortably support the country while opposing the president's political agenda.
My desire for the country to succeed doesn't mean that I have to support Obama's policies, especially when I think they are horribly misguided. Don't ask me to support policies that I think will hurt the country, and call it patriotism.
As for your second question, I won't get roped into the premise that I have to name someone who said that exact statement. I'm Irish, but I'm not that stupid. The fact that he doesn't use those words doesn't mean he doesn't share the sentiment. So, when Dan Rather refused to say that Bush was elected, and instead insisted that he was "selected," he was representing the same opposition to Bush that Limbaugh expressed about Obama.
KC...Limbaugh, patriotism, etc.
March 3, 2009 - 00:24 ET by JerA few brief points:
Both of your questions, Jer, have the same hidden premise: namely, that the political agenda of a president is equivalent to the welfare of the country. They're not.
Then the questions should have been phrased differently and better, because that was not my intended premise. Like you, I see no equivalency between these concepts.
I can comfortably support the country while opposing the president's political agenda.
If only we all could do likewise, but, even more important, if only we were all capable of recognizing that distinction when manifested by those with whom we disagree politically.
But let's make sure we don't forget something important. Because so much time has passed, we tend to lump accusations together. As a conservative, I didn't object when liberals didn't support Bush politically. That's certainly their right, as it is our right to oppose Obama now.
Refer to my preceding point. Unfortunately, too many on both sides do not understand, or refuse to accept, principled opposition.
However, I did object when liberals sought to actively undermine a war effort (like when the NY Times published the entirely-legal eavesdropping program, or wallowed for months over Abu Ghraib, and yet deliberately refused to report the success of the surge, etc.).
Generally agree. Although I believe the Times did hold the wiretap story for a considerable period of time. Abu Gharib was appropriate to report, but the scandal was indeed excessively flogged. I'm not in a position to comment on the Times coverage--or lack of same--regarding the surge success
So let's make that a clear distinction there. I welcome political debate. I reject supporting a war for political reasons.
Distinction duly noted and agreed to.
My desire for the country to succeed doesn't mean that I have to support Obama's policies, especially when I think they are horribly misguided. Don't ask me to support policies that I think will hurt the country, and call it patriotism.
That isn't and wasn't my intention.
As for your second question, I won't get roped into the premise that I have to name someone who said that exact statement. I'm Irish, but I'm not that stupid. The fact that he doesn't use those words doesn't mean he doesn't share the sentiment. So, when Dan Rather refused to say that Bush was elected, and instead insisted that he was "selected," he was representing the same opposition to Bush that Limbaugh expressed about Obama.
Not trying to rope you, KC. You're free to answer or not. I have read and reread Limbaugh's words at least three times--in their entirety and in context--and I still find them stunningly inappropriate. I did research the Rather quote. It's not quite as egregious as you suggest. [He neither "refused to say Bush was elected" nor "insisted that he was selected".] I'm sure Rather was no fan of Bush, but Limbaugh's opening [and continuing] assault on Obama is on another level altogether.
Jer
Well, then ...
March 3, 2009 - 10:28 ET by KC MulvilleOK, we've cleared out the underbrush. Now ...
What was so inappropriate about Limbaugh's remarks?
There he goes again.
March 1, 2009 - 10:26 ET by JWFDemanding people do research for you.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
Wrong, JWF... I asked a
March 1, 2009 - 23:10 ET by JerWrong, JWF...
I asked a simple question. There was no "demand for research".
Jer
I feel that I lose context
February 28, 2009 - 12:40 ET by ConservativeRexI feel that I lose context with these liberals. I must remind myself that to these people liberalism is a religion. At the moment Obami is the titular head of this particular religion.
All of his parishioners treat him like the head of a religion. We all know that Washington is the seat of their religion (Moscow was their Eastern seat of religion).
So when they act in this manner, they are just expressing their religious faith in Obami. That they have absolutely no tolerence for any true Christian religion is proven daily. Has anyone on record ever heard or know about Obami making any kind of reference to the New Testament, except to misqute it and form it to his particular meaning and take it completely out of context? I haven't.
God bless Nina Totenberg!!!!
February 28, 2009 - 13:20 ET by ekslibIf it weren't for Totenberg's coverage of Justice Thomas's confirmation hearings, I'd still be a liberal.
She and her media friends were so biased in their reporting on the hearings that I HAD to doubt the commonly held belief that my fellow liberals were more kind-hearted than the conservatives.
The scales dropped from my eyes, and I saw that liberals could be especially nasty and very deceitful.
Thank you, Nina, for setting me on the right path
y'all, i just returned from a few days in our nation's capitol..
February 28, 2009 - 18:10 ET by clinging to my guns and my religion...and i must say i was shocked at how obama's face was everywhere!!! totenberg may have said "oh my God, we have a president again!", but one would think we had never had a president at all up until now! his face was in places where the faces of previous presidents have not been prominently displayed. for example, the front window glass of the smithsonian shop in the air and space museum used to be reserved for books and items of air and space concerns. other subjects were displayed further on into the store. to my shagrin, the subject of the entire window was obama and the missus. i could not even go in. every time i saw a picture of him where other presidents' faces have not previously appeared, i could not help but think of the 1960's and 1970's news pictures of entire buildings in china being covered with huge pictures of chairman mao! i kid you not, it's very sobering!!
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle." Edmund Burke
~Clinging
February 28, 2009 - 18:28 ET by choselife3xI wondered what happened to you! Glad the ruby slippers worked. You couldn't pay me to go to DC right now, unless it's for a Tea Party!
Hope and Change=
Despair and Socialism
that "tea party" idea has real merit!
February 28, 2009 - 18:42 ET by clinging to my guns and my religioni think it will catch on.
yes, i thank the good witch for getting me out of there in one piece, lol. went for business, but thought i was going to get in some "pleasure" and do some museums and galleries while i was there. only succeeded in scaring myself silly; obamania is in stage four up there!! there are "yes, we can" type ads all over the place, and the face is everywhere. you couldn't sling a dead cat without hitting a picture of him. i expect nightmares for many moons!
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle." Edmund Burke
~Sling a dead cat
February 28, 2009 - 19:14 ET by choselife3xWow, Helen Thomas was with you?! Hope you didn't hurt your back, old girl isn't the slender sylph she used to be.
Hope and Change=
Despair and Socialism
ROFL!!
February 28, 2009 - 19:22 ET by clinging to my guns and my religionfortunately, i had some big, strong men with me. it only took four of them to put her into orbit!!
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle." Edmund Burke
~When you really think about it
February 28, 2009 - 19:29 ET by choselife3xShe mostly looks like a bald pug with a bad wig and a vicious case of mange.
I could happily go the rest of my life without seeing another picture of that thing.
I hope she burns up on re-entry. *shudder*
Hope and Change=
Despair and Socialism
"I hope she burns up on re-entry."
February 28, 2009 - 19:51 ET by clinging to my guns and my religionyeah, that would really put her out of our misery. every time i see her, i just want to shout at the tv, "don't go away angry, helen; just go away."
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle." Edmund Burke
More Proof that NPR needs to comoff the public dole
March 1, 2009 - 05:41 ET by kevinm13There is no reason in today's age of the internet and alternative media that the federal government (that's you and me paying our taxes folks) should be funding NPR. People like this need to go back to the liberal commercial networks.
One of the first things that the next President should do in 2013 is to defund federal money from NPR and PBS. Let them stand on their own as liberal networks. If the libs don't support them, let them fail. The taxpayers shouldn't be responsible for funding this kind of failure.
So far, 0bama has not shown any leadership. He hasn't led anything in his life and he will fail at this first time in leadership. He has allowed Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid but mostly Nancy Pelosi, to ram massive spending through and get their pet projects ($4+ billion for Acorn, PLEASE!) taken care of with taxpayers money. They have forced huge deficits on our grandchildren and still haven't done anything indicating leadership.