Washington Post's King Scoffs at Idea Reagan Had 'More Substance than Obama'

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Washington Post columnist Colby King scoffed Friday at the notion former President Ronald Reagan brought more substance to the White House than does President Barack Obama as King also raised the Iran-Contra scandal as evidence of Reagan's mismanagement of foreign policy.
 
On Inside Washington, a weekly show produced and aired over the weekend by Washington, DC's ABC affiliate, but first broadcast Friday night on the local PBS station, King contended: “This President connects with people.” That prompted fill-in moderator Mark Shields to ask columnist Charles Krauthammer: “Is it Reagan-like in that sense?” Krauthammer cautioned: “Well, except that Reagan, I think, had a lot more substance and he had a lot more ideas-” Cutting Krauthammer off, a chortling King jeered: “More substance than Obama?!”

Krauthammer held firm and then pointed out how Obama's “never managed a candy store, and the way he put together his cabinet shows that he's got a long way to go,” so while “he's very fluid in his speech,” on foreign affairs he's “extremely slow on delivery because he's extremely unsure.” To which King -- the Post's deputy editorial page editor from 2000 to 2007 -- derisively interjected: “He's managed as well as Reagan with Iran-Contra.”

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At that point, Shields jumped in to switch the topic to “A-Rod.”

From Inside Washington, as aired Friday night, February 13, on WETA-TV, channel 26:

COLBY KING: Obama, you talk about his style, I think this is where he has his real strength, his ability to communicate with people beyond that press office and beyond Washington. And he is going to do what he did this week, which is to go back into the people whenever he has a problem to tell them what he's up to and they're going to be with him. We are missing it here in Washington, the same way we missed what was going on in the campaign. This President connects with people. And you look at the polls and the polls show that. The support for him, his approval rating is up where the approval rating for the Republicans is down, and for the Democrats.

MODERATOR MARK SHIELDS: Charles, is it Reagan-like in that sense?

CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER: Well, except that Reagan, I think, had a lot more substance and he had a lot more ideas-

KING: More substance than Obama?!

KRAUTHAMMER, OVER KING'S CHORTLING: Yes, he had political ideas, he had an ideology which he understood he thought about, written about for thirty years, that he wanted enacted. Obama is coming in, and if you ask people what does he want to do, it's not exactly clear. But I would agree with Colby's facts about how he's performed on the stump. The problem is he knows how to campaign, and we know that, and he went out and he campaigned on behalf of the stimulus and the numbers on the stimulus rose. So he can persuade people, but can he manage? He's never managed a candy store, and the way he put together his cabinet shows that he's got a long way to go. And I would agree he's very fluid in his speech. However, if you watched him on the issues of foreign affairs, he was extremely slow on delivery because he's extremely unsure.

KING: He's managed as well as Reagan with Iran-Contra.

—Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center


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Barack Obama has never done

Barack Obama has never done anything of real substance; he's been a political animal his entire adult life, and even in politics never faced any real challenges until now.

For King to claim that because he is articulate and eloquent he has as much substance as Ronald Reagan is a howler of the first magnitude!

Update:  I see it was Krauthammer who commented on Obama being "fluid in his speech" not King.

However, King  is still way off.  He is confusing personality (This President connects with people) with substance.

I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson

Well, one thing's for

Well, one thing's for sure.  Obama has more controlled substance than Reagan.

Marvl, I can't let this post

 

More controlled substance than Reagan? Are you kidding me???  That's ludicrous! .  

I guess my joke was too

I guess my joke was too obscure.  I meant "controlled substance" in the illegal drug sense.  I believe the construct constitutes a pun of sorts.

I got it. [snort]

I got it. [snort]

Colby King is a

Colby King is a fool.

-Dave

Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.

Colby King

And a racist.

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

Bolton/KEYES 2012 

Colby King is a fool

and an award winning cheese.

the obama fans are surly

And I know why---- GAWD, it's been a couple ugly weeks
of cabinet "nonleadership," bumping his head or trying to walk thru
a window, or covering Biden's gaffes.

It is nonstop pratfalls, like a keystone kop routine.
Let's hope for the sake of the nation he has a fast learning curve.

And I think the Obama fans are crabby that for all the inaugaration
hoopla, Reagan still drew more viewers......

and more votes - let's see

and more votes - let's see "president" empty suit carry 49 states for re-election - THAT would be substance

chortle:)

What if, 2012

If the Republicans got their act together by 2012, Obama would lose 49 states next time around.

Unfortunately, that's highly unlikely. 

When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.

2012

  Wouldn't it be great if he lost all 57?

Obama has ZERO experience

Obama has ZERO experience and it shows! Right out of the gate, obama announces Leon Panetta and hacks off Sen Feinstein, loses his  HHS Sec., Daschle for tax cheating, loses TWO Commerce Sec (Richardson, for pay-to-play investigation)...etc. Maybe the 'substance' Colby speaks of is Obama's Chicago-Style Thug Politics?

 

Obama is like a shifty

car salesman. He'll smooth talk you and lie to your face.  Perfect for the gullible crowds that voted for him.

Obama vs Reagan?......

is this where we're at with this "N"itwit Obama? This boob couldn't run a Flea Circus! The MSM is on their knees in his defense and will stay there only until it reaches a tipping point. When they are made out to be the useful idiots that's part of the Messiahs' plan, they'll turn this Circus into the next OJ in the White Bronco moment.

 

 

Pssssst <whispers> Emperor Barry isn't wearing any clothes!

connman

I couln't agree with you more. The MSM is the reason for this predicament we are in now.

  

the subtle designs of his skill..."Sophocles"

And don't forget the

And don't forget the gullible fools who swallowed the tripe handed out by the MSM.  Their laziness, ignorance, and stupidity is ultimately responsible for all of this.

Right On

One of the better descriptions of Obammy that I recall from campaign season was 'a typical used-Mercedes-Benz salesman'. Come to think of it, he could have been a great success at selling cars.

"Used Cars"

I don't know if there are any "Used Cars" fans posting right now, but in the movie there is a great scene when they Kurt Russell and his cohorts break into Jimmy Carter's speech on tv.  They are broadcasting from Roy L. Fuchs car emporium, which is their rival, and they start talking about how they are blowing away high prices and how high priced everything is. They are shooting guns at the cars, and blowing them up.

For fans of that movie, picture them breaking into Pelosi's speech about the Stimulus Package, and they start talking about all the high priced b.s. in the that stimulus package and picture them blowing up all those b.s. pork.

 

Thank you Carl

Hadn't thought about that movie in a while. It sure fits. It would be nice if you could bury her in one.

Jesus Loves You

Jack Warden as Luke and Roy

Jack Warden as Luke and Roy L. Fuchs was brilliant.  Joe Flaherty is also one of my favorite comedians.  He played the lawyer.  I can just think about that movie and start busting out laughing.

 

I liked Joe best

I liked Joe best with John Candy. They played off one another quite well.

Jesus Loves You

You are really cool!  I'll

You are really cool!  I'll bet you are a "SCTV" fan.  That and "Andy Griffith" are my favorite shows.  I cry laughing watching "SCTV".  How about Joe Flaherty as Count Floyd or Guy Caballero?

 

You got it Carl

SCTV was my favorite. It was a lot better than Sat Night Live. The McKenzie Bros were a hoot. Count Floyd was unbelievable.

I remember when Andy came out with "What It Was Was Football". He was a superb actor. My favorite with him was "No Time For Sargeants". We are witnessing his movie "A Face In The Crowd" come to life with Present Obama. Jesus Loves You

"I got to pee so bad I can

"I got to pee so bad I can taste it"  How about "Strange Brew"?  I love that movie.  Max Von Sydow as the brewmeister was classic!

My cousin was telling about some wierd movie Andy Griffith did with the dude who played Mr. Brady and I think William Shattner and it was real wierd.  You ever heard of that movie?

Don't get me started on pre-stroke Howard McNear aka Floyd.  I cry laughing watching pre-stroke Floyd on "Andy Griffith".

Carl

I can't place the Andy Griffith movie but Strange brew was classic. Remember Ernest T. Bass and the Darling family? Jesus Loves You

The best skit was Eugene

The best skit was Eugene Levy as Perry Como. I defy anybody not to laugh at that.

Honorable mentions goes to the Gordon Lightfoot Sings Everything album and the Richard Harris skit where he's jogging in place during the instrumental parts of MacArthur Park.

“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)

SCTV

And Eugene Levy at his best.

Remember those plaid suits? 

Carl, my wife and I still use that saying.......

when shopping and see a price for something out of line, we look at each other and mouth the words "too ****** high" while simulating holding a shotgun and pumping shells to blow it up.

8 years and Iran/Contra

Obama should be so lucky that, after 2 years, he only has something like Iran/Contra.  They talk about George Bush shooting from the hip, Obama has his back turned and just fires hoping to hit something, anything, that people will say is really good. 

I believe Charles Krauthammer thinks Obama is a lightweight, not that he's not intelligent, but that he's in over his head as President.  Watching the moves he's made so far, I could agree with that.

Just look at what happened with the CEO of Caterpillar?  If he makes that same mistake with Ahmadinajhad, God only knows what can happen. 

Obama has no clue what's expected of a President, he's just sort of winging it.  If you want him to be successful, you'd better hope his learning curve improves, we can't afford to have someone without good advisors trying to fly by wire.  

Election 2008-God's way of showing us that elections count.  

Just look at what happened

Just look at what happened with the CEO of Caterpillar? 

PB:

I am confident that Obama did not care when he was contradicted by the CEO of Caterpillar.  His staff and himself have been operating under the assumption that he will get great cover fromt he MSM.

He could have said that the CEO of Caterpillar was an ex-patriot zulu ax murderer and the press would not report to the contrary.

THerefore, he just assumed that the glowing statement he made about he CEO's comments would go unchallenged and just absorbed by the public.  Essentially he has been correct in this assumption.

bd

At the same event, Obama called out -in front of all the people- a new, young GOP Congressman (I don't recall his name, but maybe he's the one that replaced Rham Emanuel??) he had the Congressman stand up and told the crowd to "lobby him to sign the stimulus bill". The Congressman later stated that "no one called him in support of the stimulus".

My point: This used-car salesman likes using scare tatics, likes 'getting in peoples faces', and will use any means to get his way. Ya, know, aka Chicago Thug Politics. Pretty soon, Obama is gonna go head-to-head with Pelosi. And Reid.  That's going to be so funny.

Yes, but Obama and his

Yes, but Obama and his staff have become used to having a willing accomplice in the media who only report the glow, rather than the substance of his words.

THus when the media drops the ball in covering for him, he stands there looking naked.  But it is immaterial since the press will not really cover it anyway.

Joe the Plumber has more

Joe the Plumber has more substance than Obama, to name just one.

Discredit...

Discredit Regan. Discredit Palin. Discredit Limbaugh. Discredit anyone, anything conservative.

These libs are worried in a big way. Any of them with an ounce of intelligence (granted there's only a few) know they are in for four years of harrassment because they know Obama is a lightweight.

Eighteen months from now things will still be ugly and the media will be clamoring for something, anything to cover their backsides.

Thirteen bucks a week eh? Thrilled I tell ya, just 'effn thrilled!

Obama is simply an empty suit

Obama is simply an empty suit. The only thing that he seems to have is controlled anger towards the Capitalist Republic that America is, and white people. He explained very well in his monumental writings, how he learned how to behave calmly around white people. But that is all he has. The Black community may be left bankrupt if they don't start evaluating him honestly. If Obama doesn't get over his perceived greatness he'll end up like David Dinkins in New York or worse. He's seems to have created an alternate reality and persona about himself and he has drunk to much of his own kool aid. So have his liberal defenders, especially in the Black community. Being Black does not equal greatness. Instead of pretending that he is in line with Lincoln he ought to read more of Martin Luther King, and shoot for a better more honest character.
As of this time I am still waiting for this grand transparency that he railed about. So far he has told multiple lies about multiple people and events. Even Lincoln. It's getting really scary. It's really scary that we have half of the electorate stupefied over this empty suit.
TSF Protests!

Obama Will Never Compare to Reagan

Who is the Left calling Obama today? I'm losing track.

 

Is he Lincoln? FDR? Kennedy? 

He's not even "Obama," much less any of these presidents. To compare the twit to Reagan is like comparing a rodeo clown with John Wayne.

I wonder who Obama will be compared to next, even before  accomplishing anything at all...

A nation cannot be free without a free, unbiased media. We are not free.

The comparison with Reagan

The comparison with Reagan will come at the end of his reign.

Present Obama will be Carter and his successor will be compared to President Reagan pulling us out of the cesspool.

Jesus Loves You

My tighty whiteys have more

My tighty whiteys have more substance than "that one". 

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

When is a scandal not a scandal.

  When democrats trying to score points in Congress get involved. 

  Once again we have a weasely democrat dupe trying to negate all the good President Reagan did for this country by uttering their favorite 2 words. Iran & Contra.

  In the mean time, we look back at this and say boo freaking hoo. We had a democrat Congress that loved all things commie and refused to support insurgent groups trying to oppose socialism in Latin & South America. Big surprise there. Democrats love commies. So we did an end run on Congress and tried to get help to a group fighting socialists.

  At the same time, we had 2 muslim countries at war with each other in the middle east. You know what happens when muslims get busy killing each other? THEY STOP BEING SO BUSY KILLING US! They take the eye off the ball in taking on the Great Satan and the Little Satan. Anything that could level the playing field between Iran & Iraq and prolong the muslims whompin' on muslims thing IS GOOD.

  And what's more...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Oh I drifted off. GAWD democrats lies about republicans bore me.

  Ronald Reagan talked about this. Don't listen to me. Listen to him.

My fellow Americans:

I've spoken to you from this historic office on many occasions and about many things. The power of the Presidency is often thought to reside within this Oval Office. Yet it doesn't rest here; it rests in you, the American people, and in your trust. Your trust is what gives a President his powers of leadership and his personal strength, and it's what I want to talk to you about this evening.

For the past three months, I've been silent on the revelations about Iran. And you must have been thinking: "Well, why doesn't he tell us what's happening? Why doesn't he just speak to us as he has in the past when we've faced troubles or tragedies?" Others of you, I guess, were thinking: "What's he doing hiding out in the White House?" Well, the reason I haven't spoken to you before now is this: You deserve the truth. And as frustrating as the waiting has been, I felt it was improper to come to you with sketchy reports, or possibly even erroneous statements, which would then have to be corrected, creating even more doubt and confusion. There's been enough of that. I've paid a price for my silence in terms of your trust and confidence. But I've had to wait, as you have, for the complete story. That's why I appointed Ambassador David Abshire as my Special Counsellor to help get out the thousands of documents to the various investigations. And I appointed a Special Review Board, the Tower board, which took on the chore of pulling the truth together for me and getting to the bottom of things. It has now issued its findings.

I'm often accused of being an optimist, and it's true I had to hunt pretty hard to find any good news in the Board's report. As you know, it's well-stocked with criticisms, which I'll discuss in a moment; but I was very relieved to read this sentence: ". . . the Board is convinced that the President does indeed want the full story to be told." And that will continue to be my pledge to you as the other investigations go forward. I want to thank the members of the panel: former Senator John Tower, former Secretary of State Edmund Muskie, and former national security adviser Brent Scowcroft. They have done the Nation, as well as me personally, a great service by submitting a report of such integrity and depth. They have my genuine and enduring gratitude.

I've studied the Board's report. Its findings are honest, convincing, and highly critical; and I accept them. And tonight I want to share with you my thoughts on these findings and report to you on the actions I'm taking to implement the Board's recommendations. First, let me say I take full responsibility for my own actions and for those of my administration. As angry as I may be about activities undertaken without my knowledge, I am still accountable for those activities. As disappointed as I may be in some who served me, I'm still the one who must answer to the American people for this behavior. And as personally distasteful as I find secret bank accounts and diverted funds—well, as the Navy would say, this happened on my watch.

Let's start with the part that is the most controversial. A few months ago I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not. As the Tower board reported, what began as a strategic opening to Iran deteriorated, in its implementation, into trading arms for hostages. This runs counter to my own beliefs, to administration policy, and to the original strategy we had in mind. There are reasons why it happened, but no excuses. It was a mistake. I undertook the original Iran initiative in order to develop relations with those who might assume leadership in a post-Khomeini government.

It's clear from the Board's report, however, that I let my personal concern for the hostages spill over into the geopolitical strategy of reaching out to Iran. I asked so many questions about the hostages welfare that I didn't ask enough about the specifics of the total Iran plan. Let me say to the hostage families: We have not given up. We never will. And I promise you we'll use every legitimate means to free your loved ones from captivity. But I must also caution that those Americans who freely remain in such dangerous areas must know that they're responsible for their own safety.

Now, another major aspect of the Board's findings regards the transfer of funds to the Nicaraguan contras. The Tower board wasn't able to find out what happened to this money, so the facts here will be left to the continuing investigations of the court-appointed Independent Counsel and the two congressional investigating committees. I'm confident the truth will come out about this matter, as well. As I told the Tower board, I didn't know about any diversion of funds to the contras. But as President, I cannot escape responsibility.

Much has been said about my management style, a style that's worked successfully for me during 8 years as Governor of California and for most of my Presidency. The way I work is to identify the problem, find the right individuals to do the job, and then let them go to it. I've found this invariably brings out the best in people. They seem to rise to their full capability, and in the long run you get more done. When it came to managing the NSC staff, let's face it, my style didn't match its previous track record. I've already begun correcting this. As a start, yesterday I met with the entire professional staff of the National Security Council. I defined for them the values I want to guide the national security policies of this country. I told them that I wanted a policy that was as justifiable and understandable in public as it was in secret. I wanted a policy that reflected the will of the Congress as well as of the White House. And I told them that there'll be no more freelancing by individuals when it comes to our national security.

You've heard a lot about the staff of the National Security Council in recent months. Well, I can tell you, they are good and dedicated government employees, who put in long hours for the Nation's benefit. They are eager and anxious to serve their country. One thing still upsetting me, however, is that no one kept proper records of meetings or decisions. This led to my failure to recollect whether I approved an arms shipment before or after the fact. I did approve it; I just can't say specifically when. Well, rest assured, there's plenty of recordkeeping now going on at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

For nearly a week now, I've been studying the Board's report. I want the American people to know that this wrenching ordeal of recent months has not been in vain. I endorse every one of the Tower board's recommendations. In fact, I'm going beyond its recommendations so as to put the house in even better order. I'm taking action in three basic areas: personnel, national security policy, and the process for making sure that the system works.

First, personnel—I've brought in an accomplished and highly respected new team here at the White House. They bring new blood, new energy, and new credibility and experience. Former Senator Howard Baker, my new Chief of Staff, possesses a breadth of legislative and foreign affairs skills that's impossible to match. I'm hopeful that his experience as minority and majority leader of the Senate can help us forge a new partnership with the Congress, especially on foreign and national security policies. I'm genuinely honored that he's given up his own Presidential aspirations to serve the country as my Chief of Staff. Frank Carlucci, my new national security adviser, is respected for his experience in government and trusted for his judgment and counsel. Under him, the NSC staff is being rebuilt with proper management discipline. Already, almost half the NSC professional staff is comprised of new people.

Yesterday I nominated William Webster, a man of sterling reputation, to be Director of the Central Intelligence Agency. Mr. Webster has served as Director of the FBI and as a U.S. District Court judge. He understands the meaning of "rule of law." So that his knowledge of national security matters can be available to me on a continuing basis, I will also appoint John Tower to serve as a member of my Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board. I am considering other changes in personnel, and I'll move more furniture, as I see fit, in the weeks and months ahead.

Second, in the area of national security policy, I have ordered the NSC to begin a comprehensive review of all covert operations. I have also directed that any covert activity be in support of clear policy objectives and in compliance with American values. I expect a covert policy that, if Americans saw it on the front page of their newspaper, they'd say, "That makes sense." I have had issued a directive prohibiting the NSC staff itself from undertaking covert operations—no ifs, ands, or buts. I have asked Vice President Bush to reconvene his task force on terrorism to review our terrorist policy in light of the events that have occurred.

Third, in terms of the process of reaching national security decisions, I am adopting in total the Tower report's model of how the NSC process and staff should work. I am directing Mr. Carlucci to take the necessary steps to make that happen. He will report back to me on further reforms that might be needed. I've created the post of NSC legal adviser to assure a greater sensitivity to matters of law. I am also determined to make the congressional oversight process work. Proper procedures for consultation with the Congress will be followed, not only in letter but in spirit. Before the end of March, I will report to the Congress on all the steps I've taken in line with the Tower board's conclusions.

Now, what should happen when you make a mistake is this: You take your knocks, you learn your lessons, and then you move on. That's the healthiest way to deal with a problem. This in no way diminishes the importance of the other continuing investigations, but the business of our country and our people must proceed. I've gotten this message from Republicans and Democrats in Congress, from allies around the world, and—if we're reading the signals right—even from the Soviets. And of course, I've heard the message from you, the American people. You know, by the time you reach my age, you've made plenty of mistakes. And if you've lived your life properly—so, you learn. You put things in perspective. You pull your energies together. You change. You go forward.

My fellow Americans, I have a great deal that I want to accomplish with you and for you over the next two years. And the Lord willing, that's exactly what I intend to do.

Good night, and God bless you.

 

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

Thanks JWF....Hey! Wake up..........

I said thanks JWF for posting that reminder of Reagans eloquence and as an example of how "not" to talk down to people.  I also agree with your analysis completely.  Iran-Contra brought to light one of my favorite can do guys in existance.  He is right at the top on my respect meter, Colonel Oliver North.

Reagon

Wow an elected official who takes responsibility for what happens under his watch.  You have to respect that.  Reagan truley loved his country.  America lost a great citizen when he passed. 

To compare Obama and Regan and find Regan wanting is just unbelieveable.  This man either has a very short memory or he is deaf and blind to whats been going on in only a few weeks of this man's term.  It usually takes longer then this for an elected official to break all of his campaign promises except passing  this bill that I that I refuse to call stimulus because we still don't know everything that's in it.

 

Obama's election is proof he was lured by the machine

And what I mean is the political machine that groomed him to get an office he could not ever deserve.

It was apparent that he was well spoken, a minority that 'made' it and could motivate others.  The Democrat machine moved in for the kill.  Democrats obsessed with regaining full control by captilaizing on the shortcomings of Bush went into action many years ago.  One billion dollars later (which was spent to get him elected) we now have a completely ignorant man ala the empty suit that is pawn to the power.

Look, 4 years ago I was chatting online with a woman who worked in the Illinois state capital and worked specifically for Obama.  I, like every American, had never heard of him.  We would chat on occasion while we would play online gin rummy several times a week.  One time she mentions this guy Obama and I joke about how it sounded like Osama.  Unamused, she scoffed that off but said something to me that I'll NEVER forget. When I said "who is this guy Obama?"  She said, "He's going to be the next president."

Ronald Reagan...

...had no substance?

Ronald "MR. GORBACHEV...TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!" Reagan?

Ronald "GOVERNMENT ISN'T PART OF THE PROBLEM. GOVERNMENT IS THE PROBLEM" Reagan?

Ronald "YOU CAN RUN, BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE" Reagan?

Ronald Reagan's ghost has more substance than Obama the Rookie.

2010: A GOP Hill

You mean... "We are the

You mean...

"We are the ones we've been waiting for..." does not match up?

Hahahahahahaha!

BD ....You mean "We are the ones we've been waiting for...."

does not match up?

Well... not according to 4 past presidents!

HeeHeeHee.....that never fails to crack me up. It's a masterpiece!

The trouble is, The One will probably end up there. Although knowing his arrogance he would probably want a mountain of his own.  I know! We can name it Mt. Roostmore......and tell all those Obamorons "their chicken has come home to roost"!

That was EXCELLENT!

That was EXCELLENT!

No sleep

That's was hillarious! However, his bumbling quotes will in the public skool textbooks this year and will be celebrated.

I saw this one too.

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

Bolton/KEYES 2012 

I'll say it...they

I'll say it...they (Afro-Americans) don't care what Obama does or says because he's black. 

He's labeled black, anyway, and he's certainly into the Black Liberation Theology thing.  Nothing else matters.  Look at how Berry actually got re-elected even after being caught on tape dealing drugs.  He was black and that's all the black voters in D.C. cared about.

I had always hoped that our first minority president would be someone that the vast majority of American citizens could have been proud of, regardless of party affiliation.  Instead we got an affirmative action president who's a Marxist to boot.

I don't dare put a 'Nobama' sticker on my car because I think like that white guy up in Tennessee years ago with the Rebel Flag in his truck cab window I'll end up with a slug in me.  Anyone who criticizes The Black One publicly does so at their own risk.

One of the 24% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 89% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.

rr gop

Tennessee did NOT vote for obama!

I'm beginning to notice that the obama supporters around my town aren't as defensive as they were a month ago. During the election and especially during the transition, one could not mention the name Obama without getting stared down.  Now, when I mention the name Obama, I don't see the smug/hateful attitude.

I think that the Brothers from the 'hood are disapointed by the Brother from Harvard!  He doesn't go to church, he hasn't appointed anyone from the Civil Rights movement...

The biggest difference between Reagan & Obama is that...

...Ronald Reagan was honest and consistent about what he believed in, period.  That is probably the biggest frustration that the left had with him; he held popular views and rarely strayed from them.  

The same cannot be said of Mr. Obama, for whom everyone must dance around the fact that he is a Marxist.

So to support freedom

So to support Nicaraguan freedom fighters against Soviet Cuban communism is somehow wrong, typical commie democrap ideology. The best of Obama wouldn't reach up to the 'worst' of Ronald Reagan. I could make a comment about shining shoes but some might take it as 'racist'

SLOW-BAMA...

 Here is the deal...

Obama = Empty Suit...

Biden = Stuffed Shirt...

The way I see Obama is that he strikes me like a recording artist who sings well, but can't write his own music. He is a frontman with only 1 political skill, the ability to sound like he's in the middle while actually working way to the left. He comes across as a likable guy, but in reality is a political thug who understands how to strongarm political opponents. That's how they do it in Chicago, down & dirty. Alinsky taught him well.

As for Biden, well, he lacks depth, & he thinks he is smarter then he is. The guy is a loose canon, & would be a worse president then Obama will be.

 

"...it's still We The People, Right?"  Megadeth 

barack obama is the best thing to happen to the conservative

movement in years. after two election cycles of losses. conservatives are being forced, driven, whatever back to they're roots. every day obama, pelosi et.al are rebuilding the party. hammer them in 2010 put conservatives in power in congress to stop any programs/spending.then 2012 obama is out. a one term joke. albiet an expensive one. his brand on things will poison the water for the better part of a generation. the dems know this that's why they all look scared.the only real question is "who will be the next reagan"?

They connect with the <i>idea</i> of Obama

And that's the way it has always been. He was a blank screen on which many projected their hopes and dreams. With a personalized, individual agenda (it's different for each person!) like that, who wouldn't think "Obama" connected with them?

But it's still all style and no substance.

Retired Geek Stimulus Plan

Create a randomly sorted database of all citizens on welfare. Although 3,880,321 were on welfare as of 12-31-07, the average size of a welfare family is 4.2, resulting in 16,297,348 actaully living off of the welfare recepients check.

This is the equivalent of the actual population (not metropopulation) of New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, Philadelphia and Dallas.

Deport all illegal aliens and create a database of where they worked (Approximately $160 billion -$10k per deportation).

Assign each person on welfare to a job that was left by an illegal alien.

Refusal to report to the job automatically and permanently drops the citizen from welfare for life.

The government would pay the business for the salary of the newly hired former welfare recipient, whether replacing a deported illegal alien or a new job creation, for six months (Approximately $166.4 billion - $10 hr).

Give each former welfare recipient $30,000, for expenses to relocate to the new job and incidental expenses (Approximately $480 billion).

An approximate $804 billion, deports all illegal aliens - this takes the drain off all of society - puts all welfare recipients to work.

The entire $804 billion is placed into the economy within six months and business's have money to improve, expand or hire other employees.

This would save or create 15 to 16 million jobs.

Everyone wins except the politicians.

KING: More substance than

KING: More substance than Obama?!

Look, the only substance to President Malibu Ken is that which he snorted in college.

Meanwhile, speaking of Iran/Contra, what other DNC non sequitur slogans did that ignorant hack King come armed with?  No justice, no peace? Bush lied, people died?  Scab?  Keep your Rosaries out of my ovaries?  War, what is it good for?

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill

Alter or Abolish, while you can

done and done

head back to DU

Obvious troll alert

Your "honesty" is refreshing. Of course,  you are not a conservative, nor frankly anyone who represents any of MY ideals, nor those views of the vast majority of members here.

Don't you just love the trolls who wander in from the DU-mpster? Just moveon.org along, sonny.

 

Moderate... Democrat... Liberal... Progressive... Socialist... Communist.

The progression is clear as day.

gop

?????

The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts

gop... What do you mean

gop...

What do you mean an obvious troll here?

I don't know about that...some of his points are well taken by me.

The you don't know history.

"some of his points are well taken by me"

Then you have no understanding of history.  Who were the Nubians?

Obama: My job is above my pay grade

Cobra... Don't start a

Cobra...

Don't start a fight with me.

I said some of his points...what I specifically was talking about was the white man guilt and the leftists who are white that use it against the conservative party in this country...successfully by the way.

Matters not now...his post has been deleted, I am moving on.

I'm not trying to start a fight..

I'm not trying to start a fight, I'm just pointing out that his whole premise was based on his claim that Blacks never created a civilization and have been living off the hard work of others throughout the history of mankind.  That is FALSE!

Obama: My job is above my pay grade

Cobra... Like I

Cobra...

Like I said...some of his points.

I read his post a couple of times before responding.

I find it sad that we are getting to the point that just because we all don't agree with all points of view here we have to watch what we say to the utmost anymore.

I wasn't disagreeing with your point of view that you took out of his post either, not at all, in fact I agree.

All I was doing was pointing out the part that I did agree with before calling him a troll right off the bat.

Do you understand where I am coming from?

He is a trool.

When you lead a comment with an obvious biased opinion, and a false opinion at that, you're ether too stupid to understand what you are arguing, or you're trying in inflame people's emotions.  I believe that he was trying to inflame emotions  and not argue valid points.  That makes him a troll. 

Obama: My job is above my pay grade

Cobra... Well, it

Cobra...

Well, it certainly seems to have worked, so you must be correct.

I really am moving on now....the comment he made is gone.

Nothing for us to argue about here that I see.

That's right

"Nothing for us to argue about here that I see."

That's right, his trollish, bigoted, asinine comment got deleted, deservedly so.

Obama: My job is above my pay grade

hi BT

not to Move-On i hope!!

kidding, i know what you mean

;^ )

The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts

Hey, howdy Bruce.... Glad

Hey, howdy Bruce....

Glad to see you back, haven't seen you much around lately...hope all is well.

BT, Cobra had it right.

Minuteman can add phony and racist to his profile as a TROLL.

Whatever...haven't seen him

Whatever...haven't seen him around before that I recall, so you all must know more than I do about him.

BT Check his profile, he's a newbe

Racist rants like his are an obvious setup to discredit NewBusters.  We don't post like that here, you certainly never have and I will continue to look forward to your posts.

You got that right, CT

"Racist rants like his are an obvious setup to discredit NewBusters."

You got that right, CT.

Obama: My job is above my pay grade

CT... Of course I checked

CT...

Of course I checked his profile.

I also don't know anything about anybody anyway until they really start posting a lot more than one post, like I said, I have never seen him before, so, I wasn't wanting to call him a troll right off the bat, I explained what I agreed with regarding his post, I was pretty sure others would do the rest that they didn't agree with like cobra and you for example that could do a far better job and maybe have an interesting discussion about all of these issues as they do need to be talked about honestly in my opinion...plus been a very fast moving topic for a few hours...lol.

Hope you understand what I mean here.

Btw...today is also the first time I have seen gobcongress here too, I also checked his/her profile...I still like to read more than one post from anybody before I call them a troll right off the bat...well, unless it's hater, and even then, I still give him slack to this day...it's just fun that way sometimes.     ;-)

BT

BT, there's nothing "fun" in racism. It's very harmful, to individuals and to society as a whole.

That post was racist. I don't care how many "points" contained within that post you think were valid, the entire premise of that post was racist in nature.There are no valid points in a racist premise.

Obama: My job is above my pay grade

Cobra... You have your

Cobra...

You have your opinion.

I have stated mine more than once.

Nothing more needs to be said here.

It is over.

I pity you, BT

I pity you, BT, I really do.  You can't seem to differentiate between a valid argument and racist opinions.

Obama: My job is above my pay grade

Cobra... Save your pity

Cobra...

Save your pity for yourself.

You must have a great need to pick a damned fight today.

For no reason with me.

If you are inferring that I am stupid, or racist....you are the fool.

Leave me alone Cobra...go get the last word in with someone else.

BT

BT if you agree with even ONE "point" of a racist premise, then I begin to wonder if you actually agree with that premise.

Do you agree with that premise?  If not, than even you must admit that the points contained within that premise are as false as the original premise.

Obama: My job is above my pay grade

My need

"You must have a great need to pick a damned fight today."

My need is to stop racism in it's tracks. It's harmful to everyone.

Obama: My job is above my pay grade

CobraMan

To be honest, I did not see what minuteman wrote on his post before it was deleted,  however I do not see any reason for you to call someone a fool just because they agree with something that you don't, regardless if you consider it racist or not.

The whole point of a discussion board is to share different kinds of idea's 

He had my vote

Trolls are not very smart

"In all of recorded history blacks have never created a civilization"

Tell that to the Nubians, ya twit.

Obama: My job is above my pay grade

~Cobra

Thanks for the great Nubian link.

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

You're welcome

You're welcome.

Obama: My job is above my pay grade

Good self-criticisms, Comrades

Nubia was a mixed-race kingdom, not a civilization, and it's dead.  I expected such whining from the newly-neutered conservatives who have never taken or given a punch:  just chattering ideologues sans scholarship.

As I said, many of you are paralyzed by political indoctrination correctness and are afraid of being called names by political bullies.  You are pathetic women who hide your cowardice by censoring my speech which is merely defensive.  The subject of many posts on this website are your responses to the relentless attacks on white civilization, yet you are afraid to call a spade a spade because you would have to fight, and geldings won't fight:  They just do ad hominems, then they ostrich.

You won't be able to talk your way out of this looming slavery, and you know it.  Stop wasting time rationalizing and denying reality.  Fight the enemy while you can.  

 

 

Learn a little history, fool

Nubia was founded, created, by Black people.  Sure mixed races lived there, but mixed races live in just about EVERY civilization throughout recorded history.  That doesn't change the fact that the Black "race" created several "kingdoms," also know as CIVILIZATIONS, throughout recorded history.  Nubia was just one of them.

Go back to your racist Wonderland, you twit.

Obama: My job is above my pay grade

and Egypt? “The way to

and Egypt?

The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts

Ge real, bigot.

"The subject of many posts on this website are your responses to the relentless attacks on white civilization."

Get real, bigot.  The attacks against America is NOT color specific. Men of ALL races have died fighting the war on terror, just as they have died in EVERY war America has fought.  Blacks even fought in the American Revolution, on OUR side.  So you can take your racist attitudes and scream them loudly, alongside the rest of your raciest friends and rest assured that your right to be a bigot is being protected by members of the same race you see as a threat.  There are plenty of Black Americans willing to fight, and die, for your right to be a bigot, your right to be a fool.

Obama: My job is above my pay grade

Minutiaman, of course you expected.....

whining.  What you reveal in you asinine statement is that the left is far more politically, socially and financially invested in keeping racial relations in this country front and center.  It is the way they accrue power.  It is the left side of the political spectrum that uses and abuses race relations.  Your projecting.

Ronlad Reagan had far more

Ronlad Reagan had far more ideas and a greater vision, Mr. King.  We certainly can discern that you don't.  Kind of makes one wonder if you weren't an affirmative action hire... umm?  Could have been.  Glad you've done well.  Might want to begin learning something about the American system of government and capitalism.  Must have skipped those classes.  How about econ 101?  Woops, missed that did ye'?

Liberalism is a convenient lie.

Krauthammer could out-debate

Krauthammer could out-debate this moron while in a coma.

Anybody who does not know Charles' personal story and accomplishments should spend a few minutes looking into it... talk about portraits in courage. 

I agree, Sick. I think his

I agree, Sick. I think his personal challenges give him a perspective that's lacking in even the best of the conservative pundits. In plain English, he doesn't give a crap how his opinions are received. He's a straight talker. And I'm disturbed that lately Krauthammer seems to be getting more frail.

QM... I too, have noticed

QM...

I too, have noticed how it seems Krauthammer is seeming to be increasingly frail, having a harder time getting his breath before he speaks...just glad you posted this, I was wondering if I was just maybe seeing things, know what I mean?

I wish him the very best....that is for sure.

b.t.: I guess sometimes we

b.t.: I guess sometimes we just can't help "momming". :)

It was hard enough losing Tony Snow. Krauthammer would be hard to replace.Both gentleman who sincerely care/d about America.

QM... As to your first

QM...

As to your first sentence...it's just natural.  ;-)

As to your second point...oh, you are so right.

I take Strong Exception to Charles Krauthammer's comment that

President Barack Hussein Obama "never managed a candy store."

I'm almost certain that I read somewhere (maybe the Daily Kos or The Huffington Post) that Barack Hussein Obama had a lemonade stand that also sold candy in his yard one summer when he was twelve or thirteen. So President Barack Hussein Obama does have business experience.

I guess Charles Krauthammer, who I admire very much, can't be right all the time.

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I am not a vegetarian because
I love animals; I am a vegetarian
because I hate plants

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"There is no longer a media in this country.  There is simply an established propaganda arm for the Democrat Party and any and all who relate to it in any way, elected and unelected." ~ Rush Limbaugh 

Well, shut my mouth!

Then Obama is qualified to be President afterall! Whew! I was getting worried.

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

Bolton/KEYES 2012 

Sergeant ROCK

I hope my sardonic post did not mislead you.

NO! Barack Hussein Obama is NOT qualified to be president. BUT, he is qualified to manage a lemonade stand that also sells candy.

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Lead me not into temptation,
I can find it myself.

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"Barack Obama's demeanor belies the fact that he is who he is. You would never think he's an extremist unless you took seriously who his mentors were." ~ Rush Limbaugh 

Wrong Rush Fan

If you can run a lemonade stand, you can run the United States!

Ask any liberal if you don't believe me.

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

Bolton/KEYES 2012 

Hey Rock... Do not forget

Hey Rock...

Do not forget the candy.

Multi-tasking

Even better. He's a multi-tasker!

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

Bolton/KEYES 2012 

Mr. Reagan

had so much more that osama obama could ever hope to have or change even with 1/2 of it tied behind his back just to make it fair. Mr. Reagan was a man and not a man child with a made up adhd or ad or asho or how many ever letters they have today for those who cannot cope or function. osama is a poster child for AA.

LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL AND SPIRITUAL DISEASE and . . .

. . . liberals and leftists, be they Democrats or not, appear to be beyond reason or intelligent discourse.

Especially if they are black liberals, leftists and/or Democrats.

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