MSNBC Rues Obama Not Tougher; CBS Shows Only Obama Backer

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In the 20 minutes of post-debate analysis before the broadcast networks ended coverage and the cable channels moved on to other shows Friday night, on MSNBC Chris Matthews and Andrea Mitchell fretted that Barack Obama wasn't tough enough in attacking John McCain on the economy as Mitchell also hailed Obama -- “But, boy, he did show a command of foreign policy in terms of the nuts and bolts of it” -- and regretted Obama didn't do more to tie McCain to George Bush, a theme echoed on NBC by Tom Brokaw who “was surprised he didn't work harder at pinning John McCain to the eight years of the Bush administration.”

CBS featured only one citizen reaction, a man who touted Obama and compared McCain to Nixon, before ending with a quickie poll (neither ABC or NBC had one) that found twice as many “uncommitted voters” thought Obama won (40 percent) than McCain (22 percent).

Interviewing ABC News reporter turned Obama operative Linda Douglass, Matthews pleaded: “Why did your candidate agree so much -- openly and relentlessly -- with his opponent tonight?” He followed up with an impassioned lecture about Obama's missed opportunities to pound McCain:

Why didn't he talk more about the terrible state of the economy, the jobless rate, unemployment, the degree of deficit we're in right now, the degree of national debt, all of those issues out there that effect the average person, the number of foreclosures? He let his opponent talk about taxes and earmarking, his specialties. He seemed to lose control of the economic topic.

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MSNBC did not air a representative from the McCain campaign before the network switched to Keith Olbermann's tirades on a live Countdown at 11 PM EDT.

Following Douglass, Matthews went to NBC News reporter Andrea Mitchell, who rued:

I think he should have turned away from taxes and earmarks very quickly and really hammered away on George Bush and on what this $700 billion or $1 trillion problem really means for average people.

Matthews then reminded viewers:

He said at the convention, in accepting the nomination, he was going to make John McCain own the failures of the last seven and eight years, and he didn't do it tonight. He didn't focus on those failures.

Mitchell agreed, then pivoted to praise: “But, boy, he did show a command of foreign policy in terms of the nuts and bolts of it. And, of course, that is the expertise of John McCain.”

A little earlier, the MRC's Brad Wilmouth noticed, Mitchell complained about Obama: “He could have tried to tie John McCain more closely to George Bush.”

Matching that theme, on NBC Tom Brokaw lamented:

I thought Senator Obama missed a couple of opportunities in the earlier economic debate. I would have expected him to talk a little more about the need for regulations on Wall Street, governing these banks and the kinds of transactions that took place. And I was surprised he didn't work harder at pinning John McCain to the eight years of the Bush administration.

Shortly after the debate ended, CBS went to Byron Pitts at CBS television show test center at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas where he was with one hundred “undecided voters” who used dials to react to each candidate during the debate. The camera view only showed a few of the participants, but when Pitts asked who they thought won the debate, more hands went up for Obama than McCain.

Pitts selected just one person to give their reaction, an Obama supporter from Chicago who contended:

I thought, it reminded me a little bit of the Kennedy-Nixon debate. Obama came across very relaxed, very articulate. Senator McCain came across just like Richard Nixon, a little bit stressed. He showed much more emotion than Obama did.

To end the 20 minutes, just before 11 PM EDT anchor Katie Couric went to Sharyl Attkisson for results from a CBS News/Knowledge Networks “poll of approximately 500 uncommitted voters.” She highlighted several results, starting with how on who won 40 percent said Obama, 22 percent replied McCain and 38 percent considered it a tie; and ending with how 46 percent said their opinion of Barack Obama has gotten better compared to just 7 percent whose opinion grew worse.

She didn't provide a number for McCain, perhaps because she ran out of time, but the CBSNews.com posting provided an answer: “Thirty-two percent said their opinion of McCain got better.”

Highlights from MSNBC between 10:40 and 10:59 PM EDT, as gathered by Brad Wilmouth:

ANDREA MITCHELL: Yeah, I think that Barack Obama missed opportunities, on the economic issues, to show more of a connection. He let the debate focus on taxes and budget cuts, rather than on pocketbook issues that are of key concern not only to Democratic voters, but independent voters, swing voters. So I think he could have been punchier on that. He could have tried to tie John McCain more closely to George Bush. On foreign policy, Obama certainly looked as though he were conversant. He had all the facts at his command. But, again, John McCain was dismissive toward him several times, calling him naive – you don't understand tactics, you don't understand strategy– trying to diminish him in the eyes of the viewers and, of course, the voters. And I'm not sure whether that was something that people will find offensive, frankly.

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MATTHEWS: Linda, my friend, why did your candidate agree so much -- openly and relentlessly -- with his opponent tonight?

LINDA DOUGLASS, OBAMA SENIOR ADVISER: Well, I think there were several areas of agreement, and I think the American people are looking for a new kind of politics where there are not automatic, knee-jerk, partisan responses. When there's agreement to be made, you should acknowledge that. That's the way that a President Obama would operate in a bipartisan Washington.

MATTHEWS: Second question: Why didn't he talk more about the terrible state of the economy, the jobless rate, unemployment, the degree of deficit we're in right now, the degree of national debt, all of those issues out there that effect the average person, the number of foreclosures? He let his opponent talk about taxes and earmarking, his specialties. He seemed to lose control of the economic topic.

DOUGLASS: Oh, I think that's not, I wouldn't agree with that at all, Chris. I mean, I think he made it very clear, and the reason that we think that he won this debate tonight is he made it very clear that he's the one who's going to bring change to the domestic economy. He's the one who's going to be the advocate for the struggling middle class families who can't afford to send their kids to college, who can't afford gas, who can't afford the high price of food even. He's made it very clear that he's going to provide a middle class tax cut, affordable college, accessible, affordable health care, a new energy economy. And John McCain made it very clear that he's going to continue doing exactly what George Bush has done over the last eight years, the very policies that have sucked us into an economic disaster.

MATTHEWS: Linda, thank you very much. We're out of time. Thank you very much. Senior policy advisor Linda Douglass, with the Barack Obama campaign, thanks for joining us tonight. There you have the spin. They did think they made the case on the economy. You and I, I think, agree they lost a bit of the edge they should have enjoyed.

MITCHELL: I think he should have turned away from taxes and earmarks very quickly and really hammered away on George Bush and on what this $700 billion or $1 trillion problem really means for average people.

MATTHEWS: He said at the convention, in accepting the nomination, he was going to make John McCain own the failures of the last seven and eight years, and he didn't do it tonight. He didn't focus on those failures.

MITCHELL: I think he could have been more combative. He seemed to be more genial than you might have expected. But, boy, he did show a command of foreign policy in terms of the nuts and bolts of it. And, of course, that is the expertise of John McCain.

—Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center


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    Mr McCain did a

 

 

Mr McCain did a wonderful job of explaining him self with out all of the BS and blame games.

 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Blame game

with out all of the BS and blame games.

That is what bugs me more than anything else about the left, they always blame, blame, blame and can't just lay out what they propose to do. Every problem we have started in Jan. 2001, Hillary fixed health care and Bush ruined it, Bill gave everyone a million bucks and Bush took it away, Bill appeased al Quaeda, Bush angered them.

Sheesh!

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snapshot of last night's polls

Both CNN and Fox had "punch in" polling. Here were the numbers about midnight:
:                         CNN             FoxNews        TOTALS
McCain                30317             73800           104117
Obama                73250             15300             88550
These results show a few things:
1) for the total of all Democrats and Republicans and Independents, more voted for McCain where the vote ratio was 44% for Obama, but 56% percent for McCain.
2) CNN has a viewership that is mostly Democrats, that is a ratio of 3:1 over Republicans, yet Obama only got 7:3 ratio which, when a common denominator is used, yields 7:3 ratio out of 9:3 proving that many Democrats switched sides, at least when looking at debate performance. (A tie ratio would have been 9:3, but Obama only got 7:3).
3) FoxNews viewship is mostly Republicans, and that ratio is about 7:5 over Democrats according to recent viewer's survey. In this case McCain got a ratio of 3:1 and when the common denominator is changed for comparison we see that with a viewership of 7:5 McCain got a vote of confidence of 15:5 which exceeds a tie of 7:5 by 2 to 1
4) There was of course some independent voters in the mix, so the ratios are not perfect, but still close
5) Finally, the FoxNews poll also shows a much larger percentage of Democrats watch FoxNews than the percentage of Republicans that watch CNN.  Could it be that FoxNews presents both sides more fairly that CNN?
Ans: I watched the interviews after the debate and very strong arguments were allowed to be made by spokespersons from both McCain and Obama camps on FoxNews. I have watched CNN on occasion in the past, just to compare, and sure enough, CNN lets a Republicn who is a "numb nuts" speak on behalf of McCain/Palin, but picks the brightest Democrat to speak for Obama/Biden.
7) I believe it was 6 times Obama had to say something like, "Sen McCain is absolutely right", while McCain only agreed with Obama ever so slightly on a few key points (like doing something about the financial crisis). It seems McCain articulated much better, which was not just debating skills alone, but he has more knowledge in the background of all issues.
8) This simple survey shows that all the MSM commentators are clearly in the Obama camp, because they all said Obama won the debates, but the combined Democrat-Republican survey I just did proves them to be biased at bias can get.
9) I watched a discussion afterwards, where Juan Williams could NOT look anyone in the face when he said Obama won the debate and also while explaining why, showing Mr Williams, in truth, did not believe what he was saying. He finally did look the moderator in the face for those things that were simple statements of fact, however, proving he was embarassed when he lacked confidence in his support of Obama, but OK when what he said was just a statement of fact. All the other commentators looked the moderator in the face, because they all provided more balanced comments that were fairly truthful, including those comments favoring Obama. No one looked down or away when providing favorable comments for McCain.

It's amazing to see these

It's amazing to see these people circle the wagons and try and pull Obama's ass out of the fire on this one. They're all saying McCain lost this because he didn't blow Obama out of the water on the Foreign Policy part... but they all admit McCain won that argument, but not by enough... so he actually lost... That's like saying that a football team that is supposed to be the best, only wins by a field goal.... so they actually lost. How stupid is that???

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"A society that puts equality...ahead of freedom will end up with neither equality nor freedom." ~ Milton Friedman

And please, even if Obama

And please, even if Obama did nothing more than drool and make gurgling noises for 2 hours, the liberal media would be saying McCain lost so I'm not buying the notion that McCain lost because he failed to issue the "knockout blow".  They're also making an issue of McCain never looking directly at Obama during the debate, but ignoring how Obama often appeared rattled, edgy and sweaty for a good portion of the debate. And if McCain actually did issue "the knockout blow" the media would be complaing about how harsh and unfair he came across. So McCain fails to issue the knockout blow -- McCain loses.  McCain issues a knockout blow - -- McCain loses. The liberal media see what they want to see.

Makes me wonder if the

Makes me wonder if the usual gang of idiots at CBS (Complete Bull S**t)  watched the same debate as I did.  John McCain was clearly more prepared for this than was Obama. Obama was on the defense most of the time, and appeared uncomfortable.  He also attempted to interupt Senator McCain on quite a few occasions.

Regarding "the economy", I just don't understand how Obama gets these brilliant, glowing high marks and is "better equipped" at making the economy better. (well, actually I do understand: it's the lamestream media trying desperately to make him look good...)

Foreign policy?  Obama doesn't have a clue, but he got high marks again from the delusional left.

What was Obama's great economic vision plan?  The usual class envy little-guy vs big-guy nonsense: there are the "good people" and the "bad people" in America, and apparently the bad ones make over $250K a year.  They should be punished and penalized financially for their hard work and success and probably for having the audacity to get a good education; that extra tax money will be redistributed to the lowly, unwashed, ignorant masses who just barely squeak by.  Yeah, Obummer is a true friend of the "little guy" and apparently some people bought this line of pure bullshit!

McCain was also described as being "too aggressive" and even "antagonistic".  Ain't that too bad.

You know

This spin is so intense I'm getting dizzy!

 

My winner...didn't watch most of it.  My vote is for Chuck Baldwin.  I have said this before to people I know and I will say this again, the two party system has screwed us into the ground and deeper into socialism.  My vote for Baldwin is my saying to the two-party system...SCREW YOU!

a can of worms!!!

how can obama mention any of the hot topics of the day with out a swift rebuke.iraq....saddam gone, elected goverment ,surge worked. unemployment...lower than the70's, 80's, 90's.. bridge to nowhere...gazebogate, ill. govenor buddy about to be indicted, dems. killed bill in 2005 to reign in fannie/freddie. actually,the entire crew had a hand in the current mess...how can the people who put us here be trusted to unravel it.