Three Sundays ago, in a 60 Minutes interview CBS's Steve Kroft cued up Barack Obama with Sarah Palin's presumed lack of qualifications compared to him: “Does the fact that he chose as his Vice President someone who has less experience than you take that weapon out of his arsenal?” But on Sunday night, in a 60 Minutes devoted to new interviews with both Obama and John McCain, Scott Pelley also hit McCain from the same angle on Palin's qualifications, telling him “the criticism of Governor Palin is that she was a brilliant marketing choice for the campaign, but she's not well versed on the economy or foreign affairs,” before he demanded: “In your judgment, can you see her as President of the United States?” When McCain replied “Absolutely,” Pelley's voice betrayed astonishment as he fired back: “As President of the United States?”
Steve Kroft again got the sit-down with Obama and when Obama contended that if he loses, his race will not be the cause, Kroft countered that he knows “for a fact...there are a lot of people out there...who won't vote for you because you're black.” Kroft declared as the two sat in Elko, Nevada:
I know, for a fact, that there are a lot of people out there, there are a lot of people right here in Elko, who won't vote for you because you're black. I mean, there's not much you can do. But how do you deal with it? I mean, are there ways that, from a political point of view, that you can deal with it? And how do you fight that?
Kroft did at least challenge Obama with whether it's “a good idea to be raising taxes at a time when the country seems to be broke?” and how if his legislation to pull “all the troops out” of Iraq in 16 months had passed, “we would have missed the surge, we would have missed the reduction in violence.”
Pelley pressed McCain on why Plain isn't more available to the media:
Senator Biden, Senator Obama's running mate, has done 84 interviews and news conferences by our count. And Governor Palin has done two. And I wonder why that is. There's a perception that you might be nervous about what she might say, that you're not putting her in front of reporters.
The two interviews each aired in two parts on the four-segment 60 Minutes of Sunday, September 21. The CBSNews.com posted transcript and video of Pelley with McCain and of Kroft with Obama.
My August 31 NewsBusters posting, “Kroft Cues Up Obama to Agree Palin 'Has Less Experience than You,'” recounted:
CBS's 60 Minutes led Sunday night with a taped interview with the Democratic ticket and in the piece Steve Kroft, who couldn't resist labeling Sarah Palin as a "conservative" while never tagging Joe Biden, presumed as fact that Palin "has less experience" than Obama and cued up Obama to agree with his own campaign's rhetoric about how Palin undermines McCain's experience argument: "Does the fact that he chose as his Vice President someone who has less experience than you take that weapon out of his arsenal?"...
Palin was first elected to the Wasilla city council in 1992 and has held statewide office since 2003 (chair of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission before becoming Governor in December of 2006). Obama assumed his state senate seat in 1997 and, though a U.S. Senator since 2005, he soon after launched his presidential run and has hardly been working as a Senator.
Bottom line: As traditionally measured for politicians, neither has all that much experience, especially compared to McCain or Biden, and while whose life experience makes them better-qualified to become the #2 or #1 can be debated, it was ridiculous for Kroft to assert as a fact that Palin "has less experience" than Obama, especially since he's going for the top spot.
Kroft also, as noted above, never applied an ideological label to either Obama or Biden, but didn't hesitate with Palin: "Senator McCain tried to steal the Democrats' thunder by announcing that Alaska's conservative first-term Governor, 44-year-old Sarah Palin, would be his running mate."...
Portion of the Pelley/McCain session dealing with Palin:
PELLEY: The criticism of Governor Palin is that she was a brilliant marketing choice for the campaign, but she's not well versed on the economy or foreign affairs.McCAIN: Well, actually, the most popular governor in America so, and the largest, geographically state,. But the most important thing is-
PELLEY: But foreign affairs and the economy, those are things that people are concerned about.
McCAIN: First of all, anybody who's governed a state has some economic experience. And by the way, she cut taxes. The second thing is she shares the world view that I have.
PELLEY: Is it true you only met her a couple of times before you selected her?
McCAIN: I'd only known her a few times but a couple of times. But I had watched her very carefully. I had followed her career.
PELLEY: How'd you make that decision?
McCAIN: Well, I based it on what's the best for the country. I looked at her record. I looked at her.
PELLEY: In your judgment, can you see her as President of the United States?
McCAIN: Absolutely.
PELLEY: As President of the United States?
McCAIN: Absolutely, absolutely.
PELLEY: Senator Biden, Senator Obama's running mate, has done 84 interviews and news conferences by our count. And Governor Palin has done two. And I wonder why that is. There's a perception that you might be nervous about what she might say, that you're not putting her in front of reporters.
McCAIN: She's gonna be doing more all the time. She's, as you know, been introduced to the country. We're campaigning hard. Look, everybody that has met her and known her and the enthusiasm of these crowds, the American people are vetting her. And they're liking a lot what they're seeing.
Portion of Kroft with Obama about race:
KROFT: When we did our very first interview, and I asked you, I said "Do you think the country's ready for a black President," you said that you didn't think it would hold you back. That if you don't win this race it will be because of other factors. Do you still believe that?
OBAMA: Yes. I believe it even more now. We're only 47 days out and I'm still here.
KROFT: I know, for a fact, that there are a lot of people out there, there are a lot of people right here in Elko, who won't vote for you because you're black. I mean, there's not much you can do. But how do you deal with it? I mean, are there ways that, from a political point of view, that you can deal with it? And how do you fight that?
—Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center
Comments Policy
Is the race thing really a
September 21, 2008 - 21:01 ET by dmntd1Is the race thing really a surprise? The racist white dems would rather vote for a white man than a black man. There's little/no surprise in that.
Sticking with the party of Jim Crow, segregation and the KKK will be all of the black people that believe in 'change'.
I actually had someone last week tell me they didn't know enough about politics right now, they were waiting for the debates to see "which one will give me more".
"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy." - Winston Churchill
When will people realize...
September 21, 2008 - 21:17 ET by Tom1969ca... that the government isn't giving them money; the government is letting them keep more money that's already theirs?
I asked a friend the other day, "If you have $100 in your pocket, and a mugger takes $80 ... did the mugger give you $20?" And yet that's how many people view taxes...
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"There are some who use change to promote their careers, and then there are those who use their careers to promote change."
--Sarah Palin
a little give and take
September 21, 2008 - 23:24 ET by mom_roxAt least Joe Biden was being honest when he said, "We want to TAKE money and put it back in the pocket of middle-class people."
What's the difference between Barack Obama and Sarah Palin?
One is eye candy while the other kills her own food.
mom-rox, he's still not
September 22, 2008 - 06:06 ET by motherbeltmom-rox, he's still not being honest.
Joe, if you want to put it "back" that means you took it from them in the first place. So go ahead and give them "back" however much of their own money you want to. That doesn't require taking it from someone else first.
To be honest, he'd have to say I want to take money from the wealthy and give it middle-class families.
As someone's tagline says: a government that robs from Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
good catch, mb
September 22, 2008 - 11:11 ET by mom_roxI was so focused on the taking part that I didn't notice the "put back" verbiage.
What's the difference between Barack Obama and Sarah Palin?
One is eye candy while the other kills her own food.
Is the race thing really a surprise?
September 21, 2008 - 21:30 ET by general companyIt realy is, Who knew K Bush would blow a motor? Hell I was suprized?
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
GC
September 22, 2008 - 07:35 ET by HeavyChevyThat's the other kind of Race-ism :-)
by the way 8 races to go the weasel still might pull it off.
"9 out of 10 doctors agree that flag burning is the number one killer of liberals."
I think it’s a stretch
September 21, 2008 - 21:12 ET by balboaI think it’s a stretch to, in any way, to say that she’s got the experience to be president of the United States."
“I think they ought to be just honest about it and stop the nonsense about, ‘I look out my window and I see Russia and so therefore I know something about Russia,’” he said. “That kind of thing is insulting to the American people.”
Chuck Hagel, R
Fixed your typo, Bal...
September 21, 2008 - 21:18 ET by Tom1969caFixed.
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"There are some who use change to promote their careers, and then there are those who use their careers to promote change."
--Sarah Palin
Chuck Hagel, R Isn't
September 21, 2008 - 21:18 ET by NewsbusterbrownChuck Hagel, R
Isn't that like bashing your side with a Zell Miller quotation? You would be up in arms if it were done.
“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
Up in arms? Doubtful. I'm
September 21, 2008 - 21:21 ET by balboaUp in arms? Doubtful. I'm just showing that there are people besides "lefties" who think Palin is a bad idea.
So don't vote for
September 21, 2008 - 21:26 ET by Indiana JoeSo don't vote for her.
Simple.
Sheesh.
"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall
Well, IJ, maybe I
September 21, 2008 - 21:32 ET by balboaWell, IJ, maybe I won't...and maybe I won't. :-)
This is what I find interesting
September 21, 2008 - 21:42 ET by Indiana Joeand amazing. I don't remember ever having one side be so fixated on talking another side out of a VP pick. Or, even a Presidential pick. Sure, people will give reasons not to vote for a candidate, and try to talk them into voting for their candidate. That is natural.
But this isn't: Begging and pleading and trying to "help out" by implying that we should make a "better" pick, or change to someone else. If Palin is such a bad pick, and will cost the ticket the election, what's with all the frantic "advice?" It's gone way beyond mere criticism to outright political advice. Why not just sit back, enjoy the ride, and celebrate the sure victory that such a "bad choice" will bring the Dems?
It's kind of like a football team telling the opponent, "Hey, don't start that quarterback. We have him all figured out. You don't stand a chance. Try that other guy. He's good!"
Talking about Palin becoming President isn't just a ghoulish reference to McCain's age; it's almost conceding the election!
Please don't throw me in the briarpatch, br'er Boa.
Thoughts? ;^)
"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall
IJ, just because I think
September 21, 2008 - 21:54 ET by balboaIJ, just because I think she's a bad choice doesn't mean I think the Republicans or McCain should get rid of her. I think it's a great move for the Republicans, PR-wise.
But I hate the thought of Palin actually becoming president, should something unfortunate happen to McCain.
Well, you can't deny that's what's happening here
September 21, 2008 - 22:27 ET by Indiana JoeMost people on the left criticizing Palin think Mac should dump her. No bones about it. And that's very telling, IMO.
OTOH, "Talking about Palin becoming President isn't just a ghoulish reference to McCain's age; it's almost conceding the election!" seems to fit you to a "T." I don't recall a similar argument against Quayle, or Cheney. As for McCain's health, check the actuarial tables, and get back to me on that one.
Why so scared of Palin, bal? Afraid she's going to re-instate the Inquisition? Make hunting compulsory? Repeal the Constituion? Sic the IRS on dissidents? Oh, wait, that's the other guys. Never mind.
Palin is the only real "outsider," the only real "agent of change" out of all four of the candidates. She's a perfect example of "the people" of this country, about whom, by whom, and for whom this country is supposed to be. Saying she "doesn't have experience" is just another way of saying she's an "outsider." Giving lip-service to the concept of "We, the people" is a popular political ploy. Palin embodies it.
Do you really want "change" in Washington? REAL change, as opposed to just a gentle shift of emphasis? Then vote for the family-raising, church-attending, moose-hunting, PTA hockey mom! She's real, bal. She's a "citizen-legislator" in the traditional American sense (no snickering, please). That will be change. Change from career politicians.
And that's change I really can believe in.
"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall
IJ, I'm not "afraid" of
September 22, 2008 - 09:15 ET by balboaIJ, I'm not "afraid" of Palin. Just don't think she's presidential material. It probably won't happen, and most likely if McCain wins Palin will just...do whatever it is that VPs do. McCain will either continue backing Bush policies or his own former ideals.
"Family-raising, church-attending, moose-hunting, PTA hockey mom" is not an ideal description of a VP, IMO.
»→ OK bal
September 22, 2008 - 09:28 ET by Cool ArrowAre you just enamored with what voting for Obama says about you?
"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" - Joe Biden 6/12/87
Unfortunately, if I do wind
September 22, 2008 - 09:48 ET by balboaUnfortunately, if I do wind up voting for Obama, it'll be because he's the closest thing to a desirable candidate, not because he's clearly an unbelievable pick.
»→ That's good
September 22, 2008 - 09:53 ET by Cool ArrowLost in all this "White people won't vote for a black candidate" nonsense is the fact that Obama would not have won the Primary but for his race.
A 20 year association with a Preacher who hates black people would have excluded him early.
"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" - Joe Biden 6/12/87
As usual, balboa
September 22, 2008 - 11:46 ET by Indiana Joeyou're talking in circles. You illustrate the point that it's hard to hit a moving target. I quote: "I hate the idea" of Palin as VP. Hate. Your word. Hate. But not "fear?" You don't "hate" her because you "fear" what it would do to our country? Then, why do you "hate the idea?"
She's not "presidential material," huh? Well, good thing she's not running for president. But now you back off the certainty that McCain will die in office to state "it probably won't happen." If you'd have started with that premise, we could have saved a lot of bandwidth. And time.
And the only people you consider worthy to govern us is our "betters" that have spent most of their lives trying to gain as much power over us as possible? The idea of being governed by an average person scares you, balboa? "Church-attending" is a disqualifyer? "Hockey-mom," "family-raising?"
Don't bother weaseling by saying "not a disqualifier, just not a qualifier." You look down your nose at the idea of someone like Palin having any power, because you don't consider her worthy. You've bought into the idea that you should be governed by your "betters." You want to be led by lawyers, politicos, economists, degreed people, people who have papers saying how smart they are, how educated they are, how much better than us they are. Just listen to them tell us how much more than us they know.
Well, have fun with that. But myself, and a lot of other folks it seems, are slipping the yoke, and tossing the reins. The MSM and the left can't figure out why Obama and themselves are considered "elitist," but the response to Palin is what really defines it. That's when the term "elitist" started circulating, didn't it? Never occurred to me before, but that's a big part of what's been happening.
I'm not too good to vote for a strong, independent woman. I'm not buying any of the fear-mongering that has been the left's stock-in-trade since Reagan at least. And you'll never admit how wrong your reasoning is, no matter how obvious it becomes. You'll just nit-pick the trees, ignoring the forest. I think most of America feels like I do about our "rulers." Time will tell.
Thirty.
"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall
you're talking in
September 22, 2008 - 14:19 ET by balboayou're talking in circles.
You're welcome.
You illustrate the point that it's hard to hit a moving target. I quote: "I hate the idea" of Palin as VP. Hate. Your word. Hate. But not "fear?" You don't "hate" her because you "fear" what it would do to our country? Then, why do you "hate the idea?"
I hate it because I don't think she'd be very good. I don't fear it because America is greater than her faults.
She's not "presidential material," huh? Well, good thing she's notrunning for president.
Duh. I was stating my reservations SHOULD McCain die.
But now
you back off the certainty that McCain will die in office to state "it
probably won't happen."
Never said it was a certainty, so I'm not backing off anything.
If you'd have started with that premise, we
could have saved a lot of bandwidth. And time.
Again, you're welcome.
The idea of being governed
September 22, 2008 - 14:21 ET by balboaThe idea of being governed by an average person scares
you, balboa?
No. Not sure it's ideal, though.
"Church-attending" is a disqualifyer? "Hockey-mom,"
"family-raising?"
No, but the notion that she's some great right wing Messiah because she is all those things is silly.
You're the one that said
September 22, 2008 - 14:49 ET by Indiana JoeYou're the one that said those points don't qualify her. You look at them as negatives, it's clear. Your implications speak for themselves. You have a habit of leaving yourself the wiggle room of "I never said that." You do it all the time. But you toss out an implication, and when called on it, your answer is almost invariably, "I never said that."
You are against Palin because she's not a career politician. You obviously consider that to be a drawback. I don't think she's a Messiah, nice try. But I don't hold her genuine lifestyle against her, as you continue to do. I say it makes her have more in common with the average American than your normal politician. I'm not afraid of a normal average person being in a position of power. I don't "hate the idea." I can understand and trust a Palin's motivations more than some beltway insider, whose idea of governance is for me to just listen to them. I want a policitician who will listen to me. And I think Palin is closer to that than Obama. Or McCain, for that matter.
"Not sure it's ideal, though." Gee, I never said it was ideal! See how that works? I say it's acceptable. Get it? See the difference?
She's real, she's genuine, she wasn't put together by a focus group, or had her positions staked out based on the latest poll. She's being checked and double-checked by the media all the time, she's more vetted than Obama and Leiberman put together, and they haven't found anything that sticks yet. If I needed anymore proof that she's a good pick, the constant attacks on her would be it.
She's the real "breath of fresh air" that everyone has claimed to want. But it seems it's a case of "be careful what you wish for" for some people.
"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall
IJ, you're inferring
September 22, 2008 - 17:16 ET by balboaIJ, you're inferring implications instead of reading what I post. I said those points don't qualify her. I don't look at them as negatives, though. How stupid would that be?
"Family-raising, church-attending, moose-hunting, PTA hockey mom" is not an ideal description of a VP, IMO.
It's not. That's all. If that's ALL you have going for you, you're not an ideal VP. That doesn't mean those things make you a bad person. If we had the same qualifications for Biden, wouldn't you be apoplectic that liberals considered only those things as qualifications for VP?
But somehow that description makes her "folksy" so suddenly she's the best VP candidate, OF ALL TIME!!!
Well...
September 22, 2008 - 04:38 ET by Joe C.I hate the thought of B. Hussein as President. I can't imagine the havoc that will be wrought with a Marxist as Pres., a foreign policy moron who is supposed to be the smart one, and Commies in charge of both houses of Congress.
Just in case you weren't aware...
September 21, 2008 - 21:30 ET by Scout FinchThere was more to Palin's "Russia" comment that CBS edited out.
http://marklevinshow...
The Hell you say!
September 21, 2008 - 21:33 ET by Indiana JoeI couldn't believe that of them! Not CBS! Is nothing sacred anymore? </sarc>
"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall
Doesn't really tell me much.
September 21, 2008 - 21:39 ET by balboaDoesn't really tell me much. She thinks Russia is important. Shocking.
And Obama's crucial comments are.....
September 21, 2008 - 21:49 ET by Scout Finch...
Balboa, Hagel is one
September 21, 2008 - 21:52 ET by IamTinmanHagel is one of the weirdest RINOs in congress.
This is the guy who offered to run as VP with Obama after announcing in 2004 that he would be running in 2008 and finding out he wouldn't carry any state except Nebraska. This is a guy who like his idol can't bring himself to admit that the surge is working but says he will take the Sec of Defence job in an Obama administration.
I don't think he's going to sway too many folks who have a clue of his track record.
Up in arms? Doubtful. I'm
September 21, 2008 - 21:56 ET by NewsbusterbrownUp in arms? Doubtful. I'm just showing that there are people besides "lefties" who think Palin is a bad idea.
Except that you know that Hagel likes to be a thorn in Republican sides.
Do you accept certified liberal Joe Lieberman's word when he beats up Obama on foreign policy? I thought not.
“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
I respect Lieberman's
September 21, 2008 - 22:14 ET by balboaI respect Lieberman's opinion, and think he's right, actually, smarty-pants. I hardly need Lieberman's say-so to tell me that.
You mean, you don't agree
September 21, 2008 - 22:30 ET by Indiana JoeYou mean, you don't agree 100% with both members of the Dem ticket? But you're willing to entertain the idea of voting for it?
Shocking... just... shocking. ;^)
"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall
"I know, I know, the "War
September 21, 2008 - 22:43 ET by ckc1227"Up in arms? Doubtful. I'm just showing that there are people besides "lefties" who think Palin is a bad idea."
And yet you quoted basically a lefty to make your point. What's next, quoting Lincoln Chafee as proof Republicans don't like Palin?
Anyone making the "Palin lacks experience to be president" argument without also making the same argument about Obama, a presidential candidate, not a vp candidate, is being intellectually dishonest and a partisan hack.
Sarah never said that
September 22, 2008 - 07:39 ET by red_dragon311Sarah never said that ...Tina Fey pretending to be Sarah said it...right
FINALY A REAL CANDIATE FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!
http://zod2008.com/index.htm
If Obama loses because "America is racist".....
September 21, 2008 - 21:22 ET by Scout FinchDoesn't that mean that Democrats are racist? Because, in reality, Republicans or conservatives were never going to vote for Obama under any circumstances, based solely on politics. But if this "race" race hinges on one group, I would think it would be a group of Democrats that would otherwise for Obama, if only he weren't black.
Perfect logic, Scout
September 21, 2008 - 21:30 ET by Indiana JoeThe "racial" aspect will effect their base, just like it came up in the primaries. All the accusations about race being a factor had to apply to the Dems, because it was them choosing their candidate.
Of course, they'll claim that the "undecideds" were scared by the "right" brining up Obama's race. You know, "he doesn't look like you." Or "he doesn't look like those other guys on dollar bills."
It was Republicans who said those things, right? Right?
Oh... well,... never mind.
"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall
Reality has a way of rearing it's ugly head
September 21, 2008 - 21:37 ET by Scout FinchEspecially when that ugly head belongs to a Democrat, not a "swing voter" tainted by Obama's own words about "he doesn't look like those other guys on dollar bills".
Are Blacks Racist?
September 21, 2008 - 21:37 ET by Lee BoggsIt was refreshing to hear Barack acknowledge that he is getting the black vote because he is black.
But he stopped short of calling it what it is...racism.
Another concession of
September 22, 2008 - 02:56 ET by SchnikeysAnother concession of Dem/lib racism in the bag.
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"My morality is your morality."
PELLEY: Senator Biden,
September 21, 2008 - 21:54 ET by MidAmericaPELLEY: Senator Biden, Senator Obama's running mate, has done 84 interviews and news conferences by our count.
And except for the stupid stuff biden says does anyone know or care what he said in all those interviews?
'Come on Chuck, stand up!'
Race baiting MSM
September 21, 2008 - 22:05 ET by ChasvsIf there's going to be a Race Riot after this election, you can thank the MSM and Democrats for fanning the flames!
These Racist bastards are the only people making anything of Obama's race!
Since the Republicans aren't focusing on Obama's race, he, the Democrata dna the MSM are doing it for them.
Bring it on if you will, but Barack Obama MUST be defeated!
I wouldn't worry too much
September 21, 2008 - 22:18 ET by MidAmericaI wouldn't worry too much about any race riots. We had lot's of them back in the sixties. They usually just burn down their own houses and neighborhoods.
And don't forget the Korean
September 21, 2008 - 22:32 ET by Indiana JoeAnd don't forget the Korean groceries in LA. Or Jewish stores in Harlem.
And then they complain that no outsiders want to invest in their neighborhoods.
Go figure.
"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall
And, why is it that a
September 22, 2008 - 04:01 ET by tomnkikiAnd, why is it that a Republican commenter on a news show hints at blacks voting for Obama because he's black and not voting for McCain is called "reverse racism" by the shows anchor? How about calling it what it is? It's RACISM plain and simple. There is nothing "reverse" about it. I guess if your skin is a bit darker than pinky-beige, it's acceptable to be racist, and we'll even cloak it in a more acceptable term, "reverse racism".
Also, did the LSM(lame stream media) ever consider the fact that people won't vote for Obama because they just don't like his positions on issues and oculd care less about the color of his skin? Just because we don't all pee ourselves at the mention of The One or worship at the altar of The Obamassiah doesn't mean we are racist. It simply means we don't like what he stands for, and we believe that McCain would be better for our country and us, personally. Get over yourselves and your race and quit playing the race card as the only way you can win elections. Start winning them on your merits, not foul play.
Voters
September 21, 2008 - 23:14 ET by ProudAmerican33There are millions of voters who won't vote for McCain because he's white. That hasn't seemed to have been covered too much.
"I know for a fact, that there are a lot of people out there..."
September 21, 2008 - 23:43 ET by PrairieSky"...who won't vote for you because you're black."
Yeah, Mr. Kroft, and I know, for a fact, that there are even more people out there that WILL vote for Obama just BECAUSE he's black....But we never hear about that, do we??
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan, January 20, 1981
Prairie Sky, My thoughts
September 22, 2008 - 04:40 ET by USA4freedomPrairie Sky,
My thoughts too..
KROFT: I know, for a fact, that there are a lot of people out there, there are a lot of people right here in Elko, who won't vote for you because you're black.
USA4FREDOM: I know for a fact that there are a lot of people out there, there are a lot of people right there in:
ST. Louis – 51% black
Detroit- 81% black
Flint Mi- 53.3% black
Compton Ca- 40% black, Hispanic (56.8%)
Camden NJ- 53% black, Hispanic 39%
Birmingham Ala- 73.5% black
Cleveland OH- 51%
Oakland Ca- 36% black 22% Hispanic
Youngstown OH- 44% black
Gary Ind- 84% black
Richmond Ca- 36% black, 26.5 % Hispanic
Baltimore MD- 64% black
Memphis Tn- 61% black
Trenton NJ- 52% black, Hispanic 25%
Richmond Va- 57% black
Kansas City Mo.-32% black
Atlanta Ga- 61% black
Cincinnati Oh- 43% black
Washington DC- 60% black
North Charleston SC- 49.4% Black
Reading Pa.- 12% Black, 37.3% Hispanic
Newark NJ- 53% black, 30% Hispanic
Little Rock Ark- 40% black
San Bernardino Ca- 47.5% Hispanic, 16% Black
Orlando Fl- 27% black, 17.5 Hispanic
Who won’t vote for you because you are WHITE.
BTW if you wonder where this list came from, it’s the most dangerous cities.
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0921299.html
All of these cities are under Democratic control, (funny how crime and the Democratic party goes hand in hand) can you say ACORN..
They are so worried that there is not enough white guilt to vote him in.
So if say 60% of whites don’t vote for Obama that’s racist, but if 98% of blacks don’t vote for Mc Cain that’s OK..
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
"Senator Biden, Senator
September 22, 2008 - 04:51 ET by USA4freedom"Senator Biden, Senator Obama's running mate, has done 84 interviews and news conferences by our count. And Governor Palin has done two. And I wonder why that is. There's a perception that you might be nervous about what she might say, that you're not putting her in front of reporters."
Maybe if, when she does an interview, you don't cut and edit her interview to fit what you want, she would give more.. You pile of %$&#@ !!!!!!
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
What was Pelley thinking?
September 22, 2008 - 07:19 ET by CrashKROFT [to Obama]: I know, for a fact, that there are a lot of people out there, there are a lot of people right here in Elko, (people, democrats just like me) who won't vote for you because you're black.
PELLEY [to McCain]: In your judgment, can you see her (a chick) as President of the United States?
McCAIN: Absolutely.
PELLEY: As President of the United States? (Come on John, in my circle women are inferior to men, and just under a black men. Even Hillary couldn't beat Obama and she's more like a dude).
Elko won't vote Obama?
September 22, 2008 - 07:31 ET by SickofLibsI wouldn't count on Mooso, either.
I guess I am confused. Are
September 22, 2008 - 09:54 ET by bassndudeI guess I am confused. Are we voting for a President or aginst a Vice President?
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Obama being black
September 22, 2008 - 09:58 ET by Solrac760 minutes is right. I won't vote for Obama because he is black. But, I wouldn't vote for him if he was white, red, brown, yellow or polka dot. I'm not voting for him because he is a stinking liberal puke and, in my opinion, a communist & anti American. Excuse me for being redundant. I'm not that hip on McCain either but at least you know that he is a patriotic American. I just hope he does not open the flood gates of imigration. And Sarah, 100% red blooded American. Her not being from Washington is the greatest plus. The place has been run by idiots for years who are insiders. Doesn't seem to have worked very well.
Obama's black?
September 22, 2008 - 10:49 ET by mcg0125Obama is no more black than he is white. Last time I checked, his mother was white, and I'm not aware of him having 47 chromosomes.
But who am I to let the facts get in the way??
»→ Yes, He's black
September 22, 2008 - 10:53 ET by Cool ArrowI think we can give him the benefit of your doubt on this one.
"Don't taze me bro" - Joe Biden
Words in a subject field...
September 22, 2008 - 11:05 ET by mcg0125My point is that words mean something. If is acceptable to call him black, then it is just as acceptable to call him white. However, John McCain would be labled a racist, or more of a racist than he's already being labled as, if he referred to him as white.
I guess I put this in the same boat people claiming that we've been in a recession for the past year (or 7 years). They claim it, therefore it's true. I don't follow that logic.
However, this does not take away from the fact that Obama is a socialist. Stand up, Chuck!
»→ Not really
September 22, 2008 - 11:13 ET by Cool ArrowMaybe you should research attitudes (One Drop Rule) toward miscegenation in postbellum American South.
I don't buy off on what is, today, a lame attack on Obama's true color.
"Don't taze me bro" - Joe Biden
Your point about
September 22, 2008 - 11:57 ET by Indiana Joemiscegenation taken, CA. However, if we're going to define someone racially, we need to consider the method (man, it almost hurts to type that). The current method, government-approved, no less, has less to do with the "one-drop" rule, and more to do with percentages. And the point here is that, Obama is laying claim to the 50% he perceives as advantageous, while ignoring the 50% that presents no advantage. A glaringly opportunistic bit of pandering, I think.
Isn't this lovely? The "post-racial" candidate has us discussing the method by which we define what race a person fits into. How long before the terms "octaroon" and "passing" slip back into usage?
"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall
Kroft and Pelly are pure
September 22, 2008 - 12:02 ET by bigtimerKroft and Pelly are pure smear merchants for their party...let alone CBS/60 Minutes.
Btw...I's much rather have Palin as Prez than McCain...anyday...well so far anyway..
The more McCain keeps talking the more I am getting angry... from illegal immigration to this Wall Street/financial crisis melt-down.
I wished he would shut the heck up...I'm losing my guts to pull the lever for him, if Sarah comes out following him in all these areas I will revert back to where I was before....just a write in.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh