Gibson Accuses Palin of 'Hubris' and Seeing Iraq as 'a Holy War'

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Charles Gibson's interview with Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin, the first since her selection, not surprisingly focused mostly on pressing her to prove she's qualified for the job and quizzing her about foreign policy issues. While Gibson certainly treated her with more respect than would have many other national media figures, he did suggest her willingness to unhesitatingly accept John McCain's offer demonstrated “hubris” and he delved into what he described as her “provocative comments” on the Iraq war being part of “God's plan.” When he seemingly caught her unaware of the definition of the “Bush Doctrine,” he outlined its tenets without embarrassing her, yet he also veered close to condescension in asking if she had “ever travel[ed] outside the country” and: “Have you ever met a foreign head of state?”

Gibson began the World News excerpt, of the session recorded in Fairbanks, with what he termed “the central question,” namely: “Can you look the country in the eye and say 'I have the experience and I have the ability to be not just Vice President, but perhaps President of the United States of America?'” When she denied any hesitation about her abilities, Gibson asserted: “Doesn't that take some hubris?”After she cited her energy expertise, he countered: “National security is a whole lot more than energy.” He moved on to quizzing her about how, if the U.S. followed her advice to admit Ukraine and Georgia into NATO, “wouldn't we then have to go to war if Russia went into Georgia?”, whether she'd let Israel attack Iran and if she would approve of cross-border raids into Pakistan.

That segment consumed the first ten minutes or so of World News which ended with another interview excerpt in which Gibson paraphrased her as saying in June that “our national leaders are sending U.S. soldiers on a task that is from God.” After supporting You Tube video of Palin, Gibson demanded: “Are we fighting a holy war?” Unconvinced by her answer about how she only meant, as Lincoln urged, “let us pray that we are on God's side,” Gibson pounced: “But you went on and said, 'There is a plan and it is God's plan.'” He soon followed up again: “Are you sending your son on a task that is from God?”

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Plugging that second segment after the first one, Gibson declared: “Governor Palin made some provocative comments about the war in a recent appearance at an Alaskan church.”

This first interview was dedicated to national security. A second session, to be/which has been done since the first one will deal with other topics and these and other excerpts will air on Thursday's Nightline as well as Friday on Good Morning America, World News and 20/20.

ABCNews.com has posted a story about the interview, with a video clip.

Another ABCNews.com page has a transcript of much of the interview, including portions which did not air on World News, but is missing some of what aired.

Below is my corrected transcript of what ran on the Thursday, September 11 World News.

This first segment aired over about the first ten minutes of the newscast and includes a couple of paragraphs that are not part of the posted transcript and, again, matches the editing of what aired and so does not include all of what ABC posted online:

CHARLES GIBSON: Governor, let me start by asking you a question that I asked John McCain about you, and it is really the central question. Can you look the country in the eye and say "I have the experience and I have the ability to be not just Vice President, but perhaps President of the United States of America?"

SARAH PALIN: I do, Charlie, and on January 20th, when John McCain and I are sworn in, if we are so privileged to be elected to serve this country, we'll be ready. I'm ready.

GIBSON: When McCain asked you to take the number two spot on the ticket, for a moment did you think “no”?

PALIN: I did not. I thought yes right off the bat. When he offered me the position as his running mate, the first thing I said to him was, “If you really think I can help the ticket, if you really think I can help this country,” absolutely I want to do this with ya.

GIBSON: And you didn't say to yourself, "Am I experienced enough? Am I ready?”

PALIN: I didn't hesitate, no I-

GIBSON: Doesn't that take some hubris?

PALIN: I answered him yes because I have the confidence in that readiness and knowing that you can't blink, you have to be wired in a way of being so committed to the mission, the mission that we're on, reform of this country and victory in the war, you can't blink. So I didn't blink then even when asked to run as his running mate.

GIBSON: But this is not just reforming a government. This is also running a government on the huge international stage in a very dangerous world. When I asked John McCain about your national security credentials, he cited the fact that you have command the Alaskan National Guard and that Alaska is close to Russia. Are those sufficient credentials?

PALIN: But it is about reform of government and it's about putting government back on the side of the people, and that has much to do with foreign policy and national security issues Let me speak specifically about a credential that I do bring to this table, Charlie, and that's with the energy independence that I've been working on for these years as the Governor of this state that produces nearly 20 percent of the U.S. domestic supply of energy, that I worked on as Chairman of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, overseeing the oil and gas developments in our state to produce more for the United States.

GIBSON: National security is a whole lot more than energy.

PALIN: It is, but I want you to not lose sight of the fact that energy is a foundation of national security. It's that important. It's that significant.

GIBSON: Did you ever travel outside the country prior to your trip to Kuwait and Germany last year?

PALIN: Canada, Mexico, and then, yes, that trip, that was the trip of a lifetime to visit our troops in Kuwait and stop and visit our injured soldiers in Germany. That was a trip of a lifetime and it changed my life.

GIBSON: Have you ever met a foreign head of state?

PALIN: I have not and I think if you go back in history and if you ask that question of many vice presidents, they may have the same answer that I just gave you. But, Charlie, again, we've got to remember what the desire is in this nation at this time. It is for no more politics as usual and somebody's big, fat resume maybe that shows decades and decades in that Washington establishment, where, yes, they've had opportunities to meet heads of state.

GIBSON: Let me ask you about some specific national security situations.

PALIN: Sure.

GIBSON: Let's start, because we are near Russia, let's start with Russia and Georgia. The administration has said we've got to maintain the territorial integrity of Georgia. Do you believe the United States should try to restore Georgian sovereignty over South Ossetia and Abkhazia?

PALIN: First off, we're going to continue good relations with Saakashvili there. I was able to speak with him the other day and giving him my commitment, as John McCain's running mate, that we will be committed to Georgia. And we've got to keep an eye on Russia. For Russia to have exerted such pressure in terms of invading a smaller democratic country, unprovoked, is unacceptable and we have to keep-

GIBSON: You believe unprovoked.

PALIN: I do believe unprovoked and we have got to keep our eyes on Russia, under the leadership there.

GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?

PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska.

GIBSON: Favor putting Georgia and Ukraine into NATO?

PALIN: Ukraine, definitely, yes. Yes, and Georgia. Putin thinks otherwise. Obviously, he thinks otherwise, but-

GIBSON: And under the NATO treaty, wouldn't we then have to go to war if Russia went into Georgia?

PALIN: Perhaps so. I mean, that is the agreement when you are a NATO ally, is if another country is attacked, you're going to be expected to be called upon and help.

GIBSON: Let me turn to Iran. Do you consider a nuclear Iran to be an existential threat to Israel?

PALIN: I believe that under the leadership of Ahmadinejad, nuclear weapons in the hands of his government are extremely dangerous to everyone on this globe, yes.

GIBSON: So what should we do about a nuclear Iran?

PALIN: We have got to make sure that these weapons of mass destruction, that nuclear weapons are not given to those hands of Ahmadinejad, not that he would use them, but that he would allow terrorists to be able to use them. So we have got to put the pressure on Iran.

GIBSON: What if Israel decided it felt threatened and needed to take out the Iranian nuclear facilities?

PALIN: Well, first, we are friends with Israel and I don't think that we should second guess the measures that Israel has to take to defend themselves and for their security.

GIBSON: So if we wouldn't second guess it and they decided they needed to do it because Iran was an existential threat, we would cooperative or agree with that?

PALIN: I don't think we can second guess what Israel has to do to secure its nation.

GIBSON: So if it felt necessary, if it felt the need to defend itself by taking out Iranian nuclear facilities, that would be all right.

PALIN: We cannot second guess the steps that Israel has to take to defend itself.

GIBSON: We talk on the anniversary of 9/11. Why do you think those hijackers attacked? Why did they want to hurt us?

PALIN: You know, there is a very small percentage of Islamic believers who are extreme and they are violent and they do not believe in American ideals, and they attacked us and now we are at a point here seven years later, on the anniversary, in this post-9/11 world, where we're able to commit to never again. The only option for them is to become a suicide bomber, to get caught up in this evil, in this terror. They need to be provided the hope that all Americans have instilled in us, because we're a democratic, we are a free, and we are a free-thinking society.

GIBSON: Do you agree with the Bush Doctrine?

PALIN: In what respect, Charlie?

GIBSON: The Bush -- well, what do you -- what do you interpret it to be?

PALIN: His world view?

GIBSON: No, the Bush Doctrine, enunciated September 2002, before the Iraq war.

PALIN: I believe that what President Bush has attempted to do is rid this world of Islamic extremism, terrorists who are hell bent on destroying our nation. There have been blunders along the way, though. There have been mistakes made. And with new leadership, and that's the beauty of American elections, of course, and democracy, is with new leadership comes opportunity to do things better.

GIBSON: The Bush Doctrine, as I understand it, is that we have the right of anticipatory self-defense, that we have the right to a preemptive strike against any other country that we think is going to attack us. Do you agree with that?

PALIN: Charlie, if there is legitimate and enough intelligence that tells us that a strike is imminent against American people, we have every right to defend our country.

GIBSON: Do we have the right to be making cross-border attacks into Pakistan from Afghanistan, with or without the approval of the Pakistani government?

PALIN: As for our right to invade, we're going to work with these countries, building new relationships, working with existing allies, but forging new, also, in order to, Charlie, get to a point in this world where war is not going to be a first option. In fact, war has got to be, a military strike, a last option.

GIBSON: But, Governor, I'm asking you: Do we have the right, in your mind, to go across the border with or without the approval of the Pakistani government.

PALIN: In order to stop Islamic extremists, those terrorists who would seek to destroy America and our allies, we must do whatever it takes and we must not blink, Charlie, in making those tough decisions of where we go and even who we target.

GIBSON: And let me finish with this. I got lost in a blizzard of words there. Is that a yes? That you think we have the right to go across the border with or without the approval of the Pakistani government, to go after terrorists who are in the Waziristan area?

PALIN: I believe that America has to exercise all options in order to stop the terrorists who are hell bent on destroying America and our allies. We have got to have all options out there on the table.

Interview segment at the end of the newscast:

GIBSON: You said recently, in your old church, "Our national leaders are sending U.S. soldiers on a task that is from God."

YOUTUBE VIDEO OF PALIN IN JUNE: Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right also for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending them out on a task that is from God.

GIBSON: Are we fighting a holy war?

PALIN: The reference there is a repeat of Abraham Lincoln's words when he said -- first, he suggested never presume to know what God's will is, and I would never presume to know God's will or to speak God's words. But what Abraham Lincoln had said, and that's a repeat in my comments, was let us not pray that God is on our side in a war or any other time, but let us pray that we are on God's side. That's what that comment was all about, Charlie.

Today is the day that I send my first-born, my son, my teenage son overseas with his Stryker Brigade, 4,000 other wonderful American men and women to fight for our country, for democracy, for our freedoms.

GIBSON: But you went on and said, "There is a plan and it is God's plan."

PALIN: I believe that there is a plan for this world and that plan for this world is for good. I believe that there is great hope and great potential for every country to be able to live and be protected with inalienable rights that I believe are God-given, Charlie, and I believe that those are the rights to life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That, in my world view, is a grand -- the grand plan.

GIBSON: But then are you sending your son on a task that is from God?

PALIN: I don't know if the task is from God, Charlie. What I know is that my son has made a decision. I am so proud of his independent and strong decision he has made, what he decided to do in serving for the right reasons and serving something greater than self and not choosing a real easy path where he could be more comfortable and certainly safer.

—Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center


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As Experienced as Biden's Running Mate

I'd say this woman is every bit as experienced as Joe Biden's running mate.

 

As experienced as Obama and Biden combined

Obama and Biden have no executive experience, Palin has years of executive experience. She's more qualified than the cyborg that is created from the combination of Obama and Biden.

Not hubris, confidence

When she denied any hesitation about her abilities, Gibson asserted: “Doesn't that take some hubris?”

I don't think hubris is the word, but putting oneself forth as a candidate for public office, especially for President or VP, requires an extraordinary amount of confidence.  Not unlike going before the entire country every night to bring them the news.  Not everyone has the hubris to speak with what some have called "the voice of God" from the anchor chair, or to be the face of ABC News, or to be the one expected to be on call at a moment's notice when a major story breaks.  Granted, being a network anchor is not as important as running the government, but it is a seat of tremendous influence.

When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.

Hubris comment seems VERY sexist

So he would ask O-bum-a  the same question???  VERY very sexist! 

 Hubris, sometimes spelled hybris (ancient Greek ὕβρις), is a term used in modern English to indicate overweening pride, self-confidence, superciliousness, or arrogance, often resulting in fatal retribution.

 I think she handled it way better than the implications in the Yahoo top story headlines which sounded very negative.  Reading the text here makes me feel very good about her answers.

Good God....

"Are we fighting a holy war?"

No no no, Charlie, we're merely fighting the good fight against liberals and the media elites. Charlie.

TO WHICH YOU MR. GIBSON

TO WHICH YOU MR. GIBSON BELONG!  From the clips I have seen and the postings on blogs, I can say with confidence that this was another staus quo hit piece by a mouthpiece of the Corporate Fascist Media.

 

 

 

Palin handled herself well

Palin handled herself well and was obviously prepared for the absurd questions regarding internet rumors.  This interview will strengthen her and I'm glad it got alot of the blog garbage we've had to listen to out of the way.  She has the kind ofconviction that Americans admire in leaders.

Someone is fighting a holy war, against us!

Hey Gibson, when are you going to ask Obama those same questions, because I doubt Obama is going to give BOR another 40 min. Palin did fine, Gibson had a great opertunity to realy find out what makes her tick, but he decided to go for the gotcha and missed.

 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

loaded for bear (kodiak bear)

Can NB staff find other transcripts for Gibson interviewing Obama?

I found this Gibson/Obama interview from March 6, 2008: 

  • no foreign policy questions

  • this quote from Obama:
    "Well, I think Sen. Clinton, like Sen. McCain, believes that life begins when you arrive in Washington. So she discounts all the work that I've done as a community organizer, as a civil rights attorney, as somebody who taught constitutional law, as a state senator, as well as a United States senator. Apparently, to her, that's irrelevant."

I can't wait for the body language experts to dissect the Gibson/Palin interview. Palin looked like she was loaded for bear.

What's the difference between Barack Obama and Sarah Palin?
     One is eye candy while the other kills her own food.

B+

 but let's not forget that Barak O'coward wouldn't do a debate on fox and didn't sit down in hostile territory until just last week, a full year and a half after he announced his run for President.

 

so yea, she did alright..

Good point- she did very well

given the circumstances she did very well for just jumping in.

Hubris is hardly the

Hubris is hardly the correct word.  More appropriate terms would be: testicular fortitude or big brass cojones - something that the dhimmicrats are sorely lacking.

Liberal: a power worshipper without power. George Orwell

Correct wording

Correct wording would be "titanium ovaries," but that would probably come across as sexist. :D

Gibson's Groundrules

Rule #1: I'm going to ask you a series of condesending questions, and no matter what you say, I'm not going to believe you.

Rule #2: I'm going to bring up some quotes. These will all be out of context and incomplete; but I'm going to portray them as complete. Whenever you challange me on this, I will look into the camera and say "Direct quote". I won't give you a chance to refute me.

Rule #3: My assumption is that you are totally unqualified. I'm going to ask you all sorts of questions so that you can be compared with the wonderful qualifications of Obama. Questions like "Have you met heads of state in your role as a Governor". You see, Obama has, once, which gives him his foreign policy creditionals.

Rule #4: I'm going to ask you questions about this "God" you have mentioned. And I'm going to completely ignore all other Presidents (including Roosevelt and Kennedy) who have said the same thing as you -- because, you see, we liberals have proven that (a) God doesn't exist, and (b) anybody who doesn't beleive that is a nut.

Are you ready to begin? Don't forget, my body language is going to constantly say "you fraud, you". Hope you enjoy the interview.

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If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it is in English, thank a Soldier. - My barber

That's right, Charlie, you

That's right, Charlie, you keep right on eliciting comparisons of her to Obama....that's a humiliating position for the Chosen One to be in!

GIBSON: Have you ever met a foreign head of state?

What I would have loved to hear was, "No, Charlie, but I am already arranging a field trip like Senator Obama took, so that I can introduce myself to the leaders of France, England, and Germany."

PS: Obama was interviewed (I've seen the clip but don't remember the interviewer)  and asked if he ever had any doubts about his foreign policy experience, and he answered flatly:  Never.

Why wasn't that  "hubris"?

"PS: Obama was interviewed

"PS: Obama was interviewed (I've seen the clip but don't remember the
interviewer)  and asked if he ever had any doubts about his foreign
policy experience, and he answered flatly:  Never."

And, why didn't the interviewer nail him to the wall, and push him and push him to give a different answer like Gibbon did to Palin? 

Charlie, I didn't know what the "Bush Doctrine" was either before tonight(and he probably didn't either).  I wouldn't say, though, that Palin didn't know what it was, just that she wanted clarification as to what part of it you wanted answered, condescending *****.

She says what she belives

GIBSON: And under the NATO treaty, wouldn't we then have to go to war if Russia went into Georgia?

PALIN:
Perhaps so. I mean, that is the agreement when you are a NATO ally, is
if another country is attacked, you're going to be expected to be
called upon and help

Obama's response would be to offer sherry and scones to Putin,while whining about how Russia was not being fair to the poor Georgians. This lady has the stones to talk straight and that's why she scares the libs out of their socks. Candor, how refreshing

 

 

"A man may be killed but never humiliated."-Shaolin proverb

Gibson is a pompous toad...

Gibson is a pompous toad...

»→ Lazy pompous toad

If he had done his own background work rather than genuflecting at Kos and moveon, he would have gotten her entire statement on "God's will".

Gibson has fallen into the same lazy tactics as his intellectual equals, Alan Colmes, and Chris Matthews.  You'll note I believe he is still a step up from Olbermann, but who isn't?

"that was the trip of a lifetime to visit our troops in Kuwait and stop and visit our injured soldiers in Germany" - Sarah Palin

I agree

Good one d1.Short and to the point.

Did Gibson ever accuse Obama of Hubris?

For thinking he can run the country when he's never run anything or had any major accomplishments that are noteworthy?

Dee, see my comment above; I

Dee, see my comment above; I since found out it was Lara Logan interviewing him. She didn't think it was hubris that he "never" had any doubts about his experience.

Thanks MB - it's what I expected

kid gloves with Obama.  I hope the rest of his interview is more respectful. I'm going to watch Nightline tonight - I never watch it anymore, but I want to see more of the interview. 

Obama's hubris, Dee

For thinking he can run the country when he's never run anything or had any major accomplishments that are noteworthy?

Well, he did persuade Tony Rezko to serve as his personal real estate fairy.  That was a major accomplishment, no?

Hubris in a Pfleger nutshell

"This is mine! I'm THE ONE, I'm black, and this is mine! I just gotta get up
and step into the plate." And then out of nowhere came, "Hey, let America decide,"
and Obama said, "Oh, damn! Where did you come from? I'm black! I'm entitled!
There's a white man and white woman stealing my show!'"
[emphasis where quote adjusted]

"that was the trip of a lifetime to visit our troops in Kuwait and stop and visit our injured soldiers in Germany" - Sarah Palin

I knew Gov. Palin had some

I knew Gov. Palin had some Reagan traits and now I see that she has some of Ollie North also. She is going to be great. Brace yourself Biden you are in for a rough debate. It's going to be like the Sonny Liston - Floyd Patterson fight in 1962 [a rabbit hunt]. You will henceforth be known as Joe Rabbit Biden.

Cocodrie, Please don't

Cocodrie,

Please don't insult the rabbits.

Liberal: a power worshipper without power. George Orwell

Rabbit

Please accept my apologies. Don't sic the rabbit from The Holy Grail on me.

You'll be safe as long as

You'll be safe as long as you have the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch.

Liberal: a power worshipper without power. George Orwell

I'm saving that for a trip

I'm saving that for a trip to Jeremiah Wright's church.

Cocodrie, LMAO! Liberal:

Cocodrie,

LMAO!

Liberal: a power worshipper without power. George Orwell

No stuttering

No stuttering, no hemming and hahing. just the straight truth with conviction. If Barry was asked the same questions, he would need an extra half hour to get thru the same interview. The Governor was fantastic!!! And the huevos rancheros to meet with the enemy MSM face to face. Way to go.

"CHARLES GIBSON: Governor,

"CHARLES GIBSON: Governor, let me start by asking you a question that I
asked John McCain about you, and it is really the central question. Can
you look the country in the eye and say "I have the experience and I
have the ability to be not just Vice President, but perhaps President
of the United States of America?"

Hmmm, has Gibson(or anyone) asked the community organizer this question?

There was a time when I

There was a time when I thought Charlie Gibson was almost fair in his journalistic endeavors. Not so any more. I would like to know... what is it that scares the media so much about this woman? Think about it, Sarah is a pussy-cat compared to pants-suit Hillary, yet the media loved her until the Messiah came along. To save my own sanity, I am no longer going to try and understand these people. Instead, I will continue to prove how stupid they are. Harsh words? Maybe, but I will let history be the final judge!

Al Gore vs Gov. Palin and 9-11

 

 

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simple answer

She is not afraid to make judgements of right and wrong, and good vs evil.  She is not afraid to protect our country.

And most of all.  She is not afraid to take on these liberal weenies with no morality.

Palin has accomplished great things, while Obama has continued to make empty promises that the world owes you a living.

Questions you will NEVER

Questions you will NEVER hear the drive by media ask:

"bambi (aka 57 states), can you look the country in the eye and say 'I have the experience and I have the ability to be the President of the United States of America?'

"bambi (aka 57 states), besides your recent whirlwind tour of the planet had you ever met a world leader?"

"bambi (aka 57 states), you have brother in Kenya that lives in a cardboard box making $12 bucks a year, is that what you mean by change?  Is that how you offer hope?  If you can't help your own brother, how do you convince America that you can help it?

I could go on and on, but you get the idea . . .

You could just see how hard

You could just see how hard Gibson was working to coax her into that one misstatement, the one soundbite that he could use...the one that he's hoping would turn the tide for his Messiah...what a shameful display.

And Cholly, peering over his specs...

...used the word "hubris" because it came up on his new-word-a-day calendar, and he wanted his audience to know he was in the tank - er - loop.

If you look up the word "hubris" in the dictionary, there's a freakin' oil painting of every democrat and media talking head trying to skewer Governor Palin over bloody nuthin'. 

Blizzard of Words

That will be the war cry of the media against Gov Palin for days to come.

The most obvious thing I noticed about interview was the setting and the seating. Notice how they did not give Sara a boosted chair so she would be on equal height and looking eye to eye? They kept her low and below, so Chuck could peer down at her. The next thing was Chuck using his interperetation of how he viewed the Bush Doctrine to frame his question to lead up to the gotcha question about Pakistan. It was his blizzard of words that was confusing.

oh yes...you got that right

He was trying to make her cower.   To put her in her place...He's in her space, notice that?   He was being aggressive and he was thinking that he'd intimidate her...i don't think it worked.   This woman isn't this good because she's been coached.   SHE. IS. THIS. GOOD. 

So Charlie

Are you double dipping.Getting paid by both ABC and DNC to be a shill?

You know what i like?

She calls him charlie...you can almost hear the little c when she says it.  

Glad you said this. I

Glad you said this. I noticed it too, and it immediately sent a tingle down my leg. Palin didn't give an inch during this interview.

___________________________________ 

If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it is in English, thank a Soldier. - My barber

Exam or Interview

This was not an interview, it was an exam... or more appropriately, and interrogation.

Nearly all the questions were closed ended, for example:

- {paraphrase}Can you look the American people in the eye and say that you're ready to be President?

This is a 'yes' or 'no' question that offers no credible insight into the person being interview, nor is it possible to answer it convincingly. We all know that she'd never say 'no'. To say yes, leave the door open to credibility... which clearly Gibson was waiting for, since he immediately pounced on the "hubris" question; which is again a 'yes' or 'no', leading to the same problem over again and compounding the problem with the initial question. 

Compare that to an equally challenging, open ended question on the same topic:

- {example}  What experiences, knowledge and skills you you feel qualify you to be Vice President?

The interview subject is put on the spot and forced to define themselves in a way that can be judged by the interviewer and the audience. 

The problem of this is more apparent in later questions:

- {paraphrase} Do you support the Bush Doctrine? 

Again, yes or no. This is a complex issue, especially for an executive level candidate to answer. Palin correctly asked for more specificity, which Gibson then turned back toward her as a question. She answer according the overriding theme of the doctine, related to pursuit of terrorists. Then Gibson cites a separate, more specific element of the doctrine in a clear attempt to make her appear to be incompetent.

This interview was the most pathetic and clearly bias and loaded attempt to discredit a political candidate I have ever seen. If someone is going to ask a closed ended question, it should be specific. None of these questions were. What is worse is that none of the closed ended question allowed a correct 'yes' or 'no' answer. They were broad based questions on policy which are subjective and dependent on situation. Another example is the "cross boarders" question, which he repeatedly pushed for a 'yes' or 'no' answer. Saying 'yes' is in opposition to sovereignty of nations, but in certain circumstance (such as the past several weeks) may be required. Saying 'no' is in opposition to current events which have developed for over 7 years. The agreement we have is for incursions with prior notification and authorization from Pakistan, which are not always possible. Again, ask the open ended question and allow for a full answer. Instead, Gibson tried repeatedly to box her into simplistic answers to complex questions. 

I have never see such hostility and condecention in an interview before either. Each question was set up in an attempt to discredit her without allowing her the opportunity to show her intelligence or express her view. 

These problems were further compounded by the editing. Every time she tried to give a detailed answer, she was cut off and it moved to the next question; further pushing the predisposed intent to dismiss her as evasive and naive. 

I am appauled at what the media has become. In over 18 months Obama has not been subject to even half as much scrutiny and never to such clearly bias and loaded questions. 

If Obama is elected, for the first time in my adult life I will have lost all respect for this country.

oh goodness i didn't catch that.

I was so busy looking at them and watching her face and listening to her answers that i failed to really hear him.   That's not professional on his part.   But she handled it well.  She went on with it as if explaining something to one of her little ones.   She looked the more professional and adult.  Little charlie was clearly the petulant one.

I really think she can handle Putin.  and then shoot him in the a**. 

 

Bush Doctrine indeed

Gibson forgets Kennedy's attack on Viet Nanm, Reagan's attack on Granada, Bush I's attack on Panama, Clinton's attack on Iraq.

There is no "Bush Doctrine" concerning preemptive strikes simply because we set the bar much lower years ago.

"that was the trip of a lifetime to visit our troops in Kuwait and stop and visit our injured soldiers in Germany" - Sarah Palin

I would not lose respect

I would not lose respect for the country. Keep in mind that a large portion of the population does not look into things in great detail. I agree completely with your observations and analysis. We could indeed be looking a Mr. President Potato Head in January, but I am hopeful that more people truly see who he is and what he stands for.

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I love the guy, but you gotta admit Michael Steele is the real Mr. Potato Head. 

"that was the trip of a lifetime to visit our troops in Kuwait and stop and visit our injured soldiers in Germany" - Sarah Palin

I did not realize Steele's

I did not realize Steele's ears resembled the wings on a 747. Or are you talking about the fact that you can store all the pieces inside his head, but there is really nothing inside?

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If Obama is elected

No way, no how, no Mr. Potatohead...

If he win's, I am moving to Iraq. At least they will still have a democracy there, thanks to Bush/ McCain and our troops. If Obama's in charge here, they will also have a better economy. Over there, you can shoot terrorists, in an Obama administration, Ayers and Wright seem to be worth of cabinet positions. 

Terrorist that you can shoot or terrorist running the goverment. Seems like an easy choice to me.  Plus, I bet there isn't a hippie within 1000 miles of Iraq.

Thanks for your insight above....

That is why I come to this site to see opinions of others who know more of the subject (interviewing strategies) at hand and can express it more elegantly than me. I think your description of that interview is right on the mark. I have not seen the video yet, just the transcript, as I am reading the comments first.

Note: I posted here so I would not get lost in the chatter above.

Superb dissection and

Superb dissection and examination of this interview from bizarro land.

The MSM has had a virtual leg tingling affair with Obama because of his "nuance".  Yet these same folks typically and continually fail to followup a non-answer of Barry's with a redirect.  Palin was hit 2 and 3 deep in redirected questions.  Gibson also put on his best paternalistic and patronizingly dissapproving demeaner while hammering Palin in a way he NEVER has with Obama.  It all seemed to me that Gibson was deliberately trying to frame Palin to match the DNC talking points instead of letting her explain her positions and the American people deciding what was what.

Where was Gibson's unrelenting questioning of Obama's

  • Religion (Black Liberation Theology is not Christian --  Remind me of when/where Jesus said everything for one race?) and close friend and religious leader Rev. Wright? 
  • Close working relationship and friendship with unrepentent domestic terrorists Ayers and Dorne? 
  • Close friendship, business relationship and real estate wizard Rezko?
  • Why it was ok to throw Grandma under the bus just for his benefit when life started to get a little uncomfortable? 
  • Zero foreign experience until he did his own National Lampoon's European Vacation tour last month and why he avoided injured troops in Germany?
  • His own hubris to consider being president with no record of executive or foreign experience, or at best a sliver of domestic political accomplishment?
  • Zero published articles in the Harvard Law Review even though its editor?
  • Exactly what accomplishments as community organizer and state/federal level senator?  Specifics only.  And only those things he was directly responsible for, not someone else's bill he tagged along on or imagined to be a part of.
  • The lies he made about BAIPA while in Illinois, specifically the one about the national language not a part of the bill so he didn't vote for it, when in fact that language was included?
  • The indecisiveness and parsing of voting "Present" dozens of times in Illinois?  Bring up specific votes and ask for his true reasons until he tells the truth.
  • Why his State records are "gone"?
  • Why he has not submitted his actual birth certificate, actual medical records, actual school transcripts (How does a self-confessed drunk and high kid in school get into Harvard?), actual Annenberg Foundation (missing) records?
  • Why did his wife's salary skyrocket after he manuevered public funds to the hospital she worked for?
  • etc... you get the point.

Strangley, Gibson has taken Obama's words to be unquestioning fact not requiring followup or redirection questioning.  And some of these questions have not been addressed yet.

I guess Gibson knows who butters his bread and he better support the messiah... or else.

I never thought Gibson was a misogynist, but I'm starting to believe he is a oldtime sexist.  The only other explanation is Charley's a fierce partisan who arrogantly and desperately tried to embarass Palin.  If Charley had interviewed Obama in this fashion then we could say he was just trying to do his job.  But he didn't do that with Obama, so Charley has more on his mind than just a hard hitting interview.

After watching Nightline, I'd say Palin did pretty well, even with Gibson's "Bush Doctrine" gotcha question.  Palin faced her inquisitor and didn't "blink" or back down even when Charley goaded her -- to paraphrase "you sound like you are changing what you said about Climate Change".  Palin challenged Gibson to back up his words at that point.  He then changed topics.

Here's an example of Gibson

Here's an example of Gibson going full tilt at Obama (/sacasm off)

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Vote2008/Story?id=4535600&page=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAEnu89dxCY 

Not the softer tone in his voice, the softer questions, the lack of redirection and followup.

In fact, there is a paucity of hardhitting questions as Palin recieved.  Many of the questions are designed to give cover to Obama, point in case the issue of Israel.  Hell, Charlie didn't even ask about the publicity stunt where Obama placed a note into the Wailing Wall which was claimed to be stolen by a religious student and its contents revealed by an Israeli TV station.  In fact, Obama's own campaign gave the note to the TV station with the expectation it would be publicized.  What a guy to use the most sacred land in Israel for his personal gain... and do it in a deceitful way to boot.

RRAM Tough! 

Ditto....

to your comments.

In agreement with previous posters...

I was thinking the whole time I watched the interview.   "That's a question he would never ask obama or biden."  He would not dare try to pin them down to something that may lose them a vote or two.

Let Be Honest Among Us McCain Fans: She Is Not Qualified

Team McCain, who I supported pre-Palin, selected her to gain the female and religious vote at the risk of losing moderates and national security voters. Lets be honest.

 She is not qualified for VP because her effective resume for this job is six words: Governed 600,000 Alaskians for 20 months.

Wasilla is irrelivent as is being close to Russia or AK Natl Guard which totals 1600. 

 Watch the video on youtube, she is a train wreck waiting for the spot light debate Oct 2. Come on, who on this blog doesnt know what the Bush Doctrine [of pre-emptive strike means]? She doesnt clearly.

Wheels are coming off quicker that I thought. She will be exposed in the next 60 days and lose by 6-10 elec votes. I like style and moxie her but its not her time. If I was hiring, I would politely escort her out of my office.

 Shes clearly overwhelmed and a bit too religious for me. Remind you of anyone in the whitehouse now?

 Good luck spinning it to middle america.

 

 

I, myself, am looking

I, myself, am looking forward to learning whether or not Obama knows the difference between Georgia and Georgia. He did have three different answers for what he thought should happen there.

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Do you mean Georgia or

Do you mean Georgia or Georgia?

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H, correct,

To those that think Gov

To those that think Gov Palin is too religious - I would like to know what you would have her change. Which of the ten commandments would you like her to break? I am  convinced that if Hussein is elected he will defend Florida, Mississippi, Texas, and my state of Louisiana and not let Russia take us over like they did Georgia. I figure they must have come from Cuber at night.

The Eighth Commandment

Oh, that's easy.  Those who think Sarah Palin is too religious would prefer she abolish the Eighth Commandment.  That gets in the way of the Left, you see.   

Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief.  Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.

I'm not a McCain fan. I'm a Palin Fan.

I'm not a McCain fan.

I'm a Palin Fan.

 

Take a deap breath and repeat "Sarah Palin is not Running for President".

Then try to realize that every day as Vice President, she'll be getting daily briefings from State, Defense, Treasury, and Homeland Security . . . 

hey patriot

You forgot to mention that her daugher is pregnant, her son uses drugs, her church hates Israel, she can't possibly nurse a baby and run the White House, she tried to ban Harry Potter before it was printed, she smoked pot a long time ago, she tortures animals, she practices Rovian politics, she tried to force teachers to peddle creationism, Trig is really someone else's baby, McCain could die a month after taking office, she wants Alaska to secede from the union, and she hugs McCain all the time because they're secretly in love.

Do try to keep up with what your friends are talking about.

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Perhaps more importantly, Matt Damon disapproves of her because She's a Disney movie. 

"that was the trip of a lifetime to visit our troops in Kuwait and stop and visit our injured soldiers in Germany" - Sarah Palin

All That Jazz Is Irrelevant

I, like you, dont care about all that US magazine garbage about Gov Palin. I dont think she is qualified. Again, her resume is 6 words long:

 Governed 600,000 Alaskians for 20 MONTHS!

 There is no logical response to this. Only emotional. The VP is selected for one reason: To take over the free world at a moments notice. She is nowhere near ready. I would love to see otherwise.

Snobbery

Yeah, she only governed 600,000 Alaskans for 20 months.  What extreme, total snobbery. 

By the way, that is 20 months more executive experience than either Obama or Biden.  I'm not even including her time in state government or her time as a mayor.

By the way, I would much rather have the VP groomed than see a President get on the job training.   

Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief.  Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.

Mr. Patriot.....

It is surely not the county you are beholden to, maybe it is the magazine? If you would look at the qualifications on who can run for president/vice-president, you will note that "foriegn policy experience" is not listed. IMHO, the framers of our constitution wanted the common man to run this country, thought that they would be the best overseer <sp> for it's citizens. I am of the same opinion.

Middle America is buying Thanks

And they're liking what they're seeing.    It's character and principle and an innate goodness that makes the leader....something Obama and biden seem to be missing.  

Bush Doctrine

So Bush will run for a 3rd term?I would think McCain if elected would set his own policies. 

USpatriot, as I see it, Palin is more qualified than McCain.

After all, all McCain has really ever been is a senator. Big deal. He has never held executive office of any kind.

I find it curious that you refer to yourself as a "patriot" yet support a man who tried to force an amnesty bill for illegal criminal aliens down our throats, and pretty much slammed the 1st Amendment into the dirt with his campaign finance "reform" bill.

Not only that, but McCain has swapped spit with Teddy K. so many times that I am guessing their respective DNA has become intermingled to the point of being inseparable. If McCain reaches across the aisle one more time, he is going to risk a hernia.

Furthermore, do not ever forget that McCain was quite literally hand-picked for the republicans by the liberal MSM. There is a reason for that. Actually, there are several.

And I won't even bother to get into his support for the eco-commies and his idiotic Cap-and-Trade nonsense.

McCain should have switched parties back when he had the chance.

-Dave.


But Palin's Executive Experience is Irrelevant

But RD:

McCain's immigrationa and campaign finance reform bills began an attempt a two very complex problems. They are nowhere near perfect.

 And on Palin and Executive Exp., what she has is irrelevant. Governing 600,000 Alaskians for 20 months is NOT executive experience to be President in a moments notice. Obama's resume may be thin but hers is literally 6 WORDS in bold above!

She is no where near qualified on any level. Love to see a logical reason.

Obama has never Governed anyone but his two kids

his resume shows no ability to make tough decisions or accomplish anything. Hers is filled with action and accomplishments.

You're Right About Obama Being Light

Dee:

I agree Obama has little to offer but as a group with Bidens foreign policy exp. Obama/Biden has more combined experience in: Homeland Security, Nuclear Non-proliferation, Mid-east affairs, domestic issues and frankly would know who could get things done in DC.

Obama has 11 yrs experience as IL and US senator, has sponsored and helped pass imporant bills like nuclear nonproliferation and campaign fin reform. He has 3 yrs exp on for rel commitee as is Biden both of which has access to top secret information about the worst hot spots in the world. The would hit the ground running while Palin is having the Bush Doctrine explained to her.

I like McCain's courage. I like Palin's moxie. But when he selected her, he knew he was losing the moderates like me because I would look deeper than looks and flair, straight to her overwhelming unqualifications.

 He selected her for the female and religious-centric vote. So be it. I think he will lose by 6-10 elec votes when she is exposed to the common American. 

It's OK, USP

Where can I find an official statement of "The Bush Doctrine"

Wasn't "The Bush Doctrine" a name given (by the Media) to Bush's stance on terrorism? 

"that was the trip of a lifetime to visit our troops in Kuwait and stop and visit our injured soldiers in Germany" - Sarah Palin

Hussein-Biden have no

Hussein-Biden have no executive expereience whatever. Between the two of them they can't come up with the brains of a dead chicken.

"Obama has 11 yrs

"Obama has 11 yrs experience as IL and US senator, has sponsored
and helped pass imporant bills like nuclear nonproliferation and
campaign fin reform. He has 3 yrs exp on for rel commitee as is Biden
both of which has access to top secret information about the worst hot
spots in the world."

Obama has logged only 143 days in the senate, so I'm not sure how he can have 3 years experience in anything senate related.

You'd think with all this "experience" under his belt he'd know how many states there are.

Seriously, how desperate has the left become when their main criticism of Palin is that she asked Gibson to clarify an ambiguous question designed to trap her and slam Bush at the same time? I guess, to a lib, you're only smart if you fall for the traps laid for you.

I love the smell of lib desperation in the morning.

Smells like....victory.

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The Bush Doctrine was not given its title by George Bush.

Charlie Gibson et al named Bush's position on pursuing terrorists "The Bush Doctrine"

We can then say "The Carter Doctrine" is a commitment to pursue a goal until the first helicopter crashes.

"The Clinton Doctrine" would, of course, be that we will bomb Iraq only when it is necessary to divert attention from the blue dress. 

"that was the trip of a lifetime to visit our troops in Kuwait and stop and visit our injured soldiers in Germany" - Sarah Palin

boy...

Obama has nothing but socialism to offer.  (do you want all of our corporations to be nationalized?)

Biden has been HORRIBLY wrong on international affairs.  He was against the surge (which has succeeded).  There are many other examples but I don't have the space to fill an encyclopedia here.

Obama has 11 years of combined senatorial experience... So what?  His experience and Palin's are NON-issues.  I'm voting for the person, and while their past actions do come into play, (like Obama voting against the BAIPA) It is not my sole determiner.

The "Bush Doctrine" was invented by liberals.  I'm sure if you asked Bush what the doctrine was he would ask for clarification.

McCain's courage and tenacity are what make a great leader.  That is what we are voting for.  Palin has great moxie and has been a great reformer.  You're anti-religious stance is frankly ridiculous.  She is no more openly religious than JFK.

The fact is that as she stated, our freedoms come from God not the government.  The minute you assign your freedoms to the government, is the minute that government can start taking them away.

The fact is Obama is a radical hate mongering marxist. 

How long before a 527 plays this ad over national air waves?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI77cU3jsFs

All you would have to do is play Obama's hate mongering "dreams of my father" book and it would turn off most sensible Americans.

 

Palin has accomplished great things, while Obama has continued to make empty promises that the world owes you a living.

Palin has more executive exp. than McCain, Obama and Biden.

She has also proven that she is more than capable.

What is more, her presence on the ticket means there will be an actual conservative on the republican ballot.

That hasn't occurred since 1984.

As for McCain's campaign finance-reform debacle, you describe it as an effort to correct very complex "problems."

Exactly what "problems" are you referring to? Shutting down talk radio and giving the liberal MSM free reign in the last weeks running up to the election? Because that is exactly what John McCain's stupid bill is going to do. Brilliant move, if you are a closet dem.

Money always has, and always will be, a HUGE part of the political process. It is NOT UP TO THE DAMN GOVERNMENT to tell me how much, or how little, I am permitted to donate to the candidate of my choice.

-Dave.


Palin Not Qualified by Any Means

Dave:

But you say shes proven capable of being president of the free world? By what measure? The only relevant measure is governing 680k Alaskans for only 20 months. Can you imagine Gov Palin as pres during a 9-11 type attack? McCain/Obama/Biden yes. They know DC, been on the committees, know the generals. Come on.

The campaign finance reform bill doesnt cover tak radio and he already passed it yrrs ago. Please direct me to your point.

I too want the govt involved in as little of my life as possible.

 

Palin is a conservative. McCain isn't. That alone works for me.

Which will be the only reason I will be voting for the republican presidential ticket in November. Mine will not be a vote for McCain, as I refuse to vote for a liberal for an office as important as POTUS.

I too want the govt involved in as little of my life as possible.

Then why the hell are you a McCain supporter? Wait until his Cap-and-Trade nonsense intrudes into your life in a really big way, what then?

And God only knows what McCain's bestest buds Teddy K.and Broom Hilda have in store for us. Another amnesty for illegal criminals  plan, perhaps?

What will they call it this time? The Hispanic Civil Rights Act of 2010? The Mexican Economic Support Act of 2010?

After all, the dems are going to be firmly in control of congress regardless of who wins in November.

-Dave.


Looking to vote conservative? Why not Bob Barr?

Dave;

Why vote for McCain who you dont like at all. If you are truely interested in voting conservative what about Bob Barr? Palin is a huge risk to national security. There is too much to learn in 60 days.

I thought she would do better with the interview from a tape on youtube from her gov race which she did very well. This Gibson interview was harsh but fair and she failed it in my eyes. No clear articulated policy ideas of her own, all answers seemed to be repeated versions of his questions. Bizarre. She MUST improve greatly to have any chance Oct 2 or Biden will embarrass her, esp on foreign affairs which he has 35 yrs on her. Odds are hugely against her but she could pull it out.

USp, if Palin weren't on the ticket, I would be voting for Barr.

And if for some reason she gets removed from the ticket prior to the election, I will be switching my vote back to Barr. I steadfastly refuse to reward the repubs for doubling the size and scope of the federal government during the Bush administration.

I believe Palin would have never gone along with that. John McCain did, and then some. All the repubs have offered up since 1984 is RINO after RINO after RINO.

This is the last chance for the repubs with me as I see it. They screw this up, and I am through with them. 

-Dave.


all the more reason to make sure Palin wins

She is our last chance at real conservatism. If Obama wins we are toast. America will become the United Socialist States of America.

And IMO, the best way to deal with RINO's is to become part of the process and CHANGE the party from within.

Palin has accomplished great things, while Obama has continued to make empty promises that the world owes you a living.

mbuel...

I'm not so sure that she is our LAST chance for a real conservative, but I feel she is the right one at the right time. I also think she is the future of the GOP, and lord knows the GOP needs a future. She may even be a female version of Ronald Reagan. Only time will tell. 

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She's making a difference

She's making a difference alright!

GOP now talking about picking up seats in The House.

 

Free...

I was reading about this yesterday somewhere. It put a huge smile on my face. Ain't it funny how a REAL CONSERVATIVE can make a difference just by being.... 'Surprise'.. a Conservative!

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CT

Thanks to Sarah, the GOP has been brought back to life

Amen! What Do Obama And

CT

That video is so funny, I laughed till I cried.

A vixen huntress in a dress, with a cute kid who uses her own spit to comb a baby's hair.

and who can forget

Next you will tell me to read Time.  I tell them what to write you twits!

Free... The thanks goes

Free...

The thanks goes to 'jraymondwright' who posted it here earlier.

What Do Obama And Hitler Have In Common?

 

 

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Yes, jraymondwright hit a homerun with that one.

Yes, jraymondwright hit a homerun with that one.

yep

you put real conservatism forward and it attracts the voters. BIG surprise guys!  (being the leaders of the GOP)

My personal opinion is that all the polls we are seeing are off by at least 5 - 10 points as these pollsters don't hit republican voters that have sat out. I think 2008 will see a huge turn out for "independent" voters who registered as such after being let down by the republican party in the past.

Palin has accomplished great things, while Obama has continued to make empty promises that the world owes you a living.

For the Department of Redundancy Department

Biden has 35 years of experience in being completely wrong on foreign policy.  Obama is frighteningly naive in foreign policy.

Palin visited her National Guard troops in the AOR on her own initiative.  Obama was dragged kicking and screaming to the AOR.

Before you repeat your snobby line on Palin, I repeat that I would much rather have the VP groomed than see the President get on the job training.

And as for voting for Barr: why should I vote for one who belongs to a party that wants American turned into a whiny, internally rotting global laughingstock? 

Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief.  Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.

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Firesign is good all times of the day.

"that was the trip of a lifetime to visit our troops in Kuwait and stop and visit our injured soldiers in Germany" - Sarah Palin

great response to USpatriot

You are precisely right. I think USpatriot is showing some PDS.

Palin has accomplished great things, while Obama has continued to make empty promises that the world owes you a living.

Palin did fine considering

1) it wasn't an interview it was a debate.

2) They cut several important pieces from the debate.

3) There is NO Bush Doctrine.

Bob Barr is a joke, and thinking Palin is a national security risk is honestly, childish. Seriously dude. She understands what is going on. She knows that Russia is attacking Georgia for energy. She knows that Israel has to do WHATEVER it takes to prevent a nuclear Iran.

I honestly think you're opinions about her, are because she's a woman.

And frankly I doubt you are paying attention if you think Biden will embarrass her.  If I was drinking milk right now, it'd be spurting all over my keyboard after reading that statement.  

You are talking about the guy that cannot go without making a gaffe DAILY.

Palin has accomplished great things, while Obama has continued to make empty promises that the world owes you a living.

are you serious?

You seriously think that Obama or Biden could handle 9/11 as well as McCain or even Palin?

MY GOD.

Obama and Biden would pull the Clinton routine and try to press charges. They wouldn't pursue military action the way Bush did, and WE WOULD have been attacked again due to their weakness.

You want the government involved as little as possible why are you even CONTEMPLATING pulling the lever for Obama/Biden? An avowed marxist and the 3rd furthest left senator?

MY GOD!

As for Palin's experience? The only other candidate on the ticket with executive experience is McCain. And the criticisms being used against her are the same left wing smears tried against Bush Jr. and Reagan. Seriously.

 

Palin has accomplished great things, while Obama has continued to make empty promises that the world owes you a living.

USpatriot: You make the

USpatriot:
You make the mistake of assuming the question is "Is the candidate perfect."

That is NOT the question, the question is "Is the team better than the other team?"

You might say the same thing reference any candidate who has been a governor. In fact, my home state is SMALLER than Alaska's population - would you discount OUR governors experience?

BD has it exactly right

The McCain/Palin team is far superior and even Palin is more experienced and has better positions than Obama. Her postions are even better than McCain's

She's governing 600,000

She's governing 600,000 Alaskans? Great! Actually it's about 680,000. The state of Delaware (45th) only has 181,000 plus more than Alaska. Robinette "senate since Nixon" Biden has never governed one of them. Or made a command or executive decision that affected delaware. Sarah Palin is governing Alaska? Great! Since she's a lifelong Alaskan I'm sure she was taught the potentially important strategic location that Alaska can have.

Personally I would never take the job of Governor of Alaska. Look at their main industries. Gas, oil, seafood etc. Sounds like between state and federal regulations, not to mention the harrasment of ecofascists, it's probably a guvment red tape clusterf+++.

And don't you go worrying about middle america.

Thanks for the correction

Master of deceit: Thanks for the correction 680k not 600k Alaskians have been governed by Palin in the last 20 months. This doesnt help her case for qualifications. Do you know that the AK legislature meets for 90 days a year. That means she has exactly 180 DAYS experience working with LAW MAKING of any sort. She is a metaphorical infant as far as governing anything and even less for any national or international policy which she hasnt stated any firm personal policy of until tonight. Yes shes getting 67% approval ratings because shes fresh and likable. I like her but shes not presidential. Come on people! This is desperate. The wheels fall off the Palin train soon after the debate Oct 2.

"This is desperate. The

"This is desperate. The wheels fall off the Palin train soon after the debate Oct 2."

Yeah, I'm sure "stand up, Chuck" Biden will eat her alive, lol. The wheels are falling off a train alright, and that's why you libs are in panic mode...over a freakin' VP candidate, lol.

Not Panicing...Palin is Just Not Qualified...Why Am I Wrong?

ckc

Yeah, I'm sure "stand up, Chuck" Biden will eat her alive, lol. The wheels are falling off a train alright, and that's why you libs are in panic mode...over a freakin' VP candidate, lol.

Im not panicing, and Im not liberal. Im sayin Gov Palin is not qualified in any way to be VP or Pres. and looking for logical reasons from the NB crowd.

USpatriot, then why don't you tell us why McCain is qualified.

Hell, he hasn't even been elected so much as mayor of Dixville Notch.

LOL-Pop. 75, last time I checked. :-)

-Dave.


Good Luck

Im heading on down the dusty trail...good luck to all.

No harm meant, none taken.

Please list qualifications

Please list qualifications as YOU see them. Undoubtedly they are different than what I see them.

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The first question I'd ask

The first question I'd ask you before I were to defend Palin is this: Exactly what 'qualifications' do you think a Vice President of the United States should possess?

Then I will make one obsevation that, as far as I am concerned, gores your ox to the death: Palin satisfies the first and most important criteria I would place on any candidate for either President or Vice President of the United States: She is truly an American of the common experience. All three of the other candidates, Obama, Biden, and McCain simply do not satisfy this criteria.

Obama grew up entirely outside the US. He spent his first 10 years overseas in foreign countries learning foreign ways. He spent his next 8 years in Hawaii, probably the least mainstream American experience you can have an in any of the 50 states.

Biden is a lawyer, one of the Tweener Generation. Life has been soft for the Tweeners. They came along in the shadow of the GI Generation, avoiding all of the unpleasantness that generation coped with, and rode the rising tide of the Boomers, being already entrenched in the workplace when the Boomers swelled the ranks under them. As a generation, they are unremarkable and have failed to produce a President or any other significant leadership. Bush I was GI Generation. Clinton and Bush II are Boomers. The only thing that generation has produced was a counterculture revolution in the late 60's and 70's. Biden's biography is entirely unremarkable lacking any real achievement of his own. He has been a full-time Politician since he was 30.

McCain is a child of privilege. He grew up the grandson of Admiral John S. McCain, commander of the Pacific Fleet's fast carrier task Force under Admiral Halsey in WWII. Sort of like growing up as the Navy version of Georgie Patton's grandson. His father was no less influential in the Navy.

Hey that's great, only 90

Hey that's great, only 90 days per year in session! Maybe that means they're out with the voters the rest of the year meeting with the voters and finding out what is important to them. Instead of being isolated and not knowing what the people want. just a thought

The 180 days beats obamas

The 180 days beats obamas 140+ days shuffling his feet around the Senate with his one lonely vote in hand.

Great! Palin has 180 days of dealing with Federal Gubment Bull+=+ as the head of 681,000 people.

Whoo I'm so sold. Look out McCain "contribute" button here comes another $200 bucks.

So what?

The legislatures of the states that gave us our last two presidents meet biannually; in the case of TX it is 120 days every two years IIRC.  Your point?  And again, I'd rather see a VP groomed instead of watching a President get on the job training. 

Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief.  Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.

USPat - "Bush Doctrine' is a term coined by liberals

and they have distorted it like crazy.  She had every right to ask exactly what he meant by it. He has not named anything "Bush Doctrine"  it's crazy that Charlie even refers to it as that. 

His Foreign policy was not just about pre-emptive strike like liberals like to say and distort.  It was about not letting governments get away with working with and harboring terrorists, and then claim immunity because they didn't actually attack with an army.  If they protect terrorists then they are fair game.   That was the main point.

She Should Have Known Bush Doctrine, But I Give Her A Pass

Dee:

 Ok, but you have to agree that The Bush Doctrine term has been used in both the left and right leaning press and academics for 6 yrs. I knew it instantly. Anyone who has been following the debate about the Iraq War would know it as quick. She has said herself she had "not thought about Iraq" until only last year. Is this vice presidential? 

 I give her a slight pass because she seemed very nervous. Almost like she knew she was being explosed as internatinally ignorant. It didnt help her that nearly every answer was a repeat of his question in a statement form. Amazing times.

"Team McCain, who I

"Team McCain, who I supported pre-Palin, selected her to gain the female
and religious vote at the risk of losing moderates and national
security voters. Lets be honest."

That's funny. You lie about being a McCain supporter, and then you say "let's be honest", lol.

You libs crack me up. You supported McCain being behind in the polls, and that's about it.

Yes, I Was A McCain Supporter

ckc:

Its true I was going to vote McCain before his Palin decision but not cannot because she is no where NEAR able to take over and thats the only reason by definition you need a VP.

 Believe it or dont believe it, either way its the truth.

Grooming vs. OTJ Training, ad nauseum

Sounds like you didn't vote for Bush 20 years ago; the exact same thing was being said then.  Things turned out all right as I recall.

Again, I would much rather have a VP groomed than see a President get on the job training.  It seems that this distinction is completely lost on you.  That is unfortunate. 

Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief.  Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.

Yes, the grooming is key to

Yes, the grooming is key to bringing a VP up to speed. No doubt, some of that has started at some level, even now, as a candidate. McCain's folks are obviously getting her up to speed on all sorts of issues.

And she will certainly get up to speed very quickly. She's smart, quick and centered. I have no worries about her whatsoever.

The major media report only half the news. Why are they surprised they have only half the potential audience?

celator, I hope it is Palin that is getting McCain up to speed.

Not the other way around.

McCain is a dud as a candidate, and will be an even bigger dud as POTUS. My perception of McCain is that he is woefully out-of-touch in so many areas.

What is worse, he is not a conservative. Palin is. I would hate to see her contaminated by a RINO like McCain.

-Dave.


Other than a former

Other than a former Secretary of State, or a former V.P., no candidate has the "foreign policy" experience that the MSM is demanding of Sarah Palin.

Carter, Reagan, Clinton, and Bush(43) all came in after serving as Governors.  How much foreign policy experience did they have when the first ran?

I don't understand how the

I don't understand how the population of one's state has to do with whether or not you're qualified to run on a national ticket. If that's the case then you need to disqualify Biden, his state has an estimated population of 853,000 as of 2006. How many does one have to have governed to be considered a viable candidate? You might never see candidates from the following states: Delaware, Hawaii, Idaho, etc. You might want to look at the following link http://www.factmonster.com/ipka/A0004986.html and see how many states don't have large populations and then come back and say she's not qualified because she hasn't goverened enough people. How many does one have to govern before they're qualified?

*pokes head around corner*

I know I'm in the minority here, but I still think it was smart of Palin to appear with Charlie Gibson in this format.

She entered enemy terroritory, faced an influencial man eye to eye, kept her poise, and came out victorious. No we can't say she smacked Charlie down, but she held her own and gave good answers, much to the annoyance of Democrats everywhere.

So all in all, even though the interview mostly comes out a draw, Palin has the victory of shutting up accusations that she's a coward. Once again she took advantage of skepticism to make herself look even better.

Palin seems to thrive in the role of being an underdog. And now that she's off with such a strong start, she'll only get better as she sharpens herself. Let's be thankful that she's brave enough to face Charlie Gibson in a tough interview within days of the convention. In the long run this will work to our advantage.

And as others here have noticed, she gave concise answers without any stuttering or feeling any need to "revise" her assertions.

Your right, we cannot have

Your right, we cannot have our leaders running from difficult situations.

 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

exactly general

That's a point Republicans should be hitting more.

Obama refuses town halls with McCain. He refused to appear on Fox News for months. He routinely attacks Sean Hannity yet refuses to call into his show. And yet he thinks he's tough enough to organize ceasefires, intimidate Russia, or pressure Pakistan to look for bin Laden.

Now I'm not saying that since Palin took on Charlie Gibson she's ready to stop Al Qaeda. However that's why she's running for veep. Obama, however, is running for POTUS, and so far he's shown a penchant for avoiding confrontation.

It worked for Jimmah Carter

Of course Jimmah Carter didn't get a second term as a result of his flaccid assault on Ayatollah Khomeini. 

"that was the trip of a lifetime to visit our troops in Kuwait and stop and visit our injured soldiers in Germany" - Sarah Palin

An assault?

An assault, you say?  WHAT assault? 

Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief.  Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.

Candance

I think we need soeone like her to present our side in "enemy territory". She seems bright enough and strong enough in her convictions to look them in the eye, and tell it like it is. She will not back down, as she believes what she says. She has nothing to hide, so we don't get the sputtering and stuttering we get with obama, who is just looking for the "right" thing to say.

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

Oh, I agree...

There was no problem with any of her answers and she took and stood firm on positions, unlike a certain community organizer we know.

By comparison, if ask Obama "How's the weather?" you get a 20 minute discertation on "uuuhhh...well... that depends on if you're talking about the weather in a meteorological sense or in the overall sense of global warming... eerrr... look, like I've always said the Bush/ McCain policies of the past 8 years have lead us into wars that we should not be in and this has had a profound effect on the cost of tea in China... errr... what we need is HOPE that the weather will CHANGE but that will not happen with more of the same..."

Or Joe Biden: "I bet I have a higher IQ that you when it come to the weather. You see, the problem is that my hot wife is too smart, but that a whole lot better than all those people at Dunkin Donuts with those accents. I mean, how am I supposed to order a cup of coffee? My son, the lawyer/ lobbist has the same problem. But I only let him talk to my staff you see... "

*45 minutes later*

"So, now that you know all about how my wife was killed by a guy that drank his lunch, not that I would know that for sure since I didn't look into it but anyhow... how's Clarence Thomas? Is it time for my hairplug appointment yet?"

Perhaps Palin has scared off

Perhaps Palin has scared off would be interviewer who want to play gotcha by going with Gidson and his I'm better than you attitude first.

ODD SITUATION

 SARAH PALIN CERTAINLY IS EASIER TO LISTEN TO THAN STUTTERING OBAMA.  I FIND HIS CONTINUOUS "UH, ER, AH, WELL" VERY ANNOYING. 

SHE MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE THAN OBAMA TOO.

I DON'T RECALL ANYONE ASKING OBAMA SERIOUS AND DEEP QUESTIONS LIKE THESE.  MAYBE IT HAPPENED BUT I TURNED OFF THE TV BECAUSE HE IS SO BORING.

WHY ARE WE ALWAYS COMPARING THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE WITH THE VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE ANYWAY?

IT'S ODD THAT THE VP CANDIDATE HAS MORE EXPERIENCE, SELF-ASSURANCE, KNOWLEDGE, AND WISDOM THAN THE PREZ CANDIDATE.

 

 

McCAIN-PALIN 2008 and HILLARY-ANYBODY 2012

Biased AP Headline? but I'm sure they TRY to act professional

AP Headline:

Palin tries to defend qualifications in interview

instead of
Palin defends qualifications in interview

The word "tries" implies that Palin botched it.

What's the difference between Barack Obama and Sarah Palin?
     One is eye candy while the other kills her own food.

The very definition of Jihad is "Holy War."

This Jihad was declared against the civilized world by the 7th-Century illiterate barbarians nearly 14 centuries ago.

LOL-Where has Charlie been?

-Dave.


Jihad

I may be wrong, but I think Jihad translates the same as Mein Kampf - My struggle.

But I'm an American, all I can say is merci beau coup.

"that was the trip of a lifetime to visit our troops in Kuwait and stop and visit our injured soldiers in Germany" - Sarah Palin

Cool, LOL-

Don't be such a party pooper.  :-)

Actually, I am aware of several definitions for the term. 

-Dave.


Greg Gutfeld knows why libs hate Sara

Has the best answer why the libs hate Sara.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,420161,00.html 

It is right to the point.

Dead Wrong

well99

I read the fox article and its bs, claiming that people dont like Palin becuase they never met a normal woman in Wal Mart is dead wrong and just stupid. Its because she is dangerously unqualified and will be exposed on the Oct 2 debate if this Gibson interview is any indication of the coaching shes getting. Amazing. Anything to keep liberals out of 1600 Penn Ave. Even the security of the nation.

Dead Wrong

well99

I read the fox article and its bs, claiming that people dont like Palin becuase they never met a normal woman in Wal Mart is dead wrong and just stupid. Its because she is dangerously unqualified and will be exposed on the Oct 2 debate if this Gibson interview is any indication of the coaching shes getting. Amazing. Anything to keep liberals out of 1600 Penn Ave. Even the security of the nation.

Dead Right USP

You missed the jist of story

To them, hating Sarah Palin is a symptom of larger bigotry against the rest of us, the normal. If they saw her at a party, they would wonder how she got in. She's the anti-Obama, the anti-New York Times, the anti-everything that Tim Robbins loves, which is why I love her — and you should too.

And if you disagree with me, then you sir are worse than Hitler.

 

Get em Greg http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,420161,00.html

  Rigggght, she's

 

Rigggght, she's dangerously unqualified to "maybe" be president, and that's a bad thing. But the even more dangerously unqualified guy on the other ticket who doesn't even like this country, and who WILL be president, well hey, that's ok. He's so capable, he can lead 57 states, whereas poor Palin might only get to lead 50. :(

lol, I love it. Keep running against our VP candidate. And make sure you call her a racist a few times too for good measure.

 

CKC

To be truthful I dont know how many more times the Dems and msm can put their foot in their mouths.They have to be running out room.Even with all those big mouths.

Palin's Response to "Bush Doctrine" Question

I don't think her response indicated that she didn't know the liberal definition of the "Bush Doctrine," I thought her response results from the fact that the liberal definition is always mutating and being expanded upon, and that the very idea that pre-emptive war is some creation of George W. Bush is total nonsense. Anyone with any understanding of history would say "Bush Doctrine? What exactly do you mean by that?"

Most wars in history were fought because a nation felt a threat to a its soil was imminent. It's why we fought the Spanish American war (Spain never invaded the US) or the First World War (the Lusitania wasn't even an American vessel, but a supposed alliance between Mexico and Germany driven by the Zimmerman telegram made us feel like we might be in danger as a nation). Same with Kennedy in Vietnam, Clinton in Operation Desert Fox, Reagan in Granada. Hell, Hitler invaded Russia because he wanted to knock them out before they turned on him, same with China in Korea, or Napoleon moving against Vienna. History is littered with pre-emptive wars, but once again liberals have hijacked history and engineered the social discourse.

I don't think we should be give Gibson credit for "not embarassing her", I think that we should point out that only dishonest liberal elites even believe such a thing exists, and that it should be part of any academic dialogue. Monroe had a Doctrine. President Bush fought a war for the same reason countless wars throughout history have been fought. It's a dishonest attempt to exploit the historical ignorance of the American people and forever tie George W. Bush to war and aggression. We shouldn't let them inject this fallacy into the historical record, even in the short term.

Palin Should Have Known Bush Doctrine If Keeping Up With Iraq

the citizen

The Bush Doctrine has been used by both left and right media for 6 yrs. I knew it instantly. Anyone following the debate in Iraq knows it. She doesnt. But I give her a pass, she looked nervous.

As for your history its a bit off: Spanish/Am was started by an attack on the USS Maine killing 228 americans, Luisitnia was british but 128 americans were killed by a german u boat prompting our entering the war. Reagans Granada - cubans held 100 Americans "hostage", etc. This is very simple history that can be found anywhere online on in books. Where did you get this false info? Sounds like a spin job article somewhere. Any way, please dont make Hitler your reference for explaining Bush policies, because thats all your left with on your list. Odd, according to your logic, they are the only ones with that in common.

Again:

Again, Palin actually visited her troops in the AOR with no prodding or pushing.  She just went of her own initiative. 

Obama went: dragged kicking and screaming.   

Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief.  Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.

»→ Unsane

But what is the Bush Doctrine?

  1. "You're either with us or you're with the terrorists."  Fine, but this "Fer us or agin' us" isn't exactly new.
  2. "We reserve the right to go in and unilaterally get the terrorists"  Well, that's interesting, but Ronald Reagan did that with Grenada, and Bush-I did kidnap and incarcerate a sitting ruler.

Isn't it true the "Bush Doctrine" is really a convention of the media?

I could be wrong.

"that was the trip of a lifetime to visit our troops in Kuwait and stop and visit our injured soldiers in Germany" - Sarah Palin

For Cool Arrow

Those arrows are cool, Cool Arrow.  How do you manage to put them on here, or is that a secret recipe? :-)  Everytime I see them, I know who has responded.

I'm going to sound like a neophyte, but honestly, I do not know.  I wouldn't be surprised if the term is a "catchall" media phrase.   

Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief.  Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.

»→ Nothing exotic Unsane

I copy and paste from a table of accepted ASCII characters. 

And now, you too have these powers.  Use them wisely.

"that was the trip of a lifetime to visit our troops in Kuwait and stop and visit our injured soldiers in Germany" - Sarah Palin

I shall use these new powers responsibly

For as Peter Parker was told by Uncle Ben, "With great power comes great responsibility." 

:-) 

Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief.  Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.

Apologies, but you're mistaken

USpat

The fact that you think you can know what someone is referring to when they say "The Bush Doctrine" illustrates the fact that even you, in fact, don't know what it means. At the moment, in academia, there are no less than FOUR separate "Bush Doctrines" circulating. So you didn't "know what it was," and were either being dishonest in saying that, or you simply have far too high an opinion of yourself and happened to get lucky, because no one can pretend to know what someone is referring to specifically when they "The Bush Doctrine" in isolation. Every foreign affairs expert is saying today that the question was clearly a "gotcha" question because it is too ambiguous to answer. Juan Williams, an avowed Obama supporter, said today that if he were asked what he thought of the "Bush Doctrine" that he would have responded just as Sarah Palin did.

As for your historical summary, again you're mistaken. The fact that 128 Americans were killed on the "Luisitania" (sic) was not used to say that German aggression was endangering America as a nation, it was used by politicians as a catalyst to convince the people to go to war on the premise that the war in Europe would, presumably, at some point, pose a threat to American security. You ignored the "Zimmerman Telegram" because it so effectively illustrated my point. The Telegram suggested that Germany and Mexico were going to form an alliance against America and launch an assault on American territory. Wilson pre-empted such an alliance by using the Lusitania diasaster as a precursor for war, and the Telegram to show that preemptive action was necessary. And my example of the Maine was used to show that American territorial sovereignty was never, in fact, threatened, but the nation went to war nonetheless.

The point of these examples is that not every nation attacked us militarily before we attacked them. Many times in history the United States, and one of the two nations who has fought many other wars, has used the idea of an "immediate threat" to go to war. Again you conveniently ignored my example of JFK and Lyndon Johnsonin Vietnam because it doesn't fit very well into your narrative that George W. Bush was the first president to act in this manner, thereby negating the very concept of a "Bush Doctrine."

The Domino Theory could just as easily been termed "pre-emptive" war, it was simply given a different name. Again, you're too focused on the terminology, and not focused enough on the substance.

Krauthammer on the "Bush Doctrine"

About 45 seconds after posting my response to USpatriot I came upon this article by Charles Krauthammer in the Washington Post, which echoes what I just said.

I should mention that Krauthammer was the first person to use the term "Bush Doctrine", so I think his opinion might hold more weight than the opinion of USpat.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/12/AR200809...

The C, Great post...

Since it is my time to leave......

Gosh darn NB - you are putting up to many articles I am interested in. I just don't have the time to read everything ;)Thanks

OTOH - I was working in China circa 05-06, the question of terrorism came up between co-workers with lots of interpreters present. I stated then as I think now on what the "Bush Doctrine" is. Kill them before they kill us.

USPat is WRONG!

I suppose it is possible that you were going to vote McCain.  I doubt it.   But what is most important in any candidate is "CHARACTER".   I would vote for someone with character every time over someone who has no character.   Dam* the "experience".    The people who have control of your ...OOPS...I  mean the democratic party have shown consistently for the last 8 years that YOU PUT PARTY BEFORE COUNTRY.   That shows NO CHARACTER at all!

is it a holy war?

if one wishes to understand one's enemy, as the Taliban and al qaeda, etc have declared themselves, then YES it is a holy war - because they said so.

allow me to love

allow me to love America

IF THE LADY GOV(SOON TO BE VP) WAS A SHRINKING

VIOLET, AND NO THREAT, WOULD SHE BE

INTEROGATED BY THE MEDIA??

I REALLY DID NOT THINK THE MEDIA WAS THIS BIASED.

 

Holy War - I thought a jihad was a holy war?

Islamic extremists ARE fighting a holy war. It is up to the US to repel their advances and to inspire the hearts and minds of the oppressed people of the Middle East. Freedom-wanting people will see that the leaders of the totalitarian regimes that rule their countries will demand changes. It will be like a force of nature and will not be stopped.

Charlie, you slipped a few rungs in my view yesterday.

www.ArmchairEnergist.com

Gibson was in a tough position

He couldn't really go after her, but he also couldn't just lob softballs. He did a pretty good job of keeping that balance, I thought.

But where is frank???

You know, out of all the posters here, I can't believe I haven't seen a single post from j. frank wilson!  He was bitching, whining and screaming for an interview with Gov. Palin!!!  And now I hear NOTHING? 

The butterfly left the "Republican cocoon", frank!  What say you?  You got your wish after all!!! 

Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief.  Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.

J. Frank Moonbat

I'm guessing he'll be back once he thinks we've forgotten about that!

By then he'll have new slander to run with.

 

This is why the demoncrats hate Sarah!

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