NBC anchor Brian Williams on Monday evening rued that Afghanistan “is too often called the other war or perhaps even the forgotten war” when “in the month of May, for the first time ever, American and allied combat deaths were higher in Afghanistan than the monthly loss in Iraq.” But that's as much because of good news from Iraq, which Williams ignored, as bad news from Afghanistan. The number of U.S. service personnel killed in Iraq in May was the fewest in any month since the war began in 2003 -- a positive trend Williams, unlike his colleagues at ABC and CBS, failed to share with his viewers two weeks ago.
Back on Monday, June 2, the other networks noted how 19 died in May as a result of combat in Iraq. In the same month, total U.S. (15) and allied troop deaths in Afghanistan rose to 23, the Washington Post reported Sunday.
The update from Williams on the Monday, June 16 NBC Nightly News:
To Afghanistan now where we reported from last week. We went there to take a closer look at the U.S.-led war effort there, the one that started, after all, in retaliation for the 9/11 attacks. But these days it is too often called the other war or perhaps even the forgotten war. And it's been a tough go. In the month of May, for the first time ever, American and allied combat deaths were higher in Afghanistan than the monthly loss in Iraq. And today came word that hundreds of enemy Taliban invaded villages just outside the city of Kandahar just three days after a Taliban attack on Kandahar's prison freed 400 insurgents.
My Monday, June 2 NewsBusters posting, “NBC Nightly News Spikes News About Fewest Troop Deaths of War,” recounted:
As lead-ins to short reports on the posthumous presentation of a Medal of Honor, ABC and CBS on Monday night managed to squeeze in -- more than 20 minutes into their evening newscasts -- brief mentions of how in May the fewest number U.S. servicemen were killed in Iraq in any month since the war began five years ago. But not NBC Nightly News. (And Sunday's Today and Nightly News, as well as Monday's Today, also skipped the good news.) NBC anchor Brian Williams on Monday led with worries that “because it's been underfunded for decades, mass transit may not be ready for all the Americans leaving their cars behind,” and ran his short update, on the Medal of Honor going to Army Private First Class Ross McGinnis, without anything about the decline in troops killed.
Two days later, FNC's Bill O'Reilly named Brian Williams his “pinhead” of the day for not reporting the low death level, enraging MSNBC's Keith Olbermann who made O'Reilly one of his “Worst Persons in the World” for relying on “the hilariously inept right-wing Web site NewsBusters.”
My Friday, June 6 NewsBusters item, with video, “Inaccurate Olbermann Ridicules O'Reilly for Relaying Accurate Item from 'Hilariously Inept Right-Wing Web Site NewsBusters,'” reported:
Erroneously recounting a Tuesday NewsBusters post I wrote about how, unlike ABC and CBS, the NBC Nightly News did not report the lowest U.S. death level in May for any month since the war in Iraq began, MSNBC's Keith Olbermann on Friday night made FNC's Bill O'Reilly his “Worst Person in the World” runner-up for “picking up some of his features from the hilariously inept right-wing Web site NewsBusters.” Olbermann proceeded to claim that NewsBusters had “criticized our colleague Brian Williams of NBC Nightly News for leading Monday's newscast not with the lower May casualty figures from Iraq, but with a story on how underfunded mass transit system can't keep up with increased ridership caused by the rape of the driver by Mr. Bush, Mr. Cheney and their oil buddies.”
But Olbermann is the inept one. The June 2 NB item did not scold Williams for failing to lead with the development (nor, of course, for any “rape” of drivers by Bush), but for not mentioning it at any time in his newscast: “ABC and CBS on Monday night managed to squeeze in -- more than 20 minutes into their evening newscasts -- brief mentions of how in May the fewest number U.S. servicemen were killed in Iraq in any month since the war began five years ago. But not NBC Nightly News.”
Derogatorily impersonating O'Reilly, Olbermann recited O'Reilly's Wednesday hit on Williams as his “pinhead” of the night. Olbermann then asked and answered about O'Reilly: “Surprised that you're a blithering sociopath cutting and pasting items from NewsBusters? No, I am not...”
—Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center
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Shameless SOB's
June 16, 2008 - 23:17 ET by BarkerNBC is dead to me.
Barker...same here...I have
June 16, 2008 - 23:26 ET by bigtimerBarker...same here...I have a hard time turning the sound up on the television anymore at times...on any station.
I do...but not as much as I used to...whatsoever.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson
Thanks again,
June 16, 2008 - 23:47 ET by d1carterMr. Zucker and Mr. Capus, NBC is no more.
Here may be a reason that
June 17, 2008 - 00:10 ET by jdhawkHere may be a reason that Afghanistan is becoming more deadly than Iraq: http://www.ibdeditorials.com/default.aspx?src=ICOMEDT.
Shame on you, Brian Williams
June 17, 2008 - 00:48 ET by SupermanPeople like Brian Williams just can't stand it that May in Iraq was the least violent of the entire war. It hurts their talking points. So what does Brian do? He digs for bad news. Even if it has nothing to do with Iraq.
HIRING THE HANDICAPPED
June 17, 2008 - 04:31 ET by SgthulkaBrian Williams = Ted Baxter
Keith Who?????
June 17, 2008 - 06:38 ET by expatriotLets face it, those pin heads would miss a good news story even if it slapped them in the face. And olbertwit is successful at.....? Couldn't make it as a sportscaster and is really not making it now.
I feel sorry for our great troops.
June 17, 2008 - 07:15 ET by ChiefE9Our troops are winning the Iraq war and there is a turn a round. I read today that foreign firms are starting to invest in Iraq. The LMSM and the Dems in Congress are trying their best to lose this war. They will never admit victory and that Bush did the right thing. Truman had a unpopular war, Korean War and is now rated as one of our top ten Presidents. I think the same thing will happen with Bush.
Iraq Starts to Fix Itself
June 17, 2008 - 07:27 ET by UnsaneThat is the headline on the cover of "The Economist" this week. I have yet to plunge into the cover story but with some passing glances it will have some good news on the Iraq front.
I'll bet Brian Williams, et al, haven't bothered looking at the cover much less picking up a copy, so invested are they in our defeat.
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
Face it...the "it bleeds, it
June 17, 2008 - 07:30 ET by taterFace it...the "it bleeds, it leads" will always be how the news works. It's not right but that's how it goes. That plus their hatred of everything Bush and this war if you have 1,000 attaboys in Iraq they MSM will focus on the 1 "oh, %&#*".
www.theholyrosary.org
"There is no problem, I tell you, no matter how difficult it is, that we can not resolve by the prayer of the Holy Rosary." -Sister Lucia
even worse..Fox news
June 17, 2008 - 07:44 ET by JethrofishFox news NEVER mentions ANY of our losses on either wars....or praises the fallen with at least a name mentioned, like most networks do. Is that the kind of coverage you want / deserve? Actually they never bring up the wars at all, unless it's something like an election or a killed terrorist leader. There's more to it all than that, eh?
Maybe you should start criticizing Fox and ask them why they don't support our troops.
Maybe you should start
June 17, 2008 - 07:53 ET by NewsbusterbrownMaybe you should start criticizing Fox and ask them why they don't support our troops.
Because we all know, including you, that the troops love Fox News more than the other networks combined.
BTW, nice rhetorical attempt on your part.
“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
Maybe you should talk to some of the troops...
June 17, 2008 - 08:03 ET by UnsaneHey, it's not my fault you ache for Vietnam-era daily body counts. That's not exactly being suportive of the troops, is it?
By the way, I was over there, and I eagerly anticipated when I could see Fox News on AFN.
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
body counts?
June 17, 2008 - 08:25 ET by JethrofishUnsane,
I have buds over there now, and aghganistan....some 3rd timers with small kids at home. They bluntly tell it like it is and they are patriots....and so are you, if you were there.
It's great you think fox news is reality and everything else is biased, but what if fox is just a pipe for the republican party, as everyone knows? Are they going to tell you what's really up? And why believe just one news source?
For adults, supporting the troops is more than blindly wearing a lapel pin or a bumper sticker. It's about thinking and making smart decisions and not lying to continue a platform or to get some schmuck elected.
Hunnnnhhh??
June 17, 2008 - 08:34 ET by expatriotJethro,
First off Fox is not a pipe for the Republican party. Doggie Smith and his cohorts are shilling for the dhimocraps. Listen to them sometime and you will see that I speak the truth.
I was in Afghanistan from 2005-2006 and we wanted Fox on the tube, not any of the other news casts. The UN watched BBC and CNN.
Fox is the one station that portrays balanced reporting and does a good job of covering what the troops are doing in all theaters. You will not see the same coverage from the others. That is a shame as people like to see the troops doing well and succeeding and they are. Ross Kemp did a special for the BBC and it was pro troop for the Brits. Most watched show they had and the people at home wanted more.
Fox and some individuals report well, but the mainstream does not.
brave fox news reporters....in the studios, anyway
June 17, 2008 - 08:54 ET by JethrofishTell me how many fox news reporters have been killed or wounded during the wars, Expatriot. Or anywhere in the Mideast in the last 10 years.
When you can sharpen your pencil I'll list 77 that covered the wars for real and died. They didn't work for Fox. Maybe they were actually "covering" the war instead of doing sound bites. Having been there you should know the difference.
Jethro
June 17, 2008 - 09:17 ET by expatriotI am addressing the reporting of the wars. Fox presents a pretty balanced picture of what is going on. The other news channels are putting their spin on the story everytime they report it. They do not report news, rather they editorialize every time.
I do not know any reporters who were killed covering the war. Its war and people get killed. That I do know and memorial day is a very special day for me. But not because of the reporters.
There has not been balanced coverage since the war was called complete the first time. The embedded reporters were considered to have gone native because they were telling the folks back home how well the soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines were doing. The MSM had a problem with that and pulled them out. Now the embedded reporters show up with preconcieved notions of what they want to find and report. I saw that first hand on numerous instances.
So, I don't know how many reporters from any agency have been killed and I don't think it is germain to the discussion. For me Fox does a better job.
well it's perhaps germain
June 17, 2008 - 09:54 ET by JethrofishShouldn't you be curious why you're trusting a news organization that hasn't lost one reporter.....yet you denounce all the others that have ?? Where do they get their facts? Duh.
It's the difference between actually being there and getting the real news or just making it up from a news studio and repeating what the Bush administration tells them to say.
Might be worth investigating if you care about the truth. How can you call it balanced? Compared to what? Reality?
I'm sure you've seen reporting on the ground over there. Wouldn't you feel betrayed if you were lied to? You are the person that should feel the most offended if the truth isn't told or if it's whitewashed for political reasons.
Why not just read the daily administration briefings on the war ?
Most use stringers
June 17, 2008 - 10:06 ET by expatriotMost of the news agencies are using stringers. The majority do not go outside the wire in either theater and rely on others to give them stories. Those that do distort the story to meet their agenda driven goals.
NY Times is one of the worst proponents of this. CNN, BBC, AP, etc are all in the same category. They have been exposed time after time but they continue to manufacture news or to distort what is happening to fit their agenda. That agenda is to make the US Government and troops look bad. Period. That is why I would rather watch Fox and why the troops that I had with me watch Fox as well.
Where are your facts?
June 17, 2008 - 10:08 ET by expatriotJethro,
Please point me to the location that lists the deceased reporters. How many are locals and how many are Americans, British, French etc?
Again, not a bowl of cherries, but...
June 17, 2008 - 15:56 ET by UnsaneThe U.S. media sucks anyways. You whine about Fox, but don't take into consideration that whenever a Left-wing dictatorship tells anything at all to the other networks, they take every single thing they say at face value without critical analysis (example).
Personally, I hit foreign media sources like CBC and The Economist far more than I rely on U.S. media. Additionally, your hatred of Fox aside, NONE of them cover the international scene as thoroughly as I would like. Hence another reason for me to further diversify my media sources.
My take on Iraq, from being there: no, it is not all a bowl of cherries, but neither is it going to hell in a handbasket the way the media desperately wants you to believe.
Nice to see that you start a paragraph out with "for adults". Could it be that you see the Fox audience as a bunch of children? If so, that is the typical snobbery of a Leftist.
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
Jethro - That's Complete and Utter Garbage
June 17, 2008 - 08:18 ET by BourbeauGet your facts straight Jethro, you don't know what you're talking about. Fox News at 6 PM with Brit Hume has had numerous stories regarding the war - both good and bad, from the beginning. They are the one network covering stories about the current progress; just last night they did a segment on the improvement in Anbar Province. They have done extensive stories about the losses we have incurred, as well as the bravery of our servicemen, including covering the ceremonies of the awarding of the four Medals of Honor. They have also done segments on the enormous challenges faced by the wounded with loss of limbs and the work beintg done to improve their chances of returning to a productive live. Additionally, they have had countless panel discussions on this subject from every aspect. To suggest somehow they "NEVER", your word, cover the war is a blatant lie. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Get your facts straight
June 17, 2008 - 08:26 ET by NewsbusterbrownGet your facts straight Jethro, you don't know what you're talking about.
He knows what the facts are. He just chooses to ignore them anyway.
“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
hey Newsbusterbrown
June 17, 2008 - 09:02 ET by JethrofishRemember that article Fox news did about how troop surges in a province decrease violence only until we leave that province, and stop paying them ?
Neither do I.
Facts, straight, please?
June 17, 2008 - 09:22 ET by expatriotJethro,
Not sure what your problem is but that is not happening and in fact the National Government is now funding more and more of the costs in Iraq. That is the Iraqi National Government. We are assisting the locals through the use of Provincial Reconstruction Teams, PRT's, and unit intervention. We are not pulling out and leaving vacuums either. These I know to be facts, not assertions or assumptions.
Do the research before shooting from the hip.
uhm
June 17, 2008 - 09:38 ET by JethrofishAgain you're telling the half of it. I never said there is no progress towards independence over there. I never said we leave a vaccuum. Fact is, according to our own generals, the iraqis can't hold one province on their own. Saying otherwize is denial, lies and propaganda.
That's what I'm saying and prove me and General Petraeus wrong and I'll give you back the remote control.
Just the opposite
June 17, 2008 - 09:50 ET by expatriotAgain you're telling the half of it. I never said there is no progress towards independence over there. I never said we leave a vaccuum. Fact is, according to our own generals, the iraqis can't hold one province on their own. Saying otherwize (otherwise) is denial, lies and propaganda.
No, I am right on. We are turning over provinces to the Iraqis. They are getting more independent and their solo trip to Sadr City is proof of that. We were not consulted when they made the move into the city and they are doing a good job of cleaning the place up. Deny that while your at it.
That's what I'm saying and prove me and General Petraeus wrong and I'll give you back the remote control.
I think that I will keep the remote and put the station on that you refuse to watch. You would probably learn something. General Patraeus did not say the Iraqis were not able to hold a province. They are doing it more and more and he testified to that. The local governments are working more and more efficiently and the local security is getting better as well. Try to keep up here.
his words - General Petraeus
June 17, 2008 - 10:07 ET by Jethrofish"Iraqi leaders have failed to take advantage of a reduction in violence
to make adequate progress toward resolving their political differences..
""no one" in the U.S. and Iraqi governments "feels that there has been
sufficient progress by any means in the area of national reconciliation"
-General Petraeus, March 13th 2008 in an interview with Cameron Barr, Washington Post before testifying to congress.
Ok the General and I are lying and you are right. Your "More and more" is relative and that can mean 1 or 2 more pro-gov Iraqis than the day before.
Progress doesn't mean CAPABLE this week or a year from now. Face the facts, turn on other channels, make the Iraqi's take charge of their own theocratic civil war and stop blindly sugar coating it.
Fox news has apparently served you poorly, sir.
Get up to date, sir.
June 17, 2008 - 10:13 ET by expatriotMarch, April, May, June. It looks like there were a couple of months between when the General made the statement and now. Your channels are not providing you with the updated information. Don't use four month old statements today. The facts on the ground are changing at a pace much quicker than that.
I can say that they are improving and that the Iraqis are taking more responsibility and progressing much faster than you are aware of. March 13th? It is the middle of June and the ground truth has changed since then. Stop the cherry picking, sir. And put down the remote. No one gave you permission to use it.
ok show me
June 17, 2008 - 10:42 ET by JethrofishShow me a newer quote by the good General, sir. Or any general. Where do your facts come from? Please don't say the Fox word. -They claimed the war was won 5 years ago.
Again....progress doesn't mean "adequate". 1 or 5 percent improvement is improvement but not "acceptable" and not excusable.
Reality-based leaders might soon have to go to war against Iran...and do you want the facts or do you want more lies and white washing? I want the truth and let's not fire the generals when they speak it. We might need other nations and when you say Iraq is peachy, they know we're full of it....and don't go along cuz we look like BS artists.
Again...show me these ground breaking quotes from military and not faux/ administration news. I agree there's progress - but not good enough, not fast enough, not permanent enough, not solid enough....and the Iraqis better shape up fast and drop their god fights cuz November is coming.
The more channels you watch, the more you can weed out lies and make decisions for yourself based on information and not bias.
p.s. was Saddam behind 9-11 and is Obama a muslim?
my remote.
p.s. was Saddam behind
June 17, 2008 - 11:07 ET by general companyp.s. was Saddam behind 9-11 and is Obama a muslim?
Who said he was ? And go ask Obama, one thing for sure is he is a soicialist wanabe, no doubt you are too.
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Full of ..it
June 17, 2008 - 11:01 ET by general company"Iraqi leaders have failed to take advantage of a reduction in violence
to make adequate progress toward resolving their political differences..
""no one" in the U.S. and Iraqi governments "feels that there has been
sufficient progress by any means in the area of national reconciliation"
Both of these quotes are way out of context, first off "Iraqi leaders", have very little to do with the Iraqi military and their ability to hold any province.
Second, "no one" should be satisfied with the current situation in Iraq, because we know we can do even more, just like here!
You are as sorry as the MSM you hold in such high regard
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
well..
June 17, 2008 - 11:13 ET by JethrofishGeneral Company,
It's true...the Iraqi military is actually local religeous gangs held together only by hatred of the other half and the few bucks we throw at them. The US-backed leaders obviously are limp tools.
In context with his other statement, the Petraeus's words can't be linked to "there's always room for improvement" crap. He was / is pissed off and frustrated. I can't believe you just typed that.
( And it's MSN, general....though I have fox on now. Not enough flags and the blond chick isn't wearing a lapel pin. She's good on youtube fox bloopers, though. Shepard Smith seems like a free thinking type. )
It's true...the Iraqi
June 17, 2008 - 11:19 ET by BDIt's true...the Iraqi military is actually local religeous gangs held together only by hatred of the other half and the few bucks we throw at them.
He was / is pissed off and frustrated.
fell swoops
June 17, 2008 - 12:12 ET by JethrofishBD,
Which similar patterns? I don't recall any recent religeous civil wars we've settled. Bosnia was fixed by Clinton/Nato but that was more ethnic and national than religeous. I think you are confusing wars of political ideology ( japan, germany ) we've had success over with wars of internal religeous conflicts...but correct me.
Even the Irish IRA thing ( again a Clinton-era fix ) was more a national anti-England thing than a Catholic vs. Protestant war of attrition...though that's a close one, granted, and it took almost a decade.
Yes improvement is possible and hopeful over there...but there are issues that have to be dealt with. Also he said that 3 months ago in a 6 year old war...and it's suddenly that much better since march and he'd take back his statement? Why hasn't he?
There's hopeful and then there's reality. Iran sending in insurgents to Iraq is called reality...and adult leaders have to deal with that and stop saying how great things are and blindly keep on doing the same old thing hoping it's going to change on its own.
Also the Taliban is massing on the Pakistan border and we are retreating, according to Fox news just now. Flag waiving lapel pin affirmations won't fix it but a few dozen tomahauk missiles into Pakistan is a start.
The next president is going to have to do what the current one should have done 4 years ago and I support that reality...how about you?
Which similar
June 17, 2008 - 13:08 ET by BDWhich similar patterns?
Yes improvement is possible and hopeful over there...but there are issues that have to be dealt with. Also he said that 3 months ago in a 6 year old war...and it's suddenly that much better since march and he'd take back his statement? Why hasn't he?
There's hopeful and then there's reality. Iran sending in insurgents to Iraq is called reality...and adult leaders have to deal with that and stop saying how great things are and blindly keep on doing the same old thing hoping it's going to change on its own.
Also the Taliban is massing on the Pakistan border and we are retreating,
Flag waiving lapel pin affirmations won't fix it but a few dozen tomahauk missiles into Pakistan is a start.
The next president is going to have to do what the current one should have done 4 years ago and I support that reality...how about you?
And it's MSN,
June 17, 2008 - 12:38 ET by general companyAnd it's MSN, general....
You are thick arnt you, MSN is part of the MSM, neither are worthy of quoting
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Here's one for starters, there are more.
June 18, 2008 - 04:52 ET by expatriotFish,
Good news from Iraq.
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200806/NAT20080615a.html
not "never"...rarely
June 17, 2008 - 08:42 ET by JethrofishBourbeau,
They are a shill for the administration as Scott McClellan was. I have yet to hear on Fox about how Ms Bush's children's hospital in Iraq hasn't been started yet completed because it's too dangerous to even break ground.
Do you think Fox would or will EVER air such a story? Yes, they have bits about wounded troops and new artificial limb technology. Yes, they show McCain touring the city on top of a tank surrounded by 80,000 troops. That is not how things really are over there and they equate it to a war on terror. Total BS.
Fox news is why most republicans think Saddam Hussein was behind 9-11. It's why its viewers think Obama is a muslim.
I bet that's what you believe, too.
Hey...I too like blonde news readers that become expert political analysts after 2 years in front of the camera...lol. Don't tell me it's anything close to objective or comprehensive journalism. Sound bites, bumper stickers and tabloids.
- love that bit they did about Obama's fist shake thing with his wife... " terrorist " thing?
Faux news is for scared white people and that's how they market. You choose your news.
Jethro!
June 17, 2008 - 09:00 ET by BourbeauI suggest you step away from the TV set; it's causing you brain damage. Listening to you, it's apparent, if you do watch Fox News, it's with the sound off. You're be called on because you stated quite clearly that Fox "NEVER" covered the war. Well, you're wrong; so be mature and suck it up, we didn't buy your dribble, and that litany of nonsese you just posted isn't worth a dime to comment on.
what the fox ?
June 17, 2008 - 09:21 ET by JethrofishAin't worth a dribble cuz it's true and you don't want to deal with it. I just want you to go against Fox news and tell me that Saddam wasn't behind 9-11 and that Obama isn't a Muslim.
Comon be one of them thar independent thinkars. I promise not to tell anyone.
Agent Double-ought Jethro,
June 17, 2008 - 09:48 ET by sam.i.amwhy don't you take a dip in the cement pond and relax.
Barack Hussein Obama is neither a muslim nor a Christian. His god is not important in Black Liberation Theology. Either religion works as a suitable backdrop for the anti-white hate. Why do you think Wright and Farrakhan are so tight? They share common goals.
Fox News is fair and balanced, for the most part. This site monitors them also. Nobody's perfect. I agree that they have their share of news bimbos, but many of their news babes have ended up on MSM channels. And they were flag pins and show American flag graphics--is that a bad thing?
Barack's God isn't good enough?
June 17, 2008 - 10:54 ET by JethrofishYea...he doesn't say "Jesus" enough in his speeches. If only he did, he'd get the other half. For some it's more than just saying words and then doing the opposite, Sam.
I dig the fox news babes and it helps me forget what they are saying. Truthfully I'd rather watch them mumbling anything than a homely NPR reporter making intelligent points....but that's because I'm shallow and TV is just entertainment, mostly.
If it were all about who wears the most lapel pins, flags, red white and blue underwear, etc.... Fox wins. A pig can do all those things, too. Frankly I'm surprised they don't wear bibles around their necks. Would that make them a more valid news source?
If they were really patriotic they'd wear 2 lapel pins. No, 3. I'll vote for the person with the most lapel pins. That was easy, Sam.
Elitism on parade
June 17, 2008 - 16:00 ET by UnsaneWhat an elitist, Socialist snob you are.
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
Jethro, didja figur' that out when you gradiated the 6th grade..
June 17, 2008 - 16:10 ET by R D Helm...the first time?
-Or was it the second time?
As for your assertion claiming National Proletariat Radio (what you know as NPR) makes "intelligent" comments is a joke.
Had this nation heeded the desires of that taxpayer-funded Marxist propaganda machine, the United States would be a Soviet satellite right now.
The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz
I just want you to go
June 17, 2008 - 13:21 ET by NewsbusterbrownI just want you to go against Fox news and tell me that Saddam wasn't behind 9-11 and that Obama isn't a Muslim.
Now you're just lying about Fox News.
“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
Is that you Jesse?
June 17, 2008 - 09:13 ET by KarmaYou can choose your news, but faux raux!
Nonsense. I have seen
June 17, 2008 - 11:14 ET by BDNonsense.
I have seen them discuss the fallen on numerous occasions and Ollie North has set the standard for supporting the troops for broadcasting interviews with soldiers in the field, something the other networks do not do.
The best example is the Medal of Honor presentation to SPC McGinnis. They covered the ceremony live, and in the days leading up to it covered the announcement as well. Something the others do not do. (See NYT)
The other networks SOLELY focus on casualties. In fact, last night on CNN while I was at the Gym, they showed a "face of the fallen" for a soldier killed in Iraq in FEBRUARY. They are having to go back as that to give the impression of high casualties.
get real interviews
June 17, 2008 - 11:35 ET by JethrofishOlly's on their payroll and gets paid to field positive troop interviews. Can you remember any troops saying anything negative? Do you think that's representative of the overall troop sentiment or do you think it's pro-administration spin?
Has he ever interviewed a new mother in the states who's husband is on 3rd tour? Why not?
Real reporters interview troops frustrated with not being able to blog, and filtering of the news, stop loss rules, lack of proper armour and helmets, etc. That's called balanced and it is patriotic and truthful and not BS.
It's all not peachy Olly North stuff. I talked to Olly when he was pushing his book on NPR. Yea, the evil liberal NPR interviewd him for an hour...in depth. Have you ever seen any democrat interviewd for an hour on Fox, in depth, open mic, unedited? Yea right.
Where was Fox on Walter Reed hospital? Support our troops...yea right. How about the 1 out of 5 that get back home and have debilitating mental problems....where are those interviews? Comon, Olly...that's not as good for ratings, I bet.
Medal of honor presentations? How about covering the bodies coming back to Dover air force base? Balanced coverage, huh?
"Supporting the troops" is a money game for them and fake patriotism.
Olly's on their payroll and
June 17, 2008 - 12:27 ET by BDOlly's on their payroll and gets paid to field positive troop interviews.
Can you remember any troops saying anything negative?
Do you think that's representative of the overall troop sentiment
or do you think it's pro-administration spin?
Has he ever interviewed a new mother in the states who's husband is on 3rd tour? Why not?
Real reporters interview troops frustrated with not being able to blog,
and filtering of the news
stop loss rules,
lack of proper armour and helmets, etc
That's called balanced and it is patriotic and truthful and not BS.
It's all not peachy Olly North stuff. I talked to Olly when he was pushing his book on NPR. Yea, the evil liberal NPR interviewd him for an hour...in depth. Have you ever seen any democrat interviewd for an hour on Fox, in depth, open mic, unedited? Yea right.
Where was Fox on Walter Reed hospital?
Support our troops...yea right. How about the 1 out of 5 that get back home and have debilitating mental problems....where are those interviews?
Medal of honor presentations? How about covering the bodies coming back to Dover air force base?
"Supporting the troops" is a money game for them and fake patriotism.
Great post BD,
June 17, 2008 - 12:55 ET by general companyGreat post BD, unfortunately I have no doubt that it fell on deaf ears. He isn't worth the time, because he doesn't value truth, and honesty, no matter how many times he uses the word "realist" he has know idea of its meaning.
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Yeah concur, but he must be
June 17, 2008 - 13:11 ET by BDYeah concur, but he must be confronted or the fiction he preaches defacto becomes the truth.
He is an teresting case since his ideology seems to be ultra-flexible, even within the same post. He is an ANTI-war NPR type, yet wants to loft SLCM at the drop of the hat into Pakistan. Fascinating. He seems to have NO values.
Jethro, you certainly have
June 17, 2008 - 15:36 ET by PeskyDaneJethro, you certainly have the democrat talking points down. As far as the presentation of the news, there is little to suggest that Fox is any less liberal than MSNBC and the rest of the alphabet soup networks. The salient difference is that they're not blatantly anti-American, thus proving that one can favor a greater role for government in our lives, and not be irrationally opposed to the interests of the United States.
Briany-boy
June 17, 2008 - 08:43 ET by kilrodI would still like to see an effort made to get these liberal biased idiot talking heads fired starting with brian williams at the top of the list. He is a coward, during the catrina debacle he got scared at the violence at the dome and moved his broadcasting booth to Baton Rouge, claiming he was worried for the safety of his crew, yeah right! I despise a coward bad mouthing our troops, and helping the enemy as them sorry pos's do.
kilrod
Remember, only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier
during the catrina
June 17, 2008 - 13:31 ET by general companyduring the catrina debacle he got scared at the violence at the dome and moved his broadcasting booth to Baton
This is funny, he must had started believing the 400 dead that he and the rest of the MSM were reporting. Frightened off by his own BS reporting,,,this exsplains a lot
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
What I find interesting is
June 17, 2008 - 16:05 ET by BDWhat I find intersting is that while Iowa is now going underwater, they are not looting, nor shooting at the helicopters flying overhead to support operations.
People are working hard to hold back the flood and will likewise do similar efforts to recover.
I guess like North Dakotans, South Mississippians, and Alabamans, Iowans are a better cut of people than those in New Orleans.
Wait a minute
June 17, 2008 - 16:06 ET by UnsaneWait a minute there, BD! I thought that we are ALL supposed to curl up into little balls and whine endlessly for the Government Nanny to come save us after a disaster and have an endless pity party afterwards.
What on earth are people in Iowa thinking? This self-reliance thing is SO overrated and a thing of the past.
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.