Just under a year after NBC turned over more than 75 hours of air time on several of their channels to Al Gore's “Live Earth: The Concerts for a Climate in Crisis,” Monday's NBC Nightly News championed Al Gore's “major endorsement” of Barack Obama -- as if a Democratic politician backing the Democratic nominee is newsworthy. (ABC's Jake Tapper gave the then-upcoming event a sentence while the CBS Evening News didn't mention any aspect of the presidential campaign. CNN and MSNBC covered the run-up during much of the 8 PM EDT hour and went live to Gore a little past 9:00 PM EDT. FNC showed video of Gore, but stayed with Hannity & Colmes guest Karl Rove.)
With Gore's words on screen, NBC's Lee Cowan trumpeted live from the venue in Detroit:
He says he'll do whatever he can to make sure that Barack Obama gets elected President. He announced his decision today on his blog, e-mailing a very deep list of supporters telling them to get behind this ticket both with a little elbow grease and with a little money as well. “I've never asked members of AlGore.com to contribute to a political campaign before,” he said, “but this moment and this election are too important to let pass without taking action.”
For network excitement over Gore getting a Nobel Prize, see my October 12 NewsBusters item: “ABC, CBS and NBC Hail 'Sweet Vindication' for Al Gore.”
My July 10 MRC CyberAlert article, “Gore Thanks NBC for 'Live Earth' Coverage, Curry Urges Him to Run,” recounted, with video (NewsBusters version by Geoffrey Dickens):
Appearing with Today news reader and Dateline anchor Ann Curry during NBC's prime time coverage Saturday of Al Gore's "Live Earth" concerts, Gore gave a shout out to the network for its donation to his global warming cause, as Gore told Curry: "Thanks for what NBC has been doing." Curry didn't exactly deliver a hard-hitting interview. When Gore declared the concerts "the largest global entertainment event in all of history," she congratulated him before pressing him about running for President, suggesting that "without you there will not be the political will in the White House to fight global warming."
She pleaded: "A lot of people want me to ask you tonight if you're running for President. And I know what you're answer is gonna be, believe me. I gotta ask you though. After fueling this grass roots movement, if you become convinced that without you there will not be the political will in the White House to fight global warming to the level that is required, because the clock is ticking, would you answer the call? Would you answer the call, yes or no?"
The story on the Monday, June 16 NBC Nightly News:
BRIAN WILLIAMS: Now to presidential politics and a major endorsement for Democrat Barack Obama tonight, in addition to a big defection from a former enemy camp. Our own Lee Cowan is with us tonight from the Joe Louis Arena in Detroit. Lee, good evening.
LEE COWAN: Good evening, Brian. This isn't all entirely unexpected, but this will be Al Gore's return to electoral politics, announcing tonight that he says he'll do whatever he can to make sure that Barack Obama gets elected President. He announced his decision today on his blog, e-mailing a very deep list of supporters telling them to get behind this ticket both with a little elbow grease and with a little money as well. [text on screen] “I've never asked members of AlGore.com to contribute to a political campaign before,” he said, “but this moment and this election are too important to let pass without taking action.”
Just where this is happening is important as well, Brian. It's here in Michigan. You'll remember this is where John Edwards made his big endorsement of Barack Obama, now Al Gore. That just shows how important this state is in Barack Obama's race for the White House.
One other note as you mentioned, we should point out that Clinton's former campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle, she'll will now be joining the Barack Obama campaign. We're told that she'll be chief of staff for whoever the Democratic vice presidential nominee turns out to be.
—Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center





Appearing with Today news reader and Dateline anchor Ann Curry during NBC's prime time coverage Saturday of Al Gore's "Live Earth" concerts, Gore gave a shout out to the network for its donation to his global warming cause, as Gore told Curry: "Thanks for what NBC has been doing." Curry didn't exactly deliver a hard-hitting interview. When Gore declared the concerts "the largest global entertainment event in all of history," she congratulated him before pressing him about running for President, suggesting that "without you there will not be the political will in the White House to fight global warming."
LEE COWAN: Good evening, Brian. This isn't all entirely unexpected, but this will be Al Gore's return to electoral politics, announcing tonight that he says he'll do whatever he can to make sure that Barack Obama gets elected President. He announced his decision today on his blog, e-mailing a very deep list of supporters telling them to get behind this ticket both with a little elbow grease and with a little money as well. [text on screen] “I've never asked members of AlGore.com to contribute to a political campaign before,” he said, “but this moment and this election are too important to let pass without taking action.”














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I wonder why? Could be Al
June 16, 2008 - 20:25 ET by dscottI wonder why? Could be Al Gore has a financial interest in Obama keeping the AGW issue alive another couple of years???? What better way to than to make sure you financially benefit by the person who is willing to do anything you say to get elected. To top it off, two conartists team tagging the American People to make them a mark.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
Al Gore is doing nothing
June 16, 2008 - 21:10 ET by kgAl Gore is doing nothing more than smooching Obama's butt in preparation of the vast sums of tax dollars soon to flow his way.
"Forget change, I want improvement!"
Doing Nothing? I think not!
June 16, 2008 - 21:33 ET by ambyGore is doing something more than the incredibly stupid pinheads who bitch and moan everday on Newsdusters. He has put global warming in the forefront of our thinking. Now, everyone knows that:
1) the climate is undergoing a pronounced warming trend beyond the range of natural variability;
2) the major cause of most of the observed warming is rising levels of the greenhouse gas CO2;
3) the rise in CO2 is the result of burning fossil fuels;
4) if CO2 continues to rise over the next century, the warming will continue; and
5) a climate change of the projected magnitude over this time frame
represents potential danger to human welfare and the environment.
And Al is not alone. These conclusions have been explicitly endorsed by:
Academia Brasiliera de Ciências (Bazil)
Royal Society of Canada
Chinese Academy of Sciences
Academié des Sciences (France)
Deutsche Akademie der Naturforscher Leopoldina (Germany)
Indian National Science Academy
Accademia dei Lincei (Italy)
Science Council of Japan
Russian Academy of Sciences
Royal Society (United Kingdom)
National Academy of Sciences (United States of America)
Australian Academy of Sciences
Royal Flemish Academy of Belgium for Sciences and the Arts
Caribbean Academy of Sciences
Indonesian Academy of Sciences
Royal Irish Academy
Academy of Sciences Malaysia
Academy Council of the Royal Society of New Zealand
Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences
In addition to these national academies, the following institutions
specializing in climate, atmosphere, ocean, and/or earth sciences have
endorsed these conclusions:
NASA's Goddard Institute of Space Studies (GISS)
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA)
National Academy of Sciences (NAS)
State of the Canadian Cryosphere (SOCC)
Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)
Royal Society of the United Kingdom (RS)
American Geophysical Union (AGU)
American Institute of Physics (AIP)
National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR)
American Meteorological Society (AMS)
Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society (CMOS)
These organizations also agree with the consensus:
The Earth Institute at Columbia University
Northwestern University
University of Akureyri
University of Iceland
Iceland GeoSurvey
National Centre for Atmospheric Science UK
Climate Group
Climate Institute
Climate Trust
Wuppertal Institute for Climate Environment and Energy
Royal Meteorological Society
Community Research and Development Centre Nigeria
Geological Society of London
Geological Society of America
UK Centre for Social and Economic Research on the Global Environment
Pew Center on Global Climate Change
American Association for the Advancement of Science
National Research Council
Juelich Research Centre
US White House
US Council on Environmental Quality
US Office of Science Technology Policy
US National Climatic Data Center
US Department of Commerce
US National Environmental Satellite, Data, and Information Service
The National Academy of Engineering
The Institute of Medicine
UK Natural Environment Research Council
Office of Science and Technology Policy
Council on Environmental Quality
National Economic Council
Office of Management and Budget
The National Academy of Engineering
The Institute of Medicine
UK Natural Environment Research Council
Australian Government Bureau of Meteorology
Engineers Australia
American Chemical Society
American Association of Blacks in Energy
World Petroleum Council
The Weather Channel
National Geographic
The following companies agree with the consensus:
ABB
Air France
Alcan
Alcoa
Allian
American Electric Power
Aristeia Capital
BASF
Bayer
BP America Inc.
Calvert Group
Canadian Electricity Association
Caterpilliar Inc.
Centrica
Ceres
Chevron
China Renewable
Citigroup
ConocoPhillips
Covanta Holding Corporation
Deutsche Telekom
Doosan Babcock Energy Limited
Duke Energy
DuPont
EcoSecurities
Electricity de France North America
Electricity Generating Authority of Thailand
Endesa
Energettech Austraila Pty Ltd
Energy East Corporation
Energy Holding Romania
Energy Industry Association
Eni
Eskorn
ETG International
Exelon Corporation
ExxonMobil
F&C Asset Management
FPL Group
General Electric
German Electricity Association
Glitnir Bank
Global Energy Network Institute, Iberdrola
ING Group
Institute for Global Environmental Strategies
Interface Inc.
International Gas Union
International Paper
International Power
Marsh & McLennan Companies
Massachusetts Municipal Wholesale Electric Company
MEDIAS-France
MissionPoint Capital Partners
Munich Re
National Grid
National Power Company of Iceland
NGEN mgt II, LLC
NiSource
NRG Energy
PG&E Corporation
PNM Resources
Reykjavik Energy
Ricoh
Rio Tinto Energy Services
Rockefeller Brothers Fund
Rolls-Royce
Societe Generale de Surveillance (SGS Group)
Stora Enso North America
Stratus Consulting
Sun Management Institute
Swiss Re
UCG Partnership
US Geothermal
Verde Venture Partners
Volvo
In addition, the scientific consensus is also endorsed by the CEO's of the following companies:
A. O. Smith Corporation
Abbott Laboratories
Accenture Ltd.
ACE Limited
ADP
Aetna Inc.
Air Products and Chemicals, Inc.
AK Steel Corporation
Alcatel-Lucent
Allstate Insurance Company
ALLTEL Corporation
Altec Industries, Inc.
American Electric Power Company, Inc.
American Express Company
American International Group, Inc.
Ameriprise Financial
AMR Corporation/American Airlines
Anadarko Petroleum Corporation
Apache Corporation
Applera Corporation
Arch Coal, Inc.
Archer Daniels Midland Company
ArvinMeritor, Inc.
AstraZeneca Pharmaceuticals LP
Avery Dennison Corporation
Avis Budget Group, Inc.
Bechtel Group, Inc.
BNSF Railway
Boeing Company
Brink's Company
CA
Carlson Companies, Inc.
Case New Holland Inc.
Ceridian Corporation
Chemtura Corporation
Chubb Corporation
CIGNA Corporation
Coca-Cola Company
Constellation Energy Group, Inc.
Convergys Corporation
Con-way Incorporated
Corning Incorporated
Crane Co.
CSX Corporation
Cummins Inc.
Deere & Company
Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu
Delphi Corporation
Dow Chemical Company
Eastman Chemical Company
Eastman Kodak Company
Eaton Corporation
EDS
Eli Lilly and Company
EMC Corporation
Ernst & Young, L.L.P.
Fannie Mae
FedEx Corporation
Fluor Corporation
FMC Corporation
Freddie Mac
General Mills, Inc.
General Motors Corporation
Goldman Sachs Group, Inc.
Goodrich Corporation
Harman International Industries, Inc.
Hartford Financial Services Group
Home Depot, Inc., The
Honeywell International, Inc.
HSBC - North America
Humana Inc.
IBM Corporation
Ingersoll-Rand Company
International Textile Group
ITT Corporation
Johnson Controls, Inc.
JP Morgan Chase & Co.
KPMG LLP
Liberty Mutual Group
MassMutual
MasterCard Incorporated
McGraw-Hill Companies
McKesson Corporation
MeadWestvaco Corporation
Medco Health Solutions, Inc.
Merck & Co., Inc.
Merrill Lynch & Company, Inc.
MetLife, Inc.
Morgan Stanley
Motorola, Inc.
Nasdaq Stock Market, Inc.
National Gypsum Company
Nationwide
Navistar International Corporation
New York Life Insurance Company
Norfolk Southern Corporation
Northwestern Mutual Life Insurance Company
Nucor Corporation
NYSE Group, Inc.
Office Depot, Inc.
Owens Corning (Reorganized) Inc.
Pactiv Corporation
Peabody Energy Corporation
Pfizer Inc
PPG Industries, Inc.
Praxair, Inc.
PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP
Principal Financial Group
Procter & Gamble Company
Prudential Financial
Realogy Corporation
Rockwell Automation, Inc.
Ryder System, Inc.
SAP America, Inc.
Sara Lee Corporation
SAS Institute Inc.
Schering-Plough Corporation
Schneider National, Inc.
ServiceMaster Company
Siemens Corporation
Southern Company
Springs Global US, Inc.
Sprint Nextel
St. Paul Travelers Companies, Inc.
State Farm Insurance Companies
Tenneco
Texas Instruments Incorporated
Textron Incorporated
Thermo Fisher Scientific Inc.
TIAA-CREF
Tyco Electronics
Tyco International Ltd.
Union Pacific Corporation
Unisys Corporation
United Technologies Corporation
UnitedHealth Group Incorporated
USG Corporation
Verizon Communications
W.W. Grainger, Inc.
Western & Southern Financial Group
Weyerhaeuser Company
Whirlpool Corporation
Williams Companies, Inc.
Xerox Corporation
YRC Worldwide Inc
Bet this post doesn't last long :) My last post was completely re-written by Noel Sheepdog and his flock of small-minded followers.
Doesn't matter how many
June 16, 2008 - 21:41 ET by MidAmericaDoesn't matter how many people 'believe' in global warming/climate change. No one with a thermometer can find it.
Excellent response
June 17, 2008 - 02:40 ET by ambyYour agrument is so convincing I think I'll change my mind. Never thought of it that way. So very insightful.
My Argument is Overwhelming
June 17, 2008 - 07:28 ET by PopularTech"More informed respondents both feel less personally responsible for global warming, and also show less concern for global warming"
- 2008 Texas A&M University Study
Climate of Fear (Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT)
The Case for Skepticism on Global Warming (Michael Crichton, A.B. Anthropology, M.D. Harvard)
Climate chaos? Don't believe it (Christopher Monckton, The Daily Telegraph, UK)
Videos:
20/20: Give Me a Break: Global Warming (Video) (8min)
The Great Global Warming Swindle (Video) (1hr 14min)
CNN: Exposed: Climate of Fear (Video) (42min)
Bullshit! - Environmental Hysteria (Video) (29min)
CBC: Documentary: Doomsday Called Off (Video) (44min)
George Carlin - The Planet is Fine (Adults Only) (Video) (8min)
Guides:
A Global Warming Primer (PDF) (National Center for Policy Analysis)
A Skeptic’s Guide to Debunking Global Warming Alarmism (PDF) (US Senate Environment & Public Works Committee)
A Skeptical Layman's Guide to Anthropogenic Global Warming (PDF) (Climate Skeptic)
Global Warming FAQ (PDF) (Competitive Enterprise Institute)
Global Warming: Science vs. Nonsense (PDF) (EIR Economics)
Myths:
Fallacies about Global Warming (Science & Public Policy Institute)
Five Biggest Myths about Global Warming (The Washington Examiner)
Global Warming: Fact and Myth (S. Fred Singer, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Environmental Sciences)
Global Warming Myths (Friends of Science)
Green Myths On Global Warming - Debunked (The Association of British Drivers, UK)
Heartland President Debunks Global Warming Myths (The Heartland Institute)
Myths and Facts About the Environment (National Center for Public Policy Research)
Myths of Global Warming (National Center for Policy Analysis)
The Global Warming Myth? (John Stossel, ABC News)
Top 10 Climate Myth-Busters for 2007 (Steve Milloy, B.A. Natural Sciences, M.S. Health Sciences)
Top 10 Environmental Myths (PDF) (U.S. Chamber of Commerce)
Top 10 'Global-Warming' Myths (Human Events)
Papers:
A Climate of Belief (PDF) (Patrick Frank, Ph.D. Chemistry)
Apocalypse Cancelled (PDF) (Christopher Monckton, Former Policy Advisor for British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher)
Carbon Dioxide is not the primary cause of global warming (PDF) (Allan M.R. MacRae, B.Sc., M.Eng.)
Carbon Emissions Don’t Cause Global Warming (PDF) (David Evans, B.Sc. Physics, M.S. Statistics, Ph.D. Engineering)
Climate Change Re-examined (PDF) (Joel M. Kauffman, Ph.D. Organic Chemistry, MIT)
Climate Science: Climate Change and Its Impacts (PDF) (David R. Legates, Ph.D. Climatology)
CO2: The Greatest Scientific Scandal of Our Time (PDF) (Zbigniew Jaworowski, M.D. Ph.D. D.Sc.)
Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide (PDF) (Arthur Robinson, Ph.D. Chemistry)
Global Warming and Nature's Thermostat (Roy Spencer, Ph.D. Meteorology)
Global Warming - Is Carbon Dioxide Getting a Bad Rep? (PDF) (Joseph D’Aleo, M.S. Meteorology)
Is the Sky Really Falling? A Review of Recent Global Warming Scare Stories (PDF) (Patrick J. Michaels, Ph.D. Ecological Climatology)
Is There a Basis for Global Warming Alarm? (Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT)
Nature, Not Human Activity, Rules the Climate (PDF) (S. Fred Singer, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Environmental Sciences)
Pseudoscientific elements in climate change research (PDF) (Arthur Rörsch, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Molecular Genetics)
The Acquittal of Carbon Dioxide (Jeffrey A. Glassman, Ph.D. Applied Physicist and Engineer)
The Increase in Global Temperature: What it Does and Does Not Tell Us (PDF) (Robert C. Balling Jr., Ph.D. Professor of Climatology)
The Lynching of Carbon Dioxide - The Innocent Source of Life (PDF) (Martin Hertzberg, Ph.D. Physical Chemistry)
The Myth of Dangerous Human Caused Climate Change (PDF) (Robert (Bob) M. Carter, B.Sc. Geology, Ph.D. Paleontology)
The IPCC's dubious evidence for a human influence on climate (PDF) (John McLean, Climate Data Analyst)
The Science Isn't Settled - The Limitations of Global Climate Models (PDF) (Timothy (Tim) F. Ball, Ph.D. Historical Climatologist)
Reports:
Independent Summary for Policymakers: IPCC Fourth Assessment Report (PDF) (The Fraser Institute)
The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource
All i have to say
June 17, 2008 - 14:03 ET by red_dragon311All i have to say is
BAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
-Gerald Ford
amby... Planetary
June 16, 2008 - 21:43 ET by bigtimeramby...
Planetary Emergency!
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson
Your last post was
June 16, 2008 - 21:46 ET by SchnikeysYour last post was re-written by Noel Sheppard, even though it doesn't seem to show up when somebody does a post tracking for your user name?
Either you're lying, or you can't get your story straight.
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"It could be the answer to our age-old, philosophical question, 'Why are we here?' PLASTIC!"
Last Post Was Re-Written by Noel Sheepdog
June 16, 2008 - 22:22 ET by ambyI used a different sign-on last time. Oooooh, I'm so afraid of all of you. The best you can do is call me names. Very adult of you.
Amby
June 16, 2008 - 22:26 ET by Free StinkerI'm so afraid of all of you. The best you can do is call me names. Very adult of you.
I didn't call you any names in my post. But *you* ignored it. Did the facts confuse you?
Here is the link to my previous post to make it easy for you or just look below
Name Callers
June 16, 2008 - 22:34 ET by ambySorry, I just lump all of you into the same category . . . kinda like you do to us.
" the incredibly stupid
June 16, 2008 - 22:38 ET by mastersofdeceit" the incredibly stupid pinheads who bitch and moan everday on Newsdusters."
Pot meet kettle.
Very adult of you.
Names
June 16, 2008 - 23:17 ET by ambyOnly way to get your attention. When in ADS world act like everybody else.
»→ I'm guessing
June 16, 2008 - 23:22 ET by Cool Arrow2nd year Psych major.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE
Nah, CA. 2nd grade Psych
June 17, 2008 - 07:46 ET by MassConservNah, CA. 2nd grade Psych major. Sounds like Chapter 6 stuff, after they cover I'm Rubber, You're Glue: Defining Debate Scopes.
Hey
June 17, 2008 - 08:48 ET by harqmanI demand you apologize to all us psych majors. I am not saying you are wrong. I am just saying I don't want to be lumped in with this clown. Granted most psych majors are like this guy. But some of us got there because we got too drunk as business majors and psych was the only place to get a degree to get out the door.
With a Masters I am really dangerous. As you can imagine I was not very popular in graduate school. 1 vs. 20 was not fair odds, for them. Kinda like Amby coming here. Silly really. He does indeed have some issues he needs to get addressed soon. Moving out of his moms basement would be an outstanding start.
All that education to own my own med distrib company. God Bless America.
Translation, you have no
June 16, 2008 - 22:38 ET by Free StinkerTranslation, you have no answer for my debunking of my "global warming" remarks.
I'm also wondering how you explain the warming of other planets and satellites when there are no humans causing "global warming" on these planets?
Take your time. I can see you aren't used to dealing with facts.
Still waiting amby . . .
June 16, 2008 - 23:18 ET by Free Stinker<updated again> Still waiting amby . . .
Are you trolling or do you want to debate?
Come on, why are other planets heating up?
Not trolling, eating
June 17, 2008 - 01:00 ET by ambyTolls have to eat too.
Other planets
June 17, 2008 - 02:09 ET by ambyDon't know, don't really care. Just concerned about my home. Oh, wait, that's your line.
»→ Amby
June 17, 2008 - 02:25 ET by Cool ArrowSo you're really not interested in entertaining another explanation?
You aren't claiming the dwindling Arctic Penguin population is also caused by Global Warming, are you?
LYDSEXICS UNTIE
Don't know, don't really
June 17, 2008 - 20:56 ET by Free StinkerDon't know, don't really care.
Translation, I realize THE SUN is warming up those other planets, but refuse to admit it.
amby, Noel Sheepdog? Lol.
June 16, 2008 - 22:35 ET by R D HelmAnd no, the best we can do is far more than just call you names.
Please be sure to have BIG fun on your ride back to the Kosylem. :-)
Oh, I almost forgot my manners: WELCOME TO HELL, TROLL!
The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz
Thank you
June 17, 2008 - 01:01 ET by ambyHave you been saving a place for me. How's the weather down here?
Noel doesn't re-write a
June 16, 2008 - 22:35 ET by NL207Noel doesn't re-write a thing here. THAT is the province of Bob Ostertag over at HuffPost.
Your new screen name is a violation of NB policy. Lets make an educated guess you are so techincally clueless as to not recognize Noel could track you via your source IP address. That you haven't been banned already for violating NB use agreements is testimony that Noel could care less about an insignificant little t**d like you. You aren't worth his time. Besides, your stupid posts only prove what an idiot you are. Why would we want that to stop?
Troll?
June 16, 2008 - 22:40 ET by ambyBeen there, done it. My I.P. has been banned before. First they call you names, then you are labled a TROLL, your posting is re-written to make you sound nuts, and then you are banned. All for speaking your mind. Guess you only want one point of view -- yours. Newsdusters can't really be taken seriously unless you allow for more than one point of view, or is this just a place where small-minded people come to mark there common territory?
You continue to demonstrate
June 16, 2008 - 22:43 ET by NL207You continue to demonstrate an inability to refute the arguments you've been presented with and instead, whine. I just demolished the underpinnings of your screed. You don't seem able to formulate a cogent defense.
Debate?
June 17, 2008 - 02:47 ET by ambyDebate? Last I saw this section is labled "Comments", not "Debate". What's with you people. I feel like a black man who has just stumbled into a KKK meeting.
»→ amby
June 17, 2008 - 03:26 ET by Cool ArrowI doubt you are either "black" or "male"
But of course , I'm not surprised you would make Klan jokes.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE
Precisely. We comment on
June 17, 2008 - 03:39 ET by SchnikeysPrecisely. We comment on each other's comments. It's just more efficient to call it a debate. :)
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"It could be the answer to our age-old, philosophical question, 'Why are we here?' PLASTIC!"
You act more like a drunk
June 17, 2008 - 06:30 ET by NL207You act more like a drunk who just stumbled into the bar at the Waldorf.
Since you are unable to comprehend the concept of debate, Think of it as an ideological food fight. Perhaps you ccan grasp that?
»→ Won't you guess my name
June 16, 2008 - 22:44 ET by Cool ArrowMy I.P. has been banned before.
Tumbler
Leon
Oh for the days when we had a better class of troll.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE
Why does anyone care who the
June 16, 2008 - 22:45 ET by NL207Why does anyone care who the twit actually is? He or she is about to lose a debate.
Lose a debate? really
June 16, 2008 - 22:50 ET by Cool ArrowShe comes in here talking about "consensus" and cites a bunch of companies that hedge their bets with AGW lipservice, and you're thinking a debate might break out?
OK, I'll back off and watch until it gets really boring.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE
I always give them the
June 16, 2008 - 23:00 ET by NL207I always give them the benefit of the doubt.
This new troll isn't even
June 16, 2008 - 22:47 ET by Free StinkerThis new troll isn't even quallified to be an rhayes jr.
...or St. Jimmy... "Never
June 16, 2008 - 22:55 ET by bigtimer...or St. Jimmy...
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson
Free, LOL-Wow, that is damning...
June 16, 2008 - 23:02 ET by R D Helm...in the extreme.
:-)
The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz
Cool,
June 17, 2008 - 06:57 ET by BlondeThe appropriate phrase is:
We need a better class of troll, here.
Feel free to use it.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
We do take more than one
June 16, 2008 - 22:51 ET by SchnikeysWe do take more than one point of view. They're what help make this site valuable. Take a look around and see for yourself. The only things on this site that are expelled are trolls and nonsense, the latter of which is only expelled after a debate (unless it is very obviously nonsense).
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"It could be the answer to our age-old, philosophical question, 'Why are we here?' PLASTIC!"
The Truth is, Perfessor...
June 17, 2008 - 07:26 ET by Karma...your posting is re-written to make you sound nuts... (amby)
amby,
Unless all of your posts have been re-written here, your problem goes far beyond just sounding nuts.
Noel Does Re-write Posts
June 16, 2008 - 22:44 ET by ambyI exposed Noel in the comments sections of one of his posts. It was completely re-written withing minutes of posting and still signed with my logon.
Proffesser Truth
June 16, 2008 - 22:46 ET by shawn228Always had this conspiricy theory, do you students still dislike you?
scorecard
June 16, 2008 - 22:48 ET by Free Stinkershawn: 5
new troll: 0
Extra points for having me ROFL
lol
June 16, 2008 - 22:50 ET by shawn228thx fs, those points aren't easy for me to come by :-) I truly think it sounds more like PT than Dave High.
I think you nailed it.
June 16, 2008 - 22:52 ET by Free StinkerI think you nailed it.
»→ No Shawn
June 16, 2008 - 22:54 ET by Cool Arrowit's the Professor returning after his lobotomy.
He never could agree with his right hemisphere.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE
LOL.
June 16, 2008 - 23:33 ET by R D HelmThe truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz
Shawn
June 17, 2008 - 00:24 ET by RESTLESS 1I am just waiting for the inevitable "go to realclimate and check it out" post. I've been thiking PT as well.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Noel isn't even logged on
June 16, 2008 - 22:48 ET by NL207Noel isn't even logged on right now. And you can't defend your positoin vis-a-vis Anthropogenic global warming.
Stop whining, debate, or look like the fool you are showing yourself.
Link please, amby?
June 16, 2008 - 22:59 ET by R D HelmElse your ass is burnt toast.
The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz
Burnt toast?
June 17, 2008 - 02:52 ET by ambyYeah Helm. Real intelligent. My ass is burnt toast. All the other boys must think you are really something for saying that! Oooooh.
amby,err, Perfesser Twaddle,
June 17, 2008 - 13:24 ET by R D HelmStill no link, I see.
Color me surprised.
The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz
Noel?
June 16, 2008 - 23:15 ET by ambyOh, yes. The mighty OZ. Is the the god of your little cult? And you talk about Al Gore having a following liken to a religon. Looked at yourselves lately?
amby... I have a mind of
June 16, 2008 - 23:21 ET by bigtimeramby...
I have a mind of my own...and from the looks of things I'm sure you must have a back-up user name at the ready...cuz you know already you aren't going to be lasting around here long or you wouldn't be posting what you are tonight...
Amusing...immature...but still amusing.
Troll on...roll 'em roll' em roll 'em...
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson
The "god" of our little cult? Put down the crack pipe, amby.
June 16, 2008 - 23:23 ET by R D HelmPerfesser Twit,
Noel pretty much kicked your government-schooled ass on a regular basis. In fact, I fail to recall even one instance where you even remotely approached getting the better of him.
Give it up, will ya?
The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz
Professor Troll
June 17, 2008 - 20:59 ET by Free StinkerI can think of at least one reason The Prof returned.
He wanted to make us forget when The Prof admited that Global Warming isn't melting Glaciers Ha ha!
Didn't kick my ass
June 17, 2008 - 01:15 ET by ambyNoel never kicked my ass, since I only comment once to one of his articles. That was the one he re-wrote and kept my name on. Very ethical indeed.
Amby
June 17, 2008 - 21:13 ET by Free StinkerNoel never kicked my ass
Sure he did.
Now he's letting the rest of us do the same thing.
amby, Noel never kicked your arse???? LMAO!
June 18, 2008 - 00:25 ET by R D HelmDude, I just wonder how many pairs of shoes Noel had to replace due to the fact that he lost so many up your.... well, you know. :-)
The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz
you can whine and cry
June 16, 2008 - 23:51 ET by bigpapafor being proved wrong but you haven't been deleted lke I have at the DU or DKOS...
see the difference....
no... you probably don't.....sad, truly sad
DU and Koz
June 17, 2008 - 01:13 ET by ambyWouldn't know, since I have never posted to those sites. Actually, I haven't been by here in over 6 months, but I saw Al endorsing Obama on the news tonight and just knew Al would be the next lead story. You guys jump out windows every time he gets press. Very predictable. Not disappointed, I thought I'd jump in and see who reads Newsdusters these days. See if anyone takes my side like they use to. I am pleased to see it is only the loons. Nighty, night.
Welcome back, Perfessor Twit!
June 16, 2008 - 23:07 ET by R D HelmI used a different sign-on last time.
LOL-Lost your password, did ya?
The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz
Well in that case, nice job
June 16, 2008 - 23:02 ET by SchnikeysWell in that case, nice job telling users that your post was re-written without providing the crucial bit of information that you had a different screen name.
There was no name calling directed at you in my previous post, only a suspicion that you either were not be telling the truth or that you didn't get your story straight- two perfectly legitimate suspicions. Turns out you did not adequately describe the situation of Noel allegedly editing your post, as you did not care to mention that said post was under a different screen name. That seems to fall under you witholding the truth. No insults. And referring to Noel Sheppard as "Noel Sheepdog" seems to be name-calling. But I sense that I will be wasting my time if I continue dealing with you, so all I will say is have fun on NewsBusters, and try not to let your urge to troll overtake you. But other members seem to not have any faith in that, so I'm not going to hold my breath.
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"It could be the answer to our age-old, philosophical question, 'Why are we here?' PLASTIC!"
I just want to know who
June 16, 2008 - 23:03 ET by bigtimerI just want to know who would waste their time to bother rewriting any of his posts in their right mind ... past or present.
....NOBODY!
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson
»→ Their right mind?
June 16, 2008 - 23:11 ET by Cool ArrowAmby-dextrous is now channeling her "left mind"
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"I used a different sign-on
June 17, 2008 - 08:01 ET by danbo"I used a different sign-on last time."
Affraid to use the same sign on? Using different sign ons to pretend you're someone else?
As you said. "Very adult of you."
"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT
Amby
June 16, 2008 - 21:46 ET by Free StinkerLOL
1) the climate is undergoing a pronounced warming trend beyond the range of natural variability;
Actualy, Global warming stopped in 1998
2) the major cause of most of the observed warming is rising levels of the greenhouse gas CO2;
3) the rise in CO2 is the result of burning fossil fuels;
Carbon Dioxide accounts for about 4.2-8.4% of the greenhouse effect. Multiply that by the 3.4% of carbon dioxide emitted to the atmosphere annually that Humans can claim responsibility for, and you get a huge 0.2856% of global wrming that is human related.
4) if CO2 continues to rise over the next century, the warming will continue; and
See Above
5) a climate change of the projected magnitude over this time framerepresents potential danger to human welfare and the environment.
Did you know? The Oldest DNA ever recovered shows warmer planet: report
Don't confuse amby pamby
June 16, 2008 - 21:50 ET by Clear thinkerDon't confuse amby pamby with facts.
Wait until Pop Tech and Noel get ahold of this guys neck. Hehehehehe!
"Abstain from McCain"
Ct... I've been chuckling
June 16, 2008 - 21:53 ET by bigtimerCt...
I've been chuckling to myself thinking about the exact same thing with both you mentioned.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson
This may just be the last gasp.
June 16, 2008 - 21:53 ET by pbthinkerTell you what, AMBY, you have a better job of getting this post to stay on this site than any of us would at the KOS. THis just may be Gore's last gasp at this, now that 31,000 scientists, including over 9,000 PHD's have signed a petition saying his theories are garbage, things will start to change.
The pity is that, had Gore not lied and exaggerated so much, he may have been able to pull this off. Now, the only people that believe him are the kool-aid drinkers, such as you. The Europeans are looking at the taxes that have been imposed on them and they're beginning to understand that, despite billions of dollar equivalents being wasted, they've accomplished little. They're also coming to the realization that this money could be put to much better use. Now, lets see how long it takes them to elect politicians that understand this. Once that's done, Gore is finished.
Finally, right now people are going to be making a choice between believing Gore and his fear mongering, or voting in politicians who will drill our own natural resources. Who do you think is going to win that one, $5.00 gasoline and Al Gore, or the people that want to drill and not depend on Hugo Chavez for our oil? My bet is on the drill bit.
Democrats: Stuck on Stupid since 2000.
Exactly, PB
June 16, 2008 - 23:01 ET by RESTLESS 1And we all know the Kyoto Protocol has been suck a marked success. </sarc>
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Ah! The infamous Oregon Petition
June 16, 2008 - 23:01 ET by ambyA simple Google search found tons of posts describing this so-called "petition" signed by 31,000 "scientists". Here is some of what I found out about Art Robinson who spearheaded this ill-fated project:
Robinson "acknowledges he has done no direct research into global warming." (source). Robinson is the founder of a group called the “Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine” (OISM ), which markets, among other things, a home-schooling kit for "parents concerned about socialism in the public schools" and books on how to survive nuclear war.
In April 1998, Robinson’s Oregon Institute, along with the Exxon-backed George C. Marshall Institute
, released a petition on global warming and the Kyoto Protocol that was
so misleading it prompted the National Academy of Science to issue a
news release stating that: "The petition project was a deliberate
attempt to mislead scientists and to rally them in an attempt to
undermine support for the Kyoto Protocol.”
The infamous "Oregon Petition"
The Oregon Petition has been used by climate change deniers as proof
that there is no scientific consensus, however they fail to note the
controversy surrounding the petition itself. In April 1998, Robinson’s
Oregon Institute, along with the Exxon-backed George C. Marshall Institute
, co-published the infamous “Oregon Petition” claiming to have
collected 17,000 signatories to a document arguing against the
realities of global warming.
The petition and the documents included were all made to look like official papers from the prestigious National Academy of Science . They weren’t, and this attempt to mislead has been well-documented.
Along with the petition there was a cover letter from Dr. Fred Seitz
a notorious climate change denier (and big tobacco scientist), who over
30 years ago was the president of the National Academy of Science. Also
attached to the petition was an apparent “research paper”
titled: Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide.
The paper was made to mimic what a research paper would look like in
the National Academy’s prestigious Proceedings of the National Academy
journal. The authors of the paper were Robinson, Sallie Baliunas,
Willie Soon (both oil-backed scientists) and Robinson’s son Zachary.
With the signature of a former NAS president and a research paper that
appeared to be published in one of the most prestigious science
journals in the world, many scientists were duped into signing a
petition based on a false impression.
The petition was so misleading that the National Academy issued a news release
stating that: "The petition project was a deliberate attempt to mislead
scientists and to rally them in an attempt to undermine support for the
Kyoto Protocol. The petition was not based on a review of the science
of global climate change, nor were its signers experts in the field of
climate science."
Oregon petition and big tobacco
It’s
interesting to note that Fred Sietz, the author of the cover letter is
also the former medical advisor to RJ Reynolds medical research
program. A 1989 Philip Morris memo
stated that Seitz was: “quite elderly and not sufficiently rational to
offer advice.” However, 9 years later, it seems that he was
“sufficiently rational” to lead the charge on Robinson’s Oregon
Petition. It also seems that Seitz is still “sufficiently rational” to sit as the Chair of notorious climate change denier, Fred Singer’s, Science and Environmental Policy Project.
Oregon Petition and the Spice Girls
According to the May, '98 Associated Press article
, the Oregon petition included names that were intentionally placed to
prove the invalid methodology with which the names of scientists were
collected. The petition included the names of "Drs. 'Frank Burns'
'Honeycutt' and 'Pierce' from the hit-show M*A*S*H and Spice Girls,
a.k.a. Geraldine Halliwell, who was on the petition as 'Dr. Geri
Halliwel' and again as simply 'Dr. Halliwell.' " Of the fake names,
Robinson is quoted as saying: "When we're getting thousands of
signatures there's no way of filtering out a fake."
Robinson admits he is not a climate scientist
Of his own admission Robinson "acknowledges he has done no direct research into global warming," and an ISI database search of publications confirms that Robinson has never published any research in the area of human-induced climate change.
Source
June 16, 2008 - 23:05 ET by ambyBefore any calls me a plagiarizer, the information presented above comes from DeSmogBlog.com, and was cooborated by dozens of other sources.
Gee. We have something from
June 17, 2008 - 07:57 ET by danboGee. We have something from a public relations firm. "The DeSmogBlog team is led by Jim Hoggan, the president of the public relations firm James Hoggan & Associates"
A spin group. And you complain about other people.
I see they're only show suing big oil. They ignore people suing big green.
Any soap you want to sell. It's the best soap ever made.
"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT
No Suprise Amby uses a Smear Site as a Source...
June 17, 2008 - 08:09 ET by PopularTechDeSmogBlog
- Who is James Hoggan? (Financial Post, Canada)
"So who is James Hoggan? He's a public relations man, based in Vancouver. His firm, James Hoggan and Associates, is positioned as a feel-good local operation with clients in all the "right" public and private sectors. He also sits on the board of the David Suzuki Foundation.
One of his side efforts is a blog operated out of Hoggan and Associates. Funded by retired Internet bubble king John Lefebvre, the blog has one full-time and three part-time staff. They spend their time tracking down and maliciously attacking all who have doubts about climate change and painting them as corporate pawns.
There has been no mention on the blog, nor on The Fifth Estate, of James Hoggan's client list. They include or have included the National Hydrogen Association, Fuel Cells Canada, hydrogen producer QuestAir, Naikun Wind Energy and Ballard Fuel Cells. Mr. Hoggan, in other words, benefits from regulatory policy based on climate change science.
But it is as a climate commentator that Mr. Hoggan gets carried away. On The Denial Machine, Mr. Hoggan is allowed to go on at some length about how climate skeptics are not true scientists, are not qualified, or have no expertise.
That takes some gall. Here's a totally unqualified small-town PR guy making disparaging comments about scientists he says are unqualified while he lectures the rest of us on the science. "If you look in the scientific literature, there is no debate," he tells Mr. McKeown. It doesn't seem to bother Mr. McKeown that Mr. Hoggan has no expertise. It is also a little rich to have a
member of the Suzuki Foundation board pronounce other scientists unfit and unqualified for climate assessments, while geneticist David Suzuki roams the world issuing barrages of climate change warnings at every opportunity."
The information on that site is worthless and inaccurate - with only one intention to smear honorable scientists and to push propaganda like you are trying to do here.
The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource
The interesting thing. PR
June 17, 2008 - 08:41 ET by danboThe interesting thing. PR firms as Mr Hoggan have spent a lot more money than they whine about EXXON spending. Plus they have a lot of free press from the media. And they still haven't convinved the American people, and it looks like the Canadian people, and the English where they're about to revolt from the high taxes.
All that money. They're still losing in the hearts of the people.
"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT
»→ Amby
June 16, 2008 - 23:06 ET by Cool ArrowWould you list Al Gore's scientific credentials please.
Slideshow host doesn't qualify.
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Al Gore?
June 16, 2008 - 23:11 ET by ambyAhem, did I say Al Gore is a scientist?
»→ Art Robinson
June 16, 2008 - 23:18 ET by Cool ArrowRobinson "acknowledges he has done no direct research into global warming."
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Scientist claim
June 17, 2008 - 02:18 ET by ambyGore doesn't claim to be a scientist. Robinson does.
»→ Thanks, Amby
June 17, 2008 - 02:30 ET by Cool ArrowYou just admitted Scientist Robinson has more business in the Sdientific arena than Gore with his A/V skills.
Unless you choose to claim Robinson isn't a scientist at all. Is that your claim?
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Dr. Art Robinson vs. The "Prophet" Al Gore
June 17, 2008 - 07:48 ET by PopularTechArthur B. Robinson, Ph.D. Chemistry, University of California, San Diego
Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide
(Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, Volume 12, Number 3, 2007)
- Arthur B. Robinson, Noah E. Robinson, Willie Soon
Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide
(Climate Research, Vol. 13, Pg. 149–164, October 26 1999)
- Arthur B. Robinson, Zachary W. Robinson, Willie Soon, Sallie L. Baliunas
Al Gore, B.A. Government, Divinity School Dropout (no science degree)
No Published Papers on Climate
Looks like Dr. Robinson is more qualified to talk about the harmful effects of CO2 than the Goracle.
The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource
Amby, you said "He has
June 16, 2008 - 23:23 ET by mastersofdeceitAmby, you said
"He has put global warming in the forefront of our thinking"
So since he's not a scientist I guess no one should be listening to him.
Please list the scientific credentials for the CEO's of Allstate Insurance and Fannie Mae, since you put cred to them in your "endorsers" list.
»→ CEO credentials
June 16, 2008 - 23:29 ET by Cool ArrowDon't know if Allstate would be interested in blaming Katrina on AGW, and as such, a Gvernment problem, do you?
And Fannie Mae? Let's ask Chris Dodd.
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<==+How about Coca Cola
June 16, 2008 - 23:45 ET by mastersofdeceitWhat's their angle? : )
»→ Coca-Cola
June 16, 2008 - 23:52 ET by Cool ArrowCoca-Cola needs some serious carbon tax breaks.
Like, carbonation = CO2. Like, DUHHH!
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Not a scientist
June 17, 2008 - 01:26 ET by ambyOne doesn't have to be a scientist to know the earth isn't flat. In your world only scientists get to speak? If you aren't a scientist, guess you need to be quiet. Under the signing rules of the Oregon Petition, I qualify as a scientist.
»→ Of course Amby
June 17, 2008 - 01:33 ET by Cool ArrowYou read abut BF Skinner last semester, so I guess you qualify.
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And I qualify as a
June 17, 2008 - 06:20 ET by NL207And I qualify as a Scientist under more stringent rules, even though I am not!
I should think some common sense would be enough to recognize just how broken this AGW alarmist argument really is. Human activities simply pale in comaprison with the forces of nature. A prime example is AGW. Do you know what the sun's radiative forcing actually is? It's about 1370 watts per square meter. And what is man's TOTAL contribution to global warming from CO2 emissions? Most "experts" calculate this at less than 1.75 watts per square meter. The sun is known to exhibit 0.05% decadal variation. Over the 30 years from 1970-2000 this was all up --> 0.15%. 0.15% of 1370 = 2.05! Solar "NOISE" has a stronger signal than mankind. What a surprise!
And then we have idiot bomb throwers like you and that muttonhead Al Gore scurrying about scaring people with end-of-the-world stories.
Ahhh!! A pre-prepared
June 16, 2008 - 23:09 ET by NL207Ahhh!! A pre-prepared piece! Impressive. An argument built entirely around character assassination but providing no defense of the AGW proposition.
You still haven't put up one ounce of defense to my impeachment of your opening broadside.
You lose. NL tacks another hide to the barn door.
LOL NL... That you
June 16, 2008 - 23:38 ET by bigtimerLOL NL...
That you did...and you did it with ease.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson
Not prepared
June 17, 2008 - 01:29 ET by ambyI actually looked this up on the fly. That's how much info on the Oregon Petition scam is actually out there. Take a look, it won't burn out your innocent little flat-earth, intelligent design, free-market eyes.
»→ Free market eyes
June 17, 2008 - 01:39 ET by Cool ArrowAmby, give me your car. You don't deserve it. And you need to continue the payments on it. I'm starting to think this "free market" stuff is for the birds too.
You obviously gave up nothing to procure it. Whatever deal yo mde for that car, I now declare void.
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Pre-prepared .... by
June 17, 2008 - 05:38 ET by NL207Pre-prepared .... by someone else! Not even your own words.
Amby if your Googling is this bad I wonder what else is too?
June 17, 2008 - 07:56 ET by PopularTechI already debunked you Wikipedia and smear site lies here.
The only thing I believe in out of your loaded statements is the free-market. I think you may want to wake up and realize that this is not some ultra right-wing, religious-conservative position to be skeptical of unproven science. Unlike you on the other hand I am open to discussions of intelligent design. But your baiting here shows your true bias and alterior motives.
The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource
Ah! Amby's Lies and Slander against OISM!
June 17, 2008 - 07:43 ET by PopularTechArt Robinson Responds to Petition Slander (OISM)
"Only one false name has ever appeared on the petition. It was put there by Ozone Action (now Greenpeace USA) and removed immediately thereafter.
Every listed signer has a university degree in science. The posted listing gives their highest degrees. (MDs were listed only if their underlying degrees were in science.) Thousands of physicists and chemists signed - including about 100 members of the National Academy, about 500 meteorologists and climate scientists, and numerous very eminent people in American science.
...only about 25 have asked to have their signatures removed.
For every signer we have a physical signature mailed to us by first class mail from the signer's address. No one has been listed who did not actually sign - except the Ozone Action signature, which they sent with false credentials, a false address, and a false signature.
The review article sent with the petition could not possibly have been mistaken for a PNAS reprint. I have published many research papers in PNAS. I am very familiar with reprint formats.
The PNAS claim originated because Frederick Seitz - past president of the National Academy and past president of Rockefeller University signed a letter that was circulated with the petition. (Dr. Seitz, like everyone else who has actively opposed the "enviro warmers" has been smeared with many false claims.) Also, the first signers of the petition were several rather famous members of the National Academy.
Neither I nor any of my colleagues at the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine have ever received any funds whatever from any energy industry corporation. The costs of the petition were born entirely by individual non tax deductible donations to a non tax deductible entity established solely for the petition. No energy industry funds were received."
Amby you are dishonest and a smear merchant. Why not learn the truth about Art Robinson Ph.D. Chemistry, instead of smearing him with your propaganda:
Art Robinson: A Scientist Finds Independence (American Spectator)
The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource
Energy industry money link
June 17, 2008 - 15:58 ET by ambyThe petition was released in conjunction with the Exxon-backed George C. Marshall Institute. The petition was so misleading it prompted the National Academy of Science to issue a news release stating that: "The petition project was a deliberate attempt to mislead scientists and to rally them in an attempt to undermine support for the Kyoto Protocol.”
Amby that is a lie and Propaganda
June 17, 2008 - 20:39 ET by PopularTechThe Petition was done by Dr. Art Robinson and the OISM.
Art Robinson Responds to Petition Slander (OISM)
"The review article sent with the petition could not possibly have been mistaken for a PNAS reprint. I have published many research papers in PNAS. I am very familiar with reprint formats.
The PNAS claim originated because Frederick Seitz - past president of the National Academy and past president of Rockefeller University signed a letter that was circulated with the petition. (Dr. Seitz, like everyone else who has actively opposed the "enviro warmers" has been smeared with many false claims.) Also, the first signers of the petition were several rather famous members of the National Academy.
Neither I nor any of my colleagues at the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine have ever received any funds whatever from any energy industry corporation. The costs of the petition were born entirely by individual non tax deductible donations to a non tax deductible entity established solely for the petition. No energy industry funds were received."
All you have left are lies and smears because there is no science to support your alarmist position.
The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource
CO2 Theory has gone South
June 16, 2008 - 21:56 ET by dboIn case you didn't notice amby, your CO2 theory has gone south along with "Doctored" Hansen's manipulated data.
http://icecap.us/ima...
Let's ignore your lengthy
June 16, 2008 - 22:27 ET by NL207Let's ignore your lengthy list of scare-mongering profiteers and look more closely at the claims you are making:
1) the climate is undergoing a pronounced warming trend beyond the range of natural variability;
This is BS. The range of natural variability is +5 / -10 degrees K over the present. proof .
2) the major cause of most of the observed warming is rising levels of the greenhouse gas CO2;
The major cause of the warming/cooling observed in the reference give above is variation in insolation of the upper atmosphere.
3) the rise in CO2 is the result of burning fossil fuels;
This is also not necessarily 100% true. CO2 levels have risen and fallen in prehistoric times as well in RESPONSE to changes in global temperature. proof.
4) if CO2 continues to rise over the next century, the warming will continue; and
Not necessarily. If insolation declines by 0.1%, CO2 increase will be negated. The actual range of insolation variation is in excess of 7.0%. Moreover, because of the effects of the Beer-lambert law, continued increases in CO2 will cause diminshing increases in IR absorption and consequently, diminishing increases in warming.
5) a climate change of the projected magnitude over this time frame represents potential danger to human welfare and the environment.
(a) the predictions are wrong. See here. Measurement has deviated BELOW the predictions for the century already.
(b) No one, not even the vaunted IPCC, has been able to show that warming in of itself is a threat to human life.
Care to debate? Or will you just scurry back under that rock you crawled out from under?
I see the twit has no stones
June 16, 2008 - 23:10 ET by NL207I see the twit has no stones for any real debate.
NL
June 16, 2008 - 23:29 ET by RESTLESS 15) a climate change of the projected magnitude over this time frame
represents potential danger to human welfare and the environment
I particularly love this argument from the Kool-Aid drinkers. There are definite problems with climate models, not the least of which is the model producers' inability to divorce themselves from their creations and admit the models' weaknesses.
"As atmospheric
scientist Kevin Trenberth has noted, ‘All models are of course wrong because, by design,
they depict a simplified view of the system being modeled’ (Trenberth, 1997)."- From the link
In the end, this is much ado about nothing, as the climate modelers can't be trusted.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Gee amby, I thought AGW came from wingnuts like you...
June 16, 2008 - 23:33 ET by CTrunning on and on. Why not do your part to save the planet from more CO2, try holding your breath for a very long time.
Carbon Credits Smoke'em if you got'em!
Cause of CO2
June 17, 2008 - 02:56 ET by ambyKeystokes don't cause CO2, but assholes do.
»→ CO2
June 17, 2008 - 03:28 ET by Cool ArrowYou've been monitoring bovine flatulence again?
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Actually keystokes do cause
June 17, 2008 - 04:16 ET by Jack BauerActually keystokes do cause CO2 -- though you do sound like a braindead zombie, so maybe you don't breath (like the rest of us) while partaking in the manual labour of typing.
Here's a suggestion. Do your bit in cutting down on the production of the colorless, odorless gas known as Carbon Dioxide (Dry Ice).
Stop breathing.
Unless he's using solar,
June 17, 2008 - 07:38 ET by danboUnless he's using solar, hydro, nuke or some other source to power his computer? Let's not forget the CO2 produced to power that computer.
He want's you do do as he says. Not as he does.
"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT
tell you what slick
June 16, 2008 - 23:43 ET by bigpapaI'll bet you 100 US dollars that in less than 3 years you are proven wrong.
Send me a message and we'll agree on the way to make the bet..
You will lose.. BTW how many of those people and organizations get money to "research" AGW?????
Let me know,, I await your response with anticipation...
Put up or shut up...
BP
June 17, 2008 - 00:12 ET by RESTLESS 1It may not take you that long to collect.
Actually, seeing as AGW alamism has been disproven, he may owe you already.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Bet?
June 17, 2008 - 03:01 ET by ambyIn 3 years 100 dollars may not be worth the paper it's printed on. How about betting your soul? Just because I'm in bed with the great devil shouldn't give you cause for concern.
If it isn't worth the paper
June 17, 2008 - 07:34 ET by danboIf it isn't worth the paper it's printed on. It's because you guys screwed it up.
I believe you are in bed with the devil. Your friends did this with DDT and how many people did that bad decision kill? 97 million? And you ignore it. How many more will you ruin and kill with the farce of AGWing?
"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT
It's never been proven
June 17, 2008 - 07:27 ET by danboIt's never been proven correct. (AGW) All they have are their claims of consensus. And science has never been about consensus.
I know of 1 paper claiming that there is a consensus. And it flunked my peer review. Whereas there at least 3 studies that indicate no such consensus.
There's way too many holes shot in AGW. I think you can collect now.
Is this the new Throatpecker, Professor Truth or other "science expert" of the day?
"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT
Amby,
June 17, 2008 - 00:21 ET by RESTLESS 1Not that I think you will slink back in here anytime soon, but here is a doozy of a link for you. It's from Inhoffe's site, and everything is linked to the source. Read them all and weep.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Not Inhofe
June 17, 2008 - 02:25 ET by ambyIf it is anything from Inhofe it's not worth the paper is is written on. Can't you find a credible source who hasn't impeached himself and embarrassed the senate with such incompetence.
Like I said,
June 17, 2008 - 11:47 ET by RESTLESS 1everything is linked, which is more than I can say for your nonsense.
"This liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
You're an ignorant buffoon.
June 17, 2008 - 04:10 ET by Jack BauerYou're an ignorant buffoon. Your opening paragraph is a farrago of half-baked junk science.
One example of your inane idiocy
I'd call you a half-wit, but that would be praise.
There is NO 'Consensus' on "Man-Made" Global Warming
June 18, 2008 - 11:52 ET by PopularTechThe following Scientists and Organizations Disagree with Al Gore:
31,000 Scientists Prove No 'Consensus’ on "Man-Made" Global Warming (OISM)
- Art Robinson Responds to Petition Slander (OISM)
- Qualifications of Signers (OISM)
4000 Scientists sign 'The Heidelberg Appeal' (Science & Environmental Policy Project)
1500 Scholars, Policy Experts and Theologians sign the 'Cornwall Declaration on Environmental Stewardship' (Cornwall Allliance)
500 Scientists with Documented Doubts of Man-Made Global Warming Scares (The Heartland Institute)
400 Scientists Dispute Man-Made Global Warming Claims (US Senate Committee on Environment & Public Works)
170 Scientists, Economists and Theologians sign an open letter to the signers of 'Climate Change: An Evangelical Call to Action' (Cownwall Alliance)
152 Climate Experts sign 'The Manhattan Declaration on Climate Change' (ICSC)
105 Scientists sign 'The Leipzig Declaration on Global Climate Change' (Science & Environmental Policy Project)
100 Scientists sign an 'Open Letter to the Secretary-General of the United Nations' (National Post, Canada)
60 Scientists call on Harper to revisit the science of global warming (Financial Post, Canada)
47 Scientists sign the 'Statement by Atmospheric Scientists on Greenhouse Warming' (Science & Environmental Policy Project)
41 Scientists debunk global warming alert (The Daily Telegraph, UK)
35 Skeptical Scientists, 'The Deniers' (National Post, Canada)
Inconvenient Fact: ...only 51 individuals signed the IPCC Report released on February 2, 2007 (Institute for Canadian Values)
Skeptical Scientists:
"The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane"
- Marcus Aurelius, Roman Emperor
A. Alan Moghissi, Ph.D. Physical Chemistry, Technical University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Aksel Wiin-Nielsen, Professor of Geophysical Science, University of Copenhagen, Denmark
Albrecht Glatzle, Ph.D. Agricultural Biology, University of Hohenheim, Germany
Alexander Gumen, M.S. Hydrogeology and Engineering Geology, Ph.D. Geology, Moscow Geological Prospecting Academy, Russia
Alfred (Al) H. Pekarek, Ph.D. Geology, Associate Professor of Geology, St. Cloud State University, USA
Allan M.R. MacRae, B.Sc., M.Eng., P.Eng, Canada
Andreas Prokoph, B.Sc. Geology, Ph.D. Earth Sciences, University Tubingen, Germany
Anthony R. Lupo, Ph.D. Atmospheric Science, Purdue University, USA
Antonino Zichichi, Professor Emeritus of Advanced Physics, University of Bologna, Italy
Arthur B. Robinson, Ph.D. Chemistry, University of California, San Diego, USA
Arthur Rorsch, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Molecular Genetics, Leiden University, The Netherlands
Ben Herman, Ph.D. Atmospheric Sciences, University of Arizona, USA
Benjamin D. Pearson, B.S. Physics, University of Rochester, USA
Bjarne Andresen, Ph. D. Theoretical Chemistry, University of Copenhagen, Denmark
Bob Durrenberger, Retired Climatologist, Former President of the American Association of State Climatologists, USA
Boris Winterhalter, M.Sc. Ph.D. Geology, Helsinki University, Finland
Brian Pratt, Ph.D. Professor of Geology, Sedimentology, University of Saskatchewan, Canada
Bruce N. Ames, Ph.D. BioChemistry, California Institute of Technology, USA
Bruno Wiskel, B.Sc. Geology, University of Albert, Canada
Bryan Leyland, M.Sc. Electrical and Mechanical Engineering, New Zealand
Carl Johan Friedrich (Frits) Böttcher, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Physical Chemistry, University of Leiden, The Netherlands
Charles Gelman, B.S. Chemistry, M.S. Public Health, University of Michigan, USA
Chauncey Starr, Ph.D. Physics, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, USA
Chris de Freitas, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Geography and Environmental Science, University of Auckland, New Zealand
Christiaan Frans van Sumere, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Biochemistry, University of Gent, Belgium
Christoph C. Borel, Ph.D. Electrical and Computer Engineering, University of Massachusetts, USA
Christopher Essex, Ph.D. Professor of Applied Mathematics, University of Western Ontario, Canada
Christopher Landsea, Ph.D. Atmospheric Science, Colorado State University, USA
Claude Allegre, Ph.D. Physics, University of Paris, France
Cliff Ollier, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Geology, University of Western Australia, Australia
Clinton H. Sheehan, Ph.D. Physics, University of Western Ontario, Canada
Craig D. Idso, M.S. Agronomy, Ph.D. Geography, Arizona State University, USA
Craig Loehle, Ph.D. Mathematical Ecology, Colorado State University, USA
Dan Carruthers, M.Sc. Wildlife Biology Consultant, Specializing in Animal Ecology in Arctic and Subarctic Regions, Canada
Daniel B. Botkin, Ph.D. Biology, Rutgers University, USA
David Deming, B.S. Geology, Ph.D. Geophysics, University of Utah, USA
David E. Wojick, B.S. Civil Engineering, Ph.D. Mathematical Logic, University of Pittsburgh, USA
David Evans, B.Sc. Applied Mathematics and Physics, M.S. Statistics, Ph.D. Electrical Engineering, Stanford, USA
David G. Aubrey, B.S. Geological Sciences, Ph.D. Oceanography, University of California at San Diego, USA
David H. Douglass, Ph.D. Physics, MIT, USA
David J. Ameling, B.A. Physics, UCLA, USA
David J. Bellamy, B.Sc. Botany, Ph.D. Ecology, Durham University, UK
David Kear, Ph.D. Geology, New Zealand
David L. Hill, Ph.D. Physics, Princeton University, USA
David Nowell, M.Sc. Meteorology, Royal Meteorological Society, Canada
David R. Legates, Ph.D. Climatology, University of Delaware, USA
Dennis P. Lettenmaier, Ph.D. Professor of Hydrology, University of Washington, USA
Dick Thoenes, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Chemical Engineering, Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands
Don J. Easterbrook, Ph.D. Geology, University of Washington, USA
Don Parkes, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Geography, University of Newcastle, Australia
Donald G. Baker, Ph.D. Soils, Geology, University of Minnesota, USA
Donn Dears, B.S. Engineering, U.S. Merchant Marine Academy, USA
Douglas V. Hoyt, Solar Physicist and Climatologist, Retired, Raytheon, USA
Duncan Wingham, Ph.D. Physics, University of Bath, UK
Eckhard Grimmel, Ph.D. Geography, University of Hamburg, Germany
Edward Wegman, Ph.D. Mathematical Statistics, University of Iowa, USA
Eigil Friis-Christensen, Ph.D. Geophysics, University of Copenhagen, Denmark
Elliot Abrams, M.S. Meteorology, Penn State, USA
Eric S. Posmentier, Adjunct Professor of Earth Sciences, Dartmouth, USA
Ernst-Georg Beck, M.Sc. Biology, Merian-Schule, Germany
Fred Goldberg, Ph.D. Mechanical Engineering, Royal Institute of Technology, Sweden
Fred Michel, B.Sc. Geological Sciences, M.Sc., Ph.D. Earth Sciences, University of Waterloo, Canada
Fred W. Decker, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Atmospheric Sciences, Oregon State University, USA
Freeman Dyson, Professor Emeritus of Physics, Princeton University, USA
G. Cornelis van Kooten, B.Sc. Geophysics, Ph.D. Agricultural & Resource Economics, Oregon State University, USA
Gabriel T. Csanady, Ph.D. Mechanical Engineering, University of New South Wales, Australia
Garth Paltridge, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus, Institute of Antarctic and Southern Ocean Studies, University of Tasmania, Australia
Gary D. Sharp, Ph.D. Marine Biology, University of California, USA
Gary Novak, M.S. Microbiology, USA
Geoff L. Austin, Ph.D. Professor of Physics, University of Auckland, New Zealand
George E. McVehil, B.A. Physics, M.S. Ph.D. Meteorology, AMS Certified Consulting Meteorologist, USA
George H. Taylor, M.S. Meteorology, University of Utah, USA
George Kukla, Micropalentologist, Special Research Scientist of Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory, Columbia University, USA
George V. Chilingarian, Ph.D. Geology, University of Southern California, USA
George Wilhelm Stroke, Ph.D. Physics, University of Paris, France
Gerd-Rainer Weber, Ph.D. Consulting Meteorologist, Germany
Gerhard Gerlich, Ph.D. Physics, Technical University of Braunschweig, Germany
Gerrit J. van der Lingen, Ph.D. Geologist, Paleoclimatologist, New Zealand
Glen E. Shaw, Atmospheric Scientist, Professor of Physics, University of Alaska, USA
Gordon E. Swaters, Ph.D. Applied Mathematics and Physical Oceanography, University of British Columbia, Canada
Gordon J. Fulks, Ph.D. Physics, University of Chicago, USA
Graham Smith, Associate Professor of Geography, University of Western Ontario, Canada
H. Grant (H.G.) Goodell, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Environmental Sciences, University of Virginia, USA
H. Michael (Mike) Mogil, M.S. Meteorology, Florida State University, USA
Hans Erren, B.Sc. Geology and Physics, M.Sc. Geophysics, Utrecht University, The Netherlands
Hans Jelbring, Ph.D. Climatology, Stockholm University, Sweden
Hans Schreuder, Analytical Chemist, UK
Harry N.A. Priem, Professor Emeritus of Isotope and Planetary Geology, Utrecht University, The Netherlands
Hartwig Volz, Geophysicist, RWE Research Lab, Germany
Hendrik Tennekes, Former Director of Research, Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute, The Netherlands
Henrik Svensmark, Director of the Center for Sun-Climate Research, Danish National Space Center, Denmark
Henry R. Linden, Ph.D. Chemical Engineering, Illinois Institute of Technology, USA
Howard C. Hayden, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Physics, University of Connecticut, USA
Hugh W. Ellsaesser, Ph.D. Meteorology, Formerly with Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, USA
Ian D. Clark, Ph.D. Professor of Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa, Canada
Ian R. Plimer, Ph.D. Professor of Geology, University of Adelaide, Australia
Indur M. Goklany, Ph.D. Electrical Engineering, Indian Institute of Technology, India
J. Scott Armstrong, B.A. Applied Science, B.S. Industrial Engineering, Ph.D. MIT, USA
Jack Barrett, Ph.D. Physical Chemistry, Manchester, UK
James A. Peden, B.S. Physics and Mathematics, M.S. Experimental Physics, University of Pittsburgh, USA
James (Jim) Goodridge, Retired California State Climatologist, USA
James J. O’Brien, Ph.D. Meteorology, Texas A&M University, USA
James R. Stalker, Ph.D. Atmospheric Science, University of Alabama, USA
Ján Veizer, Professor Emeritus of Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa, Canada
Jay H. Lehr, Ph.D. Groundwater Hydrology, University of Arizona, USA
Jasper Kirkby, Particle Physicist at CERN the European Organization for Nuclear Research, Switzerland
Jeffrey A. Glassman, Ph.D. Applied Physicist and Engineer, USA
Jens Olaf Pepke Pedersen, Senior Scientist, Center for Sun-Climate Research, Danish National Space Center, Denmark
Jennifer Marohasy, Ph.D. Biology, University of Queensland, Australia
Joel M. Kauffman, Ph.D. Organic Chemistry, MIT, USA
Joel Schwartz, B.S. Chemistry, M.S. Planetary Science, California Institute of Technology, USA
John Brignell, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus, Department of Electronics & Computer Science, University of Southampton, UK
John E. Gaynor, M.S. Meteorology, UCLA, USA
John E. Oliphant, B.A. Mathematics and Physics, M.S. Meteorology Penn State, USA
John K. Sutherland, Ph.D. Geology, University of Manchester, UK
John R. Christy, B.A. Mathematics, M.S. Ph.D. Professor of Atmospheric Sciences, University of Alabama in Huntsville, USA
Joseph Conklin, M.S. Meteorology, Rutgers University, USA
Joseph D’Aleo, M.S. Meteorology, University of Wisconsin, USA
Joseph (Joe) P. Sobel, Ph.D. Meteorology, Penn State, USA
Keith D. Hage, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Meteorology, University of Alberta, Canada
Keith E. Idso, Ph.D. Botany, Arizona State University, USA
Kelvin Kemm, Ph.D. Nuclear Physics, Natal University, South Africa
Ken Gregory, B.A.Sc. Mechanical Engineering, University of British Columbia, Canada
Kenneth E.F. Watt, Ph.D. Zoology, University of Chicago, USA
Khabibullo Abdusamatov, Ph.D. Astrophysicist, University of Leningrad, Russia
Klaus Wyrtki, Ph.D. Oceanography, Physics, Mathematics, University of Kiel, Germany
Lance Endersbee, Professor Emeritus of Engineering, Monash University, Australia
Lee C. Gerhard, Ph.D. Geology, University of Kansas, USA
Lee Raymond, Ph.D. Chemical Engineering, University of Minnesota, USA
Len Walker, Ph.D. Soil Mechanics, Cambridge University, Australia
Louis Hissink, M.Sc. Geology, Macquarie University, Australia
Luboš Motl, Ph.D. Theoretical Physics, Rutgers, USA
Madhav Khandekar, B.Sc. Mathematics and Physics, M.Sc. Statistics, Ph.D. Meteorology, Florida State University, USA
Martin Livermore, B.S. Chemistry, University of Oxford, UK
Manik Talwani, Ph.D. Physics, Columbia University, USA
Marcel Leroux, Professor Emeritus of Climatology, University of Lyon, France
Mark P. Mills, B.S. Physics, Queen’s University, Canada
Martin Hertzberg, Ph.D. Physical Chemistry, Stanford, USA
Mel Goldstein, Ph.D. Meteorology, NYU, USA
Michael Crichton, A.B. Anthropology, M.D. Harvard, USA
Michael D. Griffin, B.S. Physics, M.S. Applied Physics, Ph.D. Aerospace Engineering, University of Maryland, USA
Michael E Adams, Ph.D. Meteorology, Lyndon State College, USA
Michael J. Economides, Ph.D. Professor of Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering, University of Houston, USA
Michael J. Oard, B.S., M.S. Atmospheric Science, University of Washington, USA
Michael Savage, B.S. Biology, M.S. Anthropology, M.S. Ethnobotany, Ph.D. Nutritional Ethnomedicine, USA
Michael R. Fox, Ph.D. Physical Chemistry, University of Washington, USA
Michel Salomon, M.D. University of Paris, Director, International Centre for Scientific Ecology, France
Nathan Paldor, Ph.D. Professor of Dynamical Meteorology and Physical Oceanography, Hebrew University, Israel
Noah E. Robinson, Ph.D. Chemistry, California Institute of Technology, USA
Neil Frank, Ph.D. Meteorology, Florida State University, USA
Nigel Marsh, Senior Scientist, Center for Sun-Climate Research, Danish National Space Center, Denmark
Nils-Axel Mörner, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Palegeophysics and Geodynamics, Stockholm University, Sweden
Nir J. Shaviv, Ph.D. Astrophysicist, Israel Institute of Technology, Israel
Norman Brown, Professor Emeritus of Chemistry, University of Ulster, UK
Ola M. Johannessen, Professor, Nansen Environmental and Remote Sensing Center, Norway
Olavi Kärner, Ph.D. Atmospheric Physics, Leningrad Hydrometeorological Institute, Estonia
Oliver W. Frauenfeld, Ph.D. Environmental Sciences, University of Virginia, USA
Paavo Siitam, M.Sc. Agronomist, Canada
Paul Copper, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Earth Sciences, Laurentian University, Canada
Paul Driessen, B.A. Geology and Field Ecology, Lawrence University, USA
Paul Reiter, D.Phil Professor of Medical Entomology, Pasteur Institute, France
Patrick Frank, Ph.D. Chemistry, Stanford University, USA
Patrick J. Michaels, Ph.D. Ecological Climatology, University of Wisconsin-Madison, USA
Patrick Moore, B.Sc. Forest Biology, Ph.D. Ecology, University of British Columbia, Greenpeace co-founder, Canada
Peter Stilbs, Ph.D. (TeknD) Physical Chemistry, Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden
Peter W. Huber, Ph.D. Mechanical Engineering, MIT, USA
Petr Chylek, Ph.D. Physics, University of California, USA
Philip K. Chapman, B.S. Physics and Mathematics, M.S. Aeronautics and Astronautics, Ph.D. Instrumentation, MIT, Australia
Philip Stott, Professor Emeritus of Biogeography, University of London, UK
Piers Corbyn, B.Sc. Physics, M.Sc. Astrophysics, Queen Mary College, UK
R.G. Roper, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Atmospheric Sciences, Georgia Institute of Technology, USA
R. Timothy (Tim) Patterson, B.Sc. Biology, Ph.D. Professor of Geology, Carleton University, Canada
R.
W. Gauldie, Ph.D. Research Professor, Hawaii Institute of Geophysics
and Planetology, School of Ocean Earth Sciences and Technology,
University of Hawaii, USA
Raphael A.J. Wust, M.Sc., Ph.D. Lecturer, School of Earth Sciences, James Cook University, Australia
Ralf D. Tscheuschner, Ph.D. Physics, University of Hamburg, Germany
Randall Cerveny, Ph.D. Geography, University of Nebraska, USA
Richard C. Willson, Ph.D. Atmospheric Sciences, University of California Los Angeles, USA
Richard S. Courtney, Ph.D. Geography, The Ohio State University, USA
Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT, USA
Rob Scagel, M.Sc., Forest Microclimate Specialist, Canada
Robert C. Balling Jr., Ph.D. Professor of Climatology, Arizona State University, USA
Robert C. Whitten, Physicist, Retired Research Scientist, NASA, USA
Robert E. Davis, B.S. Meteorology, Ph.D. Climatology, University of Delaware, USA
Robert G. Williscroft, B.Sc. Marine & Atmospheric Physics, M.Sc., Ph.D. Engineering, California Coast University, USA
Robert Giegengack, Ph.D. Geology, Yale, USA
Robert H. Essenhigh, M.S. Natural Sciences, Ph.D. Chemical Engineering, University of Sheffield, UK
Robert L. Kovach, Professor of Geophysics, Stanford University, USA
Robert (Bob) M. Carter, B.Sc. Geology, Ph.D. Paleontology, University of Cambridge, Australia
Robin Vaughan, Ph.D. Physics, Nottingham University, UK
Roger A. Pielke (Sr.), Ph.D. Meteorology, Penn State, USA
Roger Bate, M.Sc. Environmental and Resource Management, Ph.D. Economics, University of Cambridge, UK
Roy Spencer, Ph.D. Meteorology, Former Senior Scientist for Climate Studies, NASA, USA
S. Fred Singer, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Environmental Sciences, University of Virginia, USA
Sallie Baliunas, M.A. Ph.D. Astrophysics, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, USA
Sherwood B. Idso, Ph.D. Soil Science, University of Minnesota, USA
Simon C. Brassell, B.Sc. Chemistry & Geology, Ph.D. Organic Geochemistry, University of Bristol, UK
Sonja Boehmer-Christiansen, Ph.D. Department of Geography, University of Hull, UK
Steve Milloy, B.A. Natural Sciences, M.S. Health Sciences, Johns Hopkins University, USA
Stephen McIntyre, B.Sc. Mathematics, University of Toronto, Canada
Stewart W. Franks, Ph.D. Environmental Science, Lancaster University, U.K.
Sylvan H. Wittwer, Ph.D. Horticulture, University of Missouri, USA
Syun-Ichi Akasofu, Ph.D. Geophysics, University of Alaska, USA
Tad S. Murty, Ph.D. Oceanography and Meteorology, University of Chicago, USA
Thomas Schmidlin, Ph.D. Professor of Geography, Kent State University, USA
Timothy (Tim) F. Ball, Ph.D. Historical Climatologist, University of London, UK
Tom Harris, B. Eng. M. Eng. Mechanical Engineering (thermo-fluids), Canada
Tom V. Segalstad, Ph.D. Professor of Environmental Geology, University of Oslo, Norway
Ulrich Berner, Geologist, Federal Institute for Geosciences, Germany
Vern Harnapp, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Geography, University of Akron, USA
Vincent Gray, Ph.D. Physical Chemistry, Cambridge University, UK
Vitaliy Rusov, Ph.D. Physics and Mathematics, Professor of Physics, Odessa Polytechnic University, Ukraine
Yuri A. Izrael, D.Sc. Physics and Mathematics, Vice Chairman, Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, Russia
W. Dennis Clark, Ph.D. Botany, Sacramento State College, USA
Walter Starck, Ph.D. Marine Science, University of Miami, USA
Warren Meyer, B.S. Mechanical Engineering, Princeton University, USA
Warwick Hughes, B.S. Geology, Auckland University, Australia
Wibjorn Karlen, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Physical Geography and Quaternary Geology, Stockholm University, Sweden
Willem de Lange, Ph.D. Senior Lecturer, Department of Earth and Ocean Sciences, Waikato University, New Zealand
William B. Hubbard, Ph.D. Professor of Planetary Atmospheres, University of Arizona, USA
William (Bill) Bauman, B.S., Meteorology, M.S., Ph.D. Atmospheric Sciences, North Carolina State University, USA
William Cotton, M.S. Atmospheric Science, Ph.D. Meteorology, Pennsylvania State University, USA
William E. Reifsnyder, B.S. Meteorology, M.S., Ph.D. Forestry, Yale, USA
William
J.R. Alexander, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus, Department of Civil and
Biosystems Engineering, University of Pretoria, South Africa
William M. Briggs, B.S. Meteorology and Math, M.S. Atmospheric Science, Ph.D. Statistics, Cornell University, USA
William (Bill) M. Gray, M.S. Meteorology, Ph.D. Geophysical Sciences, University of Chicago, USA
Willie Soon, Ph.D. Astrophysicist, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, USA
Wm. Robert Johnston, B.A. Astronomy, M.S. Physics, University of Texas, USA
Wolfgang Thüne, Ph.D. Geography, University of Wuerzburg, Germany
Zachary W. Robinson, B.S. Chemistry, Oregon State University, USA
Zbigniew Jaworowski, M.D., Ph.D., D.Sc., Central Laboratory for Radiological Protection, Poland
Meteorologists:
"Scientists that study the earth's atmosphere, climate, and weather" - Wordsmyth
A.J. Colby, B.S. Atmospheric Sciences, AMS Certified, Meteorologist WKYC-TV, USA
Andre Bernier, B.S. Meteorology, Lyndon State College, Meteorologist WJW-TV, USA
Anthony Watts, AMS Certified, Chief Meteorologist KPAY-AM, USA
Arlo Gambell, AMS Certified, Meteorologist, USA
Art Horn, B.S. Meteorology, Lyndon State College, Meteorologist WVIT-TV, USA
Arthur T. Safford III, Retired Meteorologist USAF, USA
Asmunn Moene, former Chief Meteorologist, Oslo, Norway
Austin W. Hogan, AMS Certified, Meteorologist, USA
Bill Meck, Chief Meteorologist WLEX-TV, USA
Bill Steffen, Meteorologist WOOD-TV, USA
Bob Breck, B.S. Meteorology & Oceanography, University of Michigan, Chief Meteorologist WVUE-TV, USA
Brad Sussman, Meteorologist, USA
Brian Sussman, Meteorologist, USA
Bruce Boe, Director of Meteorology Weather Modification Inc., USA
Bruce Schwoegler, B.S. Meteorology, University of Wisconsin-Madison, USA
Christopher Plonka, Meteorologist USAF, USA
Craig James, B.S. Meteorology, Penn State University, Chief Meteorologist WOOD-TV, USA
Dan Maly, Retired Meteorologist WOIO-TV, USA
David Aldrich, B.S. Meteorology, North Carolina State University, Meteorologist WTXF-TV, USA
Dick Goddard, Chief Meteorologist WJW-TV, USA
Don Webster, Retired Meteorologist WEWS-TV, USA
Douglas Leahey, Meteorologist, Canada
Eugenio Hackbart, Chief Meteorologist MetSul Meteorologia Weather Center, Brazil
Grant Dade, Meteorologist KLTV, USA
Herb Stevens, Meteorologist WNYT-TV, USA
James Spann, AMS Certified, Chief Meteorologist WCFT-TV, WJSU-TV, USA
Jason Russell, Meteorologist, WTEN-TV, USA
Jeff Halblaub, B.S. Atmospheric Science, Ohio State University, Meteorologist, USA
Jerry Lettre, Senior Meteorologist, WSI, USA
Jim Clarke, B.S. Meteorology, St. Louis University, Meteorologist WZVN-TV, USA
Joe Bastardi, B.S. Meteorology, Penn State, Expert Senior Forecaster AccuWeather, USA
John Coleman, Meteorologist, Founder of 'The Weather Channel', Chief Meteorologist KUSI-TV, USA
Jon Loufman, Meteorologist WOIO-TV, USA
Joseph E. Luisi, Former Chief Meteorologist Delta Airlines, USA
Justin Berk, B.S. Meteorology, Cornell University, AMS Certified, Meteorologist WMAR-TV, USA
Karl Bohnak, B.S. Meteorology, University of Wisconsin, AMS Certified, Meteorologist WLUC-TV, USA
Kevin Lemanowicz, B.S. Meteorology, Cornell University, Chief Meteorologist WFXT-TV, USA
Kevin Williams, B.S. Meteorology, Cornell University, Chief Meteorologist WHEC-TV, USA
Keith Eichner, Meteorologist WIVB-TV, USA
Lee Eddington, Meteorologist Geophysics Branch, U.S. Naval Air Warfare Center Weapons Division, USA
Mark Koontz, Meteorologist WFMJ-TV, USA
Mark Breen, B.S. Meteorology, Lyndon State College, Senior Meteorologist Fairbanks Museum and Planetarium, USA
Mark Johnson, AMS Certified, Chief Meteorologist, WEWS-TV, USA
Mark Scirto, B.S. Meteorology, University of St. Thomas, AMS Certified, Chief Meteorologist KLTV, USA
Morgan Palmer, AMS Certified, Meteorologist KLTV, USA
Nick Morganelli, Free-Lance Meteorologist, USA
Paul Cousins, B.S. Meteorology and Geophysics, AMS and NWA Certified, Founder AtmosForecast, USA
Peter McGurk, Senior Meteorologist, WSI, USA
Randy Baker, B.S. Atmospheric Science, University of Kansas, Senior Meteorologist UPS Airlines, USA
Randy Mann, AMS Certified, Meteorologist KREM-TV, USA
Richard (Rich) Apuzzo, Chief Meteorologist Skyeye Weather, USA
Roy Leep, B.S. Meteorology, Florida State University, Meteorologist WTVT-TV, USA
Sally Bernier, B.S. Meteorology, Lyndon State College, Meteorologist WJW-TV, USA
Shane Hollett, Meteorologist WMJI-FM, USA
Steven Nogueira, NWS Senior Meteorologist, USA
Terry Eliasen, B.S. Meteorology, University of Massachusetts Lowell, Meteorologist WBZ-TV, USA
Thomas B. Gray, M.S. Meteorology, USAF, USA
Tim Kelley, B.S. Meteorology, Lyndon State College, Meteorologist NECN, USA
Tom Chisholm, B.S. Atmospheric Sciences, Lyndon State College, Chief Meteorologist WMTW-TV, USA
William Kininmonth, B.Sc., M.Sc., Retired Head of the Australian National Climate Centre, Australia
Social Scientists:
"The assessment of regional environmental and social impacts is a multidisciplinary task that involves natural and social scientists working in tandem with policy makers." - American Meteorological Society
Alan Moran, Ph.D. Economics, Director of the IPA's Deregulation Unit, Australia
Alex Robson, Ph.D. Economics, University of California, Irvine, USA
Alister McFarquhar, Ph.D. Economics, Downing College, UK
Andrei Illarionov, Ph.D. Economics, St. Petersburg University, Russia
Benny Peiser, Ph.D. Professor of Social Anthropology, Liverpool John Moores University, UK
Bjørn Lomborg, M.A., Ph.D. Political Science, University of Copenhagen, Denmark
Daniel K. Benjamin, Ph.D. Economics, University of California at Los Angeles, USA
Daniel R. Simmons, B.A. Economics, Utah State University, USA
David A. Ridenour, B.A. Political Science, University of Oregon, USA
David Almasi, B.A. Political Science, Northwestern University, USA
Dennis T. Avery, M.S. Agricultural Economics, University of Wisconsin-Madison, USA
Don Aitkin, Ph.D. Political Science, Australian National University, Australia
Frank Milne, Ph.D. Professor of Economics, Queen's University, Canada
George F. Will, Ph.D. Political Science, Princeton University, USA
Ian Castles, BCom Commerce, Former Vice President of the Academy of the Social Sciences, Australia
James Inhofe, B.A. Economics, University of Tulsa, USA
Jerry Taylor, B.A. Political Science, University of Iowa, USA
John J. Ray, Ph.D. Psychology, Macquarie University, Mensa, Sydney, Australia
John Stossel, B.A. Psychology, Princeton University, USA
Julian Morris M.A. Economics, M.Sc. Environment and Resource Economics, M.Phil. Land Economics, Cambridge University, UK
Kendra Okonski, B.A. Economics, Hillsdale College, USA
Kesten C. Green, Ph.D. Management Science, Victoria University of Wellington, New Zealand
Marlo Lewis, B.A. Political Science, Ph.D., Claremont McKenna College, USA
Margo Thorning, Ph.D. Economics, University of Georgia, USA
Myron Ebell, M.Sc. Economics, London School of Economics, USA
Nigel Lawson, Baron Lawson of Blaby, B.A. Economics, University of Oxford, UK
Randy T. Simmons, Ph.D. Political Science, University of Oregon, USA
Richard W. Rahn, Ph.D. Business Economics, Columbia University, USA
Robert Bradley, B.A. Economics, Ph.D. Political Economy, University of Houston, USA
Robert Higgs, Ph.D. Economics, Johns Hopkins University, USA
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Ross McKitrick, M.A., Ph.D. Economics, University of British Columbia, Canada
Roy E. Cordato, M.A. Ph.D. Economics, George Mason University, USA
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Terry L. Anderson, Ph.D. Economics, University of Washington, USA
Thomas A. Birkland, Ph.D. Political Science, University of Washington, USA
Thomas Gale Moore, M.A., Ph.D. Economics, University of Chicago, USA
Thomas Sowell, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Economics, UCLA, USA
Vaclav Klaus, app. Ph.D. Economics, University of Economics, Prague, Czech Republic
William Evans, Ph.D. Professor of Economics, Notre Dame, USA
William Nordhaus, Ph.D. Economics, MIT, USA
Deceased:
"Some of this noise won't stop until some of these scientists are dead" - James Hansen, 2006
Aaron Wildavsky, Ph.D. Political Science, Yale, USA (Died: September 4, 1993)
Adrian H. Gordon, Meteorologist, University of South Australia, Australia (Died: April 12, 2000)
August H. Auer Jr., Professor Emeritus of Atmospheric Science, University of Wyoming, USA (Died: June 10, 2007)
Duwayne M. Anderson, Professor Emeritus of Geology, Texas A&M University, USA (Died: October 4, 2002)
Frederick Seitz, Ph.D. Physics, Princeton University, USA (Died: March 2, 2008)
George H. Sutton, Professor Emeritus of Geophysics, University of Hawaii, USA (Died: January 25, 2004)
Heinz Lettau, Professor Emeritus of Geophysics, University of Wisconsin, USA (Died: August 4, 2005)
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James P. Lodge Jr., Ph.D. Consultant in Atmospheric Chemistry, USA (Died: December 14, 2001)
John L. Daly, B.Sc.Econ Economics, Aberystwyth University, UK (Died: January 29, 2004)
John R. Apel, Ph.D. Physics, Johns Hopkins University, USA (Died: August 16, 2001)
Julian Simon, B.A. Psychology, Ph.D. Economics, University of Chicago, USA (Died: February 8, 1998)
Larry H. Brace, B.S. Physics, University of Michigan, USA (Died: August 28, 2005)
Michael J. Higatsberger, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Experimental Physics, University of Vienna, Austria (Died: January 7, 2004)
Paul Handler, Professor Emeritus of Physics, University of Illinois, USA (Died: January 24, 1998)
Reid A. Bryson, B.A. Geology, Ph.D. Meteorology, University of Chicago, USA (Died: June 11, 2008)
Rhodes Fairbridge, Ph.D. Geology, University of Western Australia, Australia (Died: November 8, 2006)
Robert E. Stevenson, Ph.D. Oceanography, University of Southern California, USA (Died: August 12, 2001)
Robert Jastrow, Ph.D. Theoretical Physics, Columbia University, USA (Died: February 8, 2008)
Roland (R.A.D.) Byron-Scott, Senior Lecturer Emeritus in Meteorology at Flinders University, Australia (Died: January, 2004)
Thomas Gold, Professor Emeritus of Astronomy, Cornell University, USA (Died: June 22, 2004)
Tor Ragnar Gerholm, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Physics, University of Stockholm, Sweden (Died: June 27, 2007)
William (Bill) A. Nierenberg, Ph.D. Physics, Columbia University, USA (Died: September 10, 2000)
William Mitchell, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Physics, University of Oxford, UK (Died: October 30, 2002)
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The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource
Scientific Academies' "Position Statements" are a farce
June 17, 2008 - 06:57 ET by PopularTech"...we often hear how the National Academy of Sciences (NAS) and the American Meteorological Society (AMS) have issued statements endorsing the so-called "consensus" view that man is driving global warming. But what you don't hear is that both the NAS and AMS never allowed member scientists to vote on these climate statements. Essentially, only two dozen or so members on the governing boards of these institutions produced the "consensus" statements. It appears that the governing boards of these organizations buckled to pressure from those promoting the politically correct view of UN and Gore-inspired science." - James Inhofe, B.A. Economics
AGU Climate Consensus Statement: 9 Speak for 50,000? (The Politics and Environment Blog)
"The AGU Board issued a statement on climate change without putting it to a vote of the group's more than 50,000 members. Its sweeping claims, drafted by nine committee members, rely heavily on long term computer model projections, cherry-picking of data and a one-sided view of recent research. As with the recent statements by the AMS and the NAS, this is the product of a small circle of scientists who all share the same point of view, and who failed to put their statement to a vote of the AGU members on whose behalf they now claim to speak. As such it amounts to nothing more than a restatement of the opinion of a small group, rather than a consensus document."
The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource
Amby's Global Warming Propaganda
June 17, 2008 - 07:21 ET by PopularTech"1) the climate is undergoing a pronounced warming trend beyond the range of natural variability;"
This is a lie, not only can you not prove this statement there is overwhelming evidence that the current climate conditions are NOT unusual:
Medieval Warm Period Project (CO2 Science)
"Was there a Medieval Warm Period? YES, according to data published by 532 individual scientists from 325 separate research institutions in 38 different countries ... and counting!"
2) the major cause of most of the observed warming is rising levels of the greenhouse gas CO2;
Another lie and you cannot prove this statement either. There is no evidence without using bogus computer models to reach this conclusion. While there is extensive evidence that the Sun in the major driver of climate:
The persistent role of the Sun in climate forcing (The Danish National Space Center)
"...over the past 20 years the solar cycle remains fully apparent in variations both of tropospheric air temperature and of ocean subsurface water temperature. [...]
When the response of the climate system to the solar cycle is apparent in the troposphere and ocean, but not in the global surface temperature, one can only wonder about the quality of the surface temperature record. For whatever reason, it is a poor guide to Sun-driven physical processes that are still plainly persistent in the climate system. [...]
...one cannot distinguish between the effects of anthropogenic gases such as carbon dioxide and of natural greenhouse gases. For example, increased evaporation means that infrared radiation from water vapor, by far the most important greenhouse gas, will tend to provide positive feedback for any global warming, ... In any case, the most recent global temperature trend is close to zero. [...]
The continuing rapid increase in carbon dioxide concentrations during the past 10-15 years has apparently been unable to overrule the °attening of the temperature trend as a result of the Sun settling at a high, but no longer increasing, level of magnetic activity. Contrary to the argument of Lockwood and FrÄohlich, the Sun still appears to be the main forcing agent in global climate change."
CO2 has NEVER driven climate in the past, it actually LAGS temperature changes:
Carbon Dioxide Did Not End The Last Ice Age, Study Says (Science Daily)
CO2 & temperature: ice core correlations (Luboš Motl, Ph.D. Theoretical Physicist)
"The temperatures and carbon dioxide concentrations have been correlated but we know for sure that the temperature was the cause and the concentration was its consequence, not the other way around. If you look carefully at the graphs, you will see that the carbon dioxide concentrations lag behind the temperature by 800 years."
Ice core records of atmospheric CO2 around the last three glacial terminations
(Science, Vol. 283. no. 5408, pp. 1712 - 1714, 12 March 1999)
- Hubertus Fischer, Martin Wahlen, Jesse Smith, Derek Mastroianni, Bruce Deck
Southern Hemisphere and Deep-Sea Warming Led Deglacial Atmospheric CO2 Rise and Tropical Warming
(Science, September 27, 2007)
- Lowell Stott, Axel Timmermann, Robert Thunell
The phase relations among atmospheric CO2 content, temperature and global ice volume over the past 420 ka
(Quaternary Science Reviews, Volume 20, Issue 4, Pages 583-589, February 2001)
- Manfred Mudelsee
Timing of Atmospheric CO2 and Antarctic Temperature Changes Across Termination III
(Science 14, Vol. 299. no. 5613, March 2003)
- Nicolas Caillon, Jeffrey P. Severinghaus, Jean Jouzel, Jean-Marc Barnola, Jiancheng Kang, Volodya Y. Lipenkov
"The sequence of events during Termination III suggests that the CO2 increase lagged Antarctic deglacial warming by 800 ± 200 years and preceded the Northern Hemisphere deglaciation."
"3) the rise in CO2 is the result of burning fossil fuels;"
Possibly but the rise is insignificant and NOT harmful:
- Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is a minor greenhouse gas.
- Carbon Dioxide (CO2) levels in the atmosphere have risen by about 30% (280-370 ppmv) over the past 100 years. (IPCC)
- Ice core records show Carbon Dioxide (CO2) levels lag behind Temperature changes by 600-1000 years. (Source) (Source)
- Carbon Dioxide (CO2) did not end the last Ice Age. (Source)
- Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is only about 0.038% of the atmosphere. (NASA)
- Carbon Dioxide accounts for about 4.2-8.4% of the greenhouse effect. (Source) (Source)
- Humans can only claim responsibility for 3.4% of the Carbon Dioxide (CO2) emitted to the atmosphere annually. (Source)
- Humans can only claim responsibility for 0.28% of the greenhouse effect. (Source)
- Water Vapor + Clouds account for 90-95% of the greenhouse effect. (Source) (NASA)
- U.S. Carbon Emissions Fell 1.3% in 2006. (Source)
CO2 is actually beneficial for plant growth:
Carbon Dioxide Helps Some Plants Survive Cold Weather, Cornell Researchers Find (Science Daily)
Climate Changes Creating Green And Flowering Mountains (Science Daily)
Climate change will boost farm output (The Australian)
Delay In Autumn Color Caused By Increased Carbon Dioxide Not Global Warming (Science Daily)
- Forests Could Benefit When Fall Color Comes Late (Science Daily)
Duke Study Shows Carbon Dioxide Boosts Pine Tree Reproduction (Science Daily)
Elevated Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide Increases Soil Carbon (Science Daily)
Elevated Carbon Dioxide Changes Soil Microbe Mix Below Plants, May Help Plants Grow (Science Daily)
Greenhouse Gas Might Green Up The Desert (Science Daily)
High Carbon Dioxide Levels Spur Southern Pines To Grow More Needles (Science Daily)
High On Carbon Dioxide, Crops Of Tomorrow May Yield More Grain (Science Daily)
Increasing Carbon Dioxide Relieves Drought Stress In Corn, Researchers Say (Science Daily)
More Carbon Dioxide May Help Some Trees Weather Ice Storms (Science Daily)
New Satellite Study Shows Vegetation Increases In North America (Science Daily)
Open-Air Experiment Shows High CO2 Boosts Tree Growth (Science Daily)
Report: High Carbon Dioxide Boosts Duke Forest Growth By 25 Percent (Science Daily)
Some Plankton Thrive With More CO2 (The New York Times)
Study Shows Forests Thrive With Increased Carbon Dioxide Levels (Science Daily)
And CO2 is NOT Pollution:
"CO2 for different people has different attractions. After all, what is it? - it’s not a pollutant, it’s a product of every living creature’s breathing, it’s the product of all plant respiration, it is essential for plant life and photosynthesis, it’s a product of all industrial burning, it’s a product of driving – I mean, if you ever wanted a leverage point to control everything from exhalation to driving, this would be a dream. So it has a kind of fundamental attractiveness to bureaucratic mentality." - Richard S. Lindzen Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology MIT
- Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is a natural part of Earth's Atmosphere (NASA)
- Carbon Dioxide (CO2) levels in the atmosphere have risen from 280 to 380 ppm over the past 100 years (IPCC)
- Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is not toxic until 5% (50,000ppm) concentration (Source)
- Any detrimental effects of Carbon Dioxide (CO2) including chronic exposure to 3% (30,000ppm) are reversible (Source)
- OSHA, NIOSH, and ACGIH occupational exposure standards are 0.5% (5,000 ppm) Carbon Dioxide (CO2) (Source)
The Kyoto Protocol is a treaty to regulate 'Greenhouse Gases' only:
- Carbon dioxide (CO2)
- Methane (CH4)
- Nitrous oxide (N2O) (Laughing Gas, Nitrous, NOS)
- Hydrofluorocarbons (HFCs)
- Perfluorocarbons (PFCs)
- Sulphur hexafluoride (SF6)
Car Exhaust consists of:
Harmless:
- Carbon dioxide (CO2)
- Nitrogen (N2)
- Water vapor (H2O)
Some Pollutants:
- Carbon monoxide (CO) *
- Hydrocarbons or Volatile Organic Compounds (VOCs) *
- Nitric oxide (NO) *
- Nitrogen dioxide (NO2) *
- Particulate matter (PM-10) *
- Sulfur dioxide (SO2) *
* Your car's Catalytic Converter removes about 95% of these pollutants by converting them to Water and Carbon Dioxide (CO2)
Smog consists of:
- Ozone (O3) * (formed from the photochemical reaction of Nitrogen dioxide (NO2) + Hydrocarbons)
- Particulate matter (PM-10) *
- Sulfur dioxide (SO2) *
* Air Pollution is already regulated in the: 1970 Clean Air Act (Amended: 1977, 1990)
"4) if CO2 continues to rise over the next century, the warming will continue;"
Another lie, increased CO2 has a logarithmic effect on temperatures, increased CO2 will have less and less effect on temperatures:
Cold Facts on Global Warming (Image Analysis and Measurement Lab)
"What is the contribution of anthropogenic carbon dioxide to global warming? This question has been the subject of many heated arguments, and a great deal of hysteria. ...we will consider a simple calculation, based on well-accepted facts, that shows that the expected global temperature increase caused by doubling atmospheric carbon dioxide levels is bounded by an upper limit of 1.4-2.7 degrees centigrade. This result contrasts with the results of the IPCC's climate models, whose projections are shown to be unrealistically high. [...] At the current rate of increase, CO2 will not double its current level until 2255."
"5) a climate change of the projected magnitude over this time frame represents potential danger to human welfare and the environment."
Another fabrication. What projected magnitude? Ones based on worthless climate models that only computer illiterates believe because they do not know any better. You really are an alarmist, here watch this video you may learn something:
20/20: Give Me a Break: Global Warming (YouTube Video) (8min)
The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource
Watch Amby Ignore It All
June 17, 2008 - 21:03 ET by Free StinkerWatch Amby Ignore It All !
PopTech: 40
Amby: 0
"Don't forget to vote this fall. Not for McCain, not ever, but there might be a Conservative Rep or Senator that Needs Your Vote" --Free Stinker
Wow, Perfesser Twaddle, you sure have been busy...
June 17, 2008 - 21:11 ET by R D Helm...since you got your plug pulled, I mean. :-)
The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz
"You'll remember this is
June 16, 2008 - 20:30 ET by jdhawk"You'll remember this is where John Edwards made his big endorsement of Barack Obama, now Al Gore."
Two losers endorse a stupid tout with the same tired failed programs that liberals have been foisting on the American public since before WWII.
Another non-event.
June 16, 2008 - 20:42 ET by Clear thinkerAnother non-event. (yawn)
"Abstain from McCain"
Exactly Ct... Gore was
June 16, 2008 - 20:50 ET by bigtimerExactly Ct...
Gore was just spewing more of his hot air...what a gas bag he is.
Contributing to the the cause...as usual.
Carbon foot-print don't ya' know.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson
bt... Understanding that
June 16, 2008 - 21:00 ET by Clear thinkerbt...
Understanding that I am from a totally different mindset than some, for the life of me I cannot understand why people would care about an Al Bore slap on the back.
Al Bore is a non-entity in my world.
"Abstain from McCain"
Ct... Well I agree...so
June 16, 2008 - 21:06 ET by bigtimerCt...
Well I agree...so is Johnnie Pretty Boy Edwards...the difference is I fear algore getting a position like head of the EPA or Energy Dept., bad enough what he as done behind the scenes with this taxes on all of us in Congress if he gets any of this GW BS through in different forms....along with quite few in Silicon Valley and elsewhere...
Oh what is happening to this country is spooky.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson
If Obama is smart, he'll
June 16, 2008 - 21:11 ET by Clear thinkerIf Obama is smart, he'll put Al in charge of the Department of Indoctrination.
"Abstain from McCain"
Failed programs
June 17, 2008 - 03:05 ET by ambyTwo losers with the same failed programs? Have you checked out our current administration? Categorically, the worst in history.
»→ Worst in history
June 17, 2008 - 03:31 ET by Cool ArrowAsk your momma about Jimmy Carter.
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Gore's return to leftist
June 16, 2008 - 20:39 ET by bigtimerGore's return to leftist politics...hell the POS has never left...he also has been working behind the scenes with Obama I just heard, no surprise to me...
I just listened to his clap-trap of a speech...I loved how he honored McCain for his past service and his agreement with the be all know all money grubbing scam artist algore and his global warming scheme..it was just precious.
Pathetic.
..."Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson
So if barack is savior of
June 16, 2008 - 20:43 ET by MidAmericaSo if barack is savior of the nation and will heal it's soul and gore is the savior of the planet which one outranks the other? Or are they like two members of a Super-Heroes confederation sent here by Gaiya to stop the evil-doers?
Well sound the trumpets,
June 16, 2008 - 20:48 ET by HypocriteHaterWell sound the trumpets, the Great Goracle has blessed us with his endorsement!! Can I go back to sleep now?
How convenient of him to give the endorsement AFTER Hillary is officially out. Don't want to burn any bridges, do ya Al?
"Return to electoral
June 16, 2008 - 20:59 ET by Schnikeys"Return to electoral politics"
It's interesting how they use these unnecessarily dressed-up terms to give the viewer the impression that they're saying "We've got some serious sh*t to do, we don't have time to focus on something as sophomoric as an 'endorsement' when we've got a someone's return to electoral politics to deal with!" I mean, what were they reporting about, again? Al Gore endorsing someone? They could have said "Al Gore endorsed so-and-so today, yada yada yada."
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"It could be the answer to our age-old, philosophical question, 'Why are we here?' PLASTIC!"
Algore is a certifiable lunatic.
June 16, 2008 - 21:02 ET by CTThe more exposure this crackpot gets the more obvious it will become. That's when Barry will try to throw him under the bus.
Carbon Credits Smoke'em if you got'em!
Name calling
June 17, 2008 - 02:31 ET by ambyAlgore, Al Bore, Goracle. An you guys get bent out of shape when I call Noel "Sheepdog". Guess it is only suppose to go one way, huh?
Isn't it nice that Ann
June 16, 2008 - 21:07 ET by charlietexasIsn't it nice that Ann copped a feel from AL......whoopie. What really make me mad and offened as a Republican and a conservative is AL comparing Obama to JFK. Barry is a 180 from JFK and I wish they would stop. But the liberal sheep just love the comparison. JFK and RFK are turning over in their graves watching whats happened to the Democrat party. Tax and spend and hand out and appeasers, America haters, baby killers. Unbelievable......mom
So Gore waits for everything
June 16, 2008 - 21:24 ET by BruzillaSo Gore waits for everything to be decided before coming out in support of Obama. It's bold leadership like that that cost him the election.
Just a thought to ponder...
June 16, 2008 - 21:31 ET by CTWhat kind of mindset is required to think we would have been better off if Al Gore had been president on 911? You know that thinking is out there, maybe even your neighbor. Scary isn't it.
NOBAMA!!!
Gee, Mr Algore needing
June 16, 2008 - 21:38 ET by motherbeltGee, Mr Algore needing another little boost to keep himself in news?
I guess he's not getting quite the mileage (pun intended) any more out of the old AGW thing....
Return to politics?!?!?!
June 16, 2008 - 22:19 ET by ToddonCapeCodThat's all the global warming/climate change movement is about: a political agenda!
Right on comment.
June 16, 2008 - 22:27 ET by ScrapironMidAmerica, as they say, you hit the nail on the head. They can find years of cooling but they can't find the warming. What was that 'thousands of robots floating around in the ocean prove years of cooling'. Whoever wasted so much time on the 'believers list' left off the list of thousands of experts who disagree. But then as we know, disagreement is not allowed by the left. Their phony gods told them what to believe and they will fight to keep the belief, well they won't fight for anything, but they'll die of old age while hiding under the bed in mom-ma's basement. If we die from an overheated earth it be because God looked down and thought, what a waste, where did all those liberal idiots come from.
Old, Retired and glad of it.
Beefy
June 16, 2008 - 22:41 ET by JohanLooks like Al is getting even a bit more beefy. Too many rich foods on that Gulfstream of his probably.
I think we NB members owe Mr. Baker an engraved apology.
June 16, 2008 - 23:39 ET by R D HelmMr. Baker, I, on behalf of my long-time NB friends, sincerely and profusely apologize for boogering up your excellent thread in such an inconsiderate manner.
Next time, we will all be sure and booger up only Noel's threads. :-)
The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz
»→ Where's the Silver Surfer?
June 16, 2008 - 23:45 ET by Cool ArrowRemember, the Silver Surfer was "Herald to Galactus"?
If Al Gore is going to gobble up this planet, does that mean Obama is the Silver Surfer?
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Too bad Al Gore was such a
June 16, 2008 - 23:53 ET by mastersofdeceitToo bad Al Gore was such a failure at "electoral politics"
Nothing so brave as to wait until Hillary was out to give his endorsement of The Wooden One.
»→ Wooden One
June 16, 2008 - 23:57 ET by Cool ArrowWould that be Pinocchio?
When he lies, his ears grow.
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If a tree falls on a manbearpig crapping in the woods ...
June 17, 2008 - 08:05 ET by CrashAl Gore is the biggest baby this country has had since the fool Jimmy Carter. Today they both bask in the limelight of loathing the country which rejects their idiotic notions. When he isn't whining about losing an election, he's complaining about the weather. As it turns out weather "changes" ... Obama was right (he must be the chosen one). Were I Obama, I'd put him in the closet along with all his typical whiney people.
Al Gore: Global Warming Alarmist, Profiteer and Obama Supporter
June 17, 2008 - 07:59 ET by PopularTechAl Gore only has a B.A. in Government (no science degree)
The Education of Al Gore (The Washington Times)
Hypocrite:
Al Gore and Global Warming - Is He a Hypocrite? (Video) (10min)
Al Gore's Gulfstream (Video) (7min)
Al Gore, Environmentalist and Zinc Miner (The Wall Street Journal)
- Environmentalist Gore allowed zinc mine (USA Today)
- From Al to Zinc: Mine Story Shows How a Fatherly Favor Haunts Gore (The Wall Street Journal)
Al Gore, polluter? (WorldNetDaily)
Al Gore Refuses to Take Personal Energy Ethics Pledge (US Senate Environment & Public Works Committee)
Al Gore: Occidental Petroleum Connections (The Wall Street Journal)
Al Gore: The Other Oil Candidate (CorpWatch)
Al Gore's Inconvenient Stock Portfolio Exposed (PR Newswire)
Al Gore's Inconvenient Toxic Waste Dump (NewsMax)
Bush's Ranch House 'Far More Eco-Friendly' Than Gore's (CNSNews)
- George W. Bush's eco-friendly ranch compared to Al Gore's energy-expending mansion = True (Snopes)
Eco-warrior Al Gore serves up endangered fish at daughter's party (Daily Mail, UK)
Gore home's energy use: 20 times average (WorldNetDaily)
- Al Gore's residence uses considerably more energy than the average American home = True (Snopes)
Gore isn't quite as green as he's led the world to believe (USA Today)
Gore's Oil Money (The Nation)
Hypocrite Gore Should Practice What He Preaches (The Tech, MIT)
Integrity in the Balance: Al Gore's Record On the Environment (CorpWatch)
Meet the real Al Gore (WorldNetDaily)
Old-Growth Timber used to Rebuild the Veranda of the Vice Presidential Mansion (Newsweek)
Whose Ox Is Gored? The Former Vice President's Environmental Exaggerations and Hypocrisy (The Wall Street Journal)
Al Gore Pushes 'Pollution Tax' (NewsMax)
Profiteering:
Al Gore Gets Rich ($100 Million) After White House (ABC News)
Al Gore is criticised for lining his own pockets after £3,300 ($6,757) per-minute green speech (Daily Mail, UK)
Al Gore, Maurice Strong: Creators of carbon credit scheme cashing in on it (Canada Free Press)
Gore's 'carbon offsets' paid to firm he owns (WorldNetDaily)
Gore Cashing in on $6 Trillion Energy Business (NewsMax)
Gore makes sustainable investment his business (The Age, Australia)
Gore to Rake in IPO Millions (NewsMax)
Gore Warns on 'Subprime Carbon' Industry (NewsMax)
Global Warming, Inc. (The Wall Street Journal)
Green firm Camco gets Blood and Gore investment (Reuters)
The Money and Connections Behind Al Gore’s Carbon Crusade (Human Events)
Will Not Debate:
Czech President Klaus ready to debate Gore on climate change (The Earth Times)
Dennis T. Avery Challenges Al Gore to a Debate (The Heartland Institute)
Lord Christopher Monckton Challenges Al Gore to a Debate (Center for Science and Public Policy)
Ivy League Professor Bets Al Gore $10,000 He’s Wrong About Global Warming (NewsBusters)
Why Won’t Al Gore Debate? (The Heartland Institute)
Will Al Gore Melt? If not, why did he chicken out on an interview? (The Wall Street Journal)
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