In the midst of media hype for “insider” Scott McClellan's attacks on the Bush White House, ABC's Martha Raddatz and CBS's Katie Couric prompted a revelation from McClellan that undermines the presumption he's any kind of partisan Republican or conservative ideologue. They asked a question NBC's Meredith Vieira did not in two lengthy live segments on Thursday's Today show: Will he vote for John McCain? He told both Raddatz and Courtic that he's “intrigued by Senator Obama's message,” also confirming to Couric that he's no conservative as he praised John McCain as “someone who has certainly governed from the center, and that's where I come from.” So why not vote for him over the left-wing Obama? But Couric wondered: “There's some feeling this will tarnish the candidacy of John McCain. Do you support John McCain?” McClellan conceded: “I haven't made a decision....”
On ABC's World News, Raddatz touted the ambivalence as a “change” though McClellan's self-identification as a centrist may suggest otherwise: “To show how truly big a change McClellan's made, he's even considering voting for a Democrat.” After he told her “I'm intrigued by Senator Obama's message,” she followed up: “So you haven't made up your mind about a candidate, which means you haven't decided whether you'll vote Democratic or Republican?” McClellan demurred: “I haven't made any decision.”
Couric's most loaded question:
Do you feel any sense of guilt that the Iraq war, which you helped sell to the American people, has resulted in the loss of life for thousands of American soldiers?
McClellan's admission makes more understandable his choice of a publisher. My Wednesday night NewsBusters posting, “McClellan's Publisher a Liberal: Advances Soros & Slams Limbaugh,” detailed how McClellan went with a liberal publisher with ties to Bush-haters.
The online version of Couric's interview highlighted McClellan's voting orientation, “McClellan: I'm 'Intrigued' By Obama; Ex-WH Press Secretary Tells CBS News Obama's Message Is Like Bush's in 2000.” (The posted transcript does not match what was aired, see below.)
ABCNews.com posted the online version of the Raddatz session with McClellan under a headline that does not touch on his political views, “McClellan: I Became What I Wanted to Change; ABC's Martha Raddatz Interviews Former White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan.”
The relevant portions of the interviews aired Thursday night, May 29:
From ABC's World News:
MARTHA RADDATZ: To show how truly big a change McClellan's made, he's even considering voting for a Democrat.SCOTT McCLELLAN: I'm intrigued by Senator Obama's message.
RADDATZ TO McCLELLAN: So you haven't made up your mind about a candidate, which means you haven't decided whether you'll vote Democratic or Republican?
McCLELLAN: I haven't made any decision.
From the CBS Evening News:
COURIC: There's some feeling this will tarnish the candidacy of John McCain. Do you support John McCain?
McCLELLAN: I haven't made a decision. I have a lot of admiration and respect for Senator McCain. He is someone who has certainly governed from the center, and that's where I come from. I also am intrigued by Senator Obama's message. It's a message that is very similar to the one that Governor Bush ran on in 2000.
—Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center





COURIC: There's some feeling this will tarnish the candidacy of John McCain. Do you support John McCain?
















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This says it
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 19:18 ET by bigtimerThis says it all...
'Nuff said.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
Yep, bigtimer. Liberals are
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 19:26 ET by NewsbusterbrownYep, bigtimer. Liberals are going to have a hard time using the "hey, he's a conservative and even he knows that Bush is evil incarnate" line. Looks like Scotty was really a liberal in disguise at the White House.
“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
Nbb...Yeah, you know
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 19:39 ET by bigtimerNbb...
Yeah, you know when all of this came out the other day, I got to thinking back when the stink in the press was starting about his book the first time months ago now and he or his publishers came out and said the reports weren't true, he wasn't disparaging the Pres. or whatever the heck the flap was about back then, so it was all laid to rest then....nevertheless I was thinking I wonder if this is also another way to poke a stick in the Presidents eye with his non-support of his mom when she ran in Texas last election, changed from 'R' to Independent, was running between Kinky Friedman and Perry and Bush supported Perry...I do remember the anger that was reported here in there about him not supporting her...
I wonder if the whole danged family for the most part aren't just moles for the leftists like Soros, ~ can't help it...you never know politically.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
McClellan, A Wolf in Sheeps Clothing?
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 20:37 ET by allanfI thought McClellan monumenally ineffective as Press Secretary because he was incompetent. The truth may well be that he was a wolf in sheeps clothing who actually did not believe in the policies it was his job to defend.
That's an even bigger shame.
This says it all.. It
Fri, 05/30/2008 - 05:39 ET by motherbeltThis says it all..
It sure does. What a surprise.
I guess McClellan is "intrigued" by a guy who talks about "unity" from the far left flank.
A Question
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 19:41 ET by the curatorMr. Baker,
You concluded the following line proves Mr. McClellan is no conservative...
he praised John McCain as “someone who has certainly governed from the center, and that's where I come from.”
I'd ask why? Can't a conservative also be a moderate? Do you not think moderate conservatives are conservatives at all? Or, do you only believe conservative should apply to the farthers right-wing of the party?
"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building."
-George W. Bush, October 11, 2000
cur... I know you weren't
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 19:54 ET by bigtimercur...
I know you weren't talking to me, but what do you mean Mr. Baker concluded with the following lines to prove McClellan is no conservative...he quoted McClellan there...how do you even come to the conclusion you presented Mr. Baker?
Nobody is making conclusions here, Mr. Baker just was reporting words said by Mr. McClellan..you have inserted a conclusion Mr. Baker didn't state...
Btw though, even if he did he' be right, now wouldn't he?
Just my two cents...
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
Actually...
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 20:01 ET by the curatorActually, he leads into a quote with an opinion...
also confirming to Couric that he's no conservative as he praised John McCain as “someone who has certainly governed from the center, and that's where I come from.”
Notice, Mr. McClellan's quote doesn't begin until "someone who has certainly..."
The statement immediately previous is Mr. Baker's opinion... confirming to Couric that he's no conservative....
So, he's leading with an opinion into the quote.
Here's the full exchange...
COURIC: There's some feeling this will tarnish the candidacy of John McCain. Do you support John McCain?
McCLELLAN: I haven't made a decision. I have a lot of admiration and respect for Senator McCain. He is someone who has certainly governed from the center, and that's where I come from.
No where in there does Mr. McClellan say "I'm not a conservative."
Those were Mr. Baker's words, an opinion derived from Mr. McClellan's praise of Sen. McCain.
even if he did he' be right, now wouldn't he?
Which goes back to my original question... why do you think a moderate is not a conservative? Is 'conservative' you keep exclusive to the right-wing of the party?
"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building."
-George W. Bush, October 11, 2000
So he's leading into an
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 20:06 ET by bigtimerSo he's leading into an opinion...
How in the hell is that a conclusion as you stated?
You know, I have been through BS with you before, not going to wreck my night with the likes of you...I knew I would be sorry for even posting to you.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
It's a simple concept.
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 20:09 ET by the curatorIt's a simple concept. What is in quotes... is what he's quoting. What's previous (NOT in quotes) is an opinion.
G'night.
"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building."
-George W. Bush, October 11, 2000
cur... Once again how is
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 20:15 ET by bigtimercur...
Once again how is this a CONCLUSION as you stated?
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
OK
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 20:26 ET by the curatorOK, I'll try... and, honestly, big... I'm not trying to be rude at all. I like civil discourse.
Mr. McClellan says of Sen. McCain, "someone who has certainly governed from the center, and that's where I come from."
Mr. Baker refers to that statement as "praise."
he praised John McCain as “someone who has certainly governed from the center, and that's where I come from.”
Mr. Baker - literally, just before those words in his above blog - says Mr. McClellan is no conservative because of that statement. In full, this is what Mr. Baker wrote.
confirming to Couric that he's no conservative as he praised John McCain as “someone who has certainly governed from the center, and that's where I come from.”
Confirming to Couric.... Right there, Mr. Baker is making a conclusion, opinion, whatever you'd like to express it as. He believes Mr. McClellan is not a conservative... that belief is based on his (McClellan's) praise of Sen. McCain.
I hope that helped clarify what I was trying to say.
"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building."
-George W. Bush, October 11, 2000
....ROFLMAO! "Never
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 20:37 ET by bigtimer....ROFLMAO!
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
curator
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 22:44 ET by balboaEXACTLY. Baker is playing fast and loose with quotes, drawing conclusions for McClellan.
"No where in there does Mr.
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 22:26 ET by mikej"No where in there does Mr. McClellan say "I'm not a conservative."
He may not have said it outright but when he said he was seriously considering voting for the candidate that is farther to the left the Ted Kennedy that pretty much wraps it up. But the other candidate he's interested in doesn't hold true conservative principles.
Unlike liberals, conservatives look at the issues first then decide while the liberals look at whether or not someone is a Democrat first, then base their decision off of that.
Do you not think moderate
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 20:00 ET by NewsbusterbrownDo you not think moderate conservatives are conservatives at all?
Uh, Obama is not a John Breaux. Breaux's voting record was right down the middle. Obama is the most liberal in the Senate. IOW, supporting Barack makes you a liberal. Therefore, McClellan is a liberal.
“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
No exceptions?
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 20:05 ET by the curatorObama is the most liberal in the Senate. IOW, supporting Barack makes you a liberal
Doesn't being a 'moderate' mean you have opinions from both sides of the aisle? Where does it say we always have to vote for only the people on our party? Can we not vote across the aisle without losing our political party identity? I'd like to think so.
"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building."
-George W. Bush, October 11, 2000
Curator
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 22:42 ET by RESTLESS 1You're confusing the terms democrat and republican with liberal and conservative. I would much rather vote for a conservative democrat than a liberal republican. If he is supporting obama, there is no way around it, he is liberal, as obama has not one conservative position.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Doesn't being a 'moderate'
Fri, 05/30/2008 - 06:59 ET by NewsbusterbrownDoesn't being a 'moderate' mean you have opinions from both sides of the aisle?
If McClellan was a true moderate, then McCain would be the guy to vote for, since his voting record is much closer to the middle than Obama, right?
“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
Conservatives for Obama and other oxymorons
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 20:29 ET by ThermistoclesDid you miss the part about him liking some of Obama's ideas? This guy has the most liberal record in the Senate. He is a flaming socialist. I realize the whole left, center, right paradigm is a spectrum but anyone considering voting for someone that liberal could hardly be considered a conservative.
Conservative is usually defined as less government, lower taxes, personal responsibility, free market, democracy ( as opposed to judicial fiat ) and traditional values.
Beware, there is a vast right-wing conspiracy out to get all Democrats. Don't believe me, just ask Hillary.
Here's what this really says
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 19:55 ET by sarcasmoHe wins no matter which party's candidate wins. Just like I lose.
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
Hey sarc... Couldn't
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 20:00 ET by bigtimerHey sarc...
Couldn't agree more.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
Yeah...
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 20:03 ET by sarcasmoCount me moderately jealous. It must be nice, if he honestly feels that way. I sure never could...
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
Me neither sarc...not at
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 20:09 ET by bigtimerMe neither sarc...not at all.
....EVER!
I can't even imagine living that way.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
I agree. Just a matter of
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 20:05 ET by NewsbusterbrownI agree. Just a matter of the level of pain inflicted upon us.
“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
I can't hardly believe my eyes
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 19:55 ET by doug1950A moderate and a conservative are two different things by sheer definition. To try and mix the two is incongruous. It is more than simply a label. Too many try to ride the fence or become one of the ever present 10-15% that do not know or can't decide, but they often do not want to appear to be "too anything". They are what is referred to in the Bible as "lukewarm" and should be spewed out (like lukewarm coffee). I have more respect for a died in the wool liberal who is firm in their beliefs (albeit wrong as hell) than someone who can't make a damn decision or tries to ride the fence.
doug... YOU said it
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 20:01 ET by bigtimerdoug...
YOU said it all!!!
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
Clear Answer
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 20:08 ET by the curatorPoint made, doug... and very clear at that.
I would argue about "lukewarms" being "spewed out." At least in a political sense, not Biblical.
After all, aren't the moderates, undecideds (or 'lukewarms') the ones that decide every presidential election?
"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building."
-George W. Bush, October 11, 2000
Clarification
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 20:37 ET by doug1950Lukewarm = no conviction, applies in both cases equally
Thanks for
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 20:39 ET by the curatorThanks for the folo.
But, again, I wouldn't say 'moderate' means 'no convictions.'
I'm a moderate and I believe I very strong, guiding convictions in my life.
Voting across the aisle (to me) just shows you don't think one side is right all the time. Conservative or liberal.
Because seriously, no one is right all the time.
But, I appreciate your opinion.
"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building."
-George W. Bush, October 11, 2000
Liberal Logic
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 20:36 ET by ThermistoclesIt only makes sense if you abandon all logic. Then all things are possible because words are organic and definitions evolve. Wonderful things like 4 sided triangles, round sqares, liberal conservatives and conservative centrists begin to appear before your very eyes.
Reminds me of a conversation I had at one time where I was told that only whites could be racist.
I really believe
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 20:17 ET by MidAmericaI really believe McClellan is in fact a 'centrist'. He doesn't strike me as a person with enough cajones or 'processing power' to take a stand on his own. He stuck with Bush for many years and then just switched sides. No principles. Just a wanabe.
IMO
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 22:43 ET by DEVILDOCMOMhe could not make a living in the outside world and turned on his mentor.
"Which goes back to my
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 20:27 ET by ckc1227"Which goes back to my original question... why do you think a moderate is not a conservative?"
Uhhh, because a moderate is a moderate? If moderates were conservatives, we'd call them conservatives.
So you don't think someone
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 20:31 ET by the curatorSo you don't think someone could reasonably be called a moderate republican? Or "just right or center?" (same lables would apply for the left of course)
"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building."
-George W. Bush, October 11, 2000
Kind of like being a little
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 20:41 ET by doug1950Kind of like being a little pregnant. You either is or you ain't. Or better yet....like trying to determine beauty amongst pigs. A pig is a pig no matter how much eye shadow and lipstick you smear on it.
I see where you're coming
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 20:46 ET by the curatorI see where you're coming from on this one. You see it as an "all or nothing" school of thought. I follow you.
"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building."
-George W. Bush, October 11, 2000
At least for me
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 20:57 ET by doug1950the major problem I have with most moderates is they make many of the important decisions based on emotions, not logic. As a military person we learned not to make decisions through emotions, it will get you killed graveyard dead. There is a sense of distrust because you never know which way the person is going to fall or which side they will land on. It invaribly seems to be on the winning side regardless of the subject. Everyone likes to be on a winning side or team but not for all the wrong reasons. Another observation is some people are easily intimidated and do not like to make waves and follows the crowd. The old go along to get along type. I tend to be a little more, kick in the door and start kicking some butt and taking names but leave my pencil in the truck. When it comes time to make a decision it is time. No waffling, no endless discussions.
I agree with a lot of what
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 21:43 ET by the curatorI agree with a lot of what you're saying. Especially about people who don't want to make waves.
The only thing I'd question is equating military-style decision making with other issues.
I admire the school of thought, I just think military decision making is subject to circumstances that don't necessarily apply to oridinary things (i.e., financial decisions aren't immediate life and death matters).
Although I completely respect your point of view on the matter, I just think there are some differences there than need to be adhered to.
"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building."
-George W. Bush, October 11, 2000
Well, decisions are easier
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 22:27 ET by ThermistoclesWell, decisions are easier to make in most situations if you have well formed convictions. Integrity and trust go hand in hand with this as well. I think this is more to the point with respect to the discussion of moderates. They certainly give the impression of not having strong convictions and wanting to play both sides.
GW Bush is a moderate
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 21:07 ET by ThermistoclesGW Bush is a moderate Republican.
His biggest plus has been his appointments to the bench. Good, solid, honest judges.
His biggest minus has been his spending, big government programs and weak immigration policy.
Wow Scott, how courageous
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 20:38 ET by SvenWow Scott, how courageous of you to come out against the Bush Presidency!...NOT!!
What a gutless scoop of Vanilla Ice Cream!
I have a lot of admiration
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 20:41 ET by fitzfongI have a lot of admiration and respect for Senator McCain.
And I'm sure that's worth a lot to McCain. McClellan's respect, admiration and about $4.00 can maybe even buy McCain a gallon of gas...well not in California, but you get the idea.
"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Reagan
Nice new tag, fitz
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 21:20 ET by BlondeOh, how I miss RR.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Now We Know!
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 21:17 ET by ChasvsSo now we know just how F*cking stupid this limp dick really is.
If anyone is intrigued by BHO, then it just shows they haven't got a brain. ( Or a spine as in this asshole's case)
Run scotty run to the loving arms of the Left! Once they are done with you they'll be calling you a turn coat and coward, and I can't wait!
I smell a television talk show
Thu, 05/29/2008 - 22:51 ET by jefflebowskifor Mr. McClelland! Since he's bashing Bush, he may end up getting Miss Stephanopholousolueousls' job.