The night after ABC's World News raised the possibility John McCain's POW ordeal caused “psychological damage,” on Friday's CBS Evening News Dr. Sanjay Gupta thought it noteworthy that the release of McCain's medical records ignored the Senator's “mental health,” any “mention of post-traumatic stress disorder” or of “substance abuse.” Oddly, Dr. Jon LaPook asserted that “people” notice McCain is “not able to raise his arm” and think “'doesn't that look funny?'” Who thinks McCain's limitation, caused by an attack on him after his plane crashed in North Vietnam and he was denied medical care, looks funny? In what circles does CBS's doctor travel? [audio available here]
From Fountain Hills, Arizona, CNN's Gupta, identified by Katie Couric as “a CBS News contributor” and on-screen as “contributing medical correspondent,“ marveled:
What I didn't see I thought was interesting, as well. There was hardly any mention of his mental health. There was no mention of depression. You know, this is man who had two admittedly weak suicide attempts when he was a prisoner of war. There was no mention of post-traumatic stress disorder or anything that may have been asked, or substance abuse, none of that was even mentioned.
LaPook, from the anchor desk, checked in: “And people think, well, he's not able to raise his arm and 'doesn't that look funny?' Well, you know something, we should all remember that one of the greatest Presidents ever was in a wheelchair.” That set up Couric to raise a subject not touched by ABC or NBC, how little the public knew at the time about the afflictions of FDR and President Kennedy. Gupta marveled: “It's amazing to think about that now. John F. Kennedy, the youngest President ever elected, was probably one of the sickest yet nobody knew that at the time.”
LaPook diagnosed McCain as healthy enough to run for President:
Knowing what I know, if he came to me as a patient, from what his doctors have said and from what I've seen in the records, and said, "should I run for President?", I'd say go for it, go ahead, because at the end of the day, as we get older, things are going to happen. You're going to have cancer developing potentially, you're going to have high blood and high cholesterol weighing in and maybe increasing of a chance of a heart attack or stroke. But at the same time, as you get older other good things happen like wisdom and experience. And I think you're always balancing the two of those things.My May 22 NewsBusters posting, “ABC: McCain Psychologically Damaged? Suffer Dementia? Die Soon?” recounted:
From the Friday, May 23 CBS Evening News, picking up after Gupta provided a rundown of McCain's health issues, such as cholesterol and his skin cancer treatments:Not waiting until the actual Friday release of John McCain's medical records, on Thursday's World News anchor Charles Gibson (who's 65) and Dr. Tim Johnson (who at 72 is older than McCain) speculated about McCain's health. Gibson wondered about "psychological damage" from his POW captivity. Assured there's no evidence of that, Gibson jumped to wonder how much longer McCain has to live, a question which led Johnson to warn, that while McCain may live another 16 years, there's a decent chance he'll develop "dementia."
Gibson asked: "There's also an enormous amount of medical records involving the time that he was in captivity in North Vietnam to check to see what physical damage he suffered and maybe what psychological damage." Johnson replied that Navy psychiatrists monitored McCain "for many years after his release. They found no evidence of any serious problem. And he strongly denies any symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder." Gibson pounced with a new line of fear: "But he's 71 years old. What do the actuarial tables say about a man who's 71 years old?" Johnson explained they say he should live to 87, but: "Much more difficult, of course, to predict any change in mental acuity. At age 71, there's about a 30 percent chance of developing serious memory loss or even dementia."
KATIE COURIC: Anything strike you as remarkable in terms of what you read today?DR. SANJAY GUPTA: Well, I think the fact that, you know, he has so many different doctors looking after him I thought was interesting, you know, eight different doctors all from the Mayo Clinic. He's obviously very serious about getting his health care. What I didn't see I thought was interesting, as well. There was hardly any mention of his mental health. There was no mention of depression. You know, this is man who had two admittedly weak suicide attempts when he was a prisoner of war. There was no mention of post-traumatic stress disorder or anything that may have been asked, or substance abuse, none of that was even mentioned.
COURIC: Let's bring in Dr. John Lapook because he's been taking a look at the health of past Presidents. How does John McCain compare?
DR. JON LaPOOK: I think he actually stacks up pretty well. People are focusing on his physical appearance and the fact that he's a little pale. Well, he stays out of the sun because of his melanoma. His swelling? Well, he had a lot of lymph node dissections and he bought with that the security, peace of mind of knowing that there were no cancer cells in those lymph nodes. And people think, well, he's not able to raise his arm and “doesn't that look funny?” Well, you know something, we should all remember that one of the greatest Presidents ever was in a wheelchair.
COURIC: That's right. In fact, Sanjay, what strikes me is that we know so much about Senator McCain, and yet knew so little about Presidents in the past, including Presidents like Woodrow Wilson who had a stroke, FDR who had polio and was in a wheelchair and had heart problems, and none of this, including John F. Kennedy's Addison's disease and back problems, none of this was disclosed to the public.
GUPTA: It's amazing to think about that now. John F. Kennedy, the youngest President ever elected, was probably one of the sickest yet nobody knew that at the time. You know, he had a briefcase his doctors actually carried around with him. The combination of that briefcase was actually his birthday. Open up that briefcase you had all kinds of medications. Should the public have had a right to know at that time, do we have a right to know now? These are interesting questions. But still, there's no law, there's no law that says we have to know.LaPOOK: Knowing what I know, if he came to me as a patient, from what his doctors have said and from what I've seen in the records, and said, “should I run for President?”, I'd say go for it, go ahead, because at the end of the day, as we get older, things are going to happen. You're going to have cancer developing potentially, you're going to have high blood and high cholesterol weighing in and maybe increasing of a chance of a heart attack or stroke. But at the same time, as you get older other good things happen like wisdom and experience. And I think you're always balancing the two of those things.
COURIC: And it sounds as if he's very well taken care of and he monitors his health very, very carefully.
—Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center





Not waiting until the actual Friday release of John McCain's medical records, on Thursday's World News anchor Charles Gibson (who's 65) and Dr. Tim Johnson (who at 72 is older than McCain) speculated about McCain's health. Gibson wondered about "psychological damage" from his POW captivity. Assured there's no evidence of that, Gibson jumped to wonder how much longer McCain has to live, a question which led Johnson to warn, that while McCain may live another 16 years, there's a decent chance he'll develop "dementia."
DR. SANJAY GUPTA: Well, I think the fact that, you know, he has so many different doctors looking after him I thought was interesting, you know, eight different doctors all from the Mayo Clinic. He's obviously very serious about getting his health care. What I didn't see I thought was interesting, as well. There was hardly any mention of his mental health. There was no mention of depression. You know, this is man who had two admittedly weak suicide attempts when he was a prisoner of war. There was no mention of post-traumatic stress disorder or anything that may have been asked, or substance abuse, none of that was even mentioned.
LaPOOK: Knowing what I know, if he came to me as a patient, from what his doctors have said and from what I've seen in the records, and said, “should I run for President?”, I'd say go for it, go ahead, because at the end of the day, as we get older, things are going to happen. You're going to have cancer developing potentially, you're going to have high blood and high cholesterol weighing in and maybe increasing of a chance of a heart attack or stroke. But at the same time, as you get older other good things happen like wisdom and experience. And I think you're always balancing the two of those things. 














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"There was hardly any
May 23, 2008 - 20:24 ET by Chris Norman"There was hardly any mention of his mental health."
I was also thinking there's no mention of the mental health of the adoring blank eyed dolts holding "Change" signs at Obama rallies.
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May 23, 2008 - 20:36 ET by SchnikeysAgreed.
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Sign of the sad state
May 23, 2008 - 20:38 ET by BlazerSign of the sad state of liberal America and the MSM when it's deemed totally acceptable to question a man's patriotism and mental fortitude, a man that was tortured by socialist-communist forces in Vietnam without bending or breaking to thier will, but never question a man's patriotism or mental fortitude that was nurtured and mentored by racist, terrorist, socialist's and communist's like the Rev. Wright , Bill Ayres, or Bernadette Dohrn. Somewhere in Hell, Che' is smiling.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Very well said! All I can
May 23, 2008 - 20:44 ET by Gary P JacksonVery well said!
All I can add, is this. If this is all they got on McCain, it doesn't exactly instill confidence in their side's chances in November!
I agree
May 23, 2008 - 20:49 ET by E4PukeIf the left did not have a lock on the media they would be screwed.
Oh, but they do. Now more
May 24, 2008 - 00:43 ET by Scout FinchOh, but they do. Now more than ever, it seems. When most of the Republicans in the House and Senate are in favor of advancing the ideas of "global warming" and promoting some form of amnesty for illegal aliens, you know the media figures into it strongly.
Politicians, by and large, don't care passionately about the ideas they wax on about. They are in favor of popular ideas, and they apparently believe most Americans want "global warming" mandates and amnesty for illegals. No doubt influenced by the media.
We will be led like sheep to the slaughter.
And people think, well,
May 23, 2008 - 20:56 ET by scamoramaAnd people think, well, he's not able to raise his arm and “doesn't that look funny?”
It should be noted that there is more than one definition of the word "funny".
Agreed. Don't forget the
May 23, 2008 - 21:13 ET by tracheostomyAgreed. Don't forget the doctor's little follow up lecture to the statement in bold. It's like Brent's blind or something.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
Correct me if I'm wrong. . .
May 23, 2008 - 21:08 ET by tracheostomyQuote: “And people think, well, he's not able to raise his arm and 'doesn't that look funny?'[<--part a.]
Well, you know something, we should all remember that one of the greatest Presidents
ever was in a wheelchair.”[ <-- part b. ]
Is it just me, or did Brent Baker completely screw this one up? It's like he leaped to conclusions and completely overlooked "part b."
Can we get a video here? I don't give a rat's ass how liberal the doctor might be (most in the medical community have no time to pay attention to politics), I just want this one statement looked at in full context.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
This appeared to me to be a
May 23, 2008 - 21:16 ET by JerThis appeared to me to be a generally positive and reassuriing medical analysis. Brent's headline referring to "funny" war injuries is a little misleading, however. It gives the impression the public is laughing at McCain's lack of full mobility in his arm. That's clearly not the case, nor the doctor's suggestion.
Jer
Glad I'm not the only one. . .
May 23, 2008 - 21:22 ET by tracheostomyJer: Brent's headline referring to "funny" war injuries is a little misleading, however.
Very much so.
Jer: That's clearly not the case, nor the doctor's suggestion.
Agreed. I want a retraction.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
Exactly. The headline
May 23, 2008 - 21:48 ET by balboaExactly. The headline implies that someone's making fun of McCain's injuries. No one is.
I agree with the above. I
May 23, 2008 - 21:50 ET by FoolicanI agree with the above. I admire the tenacity of NewsBusters, but even this is taking it too far.
People seem to be getting
May 23, 2008 - 21:56 ET by Clear thinkerPeople seem to be getting different views from the same wording.
I am questioning why the doctor assumes people would find it funny that his arms work the way they do. Damn near everyone in the country knows why he can't raise them, and I'm betting very few would find it funny.
"Abstain from McCain"
"Damn near everyone in the
May 23, 2008 - 21:59 ET by balboa"Damn near everyone in the country"? Really? You sure about that?
Yep, damn
May 23, 2008 - 22:05 ET by Clear thinkerYep, damn near!
"Abstain from McCain"
Doubtful.
May 23, 2008 - 22:12 ET by balboaDoubtful.
Let me know when you get
May 23, 2008 - 22:14 ET by Clear thinkerLet me know when you get finished with the polling.
"Abstain from McCain"
Right back atcha'.
May 23, 2008 - 22:17 ET by balboaRight back atcha'.
»→ Right bal
May 23, 2008 - 21:59 ET by Cool ArrowIt would have been the same if Hillary had said "The funny thing is, Bobby Kennedy was assasinated in June"
That would certainly have taken the edge off of her comment today.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
Sorry, Cool Arrow, I'm
May 23, 2008 - 22:00 ET by balboaSorry, Cool Arrow, I'm behind. What comment?
»→ Hillary's insensitivity
May 23, 2008 - 22:11 ET by Cool ArrowHere's the link.
It's obvious she meant it in sort of a "where were you when it happened" kind of way, but Obambi's camp jumped within minutes.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
WOW! That is an unfortunate
May 23, 2008 - 22:14 ET by balboaWOW! That is an unfortunate comment.
boa..not to the msm Obama
May 23, 2008 - 22:20 ET by bigtimerboa..not to the msm Obama lovers...this has been like a gold mine for them, you ought to have heard Olbie about this...something else.
Obama jumped on this like it was some big deal...and the rest of his flock followed, still are...gladly.
I posted about his on the latest Olbie blog.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
It was a really insensitive
May 23, 2008 - 22:30 ET by balboaIt was a really insensitive comment, but I don't think she meant "Let's hold on and see if someone will snuff out Obama for us."
She's driven, isn't she? :-\
Okay, I get it now. She
May 23, 2008 - 22:34 ET by tracheostomyOkay, I get it now. She was just saying Bobby Kennedy was still campaigning up through June when he was assassinated, right?
Yeah. I don't even think Hillary would imply what the Obama campaign is going to spin it to mean.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
Yep trach...that's about
May 23, 2008 - 22:45 ET by bigtimerYep trach...that's about it...and the msm has loved every second of it for their messiah....she has said this before by the way.
I posted about this somewhere...I detest Hillary, but what goes around comes around and boy oh boy is she getting her turn...talk about slash and burn.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
BT: I posted about this
May 23, 2008 - 22:52 ET by tracheostomyBT: I posted about this somewhere...I detest Hillary, but what goes around
comes around and boy oh boy is she getting her turn...talk about slash
and burn.
I hope she at least tries to take the MSM out with her. Do us all a favor.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
»→ Yeah, bal
May 23, 2008 - 22:22 ET by Cool ArrowI'm thinking it may even have been taped before the news of Edward Kennedy's cancer. Not sure.
But it does raise the thinskinned PC climate that has overtaken this campaign from all sides.
Sheesh, when McCain, A 3rd Gen Navy man immediately interprets "losing his bearings" as "losing his marbles" even though "bearings" is a proper Navy term meaning "course"
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
Now that's one I still
May 23, 2008 - 22:35 ET by tracheostomyNow that's one I still don't understand.
http://newsbusters.o...
Got it. Thanks.
- PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
This is total BS... Here
May 23, 2008 - 21:23 ET by Clear thinkerThis is total BS...
Here we are, Memorial Day weekend and instead of honoring him for the sacrifices he made for his country these liberal dolts would rather infer a negative with his injuries.
Most all of you know I am no fan of John McCain, but this goes far beyond anything I would ever say or do to the man.
And to Jer's comments above... more liberal BS as far as I'm concerned.
"Abstain from McCain"
Read the entire quote in
May 23, 2008 - 21:26 ET by tracheostomyRead the entire quote in context and more slowly, Clear. You're skimming.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
trach... You must be
May 23, 2008 - 21:34 ET by Clear thinkertrach...
You must be reading something different than I. Why does this doctor assume people thinks he looks funny? Everyone that I know, and a few of these people know almost nothing about politics, know why McCain can't raise his arms. So I still question why he assumes that others would find it funny.
"Abstain from McCain"
Keep an "open mind" CT,
May 23, 2008 - 21:48 ET by BlazerKeep an "open mind" CT, these are the same people that could find humor in a baby surviving a late term abortion or an "illiterate ingrate" surviving an IED explosion in Iraq.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
»→ True, Blazer
May 23, 2008 - 21:53 ET by Cool ArrowI think Obama refers to such children as "shelf fetuses"
See also BAIPA.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
Wow CA, I just got back
May 23, 2008 - 22:49 ET by tracheostomyWow CA, I just got back from reading that.
And I got $500 on the table that says Obama can't even read a medical chart without an interpreter, especially an OB/GYN note.
*thinking*
What am I talking about?!?? Medical documentation is federally protected information under patient privacy laws!!
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
»→ Yes, Trake
May 23, 2008 - 22:55 ET by Cool ArrowIt's one of those very few issues Obama actually took a clearly defined and unshakeable stand.
Fortunately BAIPA was one of the first pieces of legislation President Bush achieved upon taking office.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
It's one devilishly clever
May 23, 2008 - 23:02 ET by tracheostomyIt's one devilishly clever issue to flip-flop on. He's so safe from harm on that. I'll sweeten the wager that it never even gets brought up in a future debate.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
Did IQs suddenly drop while I was away?
May 23, 2008 - 22:03 ET by tracheostomyI mean what the hell, you guys?
I even spelled it out for everyone above. At worst, the doctor is using "some people" as a strawman argument for those that would laugh at McCain. He's lecturing people not to consider a candidate unusal because of disabilities.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
I agree Trake
May 23, 2008 - 22:36 ET by Cool Arrow"Some people" is an excellent way to introduce controversy without liability.
Here's one:
Some people are waiting for Obama to disavow his alleged liasson with Larry Sinclair.
Implied allegation true? Absolutely not!
Do "some people" wonder? Yes.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
Pretty clear to me what the message is
May 23, 2008 - 22:06 ET by general companyDR. SANJAY GUPTA: Well, I think the fact that, you know, he has so many different doctors looking after him I thought was interesting, you know, eight different doctors all from the Mayo Clinic. He's obviously very serious about getting his health care. What I didn't see I thought was interesting, as well. There was hardly any mention of his mental health. There was no mention of depression. You know, this is man who had two admittedly weak suicide attempts when he was a prisoner of war. There was no mention of post-traumatic stress disorder or anything that may have been asked, or substance abuse, none of that was even mentioned
This is simply more subtle innuendo from the msm, they are clearly suggesting that ALL of his records have not been released. Also suggesting that it takes way more then the average amount of Dr's to keep him afloat.
Dr Lapooks comments are not quite as bad, but this whole story is about exposing McCain's medical ailments and giving their listeners questions about his ability to run the country. Which I have no doubt they will continue to elaborate on
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Thank you. It's why I
May 23, 2008 - 22:09 ET by Clear thinkerThank you.
It's why I used the word "infer" in one of my posts.
"Abstain from McCain"
I read both GC's quote
May 23, 2008 - 22:17 ET by tracheostomyI read both GC's quote above and the entire "funny" quote as arguments against the regular grab-bag of caricatures about McCain.
You know. Angry, old, disabled, potentially nuts.
O_o <!!!
OMG, did I just infer something awful about McCain because I brought up the rumormill???
NO!!!
Gah!
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
Clear...as mud.
May 24, 2008 - 02:48 ET by JerAnd to Jer's comments...more liberal BS as far as I'm concerrned.
Let's see...how should I characterize that assessment? How about...more illogical mush from Clear Thinker.
Frankly, I was unfamiliar with McCain's restricted mobility in one of his arms. And I suspect my level of political awareness is at least that of the 'average' American. But I would certainly never make light of this slight physical impairment, i.e. consider it even remotely humorous, nor do I know of anyone who would. There may be some, perhaps many, who would find the condition odd or curious if they were likewise unaware of the underlying cause. And that is the context in which I believe the doctor was speaking.
My point is that I did not consider the doctor's use of the word "funny"--even if arguably not the most appropriate term--to be perjorative. I felt Brent's headline implied otherwise.
Jer
What's wrong with these
May 23, 2008 - 21:23 ET by the strugglerWhat's wrong with these people?This is slanderous.These pinheads lie through their teeth and spin anything and everything so they can feel smart about their witless selves.Begone fools!
»→ Ignoring the medical miracles
May 23, 2008 - 21:39 ET by Cool ArrowObama has done nothing of value yet he is somehow able to hold his head up.
Catie Couric has done nothing to improve CBS ratings, but there is no indication she returns her checks uncashed.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
Cool... "Obama has done
May 23, 2008 - 21:47 ET by Clear thinkerCool...
"Obama has done nothing of value yet he is somehow able to hold his head up."
But he does make a good speech ;-)
"Abstain from McCain"
»→ You're right Clear
May 23, 2008 - 21:49 ET by Cool ArrowHe's the Earl Nightingale of his generation.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
I see him as the modern day
May 23, 2008 - 21:53 ET by Clear thinkerI see him as the modern day Pied Piper. Obama is using words instead of music.
BTW... Whatever happened to all those kids that followed the Pied Piper???
"Abstain from McCain"
»→ Well Clear
May 23, 2008 - 21:55 ET by Cool ArrowThey took the Mark of the Beast and were cast into the Lake of Fire.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
Thanks for the
May 23, 2008 - 21:59 ET by Clear thinkerThanks for the update.
Maybe we should spread this info to Obama's followers. Hmmm... On second thought, maybe we shouldn't.
"Abstain from McCain"
Pied Piper?
May 23, 2008 - 22:50 ET by scamoramaI think of him more as a Judas Goat.
Cool..."Obama has done
May 23, 2008 - 21:48 ET by Clear thinkerOooops!
Hey look on the bright
May 23, 2008 - 22:21 ET by BlazerHey look on the bright side guy's, if McCain doesn't choose Mitt as V.P., he can run for Dead's,.......errrr.....I mean Ted's seat.
How funny is that? Yea, I didn't think so.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
For me this is much ado
May 23, 2008 - 22:24 ET by bigtimerFor me this is much ado about nothing....just another attempt to make those of us who do not like McCain stand up for him with anothr pro McCain blog spot.
JMO
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
BT,
May 23, 2008 - 22:28 ET by tracheostomyWha? So who're you voting for, then?
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
trach... I have no idea
May 23, 2008 - 22:33 ET by bigtimertrach...
I have no idea yet.
I will vote though...always do.
Geesh...where have you been, this shouldn't be new news ya' know concerning my dislike for McCain...
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
Well yeah, I know that.
May 23, 2008 - 22:40 ET by tracheostomyWell yeah, I know that. I'm just having a hard time keeping track. If you stand back and look at the names here, it's hard to tell during the transition to the nomination.
Some hate him, some don't, and some aren't sure.
But he's the nominee now, right? I don't see how a protest vote or something like that would solve anything.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
But he's the nominee now,
May 23, 2008 - 22:53 ET by bigtimerBut he's the nominee now, right? I don't see how a protest vote or something like that would solve anything.
Don't recall where I asked about that at all.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
BT: Don't recall where I
May 23, 2008 - 22:58 ET by tracheostomyBT: Don't recall where I asked about that at all.
It's the closest guess I could come up with, given the information I got.
I'm not going to push. I'm not really campaigning for him per se, and your vote is your own business.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
Thanks...as all of our
May 23, 2008 - 23:00 ET by bigtimerThanks...as all of our individual votes are here.
I respect everyones individual choice.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
In A Nutshell
May 23, 2008 - 22:35 ET by Intellectual HonestyIf the left did not have a lock on the media they would be screwed.
This is about as true of a fact as can ever be said. I have read some here and (mostly) on other forums complain that the Bush WH is horrible at PR. The fact is the liberal media will listen but then violate all agreed journalistic standards to spin the WH PR however they please.
They use every technique at their disposal: refute, ignore, muddle, omit, presume, stack etc etc. It is the #1 problem and why this site is so important. Hollywood can claim artistic license. Politicians are presumed to be...politicians. But journalists are PROFESSIONALLY OBLIGATED to report the truth whatever it may be. Most do not isolate their bias and once that is tolerated they are even more apt to insert their own/companies bias. We are now seeing this constantly hitting new levels but the irony is that the PC world of the left will slowly but surely eat itself from the inside out.
That is very clear when it comes to the Dem's choice of a woman vs. a black man. It's the battle of institutionalized entitlements an can only continue for so long.
"Doesn't that look funny?"
May 24, 2008 - 00:44 ET by on-the-rocksLibs find the strangest things amusing. When told of the reason, normal people probably wouldn't have such thoughts.
BTW, didn't President Eisenhower have a heart attack while in office? When I was young, I seem to recall my Dad mentioning that. [I am too tired/lazy to do an internet search at this time.]
"And people think, well,
May 24, 2008 - 03:07 ET by riff_raff"And people think, well, he's not able to raise his arm and “doesn't that look funny?”
I'm sure Sen. McCain will be able to raise his arm high enough to drill this pencil-neck liberal, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, in the side of his head the next time he sees him. And of course Sanjay will "look funny" picking his teeth up off of the ground.
Its so odd, my knee jerk
May 24, 2008 - 05:03 ET by USA4freedomIts so odd, my knee jerk reaction is: well if the MSM hates him that must mean I have to like him..
But then he does a speech like he seems to do every week telling us on the right to shove it. For example, his last immigration speech. Before that I was thinking, well if he picks someone that is very conservative, promises to stay only one term, builds the fence, then maybe I could consider him, then out comes another speech..
Remember, if he gets in and has the Democrats to go along with him, and the Jell-O backbone of the Republicans not to fight him, we might end up with more liberal ideas then you relies.
As far as the injury, that takes some set to call having his shoulder injury funny, maybe if you had someone smash a rifle butt in your face we would be lucky enough not to see your smiling, perky little ass on TV.. Oh..sorry that’s not funny to you..
I guess when its someone else that almost is killed by a mob and have your shoulder smashed and then tortured for years on end, I guess it is funny, IDIOTS. (Oh that’s right they are the party of compassion..)
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
Romney / Jendil 2012 (if,we survive)
And who are the compassionate ones?
May 24, 2008 - 04:56 ET by expatriotIt is quite telling when the "compassionate" Dhims focus on the physical disabilities of a war veteran who had his shoulders dislocated numerous times and was hung like a side of beef when he did not take the early release that was offered to him.
I may vehemently disagree with his politics but the MSM pointing out this lingering injury as a disqualifier is absolutely dispicable.
I find it appalling what the
May 24, 2008 - 05:17 ET by USA4freedomI find it appalling what the left have no problem with, the tortured Mc Cain beaten, hung up like a side of beef, beaten, etc. etc..(American) funny..
Men stacked up on top of each other naked.. and a picture taken.. non stop stories in the NYT of the horror..
A pair of scissors jammed into a babies skull and killed in the womb, no problem.
A prisoner on death row for killing a police officer, oh the horror of it all.. as they chant: no justice, no peace..
Like I said before: the party of compassion..
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
Romney / Jendil 2012 (if,we survive)
Obama's Drug Abuse
May 24, 2008 - 09:34 ET by buddycI am told by my expert friends that the chances that a black male who took hard drugs such as crack in his 20's or 30's has a 50% chance of taking them again later in life. If true, will Charlie Gibson at ABC and Ms Couric and NBC have a story on the possibility of a President having to make decisions on crack? Will they report it even if there is a 25% chance. The chance that McCain gets dementia while in office for 4 years is less than 25% but Gibosn still reported on the possibility. If you really want to answer age discrimination with race discrimination then maybe they should consider this. Age discrimination as well as discrimination based on a disability are immoral and illegal under US law.
Great point buddyrc, but
May 24, 2008 - 09:57 ET by BlazerGreat point buddyrc, but being a black male probably doesn't have much to do with the situation. I have a brother who has struggled lifelong with alcohol and drug's, success, priveledge and money only seem to exacerbate the problem.
He's now in his 40's and very liberal like Obama, and he seem's to relapse and have problem's during times of good success, almost like a reward.
Now the MSM certainly would never bring this up concerning B.O.'s admitted abuse of illicit drugs, although they drug Bush through the mud with his "purported" abuse of cocaine and alcohol. They will kowtow and run interference for thier messiah, plus to bring up question's concerning drugs and a liberal black man would be absolutely "racist".
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Sometimes torture is unconscionable, and sometimes just business
May 24, 2008 - 19:58 ET by needleThe liberals are outraged over torture [of extremely dangerous and malevolent “alleged” terrorist], unless our soldiers are being, or have been, tortured say by the North Vietnamese or whoever.
Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.