I have to offer a Keith-style special comment on that. Anyone who voted to screw up the political system of this country with the purpose of mischief should carry that with them the rest their lives. What a ridiculous way to use the vote for which people fought and died, to use that vote to make mischief. I hope you're proud of yourself. [20-second MP3 audio of this comment]That followed the contention of guest Michelle Bernard, of the Independent Women's Forum, that Limbaugh did “something positive” which helped Barack Obama “because he's said to African-Americans, ask the Democratic Party 'what have they done for you lately?'” and encouraged African-Americans to force “Republicans and Democrats to compete for the black vote.” For that, she concluded, “I say to Rush Limbaugh: good job.”
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The April 16 NewsBusters posting by Geoffrey Dickens, “Matthews: What Kind of 'Klutz' Takes Orders from Rush Limbaugh?” reported:
Rush Limbaugh's "Operation Chaos" has ticked off Chris Matthews. On Wednesday's Hardball, Matthews insulted Limbaugh's listeners, who are voting in the Democratic primary, as he questioned: "What kind of klutz do you have to be to take orders on how to vote from Rush Limbaugh and to change your party identity so that you can vote against, for somebody to screw the other party?"
Update 5:15 | Matthew Sheffield. Matthews was likely reacting to a news release put out by the Barack Obama campaign which cited Operation Chaos as at least partially responsible for Hillary Clinton's Indiana victory
The exchange from MSNBC's live North Carolina and Indiana primary night coverage at about 11:42 PM EDT Tuesday, May 6:
CHRIS MATTHEWS: Let me ask you about this Limbaugh factor. If Hillary Clinton wins this squeaker in Indiana, which is probably the best bet right now before we get the results in from Lake County, many could say that the margin of error -- the couple of votes that she won by, the percentage or two -- was generated by a mischief-making by a radio talk show host, a talk jock. That certainly does take some of the thrill out of it, doesn't it?
MICHELLE BERNARD: It takes a little bit of the thrill out of it, but, you know, here's some of the other things Rush Limbaugh has said, you know, during “Operation Chaos” that I think actually might have helped Barack Obama also. He -- last week I think on May 1st on one of his radio shows -- he came out and he talked about this history of the Democratic Party and basically has given sort of this impression to black Americans to really sit there and say to yourself: “What has the Democratic Party done for you?” He talked about the Democratic Party being the party of Bull Connor and coming out and saying it is not unlike -- you know, don't put it past the Democratic Party to take this nomination from Barack Obama and give it to Hillary Clinton. And he reminded black Americans about -- oh, God, Maynard Jackson wanting to be head of the DNC and the Democratic Party didn't give it to him and he goes through these types of things. And I think for any African-Americans who listen to that on the radio show, it might have even helped galvanize support for Obama in North Carolina and Indiana.
MATTHEWS: This was a two-step: He was going to manipulate the Democratic Party out of nominating Barack Obama and then blame the Democratic Party for that?
BERNARD: Well, that's one way to look at it. The way I choose to look at it is he's done something positive because he's said to African-Americans, ask the Democratic Party “what have they done for you lately?” And maybe as African-Americans, we need to sit down and think, do we really do ourselves justice whatsoever by all just being Democrats rather than forcing Republicans and Democrats to compete for the black vote? And for that I say to Rush Limbaugh: good job.
MATTHEWS: You know, I have to offer a Keith-style special comment on that. Anyone who voted to screw up the political system of this country with the purpose of mischief should carry that with them the rest their lives. What a ridiculous way to use the vote for which people fought and died, to use that vote to make mischief. I hope you're proud of yourself. Michelle, thank you for joining us.
—Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center
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Chris, get a life bud
May 7, 2008 - 01:36 ET by MearlineThis is a primary. sheesh
→ Earth to Chris
May 7, 2008 - 01:44 ET by Cool Arrow“anyone who voted to screw up the political system of this country with the purpose of mischief should carry that with them the rest their lives.”
I intend to do just that.
I'm already telling my grandkids how their dad and I went together to the Grape Creek fire dept. and voted for Hillary in the Texas Primary for the sole purpose of buying more time to have Gollum Obama more fully vetted.
I'll carry the memory of this act proudly for the rest of my life.
What's your point, Chris?
Bueller? . . . Bueller?
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I'll happily second this
May 7, 2008 - 12:23 ET by TruthMongerI'll happily second this one...
Tampering with elections...?
Damn, Matthews - it's not like we have control of the MSM TV "news" and entertainment, most major print outlets, the film industry, the popular music industry, etc, etc in a 24/7 full-court-press for our petty political purposes - like you do...
Now that would truly scumbag-bastard treasonous in my opinion...
Chris, don't forget to thank
May 7, 2008 - 01:59 ET by R D HelmChris, don't forget to thank your dem compatriates who crossed over and helped stick us with Sen. McLoser.
Thanks a pant-load, pal.
Jerk.
What the American people are looking for is somebody who can solve their problems. - Barack Obama, April 27, 2008
What he said
May 7, 2008 - 02:48 ET by sarcasmoMatthews is pretending that Limbaugh is the very first person to come up with a very old idea. I'd expect a paid political pro to know better. Also, people have a right to vote any way they want for any reason. Scolding them won't help, and won't change any minds.
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
that is just grand I live
May 7, 2008 - 02:22 ET by seaniepthat is just grand
I live in Florida and when they started talking about counting the votes here for hillary there were dems coming out of the woodwork (at least in local papers) who were against it because they said they used their vote to cause chaos in the republican primary because they knew that their Dem vote would not count!!!!!
I guess because they did it without someone having fun telling them to do it it was an honorable thing
Chris and Krazy Kieth had
May 7, 2008 - 02:53 ET by nicksmith112Chris and Krazy Kieth had bizarre distracting makeup last night.
For me the message was lost with the man-tan...lol.
It was "Night of the Living Dead" scary!
I'm a refugee from the Democratic Party.
And here I thought I was
May 7, 2008 - 09:16 ET by BuxomAnnieMcGreggorAnd here I thought I was the only distractee. Not only did the funky faux "aztec" skin give me a little pause, but I believe I detected a hint of "guy-liner". KRIPES! When will men be men again?
Heilige Scheiße! How do you turn this damned thing off? -J. Robert Oppenheimer
They must have had the same
May 7, 2008 - 09:20 ET by motherbeltThey must have had the same makeup artist as Al Gore did for that one debate....LOL.
I'm with you, Annie...I've had it with metro-sexuals! We need to get back to the days when men were men, and women were glad of it!
Chris looked like a wooden
May 7, 2008 - 12:07 ET by nicksmith112Chris looked like a wooden puppet...like a blond Charlie McCarthy!
His eyebrows looked painted on like Uncle Leo from Seinfeld...LOL
I'm a refugee from the Democratic Party.
Voting is a priviledge
May 7, 2008 - 03:27 ET by goldwaterfanMany have died for our right to vote in this country. Voting for someone you do not support is repulsive, and pretty Un-American. Rush, If you want Senator McCain to win the presidency, speak out everyday, tout his strengths and exploit the weaknesses of his opponents. Using subterfuge to promote his candidacy is just not right. It goes against the ideas of our founding fathers, and it spits on the graves of all who have fought for the greatest country on earth.
I suspect this kind of thing went on
May 7, 2008 - 06:11 ET by sarcasmoWith the Founders, too. Again, it's NOT a new idea to try to get the other team to run their weakest possible candidate. Not only that, there's always a risk that Hillary might beat the RINO & win.
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
→ Hey sarc
May 7, 2008 - 06:24 ET by Cool ArrowAnd this would be a bad thing in what respect?
Seriously, maybe the American people are capable of learning from the folly of their own self indulgence.
And maybe not.
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The only way we like to learn
May 7, 2008 - 06:41 ET by sarcasmoIs the hard way. I'd expect nothing less this election.
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
→ Which means
May 7, 2008 - 06:46 ET by Cool ArrowWhich means we will likely elect someone who will pick our pockets while we pick our noses (and other body cavities).
Ain't no easy way out of this one. Elect Casper the Friendly Ghost who won't speak unkindness, or elect one of the more forthright thieves on the Dem side.
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Our choices are a Democrat
May 7, 2008 - 07:44 ET by taterOur choices are a Democrat claiming to be a Republican, a communist, and a socialist. It really doesn't matter who gets elected...we are screwed.
McCain is probably the best choice if we don't want our country completely falling apart.
My hope is people wake up and realize the scum in Congress haven't done a thing but make our lives worse off and vote them out.
"They need to have a course in college called common sense and everyone should take it. Problem is there isn't too many people that could pass or teach it." -my grandfather
Honestly, it is idiotic to
May 7, 2008 - 03:55 ET by niner-four-whiskeyHonestly, it is idiotic to allow anyone but registered party voters to cast a ballot in a party primary election.
But it isn't illegal, so more power to the cross-over chaos voters.
I beg to disagree because
May 7, 2008 - 09:28 ET by Dan The Man 2I beg to disagree because some of us are independents. But we still live with a flawed 2 party system and will in practical terms have only 2 choices. I want to make sure who those tow choices are. Also it is an open vote, if teh parties wish a closed vote then they should jsut pick a canditate irregardless, which teh Dims may do if Hillary is chosen.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Dan The Man 2
May 7, 2008 - 10:05 ET by DelsaRegardless of how Independents feel, they are not registered in one of the political parties and therefore, in my humble opinion, should NOT have the right to vote in Party Primarys. Period!
If independents want to help choose the nominee of either party then they should join one of them.
The national presidential election is a given but independents have NO business voting in primarys. In the National election even I can vote for a democrat if I want to.
We in Florida live with "party" only primary's and it works out just fine unless.
Unless...
May 7, 2008 - 10:11 ET by sarcasmoWe're dumb enough to elect a socialistic RINO disaster of a governor who instinctively endorsed a fellow RINO? Because that's what happened, and Florida's vaunted "conservative" closed primary system didn't do squat to prevent it.
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
So you also believe if you
May 7, 2008 - 10:13 ET by Dan The Man 2So you also believe if you want to work you must join a union? It is the same idea of not being allowed to participate unless you belong to something. In Texas primaries are open as they should be. I reinterate if it is a PUBLIC election then all the PUBLIC can participate any way they see fit. Otherwise stop using PUBLIC money for holding the elections.
One problem with seating the delegates from Florida is the issue of holding anorther public election with PUBLIC monies. Florida doesn't want to put up the money. So the elections are PUBLIC and anyone should be able to vote however they wish.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Good point Dan about the financing
May 7, 2008 - 10:32 ET by Dee BunkI agree that anyone should be able to vote and I don't think people should have to declare a party. In IL you don't have to (I never have). I think primaries should all have to be held on the same day though. People need to pick one and it's not really right to vote in one just because your side is decided. I don't mean it's wrong for people to do it, I would have if McCain had been a lock when my state voted, but it shouldn't be allowed to happen.
The way that some states have a much bigger influence in the party nominee is just wrong and I can't believe that anyone thinks it's a good idea. It's crazy.
Florida voted. They don't have to hold another election, their votes should be counted as is.
Listen Dan
May 7, 2008 - 10:38 ET by DelsaIndependents do participate. They participate in the general elsction.
The Union analogy does not work. In "Right to Work States" like Florida, a person does not have to join a union to work, BUT he or she does have to pay a "fee", which is taken out of their paychecks, and given to the UNION's instead. The fee, depending on the union, is called any number of things. But the employee pays, either way.
A member of the union? NO but only technically. The employee is covered by all rules and regs but CANNOT VOTE for the officers of the Union.
That is how it works in real life and I am not suggesting life is fair.
Delsa in a right to work
May 7, 2008 - 11:29 ET by Dan The Man 2Delsa in a right to work state no one takes any money for a union thet does not represent them. Examine what you said "Independents do participate. They participate in the general elsction" and then understand they are excluded from particpating in some of it by excluding them. The founding fathers did not mean for this to happen.
If there are PUBLIC elections everyone participates otherwise do the elections on your own dime and behind closed doors so all can see teh sham for what it is.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
huh?
May 7, 2008 - 11:42 ET by candanceI've spent many years working in a right to work state and never had my wages garnished for any kind of union fee.
Candance
May 7, 2008 - 12:17 ET by DelsaI was president of a Union for eight years in the "right to work" state of Florida and I can tell you there is money taken out of your check.
It maybe called many different things but it is there. Now, it is possible your union does not have the same working agreement.
But I can tell you that if your company has a Union shop on the property and you work in that shop, then you have $$'s going to that union. One way or another.
It maybe something the company deducts but it there. Union shops ALWAYS get their dollar.
When a union represents you directly or indirectly and when you benifit from their negotiations, YOU are paying.
And you cannot vote for union officers. Sort of like an independent.
In addition, the money does not go to your local. It goes to the big boys.
well
May 7, 2008 - 12:20 ET by candanceConsidering most of my career thus far has been customer service oriented, there were no unions anywhere in sight.
Neither was there one for my housekeeping job, or my job in a furniture factory in High Point.
Many industries have no union involved right now.
Candance
May 7, 2008 - 12:43 ET by DelsaWhen i read your post, i thought you were saying you were working in a right to work state and by inference I thought you were in a union.
Actually, that is why "right to work" is such a farce.
In practice there is no such thing!
Delsa what do you mean there
May 7, 2008 - 16:17 ET by Dan The Man 2Delsa what do you mean there is no such thing as right to work in practice? And if an employer asks me for a fee to work there I tell him to take a hike and report him. You are kinda obtuse on this one.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Dan
May 7, 2008 - 16:50 ET by DelsaI know you hate to hear it but if you want to work in a job where there is a closed shop, you will not have to join the union but to work there you'll be paying something.
You cannot be forced to pay into a union's political pac fund.
Believe me though. What I am saying is true.
Unfortunatly, as long as you are not paying dues and are not forced to participat in union stuff, it is all legal.
Your only option would be to quit.
Another reason why voting to allow a union or not allow a union must remain a secret ballot.
Sad but true. Sorry if I am obtuse.
"Right to work" sounds good just like obama may sound good when in reality it is anything but good.
You do have the "right to work" and not "join" the union and that is where it ends.
So you are saying the
May 7, 2008 - 12:32 ET by Dan The Man 2So you are saying the parties like the unions are corrupt? It is against the Federal law for an employer to draw fees from non union members in right to work states for union purposes. What you have posted is nothing more than a protection racket.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
NO Dan
May 7, 2008 - 12:58 ET by DelsaWhat I am saying is, if you are NOT a member, YOU cannot vote for their officers.
AND it is only against the law to deduct or require DUES.
The government has allowed dues to be called anything else.
Such as ,"Professional Fee" which is what I have to pay as a realtor to the Association of Realtors.
They are called a professional organization but if i don't pay, I can't play. They are a union but do not call themselves one.
And by the way, I never used the word corrupt. You did.
It is called playing by the rules Dan.
You may not like the rules but they are what they are.
Two Party System?
May 7, 2008 - 15:33 ET by bradbenj5952I don't recall reading anywhere in the Constitution that we have a "two party system". Yes, we have a political environment "dominated" by two parties but our "system" has always been open to any number of parties. Whether other parties gain any traction is the real issue.
"Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive." - C.S. Lewis
Under current laws, that's impossible.
May 7, 2008 - 15:42 ET by sarcasmoHell, one Libertarian, Richard Winger, has practically made a living off of helping people try to understand ballot-laws which, sadly, have nothing whatsoever to do with the US Constitution. Quite the contrary, actually. Anyway, I agree with another libertarian (actually, he might be large-L, too, I dunno) named Sheldon Richman. This will upset partisans around here, but as I said to Dee, it's one party anymore, not two.
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
Anyone who voted to screw
May 7, 2008 - 04:09 ET by MidAmericaAnyone who voted to screw up the political system of this country with the purpose of mischief should carry that with them the rest their lives.
A person from the msm complains about manipulation of the election and can say this with a straight face?
Anyone remember MIchigan
May 7, 2008 - 04:58 ET by Kuso JijiI don't recall Matthews having a problem with the Democrats doing the same thing during the Michigan Republican primaries.
Wasn't there this huge push by prominent Democrats to get Democrats who could not vote in their primary cross over and vote for the least electable Republican?
Americans can vote for anyone they like and for whatever reason they want. That is what the men and women protecting our freedom fight and die for Mr. Matthews, you sniveling lowlife piece of turd.
Chris Matthews
May 7, 2008 - 06:04 ET by NKurucRegarding Chrissy's comments about Rush and Operation Chaos....this fool is only relevant to the very few viewers that watch MSNBC, a losing operation, and those of us that follow the "anti news" to get the opposing view.
Bottom line to MSNBC.......guess what? Nobody's watching your day in and day out trashing of George Bush, the Repub's, conservatives, etc. It's not too far off that this network and the Matthews, Olbermans, Abrams, and Scarborough's will be but a bad memory. They've all have been good for some laughs from time to time, because they take themselves far too seriously.
I don't recall Matthews
May 7, 2008 - 07:19 ET by motherbeltI don't recall Matthews having a problem with the Democrats doing the same thing during the Michigan Republican primaries.
Of course not. Those were genuine "independents" and "moderate Democrats" who truly wanted McCain to win and will certainly vote for him in November!!
<sarc off>
They also didn't have a problem with McCain throwing his supporters to Huckabee in order to defeat Romney in SC (?) which contributed to Romney's early withdrawal.
They are such hypocrites.
Hey Chris..."Politics ain't beanbag!"
Beyond just that...
May 7, 2008 - 10:28 ET by mikefiskIn 2000, you had huge numbers of Democrats in Michigan registering for the primary as Republicans to vote for McCain so as to humiliate then-Governor John Engler, who said that he would deliver the state for Bush (which was real easy for them; open Republican primary plus semi-closed Democrat caucus in 2000 equals ample crossover opportunity).
Granted, I can't fault them too much... in 2004 I did my own personal Operation Chaos in the Michigan Democrat race... I showed up to the polling place and cast a ballot for Dennis Kucinich, and convinced more than a few of my lefty friends to do the same. I think he ended up taking second or third in my county :)
Hey Chris!
May 7, 2008 - 06:10 ET by GForceIt's called, F-R-E-E-D-O-M
Ever heard of it?
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it"-Aristotle
→ Sure GForce
May 7, 2008 - 06:31 ET by Cool ArrowHe's heard of it.
He's free to describe his enrapturement of Gollum Obama as tingles seethe up his thighs.
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Oh the righetous indignation!!!!
May 7, 2008 - 07:44 ET by allahallahoxenfreeneo communist blow hard. We can't have any dissenting opinion to Chris Mathews' views can we? Or maybe its the common rabble expressing their opinions at the ballotbox that bothers him so much. Damn democracy always gets in the way of the next 5 Year plan.
CONGRESSIONAL TERM LIMITS!!!
And the culprit is . . .
May 7, 2008 - 07:33 ET by Galvanic"MATTHEWS: You know, I have to offer a Keith-style special comment on that. Anyone who voted to screw up the political system of this country with the purpose of mischief should carry that with them the rest their lives."
Did you hear that Howard Dean? Why did you disenfranchise the Dem voters in Florida and Michigan? To punish them for voting when THEY wanted to vote?
MATTHEWS: "What a ridiculous way to use the vote for which people fought and died, to use that vote to make mischief. . . "
I didn't know people fought and died for the right to primaries, but Matthews ought to ask the DNC why it opens its primaries to independents and Republicans if it doesn't want their participation.
Matthews would be better off prodding Dean to get off his keester and clean up the mess he made, instead of telling the candidates tht it's up to them. The DNC's idiotic declaration has made their party's lack of leadership a spectacle for all to see.
for which people fought and
May 7, 2008 - 09:53 ET by pbanks7for which people fought and died,
So Chrissy finally found a war he could support!
What kind of klutz do you have to be to take orders on how to vote from Rush Limbaugh
So that's 20 million klutzes vs. 200 idiots. Well Chris -- a klutz isn't always stumbling, but you're always an idiot.
Once again we have a Dhimmicrat complaining that Repubs are starting to do what the McDs been doing all along. I can't wait till noon to get today's marching orders from my hate radio!
MSM - shaping all the perceptions you need to believe.
proud of my vote
May 7, 2008 - 08:02 ET by welderforeWhat is with Chris Matthews man he is some kind of nut job, sure I voted in OP chaos and I will tell my grand kids and be proud that I did that ,after all did not the democrats slide on in and elect McCain and we lost some really good candidates . The problems the democrats have go far beyond anything that the Op Chaos people did , no one can hurt the democrat more then the democrats have themselves. If Cris Matthews wants to tell me what I am to my face I would love the oportunity for him to do that and I will tell him to his face he is a girlie boy and in love with Obama and also will tell him he lost out as Obama is married and has children . what a jerk "thrill up his leg indeed" Chris Matthews follows in the foot steps of the liberals they can do anything they want and it is grandios and wonderful even if it cost us 5.00 a gallon at the pump and that is what the democrats did by sitting on the Anwr povince and saving the snails we now have no energy to call our own. And are the congress doing anything but still holding out from drilling and making us independant of the Arabs , no they still are just sitting.
Seeing as how Mr. Matthews has taken it on himself to call me names I have a few for him he is a dishonest reporter that should make Ben Franklin roll over in his grave , maybe he could get a job with the communist Times he would fit right in .
Matthews is entitled to his
May 7, 2008 - 08:18 ET by Ruths husband BenMatthews is entitled to his wrong opinion, but the vote belongs to the voter and can be used any way the voter chooses. There is nothing immoral or unethical about using it to support a candidate you wouldn't actually vote for in the November election. If the dem's want to talk about unethical voting practices, let's talk about buying votes, nursing home votes, dead people votes, etc.
It's you darn vote - use it how you see fit
May 7, 2008 - 08:30 ET by SamFreedom is the right to vote for who you want, when you want, and for whatever reason you want. And you shouldn't have to be berated by arrogant cheerleaders, a-hem, reporters for it. Where was the outrage when liberals crossed over to vote for McCain earlier in the primaries Chris? What a dolt.
Chris is so jealous of
May 7, 2008 - 08:59 ET by Free ThinkerChris is so jealous of Rush. What a loon.
I love how Rush doesn't even
May 7, 2008 - 11:59 ET by Chris NormanI love how Rush doesn't even bother to mention Olbermann's antics - certainly not by name. This must drive Olbermann crazy. I'm sure Rush just laughs at Matthews. "Shame on you" - oh, Chris, you make Rush and the rest of us feel so bad...
Chris is so crazy
May 7, 2008 - 09:12 ET by Delsaover the FACT that Rush's operation is working. He is so in the tank for Obama he can't stand the fact Obama has to wait for the crowning.
This type of voting game gave McCain to the Republicans in the early primary states. This is Tit for Tat.
More than that, it will be fun or at the very least interesting, to watch their convention.
I find it hard to believe she will quit prior to their convention UNLESS the super delegates tell her to GET OUT NOW, save yourself embarrassment, and SAVE the party.
Am I hearing this right?
May 7, 2008 - 09:20 ET by dronetekSo, Chris Mathews is attacking people for using their right to vote? Does Chris think he should decide how people vote?
I'll tell you all something. Every now and than these people show themselvs for who they relly are and I think this is one of thos emomements. Here he shows us that he has contempt for American voters and thinks he should have some kind of control over it. Pretty amazing stuff.
rolls eyes
May 7, 2008 - 09:34 ET by candanceI very much doubt our forefathers died for a complex two-party primary system where the mob mentality forces us to choose between the lesser of evils.
My grandfather was a POW who survived the Bataan death march. If he was still alive to see the shape of our country he'd be ashamed - and Operation Chaos would be the least of his cares.
he came out and he talked
May 7, 2008 - 09:28 ET by motherbelthe came out and he talked about this history of the Democratic Party and basically has given sort of this impression to black Americans to really sit there and say to yourself: “What has the Democratic Party done for you?” He talked about the Democratic Party being the party of Bull Connor and coming out and saying it is not unlike -- you know, don't put it past the Democratic Party to take this nomination from Barack Obama and give it to Hillary Clinton. And he reminded black Americans about -- oh, God, Maynard Jackson wanting to be head of the DNC and the Democratic Party didn't give it to him and he goes through these types of things- Bernard
Limbaugh is dead on target. Blacks have been kept on a plantation by the Democratic party for decades; I don't know why they don't revolt!
She didn't even mention the fact that 70-80% of black parents want school choice and/or vouchers, and the Dem party continues to fight both, because they value the teachers' unions more, because they are the ones with the money! Shows you how much they care about their black constituency!
Pot calling the kettle
May 7, 2008 - 09:34 ET by wiwfPot calling the kettle black, Mtthews. Apologize for screwing Romney and we'll talk.
The Rocky Mountain Collegian: Illustrating Idiocy
I'm thinking since the Dems
May 7, 2008 - 09:40 ET by taterI'm thinking since the Dems do the same thing...they are just jealous they didn't have a catchy title.
"They need to have a course in college called common sense and everyone should take it. Problem is there isn't too many people that could pass or teach it." -my grandfather
→ wiwf
May 7, 2008 - 09:44 ET by Cool ArrowI don't think we'd be discussing Rev. Wright all that much if Romney were the nominee.
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Wait a Minute Chrissy...
May 7, 2008 - 09:40 ET by Bighead227Don't you play Hardball?? When Dems were getting rid of Romney in the open primary states that was their costitutional right, and now you want to cry when others exercise theirs because you love Obama. Grow some stones you little baby.
Chrissy getting apoplectic
May 7, 2008 - 09:41 ET by mattmChrissy getting apoplectic is proof Operation Chaos is working!
BTW As if the Dems crossing over in Florida (which had no delegates at the time) didn't give McCain the GOP nod.
What crybaby losers Democrats are. And what liars, hypocrites and phonies they are when they try to portray themselves as objective journalists.
Anyone out there who can't
May 7, 2008 - 10:09 ET by Hunter12Anyone out there who can't envision Chrissy ordering 80 pizzas for delivery to RNC headquarters on election eve? He's just PO'd because the operation continues to function. Dems want this over before Kentucky comes down about 80% for HRC and shows that the revelations in the handling of the Wright affair are still pertinent and talking heads can't tell people how to interpret the facts.
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Sir Winston Churchill
mattm...plus NH. "Never
May 7, 2008 - 13:03 ET by bigtimermattm...plus NH.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
I tried
May 7, 2008 - 10:54 ET by Eileen RightI tried to follow O'Bambi's lead, but "Present" wasn't on my ballot...
I saw this
May 7, 2008 - 13:01 ET by bigtimerI saw this yesterday...
Bernard was right...too bad critters like Matthews don't listen and let words from others register before opening mouths and making fools of themselves...but then again, that's Matthews.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
The liberal's "Operation Vote Swap" - 2000 & 2004
May 7, 2008 - 13:27 ET by Gary HallReally?
Did Matthews ever weigh in on what the liberals were doing in the presidential elections of 2000 and 2004? Not a primary, mind you - in the real thing:
The liberal's Operation Vote Swap - 2000 & 2004. When the lefties organized and ran national web-based schemes to swap votes from one state for another in order to boost the total votes cast for Nader, without endangering the electoral votes Gore needed to obtain. Think Florida - it almost worked.
This also was going on in the 2004 campaign cycle. Here's a bit of insight, Group Pushes Kerry-Nader Vote Swap, from the Washington Post:
I'm surprised the Washington Post was not listed as a founder of the group - no outrage there. Here's the referenced site - Uniting Progressives through Strategic Voting:
It's only bad if it pisses off the Democrats and the liberal MSM; then it is downright shameful; however, if it benefits the liberals it's just fine.
The fool, Matthews, is at it again...
May 7, 2008 - 14:08 ET by ThalpyThe fool, Mathews, is at it again; as if the NYT and msm in general didn't play up McCain because he may have been the least of the best. This whole thing is for real and it's on: socialism vs. capitalism. Are we willing to be micro-managed by a group of people who know what's best for us, or can we establish a government that provides individual freedoms, sovereignty, security, and hope for those we love and care about. None of the candidates is worthy of our support, but we have let it come to this. We will never give up (or in), and I plan to be old and in the way!
Hey, Chrissy. I'm a
May 7, 2008 - 16:58 ET by fitzfongHey, Chrissy. I'm a Californian, and therefore not subject to Operation Chaos. But those who did participate should certainly be more proud of themselves than you, a fat blowhard at an unwatched network who used to work for Jimmy Carter, the worst President in the history of the United States. Make sure you carry the failure that was/is Jimmy Carter with you for the rest of your life.
Shame, Chrissy
May 7, 2008 - 18:03 ET by nkviking75Is there anyone at MSNBC who understands the meaning of "shame"?
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
Chris Matthews is such a
May 7, 2008 - 18:15 ET by futbolisgreat1Chris Matthews is such a sad hypocrite.
While he cries about Operation Chaos, he stays silent about the DNC disenfranchises Democrat voters in Florida and Michigan.
Operation Chaos is NOTHING compared to what the DNC has done to voters in Michigan and Florida. The alway way that Obama can win this is by these two States not counting and the DNC is more than willing to not allow Michigan and Florida to be counted.
Why isn't Chris Matthews crying about this? why?
Matthews, why are you such a sad, pathetic hypocrite?
Party system
May 7, 2008 - 18:49 ET by niner-four-whiskeyThe primaries are not an election of the of the people, by the people and for the people. The primary elections are for the benefit of the political party, solely in order for the party to select a nominee, period.
As such, participation should be limited to one's chosen party affiliation. There is some reasoning to allowing undeclared voters a choice in one primary or the other (not both).
But to allow cross-over voting in primary elections is simply foolishness and leaves open the opportunity for this kind of mischief.
If you want to fight the two party system, then join the Libertarian, or Green or whatever party you feel best represents your political interests and vote or caucus in that party's nomination process.
If you think about it, "crossing over" simply dilutes whatever strength a third-party might have and buttresses the two-party domination that you dislike so much.
Matthews on voting
May 7, 2008 - 19:10 ET by JJVWhat is all this nonsense about creating mischief with your vote? Hey Chris, people fought and died so I could vote for anyone I want to for whatever reason I want to! That's America! You can vote for who you want!
Try this Chris, people fought and died for people to preserve the right to vote for Barak Obama, who listened to his preacher hate America for 20 years, and to serve on boards and make speeches with a man who tried to overthrow the government those same people fought and died for. I hope people can live with themselves for voting for Barak Obama.
By the way, I'm a charter member of Operation Chaos, voting for Hillary in Texas.
Nope, sorry...
May 7, 2008 - 19:30 ET by TheDeuceNo dues, no fees, no professional licenses...no union in my IT shop, period. Some workers (pilots) in my overall corporation are unionized, but not IT, nor Sales, nor Marketing, not anyone else for that matter.
I just looked up "Dope" in
May 7, 2008 - 21:03 ET by MightyMouthI just looked up "Dope" in the dictionary and that same picture of Matthews is there! What a co-winky-dink!
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