The AP reported this afternoon: “Saddam Hussein's intelligence agency secretly financed a trip to Iraq for three U.S. lawmakers during the run-up to the U.S.-led invasion, federal prosecutors said Wednesday. An indictment unsealed in Detroit accuses Muthanna Al-Hanooti, a member of a Michigan nonprofit group, of arranging for three members of Congress to travel to Iraq in October 2002 at the behest of Saddam's regime.”
When two of those Congressmen, Democrats Jim McDermott of Washington and David Bonior of Michigan, appeared from Baghdad on the September 29, 2002 This Week on ABC, George Stephanopoulos -- the MRC's Rich Noyes reminded me -- chastised a critic, not McDermott and Bonior, for daring to condemn the loaded charges against the U.S propagated by the two left-wingers. After McDermott blasted U.S. foreign policy from Baghdad, a shocked George Will remarked, "Why Saddam Hussein doesn’t pay commercial time for that advertisement for his policy, I do not know." Turns out, he did. [Video at right, audio available here.]
From the MRC's Monday, September 30, 2002 CyberAlert:
George Stephanopoulos showed on Sunday that he’s more upset by anyone daring to criticize liberal Democrats than he is by what those liberals said in the first place, no matter how outrageous. He scolded Republican Senator Don Nickles for a “pretty harsh charge” against a liberal Democrat who said President Bush would “lie” to justify a war and charged that Bush himself had “basically” accused Democrats “of treason.”On This Week, after Congressmen David Bonior (D-Mich.) in Baghdad claimed past U.S. bombing in Iraq had caused kids to get leukemia, “a horrendous, barbaric, horrific thing that’s happened,” and Congressman Jim McDermott (D-Wash.) confirmed that he thought President Bush would lie in order to justify going to war, Republican Senator Don Nickles of Oklahoma told Stephanopoulos: “I’m really troubled by what I just heard. Congressman McDermott said, well I think the President would mislead the American people and basically he’s taking Saddam Hussein’s lines, they both sound somewhat likes spokespersons for the Iraqi government.”
Stephanopoulos, who had not rebuked the Congressmen, retorted: “That’s a pretty harsh charge.”
Minutes later on the September 29 program, Stephanopoulos recalled how Bush had said “the Senate is not interested in the security of the American people.” Stephanopoulos acted appalled, telling Nickles: “That’s basically accusing them of treason.”
Bonior and McDermott appeared at the top of This Week from Baghdad in a pre-taped interview that displayed obvious editing by ABC. Every question from Stephanopoulos challenged their premises about Iraqi cooperation and how inspections had worked in the past and would in the future.
At one point, as viewers watched sweat spots grow by the second on his orange shirt, Bonior delivered this anti-U.S. diatribe:
The only nuclear piece that we’ve been able to detect here -- and we’re not looking as inspectors because we don’t know how to do that, that’s not our job -- but what we have seen is an incredible, unconscionable is leukemias and lymphomas for children who have been affected by this uranium that has been part of our weapon system that was dropped here during the last war. And that is a real tragedy. It needs to be addressed and we ought to take that issue up on its own because we’ve seen it not only here in Iraq, these weapons coated with uranium that atomize and cause these serious health problems, but we’ve also seen this happen in Kosovo and in Serbia and we need to look at that as a country to see if want to be using these types of weapons that cause these kinds of serious cancers. In Basra, when women have children they used to ask is it a boy or a girl after the birth, now they ask is it normal or is it abnormal. This is horrendous, barbaric, horrific thing that’s happened and the country needs to know about that. The world community needs to know about that.
Without any reaction to that, Stephanopoulos turned to McDermott: “Finally, Mr. McDermott, before you left for Baghdad, you said 'the President of the United States will lie to the American people in order to get us into this war.’ Do you really believe that?”
McDermott confirmed: “I believe that sometimes they give out misinformation. Lyndon Johnson did it in the Vietnam War. Both David and I were in that war and there was no Gulf of Tonkin incident. The President lied to Congress about how many people he was going to put into Vietnam or whether in Laos or whether in Cambodia. It would not surprise me if they came with some information that is not provable and they shifted. First they said it was al-Qaeda, then they said it was weapons of mass destruction. Now they’re going back and saying it’s al-Qaeda again. When will that stop? Why don’t they let the inspectors come so that we can disarm Saddam Hussein. Both David and I want to disarm him. That’s gotta be very clear. He’s not a very good guy.”
Stephanopoulos pressed: “But do you have any evidence the President has lied?”
McDermott repeated: “I think the President would mislead the American people.”
With that, Stephanopoulos thanked the two for appearing and switched to Senator Don Nickles in studio. Stephanopoulos began by asking him about the view of the liberal duo that the U.S. should wait for a report from UN inspectors who want to spend a couple of months doing inspections inside Iraq.
Instead, Nickles jumped on the two members of the United States House of Representatives for aiding the enemy while inside enemy territory: “I’m really troubled by what I just heard. Congressman McDermott said, well I think the President would mislead the American people and basically he’s taking Saddam Hussein’s lines, they both sound somewhat like spokespersons for the Iraqi government.”
Stephanopoulos scolded: “That’s a pretty harsh charge.”
Nickles defended himself: “Well, what they just said is pretty harsh...”
A bit later, without ever suggesting that Democrats had taken Bush’s comments out of context, Stephanopoulos asked Nickles to defend Bush’s charge that “'the Senate is not interested in the security of the American people.’ That’s basically accusing them of treason.”Later, during the roundtable segment, George Will reacted with outrage to what hadn’t inflamed Stephanopoulos: “Let’s note, that in what I consider the most disgraceful performance abroad by an American official in my lifetime -- something not exampled since Jane Fonda sat on the anti-aircraft gun in Hanoi to be photographed -- Mr. McDermott said in effect, not in effect, he said it, we should take Saddam Hussein at his word and not take the President at his word. He said the United States is simply trying to provoke. I mean, why Saddam Hussein doesn’t pay commercial time for that advertisement for his policy, I do not know.”
—Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center





On This Week, after Congressmen David Bonior (D-Mich.) in Baghdad claimed past U.S. bombing in Iraq had caused kids to get leukemia, “a horrendous, barbaric, horrific thing that’s happened,” and Congressman Jim McDermott (D-Wash.) confirmed that he thought President Bush would lie in order to justify going to war, Republican Senator Don Nickles of Oklahoma told Stephanopoulos: “I’m really troubled by what I just heard. Congressman McDermott said, well I think the President would mislead the American people and basically he’s taking Saddam Hussein’s lines, they both sound somewhat likes spokespersons for the Iraqi government.”
Stephanopoulos, who had not rebuked the Congressmen, retorted: “That’s a pretty harsh charge.”
McDermott confirmed: “I believe that sometimes they give out misinformation. Lyndon Johnson did it in the Vietnam War. Both David and I were in that war and there was no Gulf of Tonkin incident. The President lied to Congress about how many people he was going to put into Vietnam or whether in Laos or whether in Cambodia. It would not surprise me if they came with some information that is not provable and they shifted. First they said it was al-Qaeda, then they said it was weapons of mass destruction. Now they’re going back and saying it’s al-Qaeda again. When will that stop? Why don’t they let the inspectors come so that we can disarm Saddam Hussein. Both David and I want to disarm him. That’s gotta be very clear. He’s not a very good guy.”
Later, during the roundtable segment, George Will reacted with outrage to what hadn’t inflamed Stephanopoulos: “Let’s note, that in what I consider the most disgraceful performance abroad by an American official in my lifetime -- something not exampled since Jane Fonda sat on the anti-aircraft gun in Hanoi to be photographed -- Mr. McDermott said in effect, not in effect, he said it, we should take Saddam Hussein at his word and not take the President at his word. He said the United States is simply trying to provoke. I mean, why Saddam Hussein doesn’t pay commercial time for that advertisement for his policy, I do not know.”














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Treason
March 26, 2008 - 17:56 ET by ScrapironIf the DOJ would simply enforce the laws of the land there would be between 25 and 50 democrats serving in prison on charges of treason, not serving in congress and ripping off the American taxpayers. Everyone knows it but anyone in government that can do anything about it is scared they might be on the list also.
Old, Retired and glad of it.
Treason x 2
March 27, 2008 - 12:29 ET by pickerseniorIf the New York Times had announced during WWII that we had broken the Japanese code, the FBI would have thrown the editorial staff in prison, and probably executed them for Treason. Substitute today's Democrats, and Republican excuse makers for the editorial staff above.
Bush is only doing his job. McDermott & company belongs in the group above.
"If liberals didn't live it, it doesn't exist!"
Agreed. If you like the
March 27, 2008 - 13:16 ET by DJEddleAgreed.
If you like the comments, check out the articles: http://www.xomba.com/user/publius
Any takers for a bet that
March 26, 2008 - 17:58 ET by BDAny takers for a bet that the press will never press this question with McDermott or Bonior? After all, if this was a Republican receiving money from, lets say an oil company or oil rich nation, they would be hounded out of office....
The President and the GOP
March 27, 2008 - 11:20 ET by mattmThe President and the GOP should press the issue. This is one of my biggest frustrations with the Republicans; they play nice with people who stab them in the back every chance they get. Even if they couldn't take legal action they could at least expose the traitors.
Bonior, Conyers, Stabenow...
March 26, 2008 - 18:08 ET by heldmywMichigan's three stooges.
If anyone can figure out a way to rid us of these Global Village Idiots, we would be grateful.
(Don't forget Detroit (MI) RE-elected Kwame Kilpatrick, knowing he was a weasel)
It must be something in the water.
edit: DANG! I forgot Levin! Aaaaaaaah! Send the Marines!
This Marine left Michigan
March 26, 2008 - 18:37 ET by SemperrightThis Marine left Michigan in '88, I suggest you do the same.
"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference.
The MARINES don't have that problem."
President Ronald Reagan - 1985
I left in 86, and went to
March 26, 2008 - 20:44 ET by general companyI left in 86, and went to La...some of us never learn, least here we are turning it around
Between this and the Dems candidates, those nitwits should to feel real good about themselves right now. Too bad, a real Conservative could probably get some real traction right now
"Always do right. This will gratify some people, and astonish the rest". Mark Twain
Someone once asked if the
March 27, 2008 - 11:12 ET by Dan The Man 2Someone once asked if the USA would have been better off using a couple of dollars worth of ammo to off Saddam instead of spending big bucks we are now doing. So my answer is use a couple of bucks to get rid of the three stooges.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
What I want to know is
March 26, 2008 - 18:11 ET by bigtimerWhat I want to know is anything going to happen to McDermott and Bonoir...two of the most leftist congressmen we have had in history...I am glad of the recollection here of what happened with these two sleaze balls way back, I remember it well and how outraged I was with them, not surprised, but outraged...McDermott just went to the SC with the charges by Boehner regarding his leak to the NYTs/Gingrich ect...he lost, owes $$$ big time to House minority leader Boehner.
Nothing could please me more than to see these two leftist enemy within get their due that has been a coming for a long long time.
Don Nickles should of and would of been a great Senate Leader...I still miss him...he was right now wasn't he Georgie S?
Hope you keep us informed B. Baker, because the msm won't...plus George won't be doing an update or apologize about any of this with his reporting anytime soon.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
Selective memory, what a
March 26, 2008 - 18:49 ET by msh1973Selective memory, what a couple of morons! I mean really....three US Congressmen going over to talk with our ememies. Oh, Mark Levin was just talking about this on his show. They supposedly were going over there to see how the "children" of Iraq were doing. Sure, why is it that the libs are always looking out for the "children"?
Evening msh... The
March 26, 2008 - 18:54 ET by bigtimerEvening msh...
The leftists have always gotten away with their line 'the children'....just look at the votes from the majority of them regarding abortion...speaking of children and how much they care...
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
hi bigtimer, I am with
March 26, 2008 - 21:21 ET by msh1973hi bigtimer,
I am with you on that comment.
bt... You mean those
March 26, 2008 - 21:25 ET by Clear thinkerbt...
You mean those enlightened people that think killing a baby is preferable to bringing a life into this mean nasty world?
I really should not post about this subject because it honestly makes me feel sick. I have never understood the abortion/murder issue concerning liberals.
Death penalty BAD.... Abortion.... GOOD!
"Abstain from McCain"
CT
March 26, 2008 - 21:29 ET byyou can only kill those who haven't earned it??
Sweet 16 sign-ups here
botg... Sounds like liberal
March 26, 2008 - 21:44 ET by Clear thinkerbotg...
Sounds like liberal logic to me. Which of course is purely illogical!
"Abstain from McCain"
of course CT
March 26, 2008 - 22:15 ET bygive money to those who don't work too
Sweet 16 sign-ups here
If the libs had
March 27, 2008 - 11:54 ET by fonzie2178aborted those children, they wouldn't have to worry about the evil U.S. harming them. Sad when they don't care about our kids but step up to bat to defend the third world ones. In all reality their "save the children" rants are just talking points to pull at the heart strings of their supporters. We are the most humane country to have to fight against in a war. Everyone with common sense knows we aren't attacking kids. Hell, we'll even let the bad guys live if they don't put up a fight! Is that how the terrorists act? These politicians should be in prison.
"...Mr. McDermott said in
March 26, 2008 - 18:53 ET by Scout Finch"...Mr. McDermott said in effect, not in effect, he said it, we should take Saddam Hussein at his word and not take the President at his word. He said the United States is simply trying to provoke. I mean, why Saddam Hussein doesn’t pay commercial time for that advertisement for his policy, I do not know.”
Turns out Saddam Hussein did pay for that advertisement, Mr. Will.
I'd love to hear what Stephy has to say about that interview now.
And we are not shooting
March 26, 2008 - 18:56 ET by SemperrightAnd we are not shooting these traitors, why?
That's right the Republicans are pu$$ies that's why. Defend yourselves damn it.
"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference.
The MARINES don't have that problem."
President Ronald Reagan - 1985
Crazy old uncles
March 26, 2008 - 20:49 ET by acumenAre we allowed to question their patriotism yet?
A follow up please -- So are the dems blocking foreign terrorist surveillance legislation to protect the interests of their special interest lawyers group or to protect the dems terrorist-supporting donors such as Muthanna Al-Hanooti?
Aside -- Anyone else find it interesting that the AP didn't consider it newsworthy to inform the reader that Al-Hanooti was former head of the Michigan branch of the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR)? Al-Hanooti is among 13 other high level officials of CAIR currently being investigated for ties to terrorists. CAIR and Barack (redacted) Obama seem to be in a race to see who has the most crazy "old uncles."
ac... Hey thanks for the
March 26, 2008 - 21:05 ET by bigtimerac...
Hey thanks for the info. regarding the ties to CAIR...I usually keep up on that group...haven't in awhile.
Not surprised in the least about the AP keeping mum about this though...unfortunately.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
BT
March 26, 2008 - 21:34 ET by well99Just a note about Cair.It is the msm's favorite go to organzation.Gee I wonder why?It cant be because of their overwhelming membership.
http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/010210.php
Dems love children?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK_QshS2EW8
Hey w99... Thanks for the
March 26, 2008 - 21:43 ET by bigtimerHey w99...
Thanks for the info and the link...great news about their membership, all too true about their clout...to this day.
As for Not-so-Bright...it goes without saying.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
BT
March 27, 2008 - 00:04 ET by well99Your welcome just hope more comes out on this story.It will be interesting to see how it is played by the msm.Since Repubs were designated Party of Corruption because of a few bad apples does this make the Dems the Party of Saddam?
Sing Sing
March 26, 2008 - 20:58 ET by BarkerAn indictment unsealed in Detroit accuses Muthanna Al-Hanooti, a member
of a Michigan nonprofit group, of arranging for three members of
Congress to travel to Iraq in October 2002 at the behest of Saddam's
regime.
Hopefully Al-Hanooti flips, and treason trials ensue.
Barker... We couldn't be
March 26, 2008 - 21:07 ET by bigtimerBarker...
We couldn't be that lucky...but then again...they say hope springs eternal.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
The MSM will not mention a
March 26, 2008 - 21:39 ET by ConservativeRexThe MSM will not mention a thing about these traitors. For one thing, they don't see any treason involved. In fact, in their convoluted way of thinking, these idiots probably see these traitors as patriots!
If proved, not only should they be arrested, they should lose all Congressional privileges for life, and never be allowed out of this country again, for any reason.
Why do we continue to put up with crap like this? I honestly believe there is a reckoning coming.
McDermott and Bonoir should be promptly arrested.
March 27, 2008 - 00:19 ET by R D HelmPeople like them are the reason we will eventually lose the GWOT.
Theme for Election '08: I want my mommy!
Bonoir's statements
March 27, 2008 - 00:43 ET by jdhawkBonoir's statements regarding depleted uranium (DU) shells are simply lies. There is no evidence that DU causes the horrific diseases that he claims. DU is used because it is extremely hard. DU is used in antitank rounds of 25mm, 105mm, and 120mm and has been proven highly effective. Is it radioactive? Yes, but mildly so. In fact, DU is used in tank armor. In some cases, our Army tank crewmen are surrounded by it.
Bonoir bought into Hussein's propaganda. Like George Will stated, Hussein might as well have been addressing the American people as this ignorant congressman.
Given the numerous staff that are given each congressman, to include military liaison, all the congressman had to do is ask one of them to check these charges out.
Bonoir didn't do that. So, one can conclude that he didn't because he so fervently believed our enemies that he didn't bother.
Yes, he and McDermott should have been charged with treason. In fact, they can still be charged. Like murder, there is no statue of limitations on treason.
By the way, isn't what McDermott and Bonoir did what bambi has proposed that he would do if elected president.
So much for American
March 28, 2008 - 03:05 ET by Andrew H.So much for American unity. We can't be unified when idiots are elected to congress by the entitlement minded and they parade their lying liberalism like these ass-clowns. To them it's liberalism first and far above any notion of country.
Liberalism is a convenient lie.
Andrew
March 28, 2008 - 03:12 ET by gfrrocksUnfortunately, there is no one in our political realm that has the guts to try these traitors for what they are....it's all a power game of keeping that power. No ruffling feathers among the same bird!!! Pizzes me to no end..I'd rat'em out in a heartbeat!!! 'Course if was to ever get elected one of these offices, i'd be "done" in one term if not less!!! ;-)
GEORGE STEP-ON-ALL-OF-US...
March 27, 2008 - 07:22 ET by danybhoyIt's sad to see Little George Jr. defending traitors like these 3 @$$clowns. I wonder if he would change his opinion of those who questioned these 3 who had 1 goal, undermine the USA, the US Military, & President Bush?
I hope at some point we take treason, sedition, & the Logan Act seriously soon. Someone might want to make a list of idiots that could be brought up on these charges. It's just an idea.
"Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise" Mark Levin
Hasn't always been the libs
March 27, 2008 - 08:24 ET by ConservativeRexHasn't always been the libs blasting Conservatives for taking junkets on those "evil" corporations money? I would rather have them doing that then taking junkets on an evil, murderous, dictators money.
Super Delegates?
March 27, 2008 - 10:16 ET by CaringwhiteguyAre these current and former members of Congress Democrat Super Delgates? If so, things look good for Hillary. It's obvious their votes can be bought.
The proper response...
March 27, 2008 - 10:25 ET by CortillaenStephanopoulos scolded: “That’s a pretty harsh charge.”
Nickles defended himself: “Well, what they just said is pretty harsh...”
What Nickles should have said: "Yeah, the truth is harsh. Maybe that's why certain people like to avoid it. [pointed look at Stephanopoulos]"
www.rhjunior.com Great comics with a hefty dose of Christian and anti-nutjob goodness.
"With your mind as high as Mt. Fuji you can see all things clearly. And you can see all the forces that shape events; not just the things near to you." -Miyamoto Musashi
I was listening to Morning
March 27, 2008 - 11:33 ET by marpelI was listening to Morning Joe when I heard them talking about this. Not once did they mention that these Congressmen were Democrats. Not even Joe Scarborough mentioned it...
And no one ever eluded to the fact that they are traitors.
Well Marpel, The AP
March 27, 2008 - 11:55 ET by LeonWell Marpel,
The AP article mentions it repeatedly, so that should help you sleep at night.
No justice with no justice system.
March 27, 2008 - 11:45 ET by ScrapironThe only punishment available to us for these traitors is to make sure they go down in history (like Hanoi John Kerry/Jane Fonda) as traitors to their country. They’re families must be real proud of them, not. There is quite a long list to add to the list of traitors from Vietnam. Along with these three sleezeball traitors you can add, Turbin Durbin (AQ-Il), Reid (AQ-Nv), Peeeloshi (AQ-Ca), Fat Ted (AQ-Ma), Hussein O (AQ-Il) and dozens of other democrats across the land.
Old, Retired and glad of it.
The trip was approved by
March 27, 2008 - 11:54 ET by LeonThe trip was approved by the State Department.
The Justice Department says there is no information 'whatsoever' that anyone on the trip knew the Saddam connection.
End of debate.
No Professor Truth
March 27, 2008 - 12:04 ET by well99It isnt the end of the debate.Is that the same justice department that gave Sandy Burger a slap on the hand?It should be investigated by congress.They cant spend all their time investigateing sports.
It wasn't just the fact
March 27, 2008 - 12:18 ET by DJEddleIt wasn't just the fact that they took the trip that is disturbing. It was their words from inside a nation that had defied UNSC resolutions and was hostile towards our country. They were complicit in spreading Saddam's propaganda. It doesn't matter if the president himself put them on the plane...what matters was their conduct once they were there.
This is just the beginning of the debate - but if you want to slink away now, you'd probably be better off.
Listen up everyone
March 27, 2008 - 12:36 ET by CaringwhiteguyThe debate is over. Leon says so.
Leon... According to
March 27, 2008 - 12:54 ET by bigtimerLeon...
According to Chuck Hagel who has made numerous trips also to Iraq it is up each congress-critter to know before-hand who paid for the trip they are talking....he said you are supposed to look into it yourself before leaving...regardless.
AS far as I am concerned the likes of especially McDermott who is a treasonous nutcase IMO and I will throw in Bonior for the heck of it...they knew danged good and well about this...but hey, they're dems...so what the heck...to the leftists world-wide it matters not...
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
Add them to the list...
March 27, 2008 - 13:14 ET by DJEddleSo, I guess we can now add these three congressmen to the list of our back-stabbing "allies" and "patriotic" Americans. It would seem that they were complicit in the attempts by Saddam Hussein to convince the U.N. and the rest of the world that sanctions ought to have been lifted - just like the Duelfer Report had described.
The following link is an excellent review of the lead up to the Iraq War, if anyone is interested. Perhaps this story should be added to the content. Here's the link:
http://www.xomba.com/why_we_are_in_iraq
Today's Democrats will always be on the wrong side of any historical event, especially if it involves protecting our country, our allies, and our vital interests. But of course, it's always after they supported it. That way they can cover both outcomes. So pathetic!
I am so glad that these
March 27, 2008 - 13:06 ET by Ruths husband BenI am so glad that these three get this great postscript to their careers as politicians. If they really didn't know who was paying the freight that makes them even greater useless idiots.
They are an embarassment to their family, their party, and their country. Well maybe not their party. But the other two stand.
We need a (T) identifier
March 27, 2008 - 13:21 ET by needleI read a lot of commentary on this web site about how the liberally biased media consistently “forgets” to identify with “(D)” Degenerate, Dishonorable, and Dishonest Democrats. (I hope “Degenerate, Dishonorable, and Dishonest Democrats” is not a complete redundancy.) Perhaps we should be agitating in some cases for a (T) identifier, so that Democrats like Jim McDermott and David Bonior can easily be distinguished from other more responsible Democrats, assuming there are some.
Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.