CBSer Uses WFB Passing to Rue 'Limbaugh-ization of Conservatism'

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Lumping Rush Limbaugh in with Michael Savage, CBS News Washington Producer Ward Sloane lamented in a Wednesday afternoon CBSNews.com “Couric & Co.” blog entry how “it’s sad that people like Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage are today’s mouthpieces for conservatism” when “Buckley was not a hate monger” like them. Sloane then contended:

The conservative movement in this country is badly in need of somebody who can make a point without demeaning and demonizing liberals and moderates. Surely there are better “uniters” than Ann Coulter or Bill O’Reilly. Are there any conservatives who think that the Limbaugh-ization of conservatism may have something to do with its fractiousness? After all, one man’s hate is not necessarily another’s. This is not William F. Buckley’s conservatism.

The preceding paragraph in Sloane's “Good night, Mr. Buckley,” posted February 27:

In a way, it’s sad that people like Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage are today’s mouthpieces for conservatism. What a far leap they are from the quick witted and smart Buckley. I think it’s fair to say that even Buckley’s ideological enemies admired him and respected him. That’s because Buckley was not a hate monger; he was a serious-minded person who made reasoned and rational arguments for his cause. No apologies to Limbaugh, Savage or their listeners and adherents -- they are no substitute for Buckley’s class and intellectualism.

Hat tip: RadioEqualizer


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Based on his analysis I

Based on his analysis I would conclude that Mr. Sloane has never listened to Rush Limbaugh, which should surprise me since he is in the news reporting business.  Unfortunately, it just speaks to the lack of basic journalism skills of "news" reporting on the networks today.  Being at CBS it is actually quite understandable based on its track record.

EL RUSHBO...

 Rush talked about about WFB at length today, he is 1 of the bigger influences on Rush, he talked about being nervous as hell when he 1st met WFB. He had nothing but praise for him. I don't really see the hate in El-Rushbo, unless you consider self reliance to be hatefull.

Rush is also a racist, the MSM says so, but anther guy he has nothing but the greatest respect for is Thomas Sowell, he references his writing's all the time. Sowell is highly thought of be conservative across the board.

The MSM, or should I say the DBM (drive-by-media)would love to get rid of El-Rushbo, they would love to jam his golden EIB mic where the sun don't shine. But like he has said, they did'nt make him, so they can't break him. When you look at what happened to Imus, that makes sense.

 

 

"Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise"  Mark Levin

I think Rush hates the left.

I think Rush hates the left. Perhaps in response to an MSM he felt was not getting the conservative message right, he felt he had to be an antagonist to get noticed. So that's what he did, has done.

I think Rush hates the left.

What's not to hate? If you can give me one example... no, give me half an example...

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

Anyone....

....who says Limbaugh is a hatemonger obviously has never listened to him or has such thin skin that even the slightest criticism of someone or the use of satire is somehow hateful.

CBS should take a good, hard look at the things that have been said about Bush (Hitler), Cheney (war criminal), pro-lifers (mad bombers), gun rights supporters (right wing extremists) etc to see what real hate mongering is.

That's how they operate

They say something over and over and over again until it gets accepted as the undebatable truth. "The failing economy", "The aileures in Iraq", and "conservatives are racists/hate-mongering-bigots", "Minute-men hate Mexicans" are all fine examples.



"To send men to the firing squad, judicial proof is unnecessary." Ernesto "Che" Guevara


And let us not forget

Norman Mailer, Gore Vidal, etc. WFB had his run-ins (and with these two, run-overs). Let's not forget Arthur Schlesinger, and a host of nemeses throughout the years.

Some wonderful WFB quotes:

“Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.” 

“There is an inverse relationship between reliance on the state and self-reliance.”

“Liberals, it has been said, are generous with other peoples' money, except when it comes to questions of national survival when they prefer to be generous with other people's freedom and security.”

WFB managed to maintain a wonderful relationship with JK Galbraith, even though they couldn't have been further apart. One of the great tear-jerking columns ever written (by anyone, anywhere) was WFB's bittersweet reflection on the physical deterioration of Hubert Humphrey. There were hundreds of examples of genial opposition, but there were also cases where WFB was a real fighter. WFB, to the best of my memory, never let it become personal on his own. But when an adversary made it personal, WFB was no pushover. He could give it out when he wanted to.

When liberals try to sugarcoat his opposition to them, it's confirmation that they still don't get it.

I don't need to be told who

I don't need to be told who is a conservative or who isn't by another blathering leftist idiot or their network or anybody who speaks for slithering critters like Sloan...or how to think for that matter.

You people have done enough damage to our country, stick to your own self delusions....and the agenda you are seeking for yourselves with your dream of getting your grip on power again, which by the looks of things so far you just may...you have put McCain on your band-wagon for years now, he is your dream buddy for us conservatives....job well done. 

No Thanks

Yeah, we should all listen to liberals and how they think conservatives should be, then act accordingly. We should throw Limbaugh under the bus for blowing up the Dem cabal in 1994. We should add some politcal correctness to our conservativism. Why, accordingly to Sloan, we should start acting like...liberals!!! That would make him happy. P-U, Mr. Sloan, and no thanks.

same old, same old ....

It's the same tired meme: conservatives are racists, homophobes, haters, etc., etc., etc.

If you dislike someone's position that makes you a 'hater'. If you riddicule the riddiculous, that makes you a bigot. And so on, and so on, ad nauseum.

Is this Pot vs. Kettle day at NB?

"The conservative movement in this country is badly in need of somebody who can make a point without demeaning and demonizing liberals and moderates."

It seems that this statement would be more valid if it was written:

"The liberal movement in this country is badly in need of somebody who can make a point without demeaning and demonizing conservatives."

In his faux-praise of Buckley, Sloane behaves in exactly the way he accuses Limbaugh of behaving.  Thus, Sloane is the hate-monger, not Limbaugh, nor even Savage.

How 'bout this

How 'bout this "hate-mongering"?

 

Farrakhan on white people:

“White people are potential humans - they haven’t evolved
yet.

And again: Murder and lying
comes easy for white people.”

 

Howard Dean:

I hate the Republicans and everything they stand for . . .

 

British pundit Charlie Brooker,
during the presidency of George W. Bush:

John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley Jr. —
where are you now that we need you?

 

Markos Moulitsas Zuniga crowed
over the death of American contractors in Iraq:

I feel nothing over the death of merceneries [sic]. They
aren’t in Iraq
because of orders, or because they are there trying to help the people make Iraq
a better place. They are there to wage war for profit. Screw them.

 

Duncan
“Atrios” Black
discussing ABC’s The Note:

[M]y take on The Note has always been, with apologies to
Douglas Adams:

A bunch of mindless jerks who will be first up against the
wall when the revolution comes.

 

Huffington Post blogger Tony Hendra
wished for Dick Cheney to die:

Lord, give Dick Cheney’s Heart, Our Sacred Secret Weapon,
the strength to try one more time! For greater love hath no heart than that it
lay down its life to rid the planet of its Number One Human Tumor.

 

“We are not waging a war on terror in this country. We’re
waging a war of terror. The biggest terrorist in the world is George W. Bush!”
Cindy Sheehan

 

Comedian Chris Rock:

If President Clinton would pardon me I would whip Starr’s
ass right now. I will get a crew from Brooklyn
and we will stomp him like, like, we’re Savion Glover. We’ll stomp him like
it’s bringing da noise.

 

Director Spike Lee on Charlton Heston:

Shoot him with a .44 caliber Bulldog.

 

James Carville on Ken Starr:

He’s one more mistake away from not having any kneecaps.

 

rbo... Priceless!!!

rbo...

Priceless!!!

blah, blah, blah, blah, did

blah, blah, blah, blah, did that guy at CBS say something??  I couldn't hear over the din of liberals shrieking conservatives are evil, ruthless, bigoted, murdering Nazis.

 Lord Sidious / Darth Vader 2008  Long Live the Empire!  Come to the Dark Side, it is your Destiny.

Without denigrating Mr.

Without denigrating Mr. Buckley in any way - Sure, the liberal media would like to see the conservative "mouthpiece", as they so dismissally put it, relegated to a PBS show airing at 10:00 PM on Sunday nights and a niche political commentary magazine with a small circulation. That Limbaugh just doesn't know his place...

10 PM was after my bedtime in the mid-'60s

So Miami's PBS station must have been re-airing it. And (not saying you did!!) it's not fair to compare Firing Line (a PBS TV show) with either Limbaugh's or (from what little I've heard 3rd-hand) Savage's commercial-filled radio shows, IMO. All sorts of apples-&-oranges reasons apply. Nor is it fair to call any one person the mouthpiece of the entire conservative movement -- even Barry Goldwater had Ronald Reagan and various others arguing his case when -- as today -- conservatives were in the minority in politics.

For more insight on what might be wrong with the state of US conservatism these days, have a look at Hit & Run's reaction to the same event & compare/contrast with NB's various posts. (My verdict? It's a blessing to be able to read both sites, despite the fact that this is a very sad day if you're an old geezer like me!) I especially enjoyed Jacob Sullum's honest but still deservingly reverent last paragraph.
JMR


A corruption-story the TV media will-not cover.

Sarc,I apologize, but I

Sarc,

I apologize, but I have no absolutely no idea what you're talking about. It sounds like you're disagreeing for the sake of disagreement.

No, not at all, my apologies!

I was just remembering the first Firing Lines I ever watched. Buckley definitely convinced me of a lot of conservative things, early on. I just think Sullum's take is interesting, like yours. I knew I should have made it a new post -- but was it really at 10PM? As I recall, dimly, TV went to test patterns around 11 or so in those ancient days. And I'm pretty sure my memories of seeing Firing Line were in the daytime.
JMR

A corruption-story the TV media will-not cover.

Don't know about your area,

Don't know about your area, but it came on after Masterpiece Theatre in mine.

Sunday afternoon...Firing Line

Sunday afternoon...Firing Line 1:00 p.m.; preceded The McGlaughlin Report; then, John McGlaughlin's One on One; and finally Wall Street Week.  "If it's Sunday afternoon on PBS, it must be conservative."

Jer

What CBS is really trying to say is:

The only good conservative is a dead conservative.

You're right, after he

You're right, after he passed away, they found new respect for Ronald Reagan (compared to George W. Bush).

Or perhaps the only conservative...

Or perhaps the only conservative they approve of isn't so conservative after all.

Rush's Mentor?

That's funny, it wasn't that long ago when the left wing was calling Mr. Buckley things like; fashist, bigot, war monger, evil, and assorted other derogatory names and terms. One would think that, after all the derogatory attacks on Mr. Buckley over the last several decades, one would be lead to believe that Mr. Buckley was Rush's mentor and that he and the rest of the right wing commentators are just carrying on in the Buckley tradition. I wonder what’s changed?

Simple, he

Simple, he died.

 

 

I was a professional twice over - an analyst and a therapist. The world's first analrapist

I wish all pundits were as

I wish all pundits were as eloquent as WFB. That would be a nice change.

Yup

I didnt always agree with him but he had my respect.Today to many pundits are waiting to talk and dont know how to think on their feet.

Thank you and RIP W.F. Buckley.....Rush Rules

I am a huge fan of Rush and listen daily. I have never heard him spewing hatred at anyone. I have heard him speak the truth....and we all know Liberals hate that.

I was a big fan of

I was a big fan of Buckley...not so much of Limbaugh.  Although I certainly wouldn't label Rush a hatemonger, there have been many occasions when his commentary has exceeded the bounds of good taste.

Jer

I disagree...

I think you could certainly say that about Michael Savage, but I don't think Mr. Limbaugh has crossed the line of decorum that often.

To state the obvious,

To state the obvious, it depends on where one draws the line.  As a Democrat, I'm sure I drew it a little differently than most conservatives.

Jer

Agreed.

Yes, we understand.
Democrats are so punctilious about good taste.

Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.

needle...I'm not saying

needle...I'm not saying that because I'm a Democrat I would draw the line more appropriately--just differently.  Just as you might with Olbermann. 

But, there are boundaries which I would hope we both could agree upon.

Jer

Dysfunctionalism & Liberalism are synonymous

More liberal whining and whinging based solely on their own ignorance. Liberalism’s mean-spiritedness and disaccord for anyone (excluding radical-Islam and Commies) whose tenet lies outside of their leftist litter-box!

The vile sentiments expressed on many leftist blogs, of course, the media, regarding Buckley, were utterly crass and tasteless. Then again, one must expect little from these wannabes, the self-anointed and self-appointed leftist-intelligentsia because in the final analysis, the sum total is naught.

As mentioned, most of these wanks have never listened to Limbaugh – this is and shall remain, the liberal way.

Goodnight, Mister Buckley and many thanks!

  

Rush and Savage do have something in Common

They were both booted off MSM TV shows as they tried to transition their "popularity" to the TV screen.

In retrospect, it was a MSM hit job on both......the MSM's "They can't handle the TRUTH" or anything that is not politically Correct....

Unless you're a Comedian.....Savage as a Comedian, would be Booked on "Blue collar Tour" and have DVD's released.   But as a Serious person of Radio Talk.....MSM can't handle them.

Cunningham just proved his Political correct non-acceptance via McCain's apology.  MSM enforces (tries to) political correctness, Rush and company violate the MSM rules. 

No group of people have more

No group of people have more hostility and hate embedded within their souls than that of the liberal.  I have spent the last two days researching m3diamatters.org and da1lyk0s.com and you would not believe the hatred that is spewed on those sites.

(yes I spell them differently because I don't want to give them free credit for the search-engines) 

Rush Limbaugh PALES in comparison when it comes to hate-mongering. 

The reason that liberal

The reason that liberal halfwit, Ward Sloane, thought Bill Buckley was so much more tolerable than Savage or even Limbaugh has nothing to do with their relative Conservatism.  It has to do with their effect.  Liberals welcome Conservatives like Buckley.  The reason Liberals do not welcome Limbaugh and Savage is simple:  Limbaugh and Savage are able to communicate Conservative ideology and philosophy to the masses in ways that are both interesting and effective.  They evangelize new Conservative voters.  In Liberal parlance, they are "Hate Mongers", Liberal code words for effective Conservative evangelists.  

Buckley, in spite of his great intellect, or perhaps because of it, is about as interesting to the common man as watching paint dry.  Liberals love WFB, because he was no threat to them.  Limbaugh, in contrast, contributed greatly to their loss of power.

NL.... Absolutely

NL....

Absolutely beautifully well put...brilliant.

Liberals loved WFB, not

Liberals loved WFB, not because of his ideology.  It was the other "I" word:  intelligence.  Something Limbaugh is sorely lacking. 

Buckley didn't speak to the common man,  but it doesn't mean he was boring.  If you ever saw him you'd agree.  Limbaugh, on the other hand--speaks to the lowest common denominator and appeals to people's most basic knee-jerk emotions,  while Buckley would pop your skull and feed your brain to you and you'd lick your chops and ask for more. 

...Earth to gb...Earth to

...Earth to gb...Earth to gb...

Don't go against him BT.

Don't go against him BT. Apparently, he's the arbiter of acceptable conservative commentary.

You may have watched

You may have watched Buckley, but it sounds like you don't listen to Limbaugh. Explain which common denominator you speak of. I think his positions are well thought out most of the time and I hardly have knee jerk reactions to them. If you are suggesting Rush is not intelligent, you'll have a rough road ahead of you making that point.

surro... LOL! Oh

surro...

LOL!

Oh believe me...gb will make an attempt...he has before..

He's just trollin' around...as usual.

Enjoy though....it can be amusing at times.

I have and do

I have and do (occasionally) listen to Rush.  Have you ever watched Firing Line? You just can't put Limbaugh in the same class as Buckley. Go to youtube and watch WFB and tell me-- other than a core viewpoint--these two are cut from the same cloth.   While I didn't alway agree with his politics Buckley had so much more integrity there's simply no comparison.

Integrity?

Are you referring to Rush’s addiction with pain killing drugs? His forthrightness about that I would say was exemplary, as were his efforts to deal with it.

But it is encouraging that you seem to think integrity is important. So how do you feel about the MSM daily spiking stories and facts which might be construed as running counter to its preferred perception of the world, and in doing so, aiding and abetting criminality, tyranny, and terrorism around the world?

Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.

What makes you think I had

What makes you think I had never met Buckley?  As it happens, I have met and conversed with both Bill & Jim Buckley way back when Jim Buckley was Senator James Buckley of New York, probably the last time that state ever had a decent senator, certainly light years ahead of the two rats they have now.

As far as your opinions of Limbaugh, I dare say he would mop the floor with you in a debate.  I think he would have held his own against Buckley had they been is any serious philosophical disagreement.  Limbaugh is a no less imposing  debater than Buckley was.   Better, he can reach the common man. 

It is the common man who has the votes, and it is the common man who is so often deceived by morally and philosphically bankrupt Liberal arguments.  Buckley for all of his intellect did little or nothing to win this all-important contest for the mind of the common man.

If WFB had been effective, Liberals would trash mouth him just like they do everybody else they disagree with.

Radio talk show host

Radio talk show host Smerconish (sp) can go straight to you know where...he just said he wants McCain to have it out with Limbaugh and the conservatives on Matthews show....

Buchanan thought the opposite.

Matthews says McCain can pick up three votes to the one conservative vote he loses...

Precious eh?

BT, You're more up to speed

BT,

You're more up to speed on these guys than I. What is Smerconish exactly? Where does he come from? Is he supposed to be a liberal or conservative or a libertarian? When he's on Beck's TV show, he seems to be all over the place. Last week, on Beck, his views on Post-Fidel Cuba were incomprehensible. He seemed to be arguing for dropping the embargo, his reasoning or to what end, I'm not sure. He talked real loud...

Hi Chris... I think the

Hi Chris...

I think the first time I saw him was in Imus years ago now...I thought at first he seemed more on the conservative side of things, but as time went on when I would hear him on Imus and I think a few other shows... he kept going more and more to the middle, now I haven't a clue, I too tried to watch him when he was hosting Beck's show and when he is on there in just a segment...I can't stomach the guy...he is as bad as a RINO or a leftist anymore as far as I am concerned.

I'm pretty sure he is based in Boston...sure you can find out more if ya want to bother to google him, I don't...lol.

Nah, too much trouble. :)

Nah, too much trouble. :) Beck's guest pool seems to be getting better, but there are still some clunkers - like Smerconish.

PHILLY...

 Beck & Smerconish are friends going back to when Beck was based in Philly. Look, there are some things about Smerconish I don't agree with, but I know he is a lawyer by trade, & I know he's been fighting the idiots from the "Save Mumia" movement. He's done that for years, for no fee that I know of. He also does some fill-in work for Bill O'Reilly on The Radio Factor.

He's not my favorite by any stretch, but I can listen to him for a day or 2 every so often.

 

 

"Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise"  Mark Levin

Mr Buckley had a gift

His derision was so eloquent that liberals didn't understand that they were being insulted.

“I would like to take you seriously, but to do
so would affront your intelligence.”

 

I admit that I liked William

I admit that I liked William F. Buckley probably MORE than I like Rush Limbaugh.  HOWEVER, I like Rush Limbaugh a great deal so what does that tell you.

These men appealed to different people.  Buckley is viewed as a "blow-hard" by people like my Dad who like Limbaugh's "down-to-earth" style.  I, on the other hand, loved to read Buckley just because I could always count on learning the usage of a new word :-).  Seriously, Buckley used some of the most complex grammar there is in the English language.  Not sure if this made him brilliant, but it made him interesting.

Question for Sloane

Y'know, Mr. Sloane, Buckley had ample opportunity to repudiate Limbaugh if Rush had taken that much of a departure from the Buckley brand of conservatism. Instead, Buckley was a mentor to Limbaugh and apparently had a fairly close relationship with him.

On the other hand, Katie is a huge drop in quality and gravitas from Cronkite. Cronkite was biased too, but his brand of journalism had much more substance than today's CBS News.

When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.

They'll never get it.

"CBS News Washington Producer." Could there be another title that just screams "out of touch dinosaur?"

First of all, comparing Buckley to Limbaugh is akin to comparing Leonard Bernstein to Elvis Presley. Sure, they were both made music, but Elvis had the moves. The genius of people like Rush (if I can push the music metaphors a little more) is that he was able to take the complex compositions of Buckley and add some toe-tapping, finger snapping rhythms. Any one who has ever heard Rush or Sean or Laura understands this but not Mr. "CBS News Washington Producer." No, no. Why bother listening to so called "hate mongers" when you can just skim whatever nonsense is posted about them on Media Matters.

Second, Savage (not my favorite) has been savaging the Bush administration for years. Did you know that, Mr. Sloane? Of course not. Especially when it doesn't fit into this dumb assed dissertation.

Go back to your laptop, your latte, and the continued conceit that giggly Katie Couric is the face of hard hitting, "objective" television journalism.

tc... Hear! Hear! I

tc...

Hear! Hear!

I agree with every single priceless word.

The first time I heard of Mr. Buckley's

The first time I heard of Mr. Buckley was in the back pages of a book written in the early 1960's naming him as one of the most dangerous men on the right.

Apparently, the liberal-fascists want us to forget how they attempted demonize and marginalize him, now that the offer false praise for the Great Man and all he has accomplished while trashing his children like Rush.  

Why just tonight blow-dried Brian Williams was blathering that Buckley had paid dearly for his support of certain people and statements.  So the liberal drumbeat continues even now.

What A Load

Ward Sloane and his ilk think every word every conservative has ever uttered is hate speech, and just plain evil.  Separating out WFB as not being part of conservatism is disingenuous - no, wait, it is a god**** lie!

Sloane et al hated WFB as much as they hate Limbaugh and O'Reilly, and George W. Bush, and you name 'em.

Anyone who doesn't see through the liberal quest for demonizing their enemies and dominating America isn't paying attention.

Sloane is politically

Sloane is politically correct.  Therefore, anything that Sloane disagrees with is politically incorrect.  Sloane's standard for "Hate Speech"  is the utterance of anything that is politically incorrect, regardless of its truth.  Therefore, anything that Sloane disagrees with is fair game to labeled as 'Hate Speech'.

If this guy had more political insight...

..he'd realize that Bill O'Reilly isn't a political conservative, at least not in the vain of WFB and Rush Limbaugh. He's better described as a right-leaning populist.

However, according to the MSM, ANYONE who is close or slightly over the center to the right is lumped in as a filthy conservative.

"filthy conservative"

Don’t you mean “right-wing conservative”? With them it is essentially one word.

Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.

TALK RADIO CONSWERVATIVES ARE ALL FRAUDS!!

CHARLIE  DON,T DEGRADE THE SPIRIT OF, MR.BUCKLEY. He was on a debate program that was on, PBS. A NON COMMERCIAL ENTITY, Limbo, Hannity, Ingraham ARE NOTHING MORE BUT COMMERCIAL SHILL,S. Limbaugh has no guest but sabotages them thru soundbites and clips of previous statement,s. He is also a coward to go mano e mano on any other show to debate, not for the setting of the issues straight but because he can,t get a %, of the gate. WITH HIM IT,S ALL MONEY AS WITH  ALL THE OTHER RETHREADS. They all sound like broken record,s and I, believe they cause more harm then good!! And believe me my friends i HAVE VOTED AND AM A REGERSTED REPUBLICAN IN, NEW JERSEY. 

NEW JERSEY? That explains

NEW JERSEY?

That explains alot. 

"Abstain from McCain"

I'm from New Jersey

Hey! McCain's biggest foe (Free Stinker) is from New Jersey !

;-)

 

Pledge to not support RINOs ever again!

Free... Me too. I lived

Free...

Me too. I lived in Oakland, Suffern, and Browns Mills NJ. Then at 20 years of age I moved to the south. 

"Abstain from McCain"

Oakland? We were

Oakland?

We were practically neighbors!! (Grew up in Kinnelon)

 

Pledge to not support RINOs ever again!

Kinnelon. I dated a girl

Kinnelon. I dated a girl from there. I can't remember her name but I remember everything else about her. Wow, I had forgotten all about her. 

"Abstain from McCain"

CT


Kinnelon. I dated a girl from there.

I'm so sorry for you. ;-)

 

 

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Free... Don't be, she was

Free...

Don't be, she was a knockout! Too bad she only went out with me because I had a car. Actually, I could have cared less, all I know is she looked good snuggled up next to me in the front seat. 

"Abstain from McCain"

CT

I'm guessing Fayson Lakes, not Smoke Rise?

 

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Free... Now your really

Free...

Now your really testing my memory. Smoke Rise rings a bell.

The only two things I can remember, other than what she looked like, was that her father was a cop, and there was a great parking spot not 5 minutes from her house. 

"Abstain from McCain"

Parking? LOL!

Ah yes. There are a lot of great "parking spots" in and near Kinnelon . . .

Attack of the Garden State Trolls

Hey STANISZ

Welcome. We don't get too many "seminar posters" these days.

Next time, try posting something you thought up yourself, instead of what DailyKOS or RINOs-R-US tells you to say & think.

 

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Free Stinker... Hey, I

Free Stinker...

Hey, I was at a RINO's-R-Us store today. All they had in stock was McCain posters. 

"Abstain from McCain"

The Huckabee Callendars

LOL!

The Huckabee Callendars are all on Back Order. ;-)