ABC Champions Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton 'Dream Ticket'

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ABC on Friday night decided to devote an entire story to speculating about what is supposedly “the talk of the town” -- a potential Democratic “Dream Ticket” of Clinton and Obama or Obama and Clinton. With “Dream Ticket?” on screen, anchor Charles Gibson set up the piece by pointing out how, during the debate on CNN the night before, Clinton and Obama “were asked if they might run together -- one for President, the other for Vice President.” Gibson insisted: “It has been on many people's minds.”

In the subsequent story, Jake Tapper asserted that with a black man or white woman “poised to make history,” there is “one way to top it.” He then played a clip of Wolf Blitzer asking during the debate: “Would you consider an Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama ticket going down the road?” Maintaining “the possibility is the talk of the town,” Tapper backed his supposition by highlighting the belief of his colleague, ex-Clintonista George Stephanopoulos, who predicted: “Because they're both fighting this out through Super Tuesday, I think the chances are better than ever before.” Challenged by Diane Sawyer to a bet in the clip Tapper played from Good Morning America, Stephanopoulos took her up: “Absolutely. I'll bet if she gets the nomination, she picks him.”

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In an earlier NewsBusters posting, the MRC's Scott Whitlock noted how in a Friday Good Morning America piece Kate Snow raised the “dream ticket.” Later in the program, Scott also noticed, Stephanopoulos blurted out “the dream ticket” when Diane Sawyer raised the possibility of “a Barack Obama/Hillary Clinton ticket, or Clinton/Obama ticket.” The GMA exchange, from which Tapper excerpted for his story later in the day:

DIANE SAWYER: And the moment where it was a question about would there be a Barack Obama/Hillary Clinton ticket, or Clinton/Obama ticket.

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: The dream ticket.

SAWYER: The dream ticket. What do you think? This is never going to happen, ever, ever.

STEPHANOPOULOS: That's what I've been thinking for most of the last year. That's exactly what I've been thinking. That it's too much change for the country. But, now, because this has gone on so long, because they're both fighting this out through Super Tuesday, I think the chances are better than ever before. I think, they're much better if Hillary Clinton gets the nomination. I think she's going to be under tremendous pressure to pick Obama. I think he'll be under a little less pressure if he gets the nomination.

SAWYER: Want to bet?

STEPHANOPOULOS: Absolutely.

SAWYER: All right. Let's bet. Okay.

STEPHANOPOULOS: No, no, no. What I'll bet is if she gets the nomination, she picks him.

SAWYER: How about that? Let's bet big here. Okay?

Friday's NBC Nightly News didn't bring up the “dream ticket” and CBS's Katie Couric held herself to this short Evening News item:

But after all the campaign bitterness, could Clinton and Obama wind up on the same ticket? A Clinton aide told our Jim Axelrod don't rule it out as long as she's at the top of the ticket. The Obama campaign said "forget it, he's running for President, not Vice President."

The MRC's Brad Wilmouth corrected the closed-captioning against the video to provide this transcript of the February 1 World News story:

CHARLES GIBSON: Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama debated last night, as you may know. And despite the fact they've been highly critical of one another, they were on their best behavior last night. And then they were asked if they might run together -- one for President, the other for Vice President. It has been on many people's minds. Was it on theirs? Here's Jake Tapper.

JAKE TAPPER: The image was striking -- a black man, a white woman. One of them poised to make history. Both bringing in tens of thousands of new voters. And there's one way to top it.

CNN'S WOLF BLITZER, DURING DEBATE: Would you consider an Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama ticket going down the road?

BARACK OBAMA CLIP #1: Well, obviously, there's a big difference between those two.

OBAMA CLIP #2: I think her service to this country has been extraordinary.

HILLARY CLINTON: Well, I have to agree with everything Barack just said.

TAPPER: The possibility is the talk of the town.

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS, ON FRIDAY'S GMA: Because they're both fighting this out through Super Tuesday, I think the chances are better than ever before.

DIANE SAWYER ON GMA: Want to bet?

STEPHANOPOULOS on GMA: Absolutely. I'll bet if she gets the nomination, she picks him.

TAPPER: Choosing a running mate is, of course, very complicated. It's not as if there's a vice presidential match.com, where Obama would sit down and choose a left-leaning, white woman, who brings experience and New York, a state he'd win anyway. Or Clinton would pick an African-American male, with grass roots enthusiasm and Illinois, a state she'd win anyway. More importantly, the smiles and chivalry and hugs on display for voters last night belie serious tensions between the two candidates.

DONNA BRAZILE, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: There's a lot of blood on the floor. And clearly, you can disinfect. You can mop it up. You cannot ignore the fact that there's been a vigorous debate within the Democratic Party.

TAPPER: JFK made peace with his primary opponent and eventual VP, LBJ. George H.W. Bush assailed Reaganomics, then came on board as Reagan's number two. Enemies uniting for mutual political gain -- as American as apple pie. Jake Tapper, ABC News, Washington.

—Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center


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I don't see the liberal bias here.

This is true, if the there was a Obama/Clinton ticket, it would be a Liberal dream ticket. If Obama wins the nomination he does not necesarily need Clinton, but if it is Vice Versa and Clinton gets the nod, I bet she picks Obama.

I am not saying they will make a great President and Vice President, but they would be hard to beat in a general election especially with McCain or Romney. According to many people on this site, there will be many conservatives staying home come election day.

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It's definitely interesting

It's definitely interesting the fracturing of the GOP that McCain's latest success has caused. No one candidate seems to have the broad appeal needed for a general election win.

Exactly bal,glad we can

Exactly bal,glad we can agree on something, for the msm, mission almost accomplished.

 "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

                   - Ben Kenobi on  Liberals, and the MSM.

                               " The Cake is a lie."   

So why do you think the MSM

So why do you think the MSM accomplished it's mission this time as opposed to the previous two presidential elections?

bal, it's not like they

bal, it's not like they didn't break thier neck's or pull out all the stop's trying, maybe the "third times the charm".

I will never forget Brokaw's reaction when Florida was called for Gore and then changed to Bush, classic.

 "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

                   - Ben Kenobi on  Liberals, and the MSM.

                               " The Cake is a lie."   

Yeah Bal

I wonder if McCain ends up with the nomination, how people on this site will react. Obviously there will the usual finger pointing toward the msm which is to be expected, but I am more interested in seeing how many members will actually be giving support to McCain if the gets the nomination.

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I assure you Shawn I wont'

I assure you Shawn I wont' be one of them, hell I'll even snap a cell phone shot for you of me voting for Barack or Hill.

When some on this site awhile back suggested McCain was a traitor at the Hanoi Hilton, I was one of his staunchest defender's, however he is a political traitor in the eyes of most on the right, one I will never vote for.

 "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

                   - Ben Kenobi on  Liberals, and the MSM.

                               " The Cake is a lie."   

Wow Blazer

Even though I do not agree with many people on this site, it would be sad for me to see the fire leave Newsbusters. If McCain wins the nomination, It seems there might be sense of defeatism and to hope for the best in 2012? Will debate be more toward winning back the house? Like I said it will be very interesting for Newsbusters if McCain gets the nomination. Hell even Ann Coulter said would rather vote for Hillary

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Hope for the best Shawn?

Hope for the best Shawn? Socialism, or Socialism lite? Kinda like shooting Heroin or taking Methodone in my opinion. Either way, McCain would be nothing but a perpetual slide to the left if he's elected, with a Dem candidate picking up where he left off in 2012', how's that hoping for the best ? The GOP probably would never recover and it would usher in the age of European style socialism for us.

If you ween conservatives off of conservatism for the sake of keeping an (R) in the Whitehouse, before long it will be hard to know just what the hell conservatism is.

 "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

                   - Ben Kenobi on  Liberals, and the MSM.

                               " The Cake is a lie."   

blazer

I have heard many of the hard core conservatives on this site say, they hope Hillary gets voted in and things will go left, it will scare the beJesus out of all GOPers and it bring them back to their roots.

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I agree with them Shawn, but

I agree with them Shawn, but it will also scare a whole lot of Dem's too before it's all over with.

 "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

                   - Ben Kenobi on  Liberals, and the MSM.

                               " The Cake is a lie."   

Maybe if Hill and Oby win?

Maybe if Obama and Clinton get elected, about a year into their term some hard-core conservative will start running for President, along with Romney and oh say a dozen or so other Republicans start up the election cycle earlier than this last one started because they are 'fed up' with the current administration and can't wait to get another President elected.

They could pretend that the current President doesn't even exist, repeat mantras like "Worst President Ever" or even do something novel like compare them to ruthless dictators.

It could be proceeded by constant attacks on the current President's honesty and a perpetual talking down of the economy by the media.

Hmmm, now where have i heard that before?

shawn,

...but I am more interested in seeing how many members will actually be giving support to McCain if the gets the nomination.

Well, let me assure you one of those "members" shant be me. No way, no how, never, notta, no flippin' chance in H*ll, fuggitaboutit.

Looks as though I will be headed back to the Libertarian Party come Wednesday, should McClinton prevail.

Convictions, ya know. :-)

None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe

rdh

Cool RDH, I actually might joint you. That Ron Pauls an interesting backup plan. Legal drugs and Prostituion. woo hoo. According to Daniel, I will be getting a divorce soon :-)

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 Oh lawdy, there goes

 Oh lawdy, there goes Shawn with that sex thing again. Dont' know about the drug's but hell if you buy the beer, I'll buy the hooker.

 Just kidding.

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

                   - Ben Kenobi on  Liberals, and the MSM.

                               " The Cake is a lie."   

Shame on you blazer

You mean Hookers with a plural right? I'm Liberal but not that liberal ;-)

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ROTFLMFAO !!!!!!!  "You

ROTFLMFAO !!!!!!!

 "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

                   - Ben Kenobi on  Liberals, and the MSM.

                               " The Cake is a lie."   

shawn, LMAO!

Well, I am rather hoping the libertarians will shun Ron Paul, not so much for his domestic agenda, as I have no real issues with that, but his isolationism, which concerns me greatly.

I actually might joint you...

Jezzzzz make sure you bring enough to, ahhh, share! LOL!

None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe

rdh

puff puff give man, don't screw up the rotation.

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shawn,

LMAO!

None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe

I could go for Libertarian

I could go for Libertarian party if not for the drug thing and the current war.

I understand that it’s all about civil liberties and personal freedom, but we have to win the war we are in, and as the Father of 2 kids (now grown up) I was always worried about drugs. (speaking of my kids, my future son in law called and asked me permission to marry my daughter.) I know I always liked this guy!

 

I think all of us are feeling just like Reagan, We did not leave the party- the party left us!!

 

 

 

 

These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc. Ronald Reagan- 40th Anniversary of D-Day

Unless something insane

Unless something insane happens, like McCain picking Romney, or as was suggested today, Rick Santorum, I'd have a real hard time voting for McCain.

Of course not Shawn

Of Course there's no "bias" here.  Nothing to see here, move along now.

Hey what was the "dream ticket" in 04?  McCain/Kerry.

Now it's Obama/Clinton.

Whose "dream ticket is it?  

Surely not the majority of Americans.

But you can bet those in the Media think it's a Dream.

You can see the glow in their eyes.

There are no "Rock Stars" or "Dream Tickets" to be found in the Republican Party, and I am not just talking about  this particular election cycle.

Realize that Huckabee did what Howard Dean could not do, and he got about 1/10 the publicity for it.

Howard Dean was heralded from every MSM perch possible as the trail blazer, et al.  

Sure Huckabee got a little bit of media adulation AFTER he won Iowa.

But the media gave Dean all the attention BEFORE Iowas and helped catapult him into front runner status.  They loved him but realized they had to throw him overboard because he was a sore loser.

IT's time's like this the media bias is palpable because you can see how excited the press get.

They get excited politically in two different ways, one is when they succeed in influencing the populace by promoting a liberal democrat and the second is when they discourage conservative republicans by constantly reporting bad news or using negative headlines.

exlib

If Obama and Clinton would joint forces, they would be very hard to stop and both have very loyal followings. That is why many people are saying it will be a dream ticket.

Kerry/ McCain would have been a dream ticket because it would have been almost unprecedented for Dem have a Goper as his running mate.

I would say Reagan in his day, was very much a Rock Star, he had a fierce following and he destroyed Mondale.

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Well, let's be real Shawn,

Well, let's be real Shawn, while Kerry was doing his whole " reminiscent of Ghengis Khan" spiel on Capital Hill , McCain was having rubber hoses jammed up his butt and bones broken in the Hanoi Hilton. I doubt even McCain would stoop that low.

 "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

                   - Ben Kenobi on  Liberals, and the MSM.

                               " The Cake is a lie."   

The point Blazer

is not if McCain would have stooped that low, but if that would have been a dream ticket or not. Who knows if McCain accepted the Chin might be the President right now, but hindsight is 20/20

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The Chin? You mean Herman

The Chin? You mean Herman Muenster Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey? 

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

                   - Ben Kenobi on  Liberals, and the MSM.

                               " The Cake is a lie."   

I am not sure how old you

I am not sure how old you are Shawn but I was a teenager when Reagan was President.

I was a musician, with little to no interest at all in current events or politics.

So what I learned at the time about Reagan was through Osmosis, the way the majority or Americans do.

Here's what I learned:

- Reagan was an idiot.

- Only redneck and racists liked Reagan

- He was an old war-monger who we should all live in fear from because he could push the button at any time and was so old he didn't care.

- He was corrupt and didn't care about people

- He was a loose canon, and made some funny remarks, like bombing Russia.

- Did I mention he was stupid and old?

- He was a liar.

In a nutshell he was hardly considered a rock star by anyone in the media, most of whom to this day can't figure out why he was so popular, falling back on the liberal cannard that he was "just a likelable guy, although no one agreed with his policies" (Tim Russert).

I remember a story on ABC about how, when Reagan left office, he took on some "work" doing per diem lectures at business institutes and colleges.  He was summarily raked over the coals for "selling out" and "Degrading the office of President" by charging exorbinant sums of money like $100,000 for a lecture.

12 years later slick willie made 10 times that amount, did 10 times more speaking engagments and nary a word from the press about it being a negative, nay, to this day he is hailed for his "tireless service" to the community.

Shawn & exLib

Shawn, exLib is oh-so wise. Pay attention to him/her (sorry, haven't checked out your profile yet... maybe that won't tell me either :p)

But exLib is spot on about the historical MSM bias, and it not being something that only emerged in the Bush-2 era. And then spot-on regarding the above post, although I'll admit that I was even MORE indifferent to politics and the media in the 80's, and was also a teenager at the time.

But look at how they framed Reagan. Looks kinda' familiar, doesn't it, to how they frame the guy we have in the White House now. It matters not a single iota (sp?) how successful or unsuccessful a GOP POTUS is, the MSM will do everything to NOT bestow "rock-star" or "iconic" status on them post-presidency like they have Clinton, JFK, oh, and even Carter, who was the biggest disaster ever.

 

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Well hello Mr Shy

I assure you that I am male Mr. Shy. Bet you wanted to sell me some of your thongs right? You are a sick puppy.

You just admitted you did not pay attention to politics in the 80s and too busy hitting the bong to know that Reagan was a rock star. Thats right bigger than Obama and Clinton put together. This man was almost assasinated. The country did not know if he would live or die. I was watching the Superfriends on after school cartoons when he very calmly interupted the broadcase to tell the American people he was bombing Libya. He had the aura of invinsibility and nobody mess with the USA.

And how exactly did they frame Reagan?

"Suck it"

Pop Tech

shawn

i assure you the MSM dissed Reagan and his 'vodoo economics'.  He was portrayed as the actor lead about by the scripts of his handlers.  Take this from someone who voted for Carter (well he toured with the Allman Bros) Ronald Ray-guns was not treated well in the press of his day.

Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.

botg

I don't know about that botg, but no matter what the man attracted a following, he was worshipped by many as the best President ever. I never said the media didn't diss him, I said he was rock star.

"Suck it"

Pop Tech

to the rock generation

he was GUMBY

Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.

It matters not a single

It matters not a single iota (sp?) how successful or unsuccessful a GOP
POTUS is, the MSM will do everything to NOT bestow "rock-star" or
"iconic" status on them

Well, Mr. Shy, that's because they don't admire the values of working hard, accomplishing a few things and being true to your word. They are impressed by politicians coming on stage to a rock beat and techno lighting, crowds waving hands in the air and swooning, etc. Image and perception are everything. Hard work and accomplishments are for suckers.

I call that a "Scream

I call that a "Scream Ticket", which call's for another shot of some Tennessee vintage, make it a double. (shudder's)

 "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

                   - Ben Kenobi on  Liberals, and the MSM.

                               " The Cake is a lie."   

I heard Hillary suggested

I heard Hillary suggested they should meet at Fort Marcy Park and flip a coin to decide who will be vice-prez.

 "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

                   - Ben Kenobi on  Liberals, and the MSM.

                               " The Cake is a lie."   

Nightmare Ticket

pardon my French again.........
But does ABC contemplate what this bitch Hillary would be like with all figures over her gone or what it would be like for Obama with her under him?

That entire ticket would be disaster as Obama is 60's flower child goodness mixed with the black panthers and Hillary is 60's wanked out crazy bitch on PMS with a load gun.

It is Hillary's way or no way.........that doesn't work in the White House.

But bring it on as Hispanics will not vote for tha ticket, old white guys will not vote for that ticket, Kos loons will not vote for it if Hillary is on top and that pretty well takes 15% off.

McCain sitting on 47% with 15% more gives him 62% and that spells landslide for the GOP. That also spells the end of affirmative action politicians ever getting into the DNC for 40 years.

That is a nightmare ticket for the DNC and everyone knows it. Perhaps though they will be the first duo running for president from jail when Patrick Fitzgerald indicts and prosecutes them.

 

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Who would oppose a dream ticket?

I admit, I also have some dreams for a ticket. If it turns out to be McCain, I'd love to see Stormin' Norman Schwartzkopf as the GOP VP. He probably wouldn't do it, because you can't have two military figures on the same ticket, but we're talking dreams for now. Can you imagine Schwartzkopf on stage against either Obama or Hillary in the VP debate? The rock star would look like a fool, and Hillary would be exposed for the anti-military bigot she really is.

I believe that the neither Hillary nor Obama have any substance. They're both basically one-term senators whose careers have been built on being liberal activist lawyers. Since they've only faced each other until now, their mutual lack of substance hasn't hurt them. But if you put them up against substantial people, who've been through tough fights, and who've displayed real leadership, with real executive experience, then they'll collapse like Looney Toon cartoons.

Frankly, my dream VP is Condoleeza Rice. Actually, before any of the candidates started lining up, I was hoping she'd run. I'd have supported her.

KC can you imagine?

Can you imagine the amount of racist filth that would be directed at Rice if she ran for POTUS?

For all the talk on the Demo side about how awesome they are it'd be the exact opposite for Condi.

There would be anti-woman, anti-black ads run but women and blacks as well the media would mercilessly put on liberal activist women and blacks to trash her and paint her as Aunt Jemima.

On second thought, if she could stand it, it would probably be a great example of liberal intolerance and hypocrisy.  People might just catch on, be disgusted and vote for her.

Maybe

Yeah, but then again, Condi has put up with a lot of crap already.

I just love the idea of Obama waxing poetic with all the pleasant slogans that sound like policy, and then seeing Condi bring him crashing down to earth. He'd be exposed as a fraud. And when Hillary tosses off her snide remarks and brags about how she could break glass ceilings, Condi can just stand there, because she wouldn't have to say anything. Foreign policy experience? Fugeddabouddit. I'd pay to see that debate.

Condi wouldn't even be able

Condi wouldn't even be able to get the black vote, because they don't consider her an "authentic" black. But then again, blacks don't vote Republican anyway, so what would that matter?

 

→ motherbelt

They did almost exclusively until they felt they were snubbed by Barry Goldwater.

Hillary is doing the same thing today.

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I was originally looking

I was originally looking for Allen/Rice. But..

I still think he should have run, hell Edwards did and he has not done crap in his political life.

 

 

 

 

These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc. Ronald Reagan- 40th Anniversary of D-Day

ExLib...Condi would not be attacked

With Condi as a VP, the MSM could NOT attack her....and leave Obama's color out of it.  It would be too obvious to the average Citizen that the MSM Bias against Republicans was out in the open. 

It would be the first opportunity to take Race out of the Race. 

Heck, Obama could do the Republicans one UP, and pick a Black or Mexican Vice President.

If Tom Brady winns the Superbowl, he should be the Republicans running mate.....an established winner. 

Here's The Ticket

You know, no one seems to be thinking about the obvious. Perhaps it is too horrifying to contemplate.

Hillary is going to pick her husband as her running mate.

When that happens, I will vote for a yellow-dog Republican before I will stay home and watch THEM win.

What do YOU think of this concept?

The Constitution already prevents it

Bill can't run. The 25th amendment already prevents him. Of course, no matter who Hillary picks, she'll claim that the VP will have a lot of help (wink wink).

It will be Al Gore.

It will be Al Gore.

22 not 25

You had me worried there, KC, I thought I didn't know my Amendments any more. 25 doesn't prevent it:

Section 1. In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.

Section 2. Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

Section 3. Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.

Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

But the 22nd sort of does, although it might not hold up in court:

Section 1.
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of President more than once.

Obama/Clinton,

Obama/Clinton, Clinton/Obama, what's the difference? Who was it above that said Socialism, or Socialism lite?

Would you rather be shot or stabbed? Nibbled to death by a duck or a goose?

Obama's team said "Forget it; he's running for President, not Vice President"

But no one ever admits they're hoping for the second spot. Even Bill Richardson didn't say that out loud.

I don't imagine either one wants to be #2, but frankly I can see Obama in that role more than Her Royal Clintoness. He could be convinced that he's young; his turn will come next. Not her...this is her only shot. The party will have zero use for her eight years from now. It would be like nominating Ted Kennedy now. Besides, her ego is simply too massive to accept that. She played second fiddle in her husband's administration; she's not settling for Veep. She'll decide she can "do more good in the Senate (forever).

If they ran on the same ticket, it probably wouldn't be the first time the President and Veep couldn't stand each other. Wasn't LBJ pushed on JFK in 1960? But I think HRC would pick Richardson to shore up the Hispanic vote. But you know, Democrats don't practice "identity politics" do they?

I just think it's funny how the tables turned....the "inevitable" one now is John McCain.

BTW, it's strange how, everyone talks about the woman and the black guy. Even Dick Morris says if Obama doesn't win on Super Tuesday, it will say more about "who we are" as a country than about who he is. We are racist and just can't help ourselves.

Why isn't anyone saying if Romney doesn't win, it's because we are anti-Mormon, or we're ageist if McCain doesn't get it? Or how about the Bob Dole "It's his turn" thing with McCain (he lost out last time and he deserves it, dammit!)?

Because the media don't care why Romney loses and McCain wins, as long as it works out that way.

I'm just sick of the whole bunch (the media, that is). Hillary Clinton says "it's not a game." Of course it is; or she wouldn't be polling on a daily basis. It's all about the machine, the message, the "ground game," the focus groups. The Super Bowl of politics.

Can you tell I'm a little "down" this AM? :-(

Update: Speaking of "Bob Dole" syndrome, after I left the site I was surfing and came across this: Bob Dole Rides Again

MB, Hang in there, I feel

MB,

Hang in there, I feel the same way. We are standing on the tracks and the Dem. Train is headed our way, and the RNC is too stupid to see it.

I think I need to restock my old hunting back pack, its going to be a long hike in the wilderness.

Thanks Bush, Rove, and congress. You must be soooooo proud.

 

 

 

 

These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc. Ronald Reagan- 40th Anniversary of D-Day

But the 22nd sort of does,


But the 22nd sort of does, although it might not hold up in court:

Section 1.
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more
than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or
acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some
other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of
President more than once.

It only says elected to the office of President. Nothing about VP.

Now a case could be made that should something happen to the President, the Vice President would have to take over. However, in that case, it would not be a case of "elected" it would be "succeeding." It does not say can't "serve" as President more than 2 terms it says "elected."

Sorry, I don't see any real way Bill could be prevented from being VP.

Agreed

I agree, and that was my point all along. Hillary could choose Bill as VP and I don't think anyone could stop it.

I hope no one thinks that the Clintons aren't seriously considering this move. They are, because no matter how deeply Bill sticks his feet in his mouth right now, he is still the leftist's "Ronald Reagan" forever. To give them the opportunity to vote for him again would be a "dream come true" for all of the leftist world.

AND, it would take every one of us on the right to get out there, hold our noses, and vote for whomever gets the nomination, yellow-dog or not, because it will take massive turnout on the right to defeat that Nightmare Ticket.

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Never happen, here's why

Imagine Hillary spending every day looking over her shoulder making sure Bill wasn't planning a return to power. 

Oh, what am I saying.  He'd never entertain such a thought. 

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Got me

You're absolutely right. It wasn't the 25th, and I mentioned the wrong one. Good catch.

However, I still think it is constitutionally impossible for Bill to become VP. Last year or so, I remember this topic being debated. I recall that several constitutional scholars had dismissed it. It has to do with the qualifications for office. The qualifications to become Vice President are exactly the same as for president. Remember, originally, the Vice President was simply the runner-up in the presidential election. How could that be possible if the Vice President had different qualifications than the president? Therefore, because he's disqualified for president, Bill is automatically disqualified for vice president. Of course, I may be wrong. Maybe some lawyers, if they happen to see this thread, would offer a more informed opinion than mine.

On the other hand, I seriously doubt that the Clintons, if elected, would care about titles anwyay. They would simply work as if Bill was co-president.

It's old (2006) but Volokh

It's old (2006) but Volokh Conspiracy has a pretty thorough analysis of the constitutional issues involved. He comes to the conclusion that it's a real possibility...constitutionally speaking.

Dream Ticket

Will not happen. Hillary will not share the spotlight with the first black VP and Barack does not need Hillary's negatives. He also does not want Bill around his White House. 

Awww hell why not TRH. She

Awww hell why not TRH. She shared, or should I say she was overshadowed by "the first black president" for eight year's, how would that be any different ? Sound's like par for the course in her case.

 "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

                   - Ben Kenobi on  Liberals, and the MSM.

                               " The Cake is a lie."   

Yes Toni Morrison did

Yes Toni Morrison did annoint Bill the first black president but Hillary was the player behind the curtain. This time she will be out in front and will not want to share that spotlight with anyone. Especially, a first.

 

Hillary might take Barack,

I agree Obama wouldn't be Hill's VP. She might think it a great idea, but I don't see any way he would want to be tied to the Clintons.  He saw what happened to Al Gore....

If this actually happens, a

If this actually happens, a Hillary and Obama ticket, I might just have to take up drinking.  Maybe I could move to Switzerland for a couple years, until they are done with their term?  Maybe I will try some medical marijuana?  Oh gosh...

Hitlary and Osama was the idea all along

Didn't everyone figure this out when the race started?

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If we really had a choice.

Dream ticket, Cosby, yes Bill and Gingritch. If you want to write your vote in, please nominate your best freind. Thanks,,,, I am your best freind, right?

Good idea's mixed with good manners

 

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Obama/Clinton ticket

Leaves someone whose Life Insurance will be Cancelled.

First President to committ Suicide.........followed by Bill Clinton as a VP appointment to replace the Vacancy of the VP moving up.

 

 

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Lol.....that was good!!

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