Insisting he's “not a conspiracy theorist,” Bill Maher, on the Friday night season debut of his HBO show, suggested that because Republicans prefer to run against Hillary Clinton than Barack Obama they engineered her victory in New Hampshire's Democratic primary. Later on Real Time with Bill Maher, former ABC News reporter/anchor Catherine Crier claimed “you have to work really hard to find a truly liberal” politician and “Hillary Clinton and John Edwards and Barack Obama are not raging liberals.”
Maher opened the panel discussion, with Tony Snow, Crier and Mark Cuban, by observing how he found it “odd” that polls showed Obama ahead in New Hampshire, yet Clinton won, and “it does bother me that a private company runs the polling machines and that only they certainly seem to know what went on.” A couple of minutes later, Maher noted that “in crime they always ask...'who profits?'” Looking at Snow, he then pondered:
Who profits from the Hillary victory? They don't want to run against Obama. Your party does not want to run against him. They want to run against Hillary Clinton and now they have a race with her in it.
A bemused Snow called Maher's reasoning “totally wacko!” and “completely wacked” as Maher contended Republicans have thrown races before: “They did it to Ed Muskie.”
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From the Friday, January 11 Real Time with Bill Maher on HBO produced in Los Angeles, first aired at 11 PM EST:
BILL MAHER: I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but it does strike me odd that Barack Obama was up so much in New Hampshire one day before and that the exit polls, a lot of them say that people still voted for him as the winner. I'm not saying something was funny going on there, but it does bother me that a private company runs the polling machines and that only they certainly seem to know what went on....
I'm just saying, you know, in crime they always ask qui bono, 'who profits?' Who profits from the Hillary victory? They don't want to run against Obama. Your party does not want to run against him. They want to run against Hillary Clinton and now they have a race with her in it.
TONY SNOW, FORMER WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: So, Republicans are throwing the election to Hillary Clinton?
MAHER: Well, they've done that before.
SNOW: Your hair's on fire. This is totally wacko!
MAHER: I'm not saying it's true.
SNOW: It's completely wacked!
MAHER: Woe, woe. They did it to Ed Muskie.
MARK CUBAN: Let's just say this: Nobody knows, right? Because who's in charge of the companies building the machines...
Crier, near the end of the hour after Matt Taibbi, of Rolling Stone, had joined the panel:
In this country, most politicians -- liberal and conservative, Democrat, Republican -- are in a relatively small box. I mean, you have to work really hard to find a truly liberal, and maybe not quite so hard right now to find somebody a little more adamant on the right. But Hillary Clinton and John Edwards and Barack Obama are not raging liberals.
—Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center
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About two weeks ago I
January 12, 2008 - 03:01 ET by Captain RepusAbout two weeks ago I discovered a remarkably simple way to improve the quality of my life, and save $15.99 a month (coincidentally just enough to buy a 30 pack of Coors Lite). I cancelled my subscription to HBO.
Not only do I no longer have to watch Maher, I don't have to watch 24/7 images of hate-filled comics, saggy titted sluts and made for tv pornography and gay agenda.
Life is good. Life is very good.
good move Captain, I did it
January 12, 2008 - 04:28 ET by USA4freedomgood move Captain, I did it almost two years ago. My wife told me: why do you pay to have someone piss you off every night. That was just too logical to ignore... I liked the Sopranos but not enough to pay for this POS.
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I never signed up for HBO
January 12, 2008 - 07:22 ET by motherbeltI never signed up for HBO to begin with!! How's that, you guys?? LOL! Look at all the money I saved!
I get more than enough of if from here!
As for Crier's comment that
“you have to
work really hard to find a truly liberal” politician and “Hillary
Clinton and John Edwards and Barack Obama are not raging liberals.”
HAHAHAHAHAcoughcoughHAHAHAHA(hic)HAHAHAHA(choke choke) HAHAHA.....cough...HAHAHA...gasp.....HAHAHA.hahahahahaha....phew!
OK, I'm all right now............and it's time to go find my damn duct tape!!
Come on, guys, that's not fair this early in the AM!!!!!
mother, We don't have any
January 12, 2008 - 11:09 ET by msh1973mother,
We don't have any type of cable in our household, too much junk. I wish you could pick they channels that you want; Disney, HGTV, DIY, FoxNews, and the like. Perhaps that will come in the future.
She dates Ted Turner
January 12, 2008 - 11:33 ET by PamCut her some slack, she dates Ted..so compared to him, she is probable right :)
scratches head
January 12, 2008 - 03:04 ET by candanceSo...the GOP stole NH for Hillary but was so busy doing that they couldn't secure a win for the Republican they wanted on their own side????
Maher is an idiot (oxymoron)
January 12, 2008 - 03:18 ET by mikejBill Maher:
"I'm just saying, you know, in crime they always ask qui bono, 'who profits?' Who profits from the Hillary victory?"
Ooohhh I don't know Bill...The Clintons????..............The Democrats???? Ever heard of either one of them? Amazing! When Bush wins, the they claim the GOP stole the election. When Clinton wins they claim..THE GOP stole the election. Amazing!
Maher:
"Well, they've done that before."
Who is they Bill? You mean the Democrats have never stole an election? Should we look back at all the corruption in Chicago and places like that where the Dem's are known for busing people from district to district and raise people from the dead every election cycle to vote????
Oh wait, I forgot...that doesn't count. Democrats did it! And it's been much more verified than that some stupid ignorant half cocked story about the GOP wanting Hillary to win.
Not an oxymoron.
January 12, 2008 - 11:30 ET by dervish'Tis a pleonasm.
Hillary, Obama and Edwards
January 12, 2008 - 03:54 ET by rbosqueHillary, Obama and Edwards ARE screaming liberals if they support abortion!
Look guys, you have to use
January 12, 2008 - 03:55 ET by USA4freedomLook guys, you have to use that global warming logic.
If it’s hot: its global warming
If it’s cold: it’s global warming
If its raining: it’s global warming
If it’s a drought: it global warming
If there is not enough cheese on your frozen pizza: because its frozen makes it, global warming
If you have a freezer, to put the pizza in: it’s global warming.
If you break your tooth eating the frozen pizza: well that’s not global warming, you must be a denier and you deserve to have your teeth broken. (Hell, anyone dumb enough to eat a frozen pizza..) etc etc..
See, if it benefits Hillary and Bill it’s the Republicans
If it benefits OB, it’s the Republicans
Meanwhile,: this week, back at the Supreme Court, the Democrats and the ACLU, argue that no one should have Id to vote..
Not to mention that Dennis the Menace (D) is calling for are count!
You have to hand it to them, they have balls the size of Texas!
Good night all.
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MARK CUBAN: Let's just say
January 12, 2008 - 04:11 ET by USA4freedomMARK CUBAN: Let's just say this: Nobody knows, right? Because who's in charge of the companies building the machines...
I wish Snow would have turned to this human peace of $hit and said: so who does your lie of a movie help or in the terms of Bill: I'm just saying, you know, in crime they always ask qui bono, 'who profits?' Was it you? No? Your movie lost money? Must be the G.D. terrorist, you total piece of $hit.
This is a man that I truly think if I walked in a room with him in it I would kick his ass even before I said a word. Taking American dollars and making a film to kill Americans over seas for years to come. How do you “not” grab him by his 500 dollar shirt and plant you size 10 ½ in his pompous ass.
Leave it to HBO to have a man of this caliber on..
I think I better go to bed or dig out the duct tape.
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Crier: In this country,
January 12, 2008 - 04:23 ET by USA4freedomCrier:
In this country, most politicians -- liberal and conservative, Democrat, Republican -- are in a relatively small box. I mean, you have to work really hard to find a truly liberal, and maybe not quite so hard right now to find somebody a little more adamant on the right. But Hillary Clinton and John Edwards and Barack Obama are not raging liberals.
Hmm I wonder who does she concider raging liberals. Like that line, how did he get elected (every one I know voted against him). Idiot..
When you look at the picture several things come to mind for me, one, my brain is as big as a donut this size.
Or, body parts and casting couches.. sorry...I cant think of any other reason why she would be on.
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Look guys, you have to use that global warming logic.
January 12, 2008 - 05:09 ET by RudykerUSA4freedom writes, "...You have to hand it to them [The GW folks.], they have balls the size of Texas!"
If I may add, "And, newly acquired wealth of billions of dollars selling hocus pocus."
If one of us attempted this Ponsi scheme, we would go to the penitentary.
Why is not Henry Waxman demanding a congressional investigation into what renown meteoroligist John Coleman regards as the biggest scam ever perpetrated on the American people,:
As Rush is fond of saying:
January 12, 2008 - 04:21 ET by riff_raffAs Rush is fond of saying: "Liberals think history began when they woke up this morning". I remember Maher actually claiming at one time that he was a libertarian!
I guess Maher, Cuban, Crier, et al, don't know about the 1960 election where liberal icon JFK only got 0.2% more of the popular vote than the reviled Richard Nixon. That amounts to about 120,000 votes. I'm sure Joe Kennedy Sr. easily rounded up that many dead voters in Chicago alone.
And how come the libs only consider the election "stolen" when their candidate doesn't win? These lib talking heads need to do a little homework before they start spouting off about their Diebold-stolen-election conspiracies. If Diebold was helping to rig elections for Republicans, they sure aren't profiting much from it. Since the 2004 election, which according to Cuban they conspired to steal for GWB, their stock price has fallen almost 50%.
http://finance.yahoo...
Finally, with regards to Taibbi's comment, "...you have to work really hard to find a truly liberal...", JFK would be considered a right-wing extremist if he was running for president in 2008.
It was comical how they
January 12, 2008 - 04:27 ET by nicksmith112It was comical how they peppered Snow with the usual lefty bullet points never waiting for or debating Snow's answer. Honestly the loons couldn't expound any further on there accusation quickly changing the subject.
And how about the Rolling Stone punk. Clearly a product of the American Madrassa...opps I mean school system...lol.
I'm a refugee from the Democratic Party.
Something Fishy about NH
January 12, 2008 - 05:44 ET by Kuso JijiMaher proves you don't have to be very clever to front for the Democrats.
He is a distraction to the truth at best, and he is doing the only thing he is good at, being a distraction.
Its obvious something fishy happened in NH. Kucinich recognizes it and is paying for a statewide recount. The write in ballots went to Obamalamadingdong, the machine count went to Hillary. Normally the two reflect the same results. If anybody benefitted from a crime, it was Hillary.
Tony Snow with the 3
January 12, 2008 - 06:58 ET by well99Tony Snow with the 3 stooges.Crier the liar with two other fools.If they open their mouths you know a lie is coming out.
A Liberal By Any Other Name . . .
January 12, 2008 - 10:00 ET by NoMoreClintonsIt always amazes me how most liberals never see themselves for what they are. They always consider themselves moderate. They are truly ashamed of the term "liberal". Go figure.
Bill "I'm just sayin" Maher
January 12, 2008 - 10:13 ET by rimskyBill "I'm just sayin" Maher has a vacuum for a soul, that sucks in all manner of illogical, amoral, and senseless thoughts, ideas, theories. His existence only serves to provide a clear and stark contrast between right and wrong.
Tony Snow is such a wonderful Man. Maher can only be jealous of Mr. Snow's fine character.
Snows Character
January 12, 2008 - 15:13 ET by timzankMaher CANNOT be jealous of Snow's character, he isn't capable of recognizing character. Maher is a spineless whiner who will eventually be found dead at the bottom of the Playboy grotto, his bloodstream filled with with booze and coke.
Bill got a tin foil hat for Christmas
January 12, 2008 - 10:15 ET by RMRIf Republicans can so easily manipulate democrats into voting for their candidate, why would they worry about Obama?
Or maybe Obama got himself one ah them newfangled Republican-mojoblocking-shield-thingy. Darn!
RMR, good one, I'm glad I
January 12, 2008 - 10:37 ET by USA4freedomRMR,good one, I'm glad I had just swallowed my coffee..Hey where do I get one those Republican-mojoblocking-shield-things, I think my old one broke, I need a 2008 model.. The spell check just went: Whaaat?
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Mojoblocker
January 12, 2008 - 10:42 ET by Cool ArrowHave you checked out the specs on the MJBT-1500?
It's good at a distance of 1500 miles and lasts 3 months with four d-cell Energizers.
I ♣ My Seal
Whos the wacko?? Billy or
January 12, 2008 - 10:52 ET by charlietexasWhos the wacko?? Billy or Tony for going on the show. Mark and
Cat are both screaming liberals as is Billy. Cat maybe right from her
standing in the liberal community. That Hill and Obama are not that
liberal. But Obama IS a left wing liberal, more then Hill.
But all three of them are stinking liberals to some degree. Why
would the republicans care who is in the lead on the demo side?? All
our canidates are much better than any of theirs. I would like to
see Hillary win just to finally get rid of the Clintons once and for
all. But if Obama wins the nomination, and then lose that would tell
the democrats that they just don't have anyone to beat us. None
of the old guard, Biden or Dodd.
What really makes me mad
is the compairison of Obama to JFK. He's nothing like JFK. JFK was a
tax cutting, military loving, baby loving moderate democrat. These new
liberal democrats have always tried to turn themselves into JFK,
including Billy Clinton. The only thing he had in common with JFK
was his fooling around.
MOM
I was waiting for someone
January 12, 2008 - 15:40 ET by tracheostomyI was waiting for someone to question why Tony Snow was even there to begin with.
He's coherent, patient, and logical enough to explain why Bill's statements are whacko. . .but he knows he can't, because in order to reason with someone like Maher, you have to accept that sometimes the truth of a matter won't fit on a bumpersticker or soundbite.
So then the question remains, why did Snow even bother to participate?
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
and just to add....we also
January 12, 2008 - 10:54 ET by charlietexasand just to add....we also cancelled HBO, just because of Bill
Mahar. So, thanks to Brent for watching that piece of cra*** show for
us.
HBO is TRASH.
So, Billy Maher insists he
January 12, 2008 - 11:07 ET by Trix RabbitSo, Billy Maher insists he is not a "conspiracy theorist"? Then what he really means is this:
I'm a paranoid, drug-ingesting dolt who believes that the American government is secretly in the hands of the all-powerful racist neo-cons and the evil Jewish Zionists. I really don't know sh*t about anything and I couldn't tell the difference between a primary election and my barely functioning left testicle. But I have a show to do so I'll say anything annoying or stupid to fill up the time. So here goes.
Liberal: a power worshipper without power. George Orwell
Paint
January 12, 2008 - 11:15 ET by Ran56Maher is living proof, people who sniff paint shouldn't have children.
One whacked man
January 12, 2008 - 12:19 ET by ToddonCapeCodActually, I don't know which "man" I am referring to: Bill Maher for his crazy statement(s) or Tony Snow, for going on his show in the first place, thereby giving Maher credibility!
Mark Cuban?
January 12, 2008 - 12:29 ET by okiehawk44MARK CUBAN: Let's just say this: Nobody knows, right? Because who's in charge of the companies building the machines...
Democrats invented and controlled the use of the "butterfly ballot" in Florida and then blamed Republicans because they didn't like the results it produced in 2000.
If Democrats only lose races because of the totally illogical belief that the evil DIEBOLD company produces "black helicopter conspiracy theory" machines, why don't they pool their significant resources and build their own machines? I'm sure Hillary's financial backers from China could do this for them and quickly too.
Oh, by the way, how in the world did Cuban amass a billion dollar fortune when he can't produce a single cogent thought?
Yo Maher...you might want
January 12, 2008 - 15:21 ET by bigtimerYo Maher...you might want to realize the Clintoon Machine are involved in her sudden come from behind victory...
I am glad Fox let Crier go, I was long ago...she is nothing but a leftist herself, she wouldn't know the difference if it was drawn for her...what a piece of work they both are.
Cuban isn't even worth commenting on...
Wait a second...none of them are...
Tony Snow you are a good sane man..stay well and keep up the good fight!
"Who profits from the
January 12, 2008 - 17:15 ET by ckc1227"Who profits from the Hillary victory? They don't want to run against
Obama. Your party does not want to run against him. They want to run
against Hillary Clinton and now they have a race with her in it."
If the Republicans are capable of stealing primaries and elections because they own the machines, it doesn't matter who their opponent is, does it?
Agree Completely
January 12, 2008 - 18:17 ET by SmartypantsI thought the exact same thing. Why is it that libs cannot see the inherent contradiction of their own viewpoints. If Republicans and their supporters are so all-powerful as to be able to manipulate elections at will, why do we care who we run against? And, make no mistake, what they are suggesting would require Republicans to essentially be omnipotent.
Snow Is The Man
January 14, 2008 - 03:58 ET by MikeknaJI watched the show. It was strikingly clear that Tony Snow was a man among children during the roundtable discussions.
Period.
The left-leaning audience didn't like it, but Snow ate Cuban and Crier for lunch with simple statements of fact and his use of nuance. And he was classy as he did it.
"The shadow proves the sunshine" - Switchfoot
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