Stephanopoulos Pushes Greenspan to Agree Taxes Should Be Raised

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By Brent Baker | December 17, 2007 - 04:38 ET

On Sunday's This Week, ABC's George Stephanopoulos pressed former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan to agree on the wisdom of raising taxes. Stephanopoulos wondered “what would be wrong with letting the tax cuts for the top one percent expire?” and suggested that to “shore up” Social Security and Medicate that Congress “limit the tax cuts.”

Citing a Congressional Budget Office study, “which was just stunning to me,” Stephanopoulos recounted how “it said that in the last two years -- from 2003 to 2005 -- the increase in income for the top one percent exceeded the total income of the bottom 20 percent. Given that, what would be wrong with letting the tax cuts for the top one percent expire and plowing that money into education?” Following up, Stephanopoulos proposed: “If you have long-term problems in Medicare and then also in Social Security, wouldn't it make sense to, in addition to limiting them as I know you would like to do, to limit the tax cuts and shore up the programs in that way?” Stephanopoulos started the interview by summarizing John Edwards' claim that “average Americans are not winning in this current economy and the policies that we've been following for a long time are part of the reason.” Greenspan retorted: “His remedies will make it worse.”

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As for the contention the top one percent should be taxed more because the increase in their income exceeded the total income of the bottom 20 percent, the Tax Foundation found the wealthiest already pay far more than their fair share: “The top 1 percent of taxpayers (AGI over $364,657) earned approximately 21.2 percent of the nation's income (as defined by AGI), yet paid 39.4 percent of all federal income taxes [in 2005]. That means the top 1 percent of tax returns paid about the same amount of federal individual income taxes as the bottom 95 percent of tax returns.” See my October 30 NewsBusters posting for the Tax Foundation's analysis of IRS data.

Stephanopoulos on Sunday returned to his tax advocacy of a year ago. The January 21 NewsBusters item, “With Another Candidate, Stephanopoulos Calls for Gas Tax Hike,” recounted:

Another Democratic presidential candidate, another chance for ABC's George Stephanopoulos to push for higher taxes on energy. On Sunday's This Week, when just-announced candidate Bill Richardson outlined how his energy policy would be based on conservation and improved technology, listing how "it's going to take more efficient air conditioning, it's going to take green buildings, it's going to take fuel-efficient vehicles," Stephanopoulos jumped in: "Higher gas taxes?" The Governor of New Mexico rejected the plea from Stephanopoulos: "No, you don't have to do it with taxes. You need a conservation effort that every American participates in, inspired by the President." Stephanopoulos remained unpersuaded, proposing: "But aren't higher energy taxes the best way to get people to conserve?" On the December 3 [2006] This Week, Stephanopoulos told Iowa Governor Tom Vilsack, a then just-announced Democratic candidate for President, that "just about every expert on energy says the best way to become energy independent is to raise the price of oil and gas, to have a serious energy tax. Why not call for it?"

A transcript of the beginning of the interview with Greenspan on the December 16 This Week with George Stephanopoulos:

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: I wanted to start out with a response to Senator Edwards. You heard what he said about his defense of his populist rhetoric and his populist approach. He said average Americans are not winning in this current economy and the policies that we've been following for a long time are part of the reason.

ALAN GREENSPAN: He's correct in the fact that there is a stagnation in the middle class economic growth, but his remedies will make it worse, not better. So the critical question that confronts us is to recognize the problem, which is increasing inequality of income which I mentioned in some detail in my book and considered, in fact, a major problem which will be out for an indefinite period of time. We have to address that.

STEPHANOPOULOS: I wanted to get into that because you do talk about it a lot in the book. And there was a statistic that came out this week from the Congressional Budget Office which was just stunning to me. It said that in the last two years -- from 2003 to 2005 -- the increase in income for the top one percent exceeded the total income of the bottom 20 percent. Given that, what would be wrong with letting the tax cuts for the top one percent expire and plowing that money into education, which you think is part of the answer?

GREENSPAN: Well, the problem is fundamentally that our fiscal affairs as we reach out into the next decade are awful and, indeed, the Congressional Budget Office raised very serious alarms this week, but economists have been raising alarms for a long period of time, so I think we can't look at solutions without looking at the full context of how we're going to resolve the very large shortfall in Medicare and a lesser one in Social Security and looking at the total picture, because you just can't look at individual problems without a fuller context of where this country is going fiscally.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, in that fuller context then, if you have long-term problems in Medicare and then also in Social Security, wouldn't it make sense to, in addition to limiting them as I know you would like to do, to limit the tax cuts and shore up the programs in that way?

GREENSPAN: Well, I've always said, in fact, as soon as the budget surpluses disappeared, which was in 2002, I said my support for the tax cut was contingent and on pay go actually taking on meaning that offsetting reductions in spending or other tax adjustments be made in order to finance that specific tax cut. I still hold that true.

STEPHANOPOULOS: So in the Congress this week, and it appears like they're going to finalize it this week, fixes this patch in the alternative minimum tax, a $50 or $60 billion hit, and doesn't pay for it, increases the deficit, that's something you're against?

GREENSPAN: Yes.

STEPHANOPOULOS: That's a straight answer.

—Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center

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The solution to everything

The solution to everything is taking away someone else's money and putting it to use for you.

One of these days, a true conservative will emerge, not because he wants to, but because he HAS to.

Was it just me, or did no

Was it just me, or did no one else see the line: Spending cuts.

Tell me does that line exist in the Republican or Democrat party (other then lip service)

Our choice boils down to spend a lot or.. spend a lot more..

 

 

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I wish just once I would

I wish just once I would hear the talking heads say: I think we all should pay more taxes and just to start the ball rolling I sent Uncle Sam a check totaling half my money. 

 

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That "true conservative" is NOT Mike Huckabee

Huckabee on Taxes (Video) (1min)
Another Man From Hope. Who is Mike Huckabee? (The Wall Street Journal)

Background:

Age: 52

Education:
- Ordained to ministry Southern Baptist Convention, 1974
- B.A. Religion, Ouachita Baptist University, 1976

Military Experience:
- None

Political Experience:
- Lt. Governor of Arkansas, 1993-1996
- Governor of Arkansas, 1996-2007

Religion:
- Baptist

Fiscal Record:

Huckabee's Fiscal Record
Huckabee: The Biggest Big-Government Conservative (FOXNews)
Mike Huckabee is a Liberal (Club for Growth)
Updated Huckabee White Paper (Club for Growth)

- Immediately upon taking office he signed a sales tax hike in 1996
- He raised taxes on gasoline in 1999
- He supported an internet sales tax in 2001
- He created a $5.25 per day bed-tax on private nursing home patients in 2001
- He publicly opposed the repeal of a sales tax on groceries and medicine in 2002
- He proposed another sales take hike in 2002 to fund education improvements
- He raised taxes on cigarettes in 2003
- He opposed a congressional measure to ban internet taxes in 2003
- He allowed a 17% sales tax increase to become law in 2004
- He increased taxes in the state by more than Bill Clinton did
- He increased state spending 65.3% from 1996 to 2004
- The number of state government workers rose 20% during his tenure
- Governor Huckabee refused to pledge not to raise taxes if elected President

Tax Hike Mike

- Overall, Huckabee’s substantial tax hikes far surpassed his modest tax
cuts, with the average tax burden increasing by a whopping 47% over his
tenure.

Illegal Immigration:

Laura Ingraham: Huckabee Is A "Big Loser" On Immigration (Audio) (5min)
Huckabee Supported Scholarships for Illegal Aliens (Video) (5min)

Huckabee aid plan for illegal aliens draws 'venom, anger' (Arkansas News Bureau)
Huckabee promotes 'open door' policy at LULAC convention (Arkansas News Bureau)

Crime and Punishment:

Mike Huckabee's Clemency Record Is Under Scrutiny (FOXNews)
Why parole a monster like Green
Lois Davidson tells her story (Video) (1min)

Ethics:

Huck's gift-givers ended up in state posts
Huckabee Signed '98 Ad Urging Women to 'Graciously Submit' to Husbands

Global Warming:

Huckabee is the only Republican candidate to support the economy crippling Cap and Trade CO2 Legislation, Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) Regulation and Renewable Energy Standards

The Anti "Man-Made" Global Warming Resource

There PopTech

Just anchoring your post in place.

Otherwise you're bumping it for the rest of the day. 

I ♣ My Seal

What?

What are you talking about? Bumping it? Do you even understand how these forums work?

The Anti "Man-Made" Global Warming Resource

Hey PopTech

See, this post is now bumped.   

OK, maybe you did go to Public school.  I just assumed you knew that a post can be bumped to the top of the queue by going in and editing it and clicking post again.

This works until somebody tacks a response to it.

Sorry for giving you more credit than you deserve. 

I ♣ My Seal

Bumped Where?

The recent comments section on the right? Who does that? Are you delusional? That is not bumping. Bumping is in a forum where you add a post onto a thread so it goes to the top of the forum. You cannot bump posts in a blog. Do you post online much?

The Anti "Man-Made" Global Warming Resource

Oh, sure, Steffie, let's

Oh, sure, Steffie, let's just "plow" more money into the rich soil of government schools! If schools can't make do with $10,000 per student, what makes you think they can do it with $12,000 ???????????

When are these guys going to realize that more money is not the answer when it comes to education?????? Everybody knows all that, so I won't belabor the point.

Jeez, I had no electricity most of yesterday, so I couldn't get online, and first thing I read this AM has got me running for the duct tape!!

AAAARRGGGHHH!!!!

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You mean you don't think the Professor (OK, the not really but really a teacher guy) deserves a raise?

Goodness, they're only getting in excess of $300,000 per classroom.

I mean that much money would buy about 80 computers according to sarc's math. 

I ♣ My Seal

It's worse than that.

Some teachers might deserve a raise but most of the increases in school budgets gets spent on administration and make-work projects rather than in the classroom. The reality is that administrators way to look for ways to spend money, however needless, because if there are funds leftover, someone at the top will assume they don't need all that funding and it will be cut next year.

Welcome to government budgeting. Think of how that will work for healthcare....

Clinton toady, George

Clinton toady, George Stephanopoulos a former member of the Clinton administration, is, once again, shilling for his former employer.

Neither he nor Greenspan failed to mention that when the Social Security and Medicare programs were established, Congress set each up with funds to be used only if shortfalls occurred in either program during a given year.

But over the years, Congress raided the funds to the point that, today, they no longer exist.

Obviously, if the funds were available there would be no problem with either program, and a rescinding of Bush’s tax cuts wouldn’t be necessary.

So, lets not put the blame on the American people as Congress tends to do when they need a bail out to fix a problem of their own making.

The Democrats, of course, have their own solution, it’s called Amnesty whereby the new ‘citizens’ would be use to shore up the two programs.

Of course, reducing entitlements and stopping ear marking doesn’t enter in to their calculations.

As for Stephy, keep your eyes and ears open for more intense Clinton shilling the closer the presidential election comes.

Poopagoopolous is a Clinton

Poopagoopolous is a Clinton insider who should NEVER have been hired by any news network unless specifically labeled as the partisan advocate he is. (But that would require objectivity, so...)

Laffer curve

I wish someone would explain to these morons what the Laffer curve is and how it works.

 

First, raising taxes DOES NOT equal raising revenue. Bush cut taxes, now we have the highest government revenue in history.  How much more money to they think they need?  The federal government is pulling in more money than ever and lefties want MORE!  It doesn't matter as raising taxes will do just the opposite. It will actually CUT government revenue. In other words, the government will have less money to spend, not more. All that it will do is punish the rich, which all the left really wants to do in the first place.


If they want more money for eductation or whatever, they should CUT taxes further. This will generate more movement of capital around the economy, which is taxed every step of the way, and generate more revenue for government to spend on whatever socialist programs they wish. Better yet, they could simply cut spending on some of these BS programs.

 

If you hamper the war effort of one side, you automatically help out that of the other. --George Orwell