Demonstrating how out of touch he is with conservatives in the Republican base, on Sunday's Face the Nation Bob Schieffer, who conceded the “surge” has “frankly” made “more of a difference than I would have thought,” expressed his frustration with the focus on immigration over Iraq in the Republican campaign. He fretted to guest John McCain: “Why immigration? I mean, we've got a war going on in Iraq, Americans are dying there, it costs what, about $10 billion a month....An enormous amount of money. And yet, every Republican debate it seems to come down to a shouting match over immigration. We saw this last one with Romney and Giuliani going at it hammer and tong. Why immigration?” Of course, the candidates were only responding to the YouTube questions selected by CNN, so Schieffer's beef with the lack of focus on Iraq would better be directed at CNN.
In his closing commentary, CBS's chief Washington correspondent acknowledged how “the additional troops the administration put into Iraq this year have made a difference -- frankly more of a difference than I would have thought,” but “the whole idea of sending those troops in was to quiet things down so the factions within the Iraqi government could work out ways to share power” yet “they haven't moved an inch.” Schieffer concluded with an admonition: “Immigration has dominated the recent presidential debates, and it is important to be sure, but Iraq is still the place where Americans are dying. We need to be hearing more about that.”
Indeed, Hillary Clinton was tripped up by immigration at a Democratic debate, which illustrated how it is not only Republican voters who are upset about uncontrolled illegal immigration.
Schieffer's question in full to McCain:
Let's talk about the subject that seems to be dominating, at least the Republican debates now, and that is immigration. I'd like to ask you first: Why immigration? I mean, we've got a war going on in Iraq, Americans are dying there, it costs what, about $10 billion a month, is that right?...An enormous amount of money. And yet, every Republican debate it seems to come down to a shouting match over immigration. We saw this last one with Romney and Giuliani going at it hammer and tong. Why immigration?
Schieffer's commentary at the end of the December 2 Face the Nation:
The best advice I ever got on covering foreign policy was when someone said, "Don't ever make news of a cease fire the lead of a story about the Middle East," the lesson being events are always so fragile there that the cease fire would most likely be broken before the story made print or got on television. That's why we shouldn't be rolling out the "Mission Accomplished" banner again in Iraq, at least not just yet.Things have quieted down considerably. The additional troops the administration put into Iraq this year have made a difference -- frankly more of a difference than I would have thought -- and those troops deserve great credit. But we must also keep our eye on the prize, or in this case, the continuing lack of one. The whole idea of sending those troops in was to quiet things down so the factions within the Iraqi government could work out ways to share power and rule the country. And so far, they haven't moved an inch. Parliament took the summer off, and since its members got back, they have managed to do exactly nothing. Until they do, until there is some progress in solving the problems that are the root cause of the violence, the turmoil may return once our troops leave.
So where do we go from there? Immigration has dominated the recent presidential debates, and it is important to be sure, but Iraq is still the place where Americans are dying. We need to be hearing more about that.
—Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center




















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God a mighty
December 3, 2007 - 12:54 ET by candanceEven Hillary Clinton is running around saying we need to stay in Iraq and see it through. Most of the country is on board with that, and among the GOP runners only Ron Paul wants us to pull out.
So what? We're supposed to spend two hours hearing Mitt and Rudy agree to stay the course? And even if they did focus on Iraq, Sheiffer would be whining because they avoided the economy. You just can't win with these people.
The most dangerous thing in the world is an angry person with political power.
Why Immigration?
December 3, 2007 - 12:55 ET by heldmyw... Could it be because we're going to win in Iraq, have lovely, big bases within striking distance of lots of troublesome middle eastern countries and every time the Dems trot out the white flags, they get boo'd?
Dems have also chosen the wrong side of the immigration debate. With 70-odd percent of the American public angry about the inaction on border tightening, removing illegals, preventing loss and crime Repubs stand tough and a few are actually making sense!
Wake up Bob! The MSM doesn't set agenda. You're not a 'player' or 'part of the process'. You just leech along after the fact and try to make ratings and dough by reporting the dirt.
Remember?
Schieffer
December 3, 2007 - 13:19 ET by misterbill" I mean, we've got a war going on in Iraq, Americans are dying there, it costs what, about $10 billion a month..."
Perhaps Mr Schieffer needs to read the reports on the numbers of dead,wounded or victimized by illegal immigrants.
When we finish helping Iraq, our troops come home. If we do not fix immigration, the home that our boys and girls come back to will be quite different than the home they left, and not for the better.
Iraqis are not taking jobs and lowering the salaries of the jobs our troops left behind. And as to the $10B per month--Schieffer needs to read the Heritage Foundation numbers (or FAIR, or Grassfire or...) to see how much the immigrants are costing us.
What about the dead illegals Bob
December 3, 2007 - 13:21 ET by Lame CherryApparently Texas Cowpie Bob has not added up the numbers to find out that more illegals are dying and Americans being run over and murdered by illegals THAN ARE DYING IN IRAQ.
For a further note, 2 Americans are now in Federal Prison because they shot a Mexican drug dealer.
They are border patrol agents Ramos and Compean.
The Mexican dope dealer the federal government used to convict these 2 heroes was just arrested again.
I ask that people would send a letter to Mr. Ramos in prison this Christmas as it has been hell on him and his wife and children. Be nice, tell him you are praying for him and people are not forgetting him in working with Tom Tancredo for his release.
His address is:
Ignacio Ramos #58079 - 180
FCI Phoenix
Federal Correctional Institution
37910 N. 45th Ave
Phoenix, AZ 85086
Remember the Bible verse, I was in prison and you visited me. Send him a short note as he was serving America to protect all of us.
for updates you can go to
www.agentramos.com
www.nbpc.com
and if you want to order ribbons to show support you can go to
www.grassfire.org
His family deeply appreciates the efforts of those who have not forgotten this former Navy shipman and border agent. If enough support can be generated a pardon can be granted by President Bush.
This is the real illegal issue and it is past time these 2 gentlemen should be freed.
God bless for those who are moved.
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I think some of this has to
December 3, 2007 - 13:25 ET by Chris NormanI think some of this has to do with old CBS guys, like Bob Schieffer, still being stuck back in the old Vietnam War days. There's no room for new fangled problems, like illegal immigration...
Troops deserve credit. Absolutely. Anyone else?
December 3, 2007 - 13:54 ET by Gary HallTroops deserve credit. Absolutely. Anyone else?
Naturally Schieffer would never consider the possibility that President Bush "AND" his commanders deserve a bit of credit here for sticking to their guns and having the courage to press on.
The MSM usually reserves their fawning for those like Gen. Wesley Clark -- right, our NATO Supreme Commander who was fired from his position by the Clinton administration for insubordination.
Not Much better after 200 years
December 3, 2007 - 14:00 ET by IamTinmanThe USA has been a full fledged democracy for over 200 years and yet today we have factions within our own government who cannot work out power sharing issues and can't even pass a budget! Why would we expect the Iraqis with minimal democratic experience to do better than us?
Local Iraqi leaders are working out their own power sharing arrangments with the support of the "surge" troops. This "bottom up" approach is working and the Scheiffers of the MSM just can't stand (or Understand it)!!
People are dying because of
December 3, 2007 - 14:15 ET by Airforce_5_OPeople are dying because of immigration too Bob.
Illegal immigrants drive cars and kill people.
Their gangs deal drugs and kill people.
They live off of the welfare system and drain money that could go to other areas such as cancer or AIDS research.
Couple that together with officers of the law that have been injured or killed in the line of duty because of illegal alien activity and you could make a strong case that they a darn close.
The only thing you should feel when shooting insurgents is the rifle recoil.
If Schieffer could somehow
December 3, 2007 - 14:23 ET by Chris NormanIf Schieffer could somehow find a way to blame the US for illegal immigration, then maybe he would care about the problem.
Dead on Chis
December 3, 2007 - 14:29 ET by Airforce_5_OI'm sure it would command his attention from his lofty perch.
The only thing you should feel when shooting insurgents is the rifle recoil.
Still don't grasp the surge
December 3, 2007 - 14:30 ET by KC MulvilleWeren't these media geniuses listening when Petraeus and Crocker gave their testimony in September? To be fair, Crocker wasn't exactly a riveting speaker; he could put you to sleep in a few minutes. But Crocker gave a direct answer to these liberal objections. The surge was intended to secure Iraq until a political solution could take root. But Crocker was clear that the political solution wasn't measured solely by what the Iraqi parliament did. The real measurement takes place all over the country. The central government has a role to play, but you can't measure progress by the central government alone. There's a heck of a lot more going on, and the process is far more dynamic, than just watching Maliki.
To me, that reveals something about the media: they assume that the government is the country. They can't comprehend our 300 million people as a whole, so they focus on what they can comprehend: the partisan battles, among the powerful few, inside the Beltway. It's a variation of the old rule that when all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. All they can grasp is the government, so they measure the country by the government programs (and money spent) focused on the problem.
That's why they can't conceive that the solution may not be in government.
Obama. On immigration reform - ha!
December 3, 2007 - 14:33 ET by Gary HallPerhaps, it's best that the Rebublicans get some attention on their immigration debate, becasuse the media certainly missed what jibberish is taking place in the other camp.
What follows are excerpts from Sen. Obama's remarks at the recent CNN hosted Dem debate in Las Vegas. These excerpts are in the correct order. I have only removed the fluff around his words -- his plan -- and [added comments], for entertainment effect.
Oh stick a fork in it
December 3, 2007 - 14:37 ET by bigtimerOh stick a fork in it Bob...
You wouldn't know any realization if it hit you in the face.
By the way spin it all you want about illegal immigration seeming to be a republican issue that is dominating us....this issue is HUGE in BOTH parties you simpleton.
What a short memory this piece of work has, Hillary just got pummeled for her flip-flopping non answer in the recent debates...in fact I heard she was booed again via phone interview with voters in Iowa regarding this very issue....last I heard she has a 'D' behind her name.
As far as McCain goes...he is the last one to ask about illegal immigration, I find the whole thing with he and McCain hilarious.
One is pandering for votes, the other wears his leftist rose colored glasses 24/7.
Unreal I tell ya'...unreal.
bt... keep in mind
December 3, 2007 - 16:04 ET by Clear thinkerwhat Roy Beck said...... "Roy Beck at Numbers USA said that Fred Thompson's Illegal Immigration plan "blew him away". He said it will work. But that message is being ignored."
Rush Limbaugh stated that of the top 5 Republicans running for the presidency, only one was a true conservative. http://www.fred08.com/ Rush then stated that the conservative was Fred Thompson.
Hi Ct... I think Thompson
December 3, 2007 - 16:08 ET by bigtimerHi Ct...
I think Thompson will start really telling his message about illegal immigration and other issues more and more when the SC primary comes up...at least I hope that is his plans.
Thompson to have interview with Wolfie in a few minutes
December 3, 2007 - 16:18 ET by bigtimerFred is going to be interviewed by Wolfie in a few minutes on CNN.
Just thought I would let those interested know...don't know if time varies in other areas.
Freds Immigration details...
December 3, 2007 - 16:25 ET by Clear thinkerIf you want to see the details of his plan go here... http://www.fred08.com/virtual/Immigration.aspx
Rush Limbaugh stated that of the top 5 Republicans running for the presidency, only one was a true conservative. http://www.fred08.com/ Rush then stated that the conservative was Fred Thompson.
bt...
December 3, 2007 - 16:29 ET by Clear thinkerI can't wait to hear the "torture" and the "Iran" segments of this interview.
Funny how Wolfie thought that by Fred using video of actual speeches made by his opponents that it was dirty politics. How can it be dirty if they said it???
Rush Limbaugh stated that of the top 5 Republicans running for the presidency, only one was a true conservative. http://www.fred08.com/ Rush then stated that the conservative was Fred Thompson.
His replies to Wolfie were
December 3, 2007 - 16:35 ET by bigtimerHis replies to Wolfie were great weren't they Ct...true too!
I'm still chuckling....
Well if Illegal immagration
December 3, 2007 - 15:55 ET by sajc05Well if Illegal immagration isn't fixed, in 60 years there will be well over a hundred million hispanic people in the south west making up the majority of all those states and cities, and the latin american socialism will be voted in simply because they will outnumber everybody else and traditional american values and government will die. and the middle east will be the least of our problems.
talking zombie
December 3, 2007 - 19:19 ET by CatherwoodMan, somebody needs to retire that guy; he's been drinking too much embalming fluid. He looks half past dead.