ABC and CBS stuck Tuesday night with news stories on the impact of the roaring California wild fires, but as houses were still burning NBC Nightly News found it an opportune time to make the case that global warming caused the fires. NBC's sole expert, however, delivered a circular argument in which the lack of scientific proof did not detract at all from his media-shared presumption that anything bad which occurs in the environment can be tied to global warming. After reporter Anne Thompson cautioned scientists say you can't know “after just one season” whether warming is to blame, Princeton professor Michael Oppenheimer, a leading global warming alarmist who, NBC failed to mention, serves as a science adviser to Environmental Defense, reasoned:
The weather we've seen this fall may or may not be due to the global warming trend, but it's certainly a clear picture of what the future is going to look like if we don't act quickly to cut emissions of the greenhouse gases.
Standing in smoldering ruins of a home in San Diego County, anchor Brian Williams introduced the story: “This has been the driest season on record, unusually severe, that's leading some people here to wonder: Are these fires somehow a result of climate change? The UN panel on global warming did warn that we would see more wildfires, so is there a real connection? We've asked our chief environmental affairs correspondent, Anne Thompson. But Thompson is hardly in a position to provide an independent assessment. In August, she filed a story smearing critics of global warming panic as “deniers” and “denier groups”and, the day Al Gore won his Nobel Peace Prize, she endorsed his position on the threat of climate change.
With two uses of the “could” caveat, Thompson asserted in her Tuesday piece: “A new study out this week suggests the impact of climate change could be stronger and sooner than expected. And one of the predicted impacts from climate change could be more wildfires.” She soon added: “The wildfires are just one example of this fall's extreme weather: Tornadoes in Michigan, a lack off fall color in the Carolinas, the spectacular foliage muted by drought and warm temperatures....And here in Minnesota's twin cities, they are still awaiting the first official frost.”
My October 12 NewsBusters item recounted Thompson's endorsement of Gore view:
She [Thompson] enthused [on NBC Nightly News] that a presidential bid by Gore is "a tantalizing prospect," though "few expect" it to happen. Thompson concluded by seeing complete vindication: "Gore's co-winner of the Nobel Peace Prize, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, left no doubt that man is responsible for global warming. The debate now is over how much the climate will change if nothing is done."
(Kyle Drennen's posting, “CBS’s Pelley Uses Wildfires to Prove Global Warming,” looked at a Sunday 60 Minutes report which argued warming has increased the frequency and size of “mega-fires” in Western forests.)
After Katrina, the media were full of claims that it represented a dire trend of more powerful tornadoes fueled by warmer water. Two hurricane seasons later, there have been fewer and milder hurricanes yet I'm waiting to hear from any chastened journalists. If there aren't any huge California wild fires for a few years, what are the chances Anne Thompson or NBC News will see that short term reality as disproving what they are using a couple of years and one really bad week to prove is a long term danger?
A transcript of the October 23 NBC Nightly News story:
BRIAN WILLIAMS: As we all know, wildfires in this area are nothing new. In fact, we see them just about every year. As Don [Teague] mentioned, the last benchmark was the Cedar fire, but this has been the driest season on record, unusually severe, that's leading some people here to wonder: Are these fires somehow a result of climate change? The UN panel on global warming did warn that we would see more wildfires, so is there a real connection? We've asked our chief environmental affairs correspondent, Anne Thompson.
ANNE THOMPSON: Wildfires so unusual today may not be in the future. A new study out this week suggests the impact of climate change could be stronger and sooner than expected. And one of the predicted impacts from climate change could be more wildfires.
PROFESSOR MICHAEL OPPENHEIMER, PRINCETON UNIVERSITY: The study is very disturbing because it means we're lunging forward faster and faster at an accelerating pace, pouring emissions into the atmosphere while the earth continues to warm.
THOMPSON: China and India's growing economies are spewing more carbon dioxide into the air and the earth's forests and oceans are losing their ability to absorb it. The wildfires are just one example of this fall's extreme weather: Tornadoes in Michigan, a lack off fall color in the Carolinas, the spectacular foliage muted by drought and warm temperatures.
MARTHA BOGLE, BLUE RIDGE MOUNTAIN PARKWAY: We've been through periods of short droughts, but nothing of this magnitude.
THOMPSON: And here in Minnesota's twin cities, they are still awaiting the first official frost, when the temperature dips to 32 degrees. It should have happened two weeks ago. But not this year. So does all this add up to global warming? Scientists say you can't answer that question after just one season.
OPPENHEIMER: The weather we've seen this fall may or may not be due to the global warming trend, but it's certainly a clear picture of what the future is going to look like if we don't act quickly to cut emissions of the greenhouse gases.
THOMPSON: A stark warning in this autumn of change. Anne Thompson, NBC News, Minneapolis.
—Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center





BRIAN WILLIAMS: As we all know, wildfires in this area are nothing new. In fact, we see them just about every year. As Don [Teague] mentioned, the last benchmark was the Cedar fire, but this has been the driest season on record, unusually severe, that's leading some people here to wonder: Are these fires somehow a result of climate change? The UN panel on global warming did warn that we would see more wildfires, so is there a real connection? We've asked our chief environmental affairs correspondent, Anne Thompson.
THOMPSON: China and India's growing economies are spewing more carbon dioxide into the air and the earth's forests and oceans are losing their ability to absorb it. The wildfires are just one example of this fall's extreme weather: Tornadoes in Michigan, a lack off fall color in the Carolinas, the spectacular foliage muted by drought and warm temperatures. 















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global warming is now just starting fires randomly on earth
October 23, 2007 - 21:11 ET by lunaticcringeradiorandomly in the same places they have been starting for eons, but now we can take advantage of the reccurence of nature and tag a political agenda to it.
if global warming is just touching off fires any ole place how come i can't get it to localize in my bbq and save me some lighterfluid.
how many idiots are actually going to believe this crap.
lunaticcringeradio
how many idiots will
October 23, 2007 - 21:25 ET by candancehow many idiots will believe this? at least a third of the American people, I guarantee.
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I recall fires like this
October 23, 2007 - 21:37 ET by Gat New YorkI recall fires like this happening BGW (Before Global Warming or more appropriately Before George W). And in the very same places.
PLEASEEEE SOMEONE GET ME MY
October 23, 2007 - 22:46 ET by tkeefePLEASEEEE SOMEONE GET ME MY GUN!!!!!!!
When I was a boy my dad would have slapped me upside the head for being this stupid. AND I WAS BUT A CHILD. JEZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Whew, I'm glad Williams is
October 23, 2007 - 21:38 ET by ckc1227Whew, I'm glad Williams is on top of this. I mean, we all know forest fires never happened until now. At least now we know why. How would we ever figure these things out without Mr. Williams and NBC news?
If you want to blame anyone, how about blaming the environmentalists. You know, those environmentalists pushing the AGW scam that just happen to be the same ones that won't allow the clearing of dead, diseased, and overgrown forests that provide fuel for these forest fires.
Dead Wood
October 24, 2007 - 00:27 ET by NortoBeliever
I heard on Quinn & Rose today a lengthy discussion on the past 100 years of lousy forest mgt. It would be one thing if we weren't trying to populate these areas, but that is obviously not the case and a more active mgt policy needs to be implemented.
Note: i abbreviated mgt, because it is late and I am tired!
So what if illegals started
October 23, 2007 - 21:39 ET by rbosqueSo what if illegals started the fires near the border, will the MSM blame them or their leftist global warming fantasy win out???
THAT WOULD BE FUNNY...
October 24, 2007 - 08:28 ET by danybhoyThey could have the video of an illegal actually setting the fire & they would deny that the fact that he is illegal matters.
"Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise" Mark Levin
}}---> Smokestack Mountain
October 24, 2007 - 08:32 ET by Cool ArrowComing to a theatre near you.
Droughts - Not since - yesterday?
October 23, 2007 - 21:57 ET by Gary HallBrian Williams: "..but this has been the driest season on record.."
"on record?"
Now, just why is it that [historic] records count when the media finds them to their liking, but not when they don't. This is nothing here, this modern set of records for the past 100 some odd years. Last year the LA Times in a shrill piece noting the same bleak future, somehow slipped in a bit of perspective at the tail end of a front page story on our current drought:
You just have to love it; warming periods cause cool waters that caused drought. And there, they are discussing a mega drought, right here in Southern CA that went on for 400 years, or, right up to the beginning of the Little Ice Age, which we're still coming out of. A 400 year long drought. Now that's dry - and that is a tad bit longer than 5 or ten years - it just keeps on giving. But rest assured. Man is causing this one - now. Not that one - then.
However, all of these silly drought and fire studies, which we keep hearing about, look mostly at this last mini cycle - that one since about 1970. You know, since the cool point in the mini cycle. 1970 was the bottom (cool point) between the last mini cooling period (from about 1935 to 1970, and the last mini warming period (from 1970 to about present). We see the same charts for the Arctic ice cover, the hurricane frequency and intensity charts, the drought and fire charts and the increasing number of women entering menopause - since 1970.
And one more thing out here in the west - one of them there factors. Factors they don't put in these multi-million $ federally funded grant based studies; massive population increase, population (whata we got - 75 million more people in the West) creep into previously undeveloped areas (wooded areas - forested areas), off-road vehicles, catalytic converters (start many fires when people pull their cars onto dry grass), millions more people driving and throwing cigarettes out the windows (now since they don't want the smoke in their cars), and the biggie.
Ya ready for the big increase cause in fires in the last 30 years? Arson.
ARSON. But then again, these arson folks are probably all pissed off because of Bush or Reagan, or the bad economy, or the war, and since he's helping global warming - see, it's still Bush's fault and if he comes out here then all holly cow will break out, unless he does not, cause he does not care.
Right Brian Wilson - you're a national news anchor - that probably all makes good sense to a mind like yours - right?
Wouldn't you love it.
October 23, 2007 - 22:26 ET by pbthinkerWouldn't you love it if, just once, one of these media types would get someone from the Sierra Club on and ask them this question:
"It's been reported that these fires are unusually strong because your group has vehemently opposed good forest management policies, including President Bush's Healthy Forests Initiative, how do you answer this?"
Alas, the MSM is a group with a purpose, and reporting the facts is not one of them.
Democrats: Specializing in "high tech lynching" since 1987.
Apparently Harry Reid
October 23, 2007 - 22:27 ET by RW_the originalApparently Harry Reid believes it too.
“One reason why we have the fires in California is global warming,”
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) told reporters Tuesday,
stressing the need to pass the Democrats’ comprehensive energy package.
Anybody want to bet what the inevitable winter mud slides will be blamed on?
Other So Cal propaganda
October 24, 2007 - 00:46 ET by mastersofdeceitAlready crossed my mind this morning RW.
...and the rains will come
then the mud slides
blame global warming.........repeat cycle.
The last couple months the heat has been turned up on talk of "water shortage" and "water rationing" again in LA County. Even though there is no water shortage in LA County. None.
Not entirely true... We
October 24, 2007 - 12:03 ET by KhyrisNot entirely true...
We are using reserves now rather than relying entirely on the aquaeduct.
It has nothing to do with
October 23, 2007 - 22:50 ET by BlackwaterIt has nothing to do with the fact that fire preventive measures, in which a fire is spotted and put out causing the forest to become more dense. This in turn allows the fires to spread much faster and be more wide spread. Also, this fire was started by a down electrical wire, if I recall corectly.
BBC pulled the same story last night
October 23, 2007 - 23:10 ET by Lame CherryI apologize for the name of the BBC American "expert", but I think it was Clapp last night telling the
viewers that global warming was the cause of the satanic fires (That is what the name means in Spanish as they are hot and been burning California for hundreds of years at least.)........that these fires were the worst, because this shill for money had lived their most of his life.
Now that is scientific evidence if I ever heard it. 45 years on a 6,000 year scale from a Mr. Clapp if you asked him how much rain fell 3 years ago he couldn't tell you withing 5 inches.
For the record, RAIN CAUSED THE MALIBU FIRES. I will repeat that rain caused the Malibu fires, because rain grows all that desert brush and grass which by nature ALWAYS dries out and as it has no purpose but in choking out wildlife and other plants .....nature burns the garbage off.
Now if Arnold was more busy in burning brush in California instead of destroying the terms Mom and Dad being taught children none of this would have happened.
See Indians always burnt the country for the simple reason burnt ground greened up earlier in the spring and in the winter and fall IT CONCENTRATED GAME so hunting was easier.
If the twits of California would burn things off, if the twits in California would quit building houses in fire traps none of this would happen as it does indeed rain in California and nature burns off the brush when it dries.
Global Warming scams have nothing to do with it.
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More lies!
October 23, 2007 - 23:34 ET by JDWWND- Reid: Global warming caused fires
Today, Rangel smeared Giuliani while protecting Ms Clinton. Ms Boxer smeared the president while simply lying about the fires. The libs lied about the new plan to do more party promoting over the morning shows... Ms Clinton lied about her loving private life with Bubba. Welcome Mr Reid!
JDW
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The "fire news" already needs a correction.
October 24, 2007 - 00:57 ET by mastersofdeceitJust saw this little tidbit.
Is there anything not
October 24, 2007 - 02:31 ET by Clearly CalifornianIs there anything not caused by global warming. I'm trying to keep up with it but it's getting tough.
Life's a garden, dig it. - Joe Dirt
This is one of the
October 24, 2007 - 04:33 ET by acadia1755—Michael Oppenheimer, Environmental Defense Fund
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Environmental Defense Fund = RETARDS
October 24, 2007 - 10:11 ET by Six String SpiffThat paragraph was one of THE stupidest things I have ever heard. But it doesn't surprise me that it came from an eviro-weenie. I thought it was downed wire that started the fire too. Oh but who needs FACTS when you can push an agenda? This is beyond dangerous. The way they are talking, they want to cut other countries off at the knees. Do they not understand that it's our turn? Do they understand that going out and 'saving' these animals from waring with other animal tribes is actually INTERFERING with nature? Helllloooooooo?
The American Revolution Continued
These folks hate themselves
October 24, 2007 - 10:48 ET by ahusserThese folks hate themselves and mankind with a vengeance. It is an agenda to implement extreme socialism (fomerly Marxism now the environmental movement) on all. I think it is their fervent wish that 4/5 ths (or more) of the world population would just disappear to be replaced by their "elite" so they all could live in perfect harmony with nature like the native americans. More would handle it like Pol Pot did in Cambodia. Their blindness to the ever present and seamless (man made) technology that surrounds and sustains them is astounding.
Well, their in good
October 24, 2007 - 10:53 ET by bassndudeWell, their in good company. I hate them to.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Gotta love this snippet of double-talk...
October 24, 2007 - 06:21 ET by Indiana Joe"The weather we've seen this fall may or may not be due to the global warming trend, but it's certainly a clear picture of what the future is going to look like if we don't act quickly to cut emissions of the greenhouse gases."
If it "may or may not" be from AGW, then how can we KNOW the future "IS going to look like" this if the mean old GG's aren't reined in? Should be "may look like," right? But these people are "certain," even when they toss in the falsely "balanced" phrase, "may or may not."
Idiots who think the rest of us are BIGGER idiots!
Indiana Joe... "May or
October 24, 2007 - 10:08 ET by Clear thinkerIndiana Joe...
"May or may not be BIGGER idiots"
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All this talk of GW, and
October 24, 2007 - 10:39 ET by bassndudeAll this talk of GW, and here in Oklahoma, we are below normal temps, and have had a cooler summer than we have had in a long time. Set a record, sence records have been kept, anyway, for rain fall. 53.34 inches this year so far, beating out the 52.03 inches set in 1908. Now, dont get me wrong, the lakes are full and the fishing is great, and the spawn went super well, so I was all for this, and I can fish in the rain. Cooler temps, so I can fish longer in the summer days...this is great!
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
451 degrees of separation...
October 24, 2007 - 14:17 ET by Crash... and the truth is even further back.
It's official, I'm closer to Kevin Bacon than this wild stretch of fireside "reporting." Are the MSM being eaten from the core by the lunatic fringe? Here's some advice for the TV personalities who call themselves "reporters", if they stare at the sun too long they'll go more blind. Regardless, no matter how hard they try to fix the blame on the human race and the Bush's for everything bad, they sure have it good.
Arson?
October 24, 2007 - 11:16 ET by mattmI've heard that some of the fires were deliberately set...by enviro-nuts.
Besides, the Santa Ana winds which have been essentially the same for a couple thousand years at least are responsible for the dry conditions...
...oh, sorry, I forgot...facts aren't allowed....
I was trying to remember
October 24, 2007 - 12:50 ET by ahusserI was trying to remember when there was a huge set of wildfires in California much more (so far) devastating and widespread than the fires right now. I think it was about 15 years ago. Probably caused by the ozone layer deteriorating or the amazon rainforest cause gorbal warming hadn't been hyped yet.
I'm no GW expert
October 24, 2007 - 12:05 ET by KhyrisI'm no global warming expert... but I thought they said it was CO2 causing it? You know, the stuff they put in fire extinguishers?
They're asking us to believe that an increase in what makes fires go out is what's causing fires?