Again exploiting children and mothers to advance the goal of expanding federal spending and dependency, ABC's World News led Wednesday night by giving voice to the media-political establishment's astonishment that President Bush would veto a bill to provide health insurance “for children.” Anchor Charles Gibson led his newscast: “Most politicians like to kiss babies, pet dogs and support programs for children. Not often you'll see one take a stand against a proposal providing health insurance for children. But that's what President Bush did today, vetoing the so-called S-CHIP program that would have expanded health insurance for children by $35 billion.”
Reporter Martha Raddatz highlighted how “the country seems to disagree” with Bush since “72 percent of Americans support expanding the program,” which the media have promoted, “including majorities of Republicans and conservatives.” Indeed, ABC's poll (PDF) found self-identified conservatives favor the expansion by 61 to 36 percent. Raddatz, who two weeks ago used a crying mother to push increased spending, warned Wednesday that “the veto could have a profound impact.” To back her assumption, Raddatz featured an unlabeled left-wing activist from Families USA followed a mother who pleaded: “Having it taken away would be devastating. You can't do that to children. It's not right.”
The CBS Evening News, however, at least noted that Bush wasn't against federal help to provide health insurance for poor kids, just against the bill which “would include more than the poor” by covering those with substantially higher incomes. Jim Axelrod explained: “Saying he supports expanding health care coverage for poor kids, just not to the extent the Democrats want, President Bush cast his veto.”
Axelrod warned that “this veto could be big trouble for Republicans who now face a 'shame on you' campaign complete with small children in red wagons delivering petitions to the White House,” but he added: “Never mind that the President proposed his own $5 billion expansion to the program.”
Noting how Bush “says he's curbing runaway spending,” Axelrod countered from the White House lawn that “one GOP strategist says poor kids' health care trumps fiscal restraint every time. Democrats have two weeks until the override vote to frame the choice just that way.” But, thanks to the news media, the choice has already been framed that way.
(Wednesday's NBC Nightly News limited veto coverage to a brief item read by anchor Brian Williams.)
“When the Story's Got Children, Who Needs Facts?” read the headline over an October 3 posting on the MRC's Business and Media Institute, an extensive report sub-titled: “Media coverage of State Children's Health Insurance Program expansion heavy on liberal talking points, light on its unattractive reality.” Amy Menefee outlined “things the media didn’t tell you” in coverage of the proposal to greatly expand the health program, including:
* Does Bush Care about the Children?
* Who Really Wants Government Health Insurance Expansion?
* What Congress Would Do vs. What Bush Would Do
* Why the Tobacco Tax Increase Wouldn’t Work
My September 20 NewsBusters posting, “ABC Exploits Kids and Crying Mom to Push Higher Federal Health Spending,” recounted:
CBS, and especially ABC, on Thursday night portrayed the debate over increasing federal spending on health insurance for children as an effort to help kids only the cold-hearted could oppose, a framing aided by scenes of cute toddlers, a crying mother and little emphasis on how those well above poverty would qualify. ABC anchor Charles Gibson overlooked the proposed expansion, to those in families who have or can afford private insurance, as he cited “a bill providing health insurance to millions of kids whose parents cannot afford private coverage.”
Reporter Martha Raddatz found a poor mother to exploit, beginning her story: “Susan Dick depends on the so-called SCHIP [State Children's Health Insurance Program] program for her two sons, both of whom have asthma. The family income is too low for private insurance, too high for Medicaid.” Raddatz briefly noted Bush's fear many would move from private insurance to the government program and then, leading into a soundbite from liberal Republican California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, she hailed how “the expansion has bipartisan support across the country, including from many Republicans...” Capping her story, Raddatz featured a crying mother who sympathetically fretted: “If my boys don't have health insurance, it makes it very hard when you're a parent to know that they're sick and you have to get them to the doctor.” Raddatz coldly concluded: “But the President made it very clear today, Charlie, he will veto this bill in its present form.”
CBS anchor Katie Couric also painted Bush as opposed to helping kids: “President Bush opened a news conference today by attacking a proposed expansion of a health care program for low-income children.”...
My August 1 NewsBusters item, “CBS Hails 'Landmark' and 'Historic' Efforts to Expand Federal Control of Health,” related:
Wednesday's CBS Evening News trumpeted two liberal efforts to expand government power, leading by heralding “landmark legislation” to have the FDA regulate cigarettes followed by a story slanted in favor of, as reporter Thalia Assuras described it, an “historic expansion of health care coverage for children” of the “working poor.” Assuras, however, ignored such inconvenient facts as how a family of four with an income as high as $82,600 could get on the taxpayers' dole. Katie Couric had teased her top story: “Tonight, landmark legislation that supporters say could save millions of lives. Congress takes a step toward regulating everything about cigarettes for the first time ever.”Next, Couric introduced a look at “getting medical coverage for the millions of American children who don't have it.” Assuras touted how a proposed expansion of the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) “boosts funding by $50 billion over five years, almost doubling the number of uninsured kids covered from the current six million children to about 11 million.” Sinking to the all too common media technique of exploiting a victim to push a liberal policy, Assuras cited “children like seven-year-old Pilar Edwards whose ear ache was so severe her mother brought her to this mobile medical clinic where she could get help even though Pilar is uninsured.” Assuras did pass along how critics contend “the legislation is a slippery slope toward a universal health care plan,” but against two negative soundbites, viewers heard from four advocates as Assuras concluded with a Senator's charge that “it would be a travesty if the President vetoed this legislation,” followed by these final words from Assuras: “With kids caught in the middle.” More like taxpayers...
The MRC's Brad Wilmouth corrected the closed-captioning against the video to provide transcripts of the October 3 stories on ABC and CBS:
CHARLES GIBSON, IN OPENING TEASER: Welcome to World News. Tonight, a controversial veto. President Bush blocks a major expansion of health insurance for children, a measure that Congress and most Americans want....
GIBSON: Good evening. Most politicians like to kiss babies, pet dogs and support programs for children. Not often you'll see one take a stand against a proposal providing health insurance for children. But that's what President Bush did today, vetoing the so-called S-CHIP program that would have expanded health insurance for children by $35 billion. Democrats on the Hill and many Republicans support it. The President says it's too expensive. Our chief White House correspondent Martha Raddatz is at the White House tonight. Martha?
MARTHA RADDATZ: Charlie, this is the fourth time the President has used his veto pen, but it is by far the most unpopular veto. The President signed the veto in private, but gave a very public and strident defense of it.
GEORGE W. BUSH: What you're seeing when you expand eligibility for federal programs is the desire by some in Washington, D.C. to federalize health care. I don't think that's good for the country.
RADDATZ: The country seems to disagree -- 72 percent of Americans support expanding the program, including majorities of Republicans and conservatives. And on the Hill today, Democrats and Republicans stood side-by-side against the President.
SENATOR ORRIN HATCH (R-UT): And I don't think the President is somebody who doesn't want these kids to be covered. I think he's been given some pretty bad advice by some who, though sincere, are sincerely wrong.
RADDATZ: The so-called S-CHIP program was originally intended to reach families who earn at most three times the poverty level, which ranges on average from $20,000 to $60,000 for a family of four depending on where they live. Today, 6.6 million children are enrolled. The House and Senate, concerned about skyrocketing health care costs, passed this bill, which would have maintained the current enrollment and added nearly 3.5 million more children to the program. The veto could have a profound impact.
RON POLLACK, FAMILIES USA: If the states do not get enough money to pay for the additional costs of health care, then they're going to have to cut back on the coverage that they're currently providing to children. And as a result, about one million children currently in the program are at risk of losing it.
RADDATZ: Lori Siravo has S-CHIP coverage for her daughter Carly.
LORI SIRAVO, MOTHER: Having it taken away would be devastating. You can't do that to children. It's not right.
RADDATZ: Analysts say children like Carly could lose their coverage, but the White House strongly disagrees. Although they did say late today if there is not enough money to meet the program's original intent and families are struggling, we are willing to talk about how much more needs to be done. And, Charlie, the White House does say it is willing to compromise.
CBS Evening News:
KATIE COURIC: From the Pentagon to the White House now, where President Bush made good today on a threat to veto an expansion of the so-called S-CHIP program. That provides health insurance to about six million poor children. Congress wants to increase that to 10 million children, but the President says that would include more than the poor. Here's Jim Axelrod.
JIM AXELROD: Saying he supports expanding health care coverage for poor kids, just not to the extent the Democrats want, President Bush cast his veto, then flew to Pennsylvania to make it crystal clear he's ready to deal.
GEORGE W. BUSH: And if they need a little more money in the bill to help us meet the objective of getting help for poor children, I'm more than willing to sit down with the leaders and find a way to do so.
AXELROD: Despite significant Republican support, it's uncertain if Democrats can get the votes needed to override the veto. They're set in the Senate but still roughly 15 votes short in the House.
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AXELROD: This veto could be big trouble for Republicans who now face a "shame on you" campaign complete with small children in red wagons delivering petitions to the White House. Never mind that the President proposed his own $5 billion expansion to the program.
REP. RAHM EMANUEL (D-IL): He knows he is on the wrong side of what is right and what is politically correct.
AXELROD: Democratic leaders like Rahm Emanuel are licking their chops.
EMANUEL: And so the President of the United States is asking 15 Republicans to stand with him on an argument about government-run health care and deny American kids health care and yet vote at the same time to give Iraq $190 billion.
AXELROD: The President says he's curbing runaway spending. One GOP strategist says poor kids' health care trumps fiscal restraint every time. Democrats have two weeks until the override vote to frame the choice just that way. Jim Axelrod, CBS News, the White House.
—Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center





Reporter Martha Raddatz found a poor mother to exploit, beginning her story: “Susan Dick depends on the so-called SCHIP [State Children's Health Insurance Program] program for her two sons, both of whom have asthma. The family income is too low for private insurance, too high for Medicaid.” Raddatz briefly noted Bush's fear many would move from private insurance to the government program and then, leading into a soundbite from liberal Republican California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, she hailed how “the expansion has bipartisan support across the country, including from many Republicans...” Capping her story, Raddatz featured a crying mother who sympathetically fretted: “If my boys don't have health insurance, it makes it very hard when you're a parent to know that they're sick and you have to get them to the doctor.” Raddatz coldly concluded: “But the President made it very clear today, Charlie, he will veto this bill in its present form.”
RADDATZ: The country seems to disagree -- 72 percent of Americans support expanding the program, including majorities of Republicans and conservatives. And on the Hill today, Democrats and Republicans stood side-by-side against the President.
RADDATZ: The so-called S-CHIP program was originally intended to reach families who earn at most three times the poverty level, which ranges on average from $20,000 to $60,000 for a family of four depending on where they live. Today, 6.6 million children are enrolled. The House and Senate, concerned about skyrocketing health care costs, passed this bill, which would have maintained the current enrollment and added nearly 3.5 million more children to the program. The veto could have a profound impact.
RADDATZ: Analysts say children like Carly could lose their coverage, but the White House strongly disagrees. Although they did say late today if there is not enough money to meet the program's original intent and families are struggling, we are willing to talk about how much more needs to be done. And, Charlie, the White House does say it is willing to compromise.
JIM AXELROD: Saying he supports expanding health care coverage for poor kids, just not to the extent the Democrats want, President Bush cast his veto, then flew to Pennsylvania to make it crystal clear he's ready to deal.














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John Smith failed completely
October 3, 2007 - 21:23 ET by UnsaneGreg Stillson lives.
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
Why not?
October 3, 2007 - 21:32 ET by ghost of Mary Jo KopechneWhy stop at "free" health care. Let's give everyone "free" beer and pretzels. Any takers?
Support Our Troops. God bless the military.
http://adoptaplatoon.org/new/index.htm
Make it beer, pizza and hot
October 3, 2007 - 21:59 ET by drillanwrMake it beer, pizza and hot wings, and I'm in!
Taking it away??????
October 3, 2007 - 21:45 ET by motherbeltRaddatz featured an unlabeled left-wing activist from Families USA
followed a mother who pleaded: “Having it taken away would be
devastating. You can't do that to children. It's not right.”
Who the heck said anything about taking the program away? Republicans had better get out there front and center and start explaining this abomination or the Democrats are going to eat their lunch. It will be worse than the "Republicans want to take away school lunches" disaster! And I don't mean "Even Republicans", they need real fiscal conservatives who can explain just what this proposal is and who it will cover and what it will cost.
BTW, when they quote that 72% that favor expanding the program, did they ask "Do you favor expanding the S-CHIP program?" Or did they ask "Do you favor expanding the program to cover "children" up to 25 years old, in families earning up to $80,000 a year? Did they also ask "Are you willing to pay increased taxes to fund this expansion?"
Since I never had sex
October 3, 2007 - 22:01 ET by Lame CherryHey Charlie Gibson it might be news to you but I never had sex with your wife. I never banged Martha Raadatz. Never knocked up Katie Couric and I never boinked Jim Axelrod's old lady....so none of these kids are mine to pay for in health care.
So why do I as a tax payer suddenly have to become responsible for sex I didn't have and children who are not mine. I repeat these snot nosed whining Sesame Street whiners are not my kids. I never got turned on by your old lady and never stuck my manhood into these 26 other million fatherless children.
It is a rather novel approach Charlie, but maybe the people having sex, turning out kids faster than Mexican border busters hopping over the Rio Grande SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN KIDS.
They want insurance so fricking bad? Hey they can get another job instead of sitting around collecting welfare watching Oprah on dish tv while dad of the week is out making more kids with some under age bimbo whose poppie isn't about the place either.
People want kids people can take care of them. This ilk can't abort them fast enough for sex and they certainly can't turn them out fast enough for welfare.
Life is hard and while anyone has compassion on a kid. It is the parent's problem and not anyone elses..........or Charlie "daddy" you can start writing out my allowance check weekly out of your ........well if you earn 7 million a year then that would mean you earn around 135 thousand a week.........so just make the check out to 10 grand as I can hire a few border busters to be my butler and maid and use the rest on steak, steak and a few guns along with some furs for some babes.
If you love Colin Powell so much Charlie in breaking Iraq twice and owning it.......hey Chuck you grow em they are your kids.........not mine to take care of.
*HIC IACET ARTORIVS REX QVONDAM REXQVE FVTVRVS
Oops, sorry Lame, I thought you meant you had never had sex.
October 3, 2007 - 22:08 ET by Dave RMy bad.
When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.
what a joke
October 3, 2007 - 22:02 ET by jondelwicheReality: 72% of Americans don't even know what the SCHIP program is.
Kids and "health insurance." What a load of crap, especially for kids--these are the gravy years.
They dont even recommend treating ear infections anymore...you know, a trial of watchful waiting. Going to the doctor has become a social outing.
Most of these Medicaid type peds patients run in for routine viruses, or their totally unneeded ADD meds, or to show off another one inch rash. Absolute waste of money, but it pays for my convertible.
How about this? Cover immunizations, cover major medical for surgery or hospitalization, but with the pricecutting minute clinics there is no need for the gov't nanny state. End of story.
Exactly jonde!!!
October 4, 2007 - 06:59 ET by BourbeauThey'd be lucky if they found 1% that knew anything about this program. Here's my question: has any child died in this country from lack of healthcare. I doubt it; if ill, they can walk into any emergency room and be treated immediately for free, and they don't even have to be a citizen. Not to mention that most locals probably have community medical support where people can go for routine treatment, if needed. If we need the SCHIP program, that's fine; but keep it for the people it is suppose to help - the poor. Stop approving modifications for every state, to expand the program. And let Congress go pound sand with the bill that just got vetoed.
Oh, here we go now . .
October 3, 2007 - 22:05 ET by drillanwrOh, here we go now . . .
Okay, when's the rally in D.C. where all the lib parents drag their kids out of public school and dump them on the White House lawn for an "I was sick, and that mean Bush wouldn't pay for the doctor so I died ..." die in?
drill,
October 3, 2007 - 22:22 ET by Dave RYou know, that would be worth a road trip to DC to see.
If you will bring the beer, I'll bring the wings and the grill. :-)
Ye old ex post-facto abortion. Gotta love it. Maybe it will even catch on nationally.
One can dream.
When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.
Tail-gating at the "Bush
October 3, 2007 - 22:27 ET by drillanwrTail-gating at the "Bush wouldn't pay my doctor bills so my kid died from his ADD" kid die in ...
Hell you say! I'm there! KEGGER!!!!
Hey, Dave, let's make big banners "How Big Of A Carbon Footprint Did You Make Getting Here?"
and
"SAVE THE PLANET ... Cut Back On Your Protest Trips To The Capitol!"
drill,
October 3, 2007 - 22:38 ET by Dave RAnd let us not forget that the always obligatory, "It's for the children" mantra must be represented as well.
After all, that is their usual MO when it comes to stiffing (screwing?) us taxpayers.
When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.
}}---> For the Children
October 3, 2007 - 22:49 ET by Cool ArrowReckon we should invite Kevin Fed-her-line as guest speaker?
~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~
Sure, he can bring the kids
October 3, 2007 - 22:54 ET by drillanwrSure, he can bring the kids ...
I'm pro-abortion - for the kids
October 4, 2007 - 14:12 ET by TruthMongerCan I wear my nancy pelosi t-shirt?
it says "I'm pro-abortion - for the kids"
You dress up as Barney---
October 3, 2007 - 22:54 ET by drillanwrYou dress up as Barney--- No, wait, that would confuse actual D.C. people who might mistake you for Barney Frank ... yikes!
Big Bird---- No, "Pritty, pritty" Robert KKK Bird ...
I know! Shamu---- Nope. Ted Kennedy ... <sigh>
Oh! The Joker---- Naw, Nancy Pelosi might think you're a mirror.
Hmmm, Elmo? Nope, Kucinich has that one down.
Pinocchio ... Al Gore.
Barbie? ... Nup. Edwards.
How the heck we supposed to entertain the kiddies?
Cripes, Dave, what cartoon characters haven't the democrats hijacked?
}}---> Cartoon casting call
October 4, 2007 - 06:44 ET by Cool ArrowI thought Barney Frank made a better panoch!o.
~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~
drill,
October 4, 2007 - 14:06 ET by Dave RYosemite Sam.
No way they can turn him into a lib.
No way.
When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.
Not with those guns!
October 4, 2007 - 16:15 ET by drillanwrNot with those guns!
You know what is really
October 3, 2007 - 22:32 ET by jpatchYou know what is really disturbing about all of this?
The reason why we have to post here, is because there are literally millions of people in this country that will pick up the newspaper, flip on the T.V., or turn on the radio, and hear, "Bush rejects $35 billion plan to help American kids in need of healthcare, yet has plans to spend $150 billion in Iraq next year." People won't, can't, or don't care enough to understand a few things:
Number one, these things are mutually exclusive. Number two, no issue is EVER as plain and clear-cut as the MSM soundbytes make them out to be. It is so damn overt what they do, with the photos, with the teasers on the screen, with the oversimplified descriptions of these programs. It just makes me so damn mad, because we all know people in our lives that will parrot these exact reports.
"Ya, Bush, that f***ing idiot, war monger terrorist, wants to use all of our money to get richer and get more oil, meanwhile we have the worst healthcare in the world, that no one can even afford, and now he wants to take more money away from our kids? He's without a doubt the worst President ever." ...and my mouth will be agape, as I stand there it total disbelief that there are people who are so programmable, so ignorant, so emotional that they behave as robots, mindlessly regurgitating these heuristics and half-truths...
...But who can blame them, look at what the "journalists" in this country have become!!! Falsifying documents; repeating "stories" without checking facts; attempting to smear individuals that disagree with them, meanwhile claiming to be tolerant and unbiased?!?!?
It truly frightens me.
Thank God for NewsBusters...at least the truth is out there somewhere.
NeoPRAVDA, baby.
October 3, 2007 - 22:33 ET by drillanwrNeoPRAVDA, baby.
Per Couric: "We on the
October 3, 2007 - 22:34 ET by ConservativeRexPer Couric: "We on the left care so much more for children than GWB does. We are willing to leave you in abject poverty for generations so your parents can continue to vote Democrats in. We will make sure your schools are leftist breeding grounds to perpetuate that the world "owes" you something. We will also make sure that your victim hood status never is allowed to get challenged. We will ingrain in you that you do not have to work hard, that those that have more than you are not being taxed enough because they are selfish and they happened to hit the lottery of life, above all else it is not your fault that you are in your present condition. The selfish people made you the way you are. And that's why we care more about the children that GWB"
Conservasaurus Rex
October 3, 2007 - 22:43 ET by Cool ArrowYou got it. Long as s/he can buy votes with my money, the Liberal laughs all the way to the bank.
It's Lucy, Charlie Brown, and a football, at the drop of the first leaves. Charlie Brown ain't never gonna kick that ball, but Lucy gets all the kudos for knowing how to make a fool out of him.
~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~
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October 4, 2007 - 02:55 ET by old croRaddatz, who two weeks ago used a crying mother to push increased
spending, warned Wednesday that “the veto could have a profound impact.”
Yeah, President Bush will not be elected to another term in office!
What really bugs me about this is that the specious argument the left uses to justify giving away the money is "We spend x amount of dollars on Iraq, but we can't afford to help these poor children."
Well, if we do divert the money from the WOT, that will only mean our children are healthier when thier throats are cut.
"Somebody hits me, I'm going to hit him back. Even if it does look like he
hasn't eaten in a while." {after blatantly elbowing an Angolan basketball
opponent in the Olympics}.
-Charles Barkley
This is going to be a more
October 4, 2007 - 06:36 ET by motherbeltThis is going to be a more shameful display than they put on over the "school lunch" thing. Not only do the news stories neglect to mention that this "increase" means covering "kids" up to 25 years old, but in families with $80,000 a year in income,(why would any parent spend several hundred dollars a month for their employer's health plan, when they can get it for free?), they are portraying it as Bush "vetoing health care for children." That's right, that Halliburton loving, war-mongering, oil-money-loving president doesn't care if your kids DIE. He's going to spend that money on WAR, (more) killing, and give it to his BIG OIL friends! They are also deliberately implying that he is taking away something.
Jack Cafferty (MSNBC): Why would he veto a bill providing health insurance for children?"
Charlie Gibson, ABC: Not often you'll see one take a stand against a proposal providing
health insurance for children. But that's what President Bush did today,
"Families USA" activist to Martha Raddatz, ABC: “Having it taken away [sic] would be devastating. You can't do that to children. It's not right.”
Shameful. Just shameful.
Another Great Example . . .
October 4, 2007 - 06:43 ET by King of the BritonsThis is just another great example of how a hand-out entitlement given by politicians becomes a basic human 'right.' Government, again, has made things worse instead of better and now believes that it needs more money to make things even worse (or in their power-hungry minds - better). The politicians in D.C. are loathesome, contemptible power-whores. It makes me literally sick to think about how these dishonest, selfish, elitists take my money and give it to others so that they can stay in power. It is only a matter of time before our proverbial chickens come home to roost. Our deficit spending, socialist, immoral ways simply cannot continue without consequence. I fear for my children.
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!´´
--Patrick Henry
No bodies, so now Babies!
October 4, 2007 - 07:04 ET by PawpawNIt's from the Lib Playbook! Since there are no bodies now to parade since things going so much better in Iraq, they go back to the "PARADE OF BABIES"!! Remember we're told over and over that REPUBS do not care for the children, do not care for the elderly, do not care for the poor!! It's just straight from the LIB playbook. we see and hear it every year, now will just hear it every day!!
}}---> Ultimate hypocrisy
October 4, 2007 - 07:11 ET by Cool ArrowHere we have Liberals demanding Conservatives provide care for the children of Liberals whose parents won't support them.
Did I miss something?
~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~
This is exactly what I
October 4, 2007 - 09:08 ET by SmartypantsThis is exactly what I thought. Missing in all of this is the idea that maybe, just maybe, parents should make a point of providing for the needs of their own children. Once again, however, the left has successfully taken parents out of the debate on an issue related to children.
What a mess!
October 4, 2007 - 08:31 ET by mytwocentsGod, how I despise Ted Kennedy and Harry Reid! This whole lot of pandering idiots has to be voted out somehow.
Just a cotton pickin' minute!
October 4, 2007 - 09:30 ET by CrashYou mean to tell me that my son can't get "free" healthcare, the same son who at fourteen paid income tax at my tax rate because he lives under our roof?
SHOCKING I SAY!!!
Equality for all punch a liberal.