ABC News Paints Suspicious Men on Ferry as Victims of 'Ethnic Profiling'

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Washington State authorities and the FBI on Monday released photos, taken by the captain of a Pugent Sound ferry, of two men that passengers and crew saw acting suspiciously -- taking photos of doorways, for instance -- but Thursday's Good Morning America seemed more concerned about “ethnic profiling” than identifying the potential terrorists who had been seen on up to a half-dozen ferries. “The case is raising concerns about security. But it's also raising concerns about possible ethnic profiling,” declared news reader Kate Snow. Reporter Neal Karlinsky asked: “Are these two men terrorists casing the boats for attack?” or “are they totally innocent passengers, the victims of ethnic profiling?” After noting their suspicious behavior, Karlinsky characterized them as victims: “But the men are not accused of anything, leading the Muslim community to wonder, what if the two men did not appear to be of Middle Eastern descent?” Aziz Junejo, Seattle Muslim Community spokesman, asserted: “To point that person out because of the features of a Middle Easterner is just plain wrong.” Karlinsky concluded: “The FBI says the huge ferry system is among the most vulnerable maritime targets in America. The question is, are these men a threat, or just victims of a jittery public?”

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That we may never know, since the Seattle Post-Intelligencer has refused to print the pictures of the men and the Seattle Times waited a day to do so. (Previous NB posts on this topic)

In his Wednesday “Best of the Web Today” posting/e-mail for OpinionJournal.com, James Taranto provided a humorous overview of the Seattle Post-Intelligencer's reasoning. Check Taranto's post for all the links for what he quoted. A reprint of his lead August 22 item:

Don't Look Now

We begin today with a public service announcement from the Federal Bureau of Investigation:

The Seattle FBI and the Washington Joint Analytical Center (WAJAC) are requesting the public's assistance in identifying the two individuals pictured below. These men have been seen aboard Washington State Ferries on several occasions and have exhibited unusual behavior, which was reported by passengers. While this behavior may have been innocuous, the FBI and WAJAC would like to resolve these reports.

If you can identify these individuals, or know their whereabouts, please call: 206 622-0460

The Seattle FBI and the Washington Joint Analytical Center (WAJAC) are requesting the public's assistance in identifying the two individuals pictured [nearby]. These men have been seen aboard Washington State Ferries on several occasions and have exhibited unusual behavior, which was reported by passengers. While this behavior may have been innocuous, the FBI and WAJAC would like to resolve these reports.

You can click on the photos above or the link atop this column to go to the press release, which has the full pictures.

As the FBI notes, these men may be completely innocent; the bureau simply would like to find out who they are to make sure nothing is amiss. After all, as David McCumber, managing editor of the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, notes, "according to a Justice Department inspector general's assessment, Puget Sound's ferries were the nation's No. 1 target for maritime terrorism. This may well be a case of alert citizens spotting a very real threat."

Accordingly, the P-I is . . . not publishing the photos. Seriously! McCumber explains:

The P-I ran a story about the FBI's alert, but did not run the photographs, because we didn't have enough information to warrant it. I hope that today we are able to get more information on this story, if it exists, from the FBI that would give us a clearer idea of the background behind their request.

Based on what we have, it seemed newsworthy that the FBI was trying to find these guys but it did not seem appropriate to run their photographs.

The FBI released the photos Monday afternoon, and the Seattle Times, like the P-I, declined to publish them yesterday. Today, however, the Times concluded that it did have enough information to publish the photos:

"They were taking photographs of doors, not seabirds," said U.S. Coast Guard Lt. Cmdr. Richard Hartley in Seattle.

[FBI agent David] Gomez said employees and passengers reported the incidents over several weeks this summer. In at least one instance, they asked questions about ferry operations, Gomez said. It wasn't until analysts looked through the reports that a pattern was seen, he said. Since then, the FBI has concluded "four to six" of the incidents were related and involved the same two men. . . .

"We are able to resolve the great majority of reports of suspicious activities on the ferries," Gomez said. "We have not been able to do that here." The decision to release the photographs publicly was vetted with bureau officials in Washington, D.C., and demonstrates just how serious the potential threat is being taken, he said.

Perhaps the Times just did a better job reporting the story than the P-I did, but in any case the newspapers' reluctance to publish the photos is hard to understand. If the men are up to no good, then obviously it is in the public interest that they be caught. If they are up to no bad, it is in both the public interest and their own that they be identified and cleared.

If the latter is true, then one may argue the FBI should not have released the photos -- but the bureau had already done so, and the question cannot be resolved without identifying the men.

The Times report notes one source of objection:

The release of the photos enraged some in the Arab-American and Muslim communities, said Aziz Junejo, who hosts an Islamic talk show on television and writes a column about Islam for The Seattle Times.

He called the release "careless" and said he has been inundated with complaints that the FBI is profiling Arab-Americans. He said the photos appear to be of two Arab-American men.

"The people I'm hearing from are outraged and angry and paranoid," he said. "They're afraid to ride the ferries now."

But this is illogical. The FBI is not looking willy-nilly for "Arab-Americans," but for two individual men whose behavior raised a red flag, and who may or may not be of Arab heritage.

In any case, the P-I's very serious weighing of this very serious issue was belied yesterday when it ran -- we're not kidding -- a haiku contest. Wrote the paper's Monica Guzman:

As the story develops today, what concerns you most: The possible threat to security? The way the alert was released? Something completely different? Put it in a three-line, 5-7-5 syllable bit of pop haiku for today's contest.

Today Guzman issues a mea culpa:

While the Big Blog mixes fun and news on a daily basis, in this case we undermined a serious issue and a serious debate, and made it seem as if we in the newsroom didn't acknowledge its importance.

We're a little disappointed, because we came up with a funny haiku about the P-I. Oh well, we'll save it for another time.

END of Taranto

Friday's Seattle Times reported:

FBI gets 200 tips over ferry photo

The FBI says it has received more than 200 leads and tips after the publication of a photograph of two men seen acting suspiciously on several Washington state ferries.

While the men have not been identified, Special Agent Larry Carr said Thursday that the bureau is hopeful "that we'll be able to have this matter resolved soon." Carr declined to say more.

The FBI earlier this week released two photographs of the men taken last month aboard an unidentified Puget Sound ferry.

The photos were shot by the boat's captain after complaints that the men were acting strangely.

FBI analysts concluded the same men were seen on between four and six different ferries.

The MRC's Scott Whitlock caught the August 23 Good Morning America story aired during the 8am news update:

KATE SNOW: The FBI is publicizing the pictures of two men who have reportedly been acting suspiciously onboard ferries in Washington State, allegedly taking unusual pictures and asking questions about how the ferries operate. The case is raising concerns about security. But it's also raising concerns about possible ethnic profiling. Our Neal Karlinsky explains.

NEAL KARLINSKY, OVER VIDEO OF PICTURES ON A WALL: Aboard Washington State ferry boats this morning, a question: Are these two men terrorists casing the boats for attack?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE FERRY PASSENGER: It's pretty scary, actually, a little disconcerting.

KARLINSKY: Or are they totally innocent passengers, the victims of ethnic profiling? The FBI says it posted the pictures after passengers on a half dozen ferry runs reported seeing the two men acting suspiciously. Taking pictures aboard these ferries isn't unusual. After all, it is beautiful here. What concerns the FBI is what these men were allegedly taking pictures of. They were reportedly photographing doorways and other areas. A ferry employee considered them suspicious enough to take their picture and for passengers to report seeing the pair doing the same thing on other ferry runs.

ROBERTA BURROUGHS, FBI: If you'd like to say we're profiling particular behavior, I'm comfortable with that, because this is behavior that people felt uncomfortable with.

JEFF KELSO, PASSENGER WEARING A BOSTON REX SOX CAP: I mean, I don't know how many people, you know, go on a trip and come home with a picture of a doorway on a ferry.

KARLINSKY: But the men are not accused of anything, leading the Muslim community to wonder, what if the two men did not appear to be of Middle Eastern descent?

AZIZ JUNEJO, SEATTLE MUSLIM COMMUNITY SPOKESMAN: To point that person out because of the features of a Middle Easterner is just plain wrong.

KARLINSKY: The FBI says the huge ferry system is among the most vulnerable maritime targets in America. The question is, are these men a threat, or just victims of a jittery public? For Good Morning America, Neal Karlinsky, ABC News, Seattle.

—Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center


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May I just say...

If you haven't watched Carlos Mencia's "Not for the Easily Offended" you MUST do so!  It is hysterical and absolutely and totally on the money about this - profiling - and other subjects. 

"Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war"  - Shakespeare

what if the two men did not appear to be of Middle Eastern

Well then they wouldnt look like most terrorists.

The fox approves of the hen

The fox approves of the hen house security plan.

and for doing such a good

and for doing such a good job with security, the fox has presented the hens with a special gift box of seasoning salts, potatoes, carrots and a nice big cooking pot.

<insert witty signature here>

Morons

Had these two guys committed an act of terrorism, then the story would've been about Bush's failure to keep us safe.

Kucinich/Paul '09

I am new to this forum, so

I am new to this forum, so to all hello!

It is very important that we do not offend anyone until they actually blow something up. That way we can be absolutely sure of their real intentions.   

Join the Team

You sound like Ron Paul.

Kucinich/Paul '09

Indeed!

...and who to blame! 

"Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war"  - Shakespeare

Profiling only helps democracy

therefore we dont do it.

By all means search the grannies and the toddlers...

The test is easy as ABC

I'd like to hire 2 middle eastern looking men to hang out in the lobby of the ABC studios. One can take pictures of exits and entrances and the other can start and stop a stopwatch over and over again.

I wonder what they'd decide to do at the ABC studios?

what they always do

surround them with security guards and then "escort" them off the premises...right through the plate glass window

 

Oh sorry...I thought you meant What do they do with commentators who espouse conservative views on air...MY BAD.

Wrong!

They would be excorted onto a set where the host would ask them questions like: Why do you dislike America?.. What should America do to receive your forgiveness?..

Kucinich/Paul '09

Or

Are you a spy sent by Fox News to expose our "bias"?...

Are you really working for the VRWC? Talk before we give you the "ole gitmo treatment"!!

Why, I thought youd never ask!

Much more complicated than that!

Maybe it would be a little more complicated for ABC:

They look middle eastern, so we could be accused of profiling.

They could be gay, we could be accused of being homophobic.

They could be in the process of changing their sex, we could be accused of being anti gender re-asignment.

Sucks to be a lib

I feel I've caused offense

please dont behead me you 2 angry looking guys looking over your shoulders at the back of the boat holding what appears to be a RPG7 rocket launcher and a RPD light machine gun chambered in 7.62X38...

I was only going to ask if you were asking the captain for simple directions to the tomb of Jimi Hendrix  by shoving the muzzle of your machine gun into the base of his neck...

But you accuse me of PROFILING 

 

ABC

Good good good good good idea!!!! I can't stop laughing. ABC should get some new call letters ....how about SOF (ship of fools)??

Why is it "ethnic profiling"

Why is it "ethnic profiling" and not "racial profiling"? BTW anyone who knows anything about law enforcement will tell you that creating a profile is vital. You see you must identify the suspect before you can arrest / question him. I don't know how Dems and the MSM got away with making profiling evil. Profiling is critical. If you are not creating a profile of the subject you are not doing everything you can to catch him.

Jim… My point exactly. 

Jim… My point exactly.  If you don’t know the suspect and how he acts then how do you expect to catch him?  This is a tool to help us stop an incident before it happens. 

Also let me point out that the captain and passengers reported the activity.  There was no FBI agent on the fairies looking for these guys.  The people reported it and the FBI is looking into it.  How does that make it “ethnic” profiling by the FBI?

In a post 9/11 world I could care less if ABC or the Arab community is offended 

The only thing you should feel when shooting insurgents is the rifle recoil.

 

How about glee??

glee and recoil

It is all I feel.  The

It is all I feel. 

The only thing you should feel when shooting insurgents is the rifle recoil.

 

AF5, was this a fruedian

AF5, was this a fruedian slip "There was no FBI agent on the fairies"  Hmmph faries indeed are you saying all ME men are faries, homosexual?

 Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

The reason the MSM and

The reason the MSM and Democrat Party hate profiling...is because it works!! 

It is curious that when a member of Congress notes that if something looks like a duck, sounds like a duck and walks like a duck, well then it must be a duck.  Isn't that profiling??   Granted that not all middle eastern looking men are terrorists and not all terrorists are middle eastern, but a whole big bunch are.  It reminds me of something my Dad told me...he said the race doesn't always go to the swift nor the fight to the strongest, but that's the way to bet.

All the terrorists have been..wait for it.... MUSLIM!

Thats why, you superficial TWIT.  These people are so deranged it boggles the mind.  My father works for government miltary contracting.  Guess what happens to all o fthe resumes that have "ahmed" or some such name on them?  RIGHT IN THE TRASH.  And yes, he knows the difference between muslim names and Hindu names. 

The muslims brought this on themselves.  CAIR and every other muslim/american cummunity can kiss my ass.  Why don't you stand up an denounce terrorism instead of insisting that you should just be trusted blindly?  Im sorry, but until I see some major Muslim figure heads stand up and denounce this crap, my ethnic profiling will continue. 

Dead Americans, or 'offended' muslims?  Take your pick!

The American Revolution Continued

I like

Defend America or OFFEND Muslims

isnt that a oxymoron

All the terrorists have

All the terrorists have been ... wait for it ... MUSLIM!

Timothy McVeigh was Muslim?

~~~

Leadership is a potent combination of strategy and character. But if you must be without one, be without the strategy.

- N. Schwarzkopf

Mcveigh wasnt a terrorist

His agenda was Waco and all he wanted was revenge...nothing more.

Can you name another non muslim terrorist that hasnt been brow beat by the Left and the MSM?

 

Wait...The Atlanta Olympic bomber...ted kazinsky..the son of sam...ted bundy...the newark 6...el che...lenin...polpot...ho chi minh...chairman mao...fidel...

Wait...discount the last 8. the media love all of THEM

 

Terrorists want to set a precedent for their actions...they want you to learn from it.

Al Gore. Oh wait, he is

Al Gore.

Oh wait, he is all about revenge too.

Never mind.

McVeigh is an Anomaly!!!!

Right, 1 out of how many thousands?  Millions? 

That is such and OLD argument...  please

The American Revolution Continued

Hey, I agree that muslims

Hey, I agree that muslims fit the profile and should be scrutinized by security forces; I was just making the point that not every single terrorist ever was a muslim...

Who do you Trust

It comes down to a game of "who do you trust".  Would you rather rely on the judgment of Karlinsky and Snow, or FBI agents?

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

I have not heard an avalanch of Muslims denouncing terrorism as "against Islam". I have heard a few and half of those I do not believe.

Until shown otherwise by their actions, I have no recourse but to believe that the problem is Islam itself, and not some small radicle fringe group.

 

 

The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic

Profiling works for El Al Airlines

What ethnicity were those fellows that flew planes into the twin towers?

"Not for fame or reward, not for place or rank, not lured by ambition or goaded by necessity. But in simple obedience to duty." - From the barracks at Ft. Benning

Dude

Like how can a remote control have a ethnicity...

/Kos hat on

What if, what if, and what if?

What if Karlinsky and the news reader got a brain?

This is nothing new, and the

This is nothing new, and the media will continue to report it this way, until we have another 9/11.

Remember, the original 9/11 was almost partly prevented when an alert ticket guy at the Jetport in Portland Maine became extremely suspicious of Mohammed Atta and his colleague, who were boarding a feeder flight to Boston's Logan. But he bowed to PC and let them thru. The rest is history.

If he had actually stopped the guys, he'd be castigated for racial profiling. By guess who?

"Muslim" is an ethnicity???

That must mean that "Baptist" is an ethnicity to. Idiots...Morons... Soon Political Correctness will cost more lives. What an incredible shame. Happy Trails...

More adverse reaction from the public

What would cause a more adverse reaction?

The Seattle P-I publishes a story about two "Arab-looking" men possibly casing ferries, including taking pictures.  They do not, however, run the pictures of the men.  The passengers of the ferries them view ALL Arab-looking men with increasing mistrust, possibly causing real mistreatment of innocent Americans simply because they look Arab.

OR

The Seattle P-I publishes a story about two "Arab-looking" men possibly casing ferries, including taking pictures.  Along with the story are pictures of the two men, making them clearly identifiable.  Passengers on the ferries have faces to watch for, and the men are likely identified rather quickly.  In the event of a dangerous intent, the men are off the street.  In the event of simple misunderstanding, the men are released.  Either way, the public is aware and feels much safer.

OK, Seattle P-I.  You decided not to run the pictures.  You caused fear in the passengers on the ferries and potentially put their lives in danger.  But, hey, we wouldn't want to be accused of profiling.

"You put lives in danger.  Sweet dreams, son." - Col. Nathan R. Jessup

"There is a tendency for the world to say to America, 'the big problems of the world are yours, you go and sort them out,' and then to worry when America wants to sort them out." - Tony Blair

Ahhh....Good old msm

Ahhh....Good old msm strikes again....working for the enemy.

Oops wait a second...they too are the enemy.

Thank God for the Internet.

BT, my friend...

As I said earlier, by far the funniest outcome (now that "CAIR" is involved!) would be if they're somehow latino dudes with some sort of good excuse for being curious about large boats. I know, it's 99.9%-unlikely, but you have to admit, it'd be hilarious material for Carlos Mencia, Leno, Letterman, Colbert, Stewart, Red-Eye, etc. if it were somehow true.
JMR

Rally online with fans of Dr. Ron Paul.

Wary on the Ferry

The photos of these men have been all over the place for days now...yet the men shown in them have not come forward.

I would think that they would do so, if they were innocent of the allegation that they were scouting for a possible terror attack.

Surely, if they had a legitimate reason for being on that ferry, they would use this opportunity, CAIR style, to whine and complain about profiling.

 The silence is deafening...

I couldn't give a hoot less...

...if the people at CAIR are enraged over "ethnic profiling."  I was enraged when some Arab-looking men drove a boat-bomb into the USS Cole and killed a bunch of my shipmates; I was enraged when a bunch of Arab-looking men flew airliners into the World Trade Center towers; I was enraged when some Arab looking men drove a truck-bomb into the Marine Barracks in Lebanon and killed over two hundred of my brothers-in-arms; I was enraged when Arab-looking men engaged in hijacking an airliner shot Petty Officer (Diver) Stetham in the head and dumped his body out onto the ramp just to make a point!

And furthermore, I was enraged when a bunch of Arab-looking men engaged in hijacking the ocean liner Achille Lauro took a little old man out of his wheelchair and dumped him over the side; I am enraged every time an Arab-looking person straps plastic explosive around his waist and walks into an Israeli coffeeshop.  Need I go on?  Yes, I will...

I am enraged when a tiny, white-haired, 82 year-old great-grandmother from Evansville, Indiana is pulled from the line in Greater Cincinnati International Airport and is almost strip-searched because we don't want to hurt the feelings of Arab-looking men!  I'M SICK AND TIRED OF THIS!  I-DON'T-CARE-WHAT-CAIR-OR-ANYBODY-ELSE, INCLUDING-THE-LAMESTREAM-MEDIA-THINKS!  What has happened to good old common sense?

And now...y'all have a good Navy day!   

Sunrise at sea; a breeze across the deck, salty spray tickles the face, the aroma of fresh coffee, stack gas, and haze-gray paint is in the air.  Another Navy day aboard ship as a Navy Chief...the perfect life! 

Hate These Subject Lines

"or are they totally innocent passengers, the victims of ethnic profiling?"

For them to be "victims", don't they have to be found first? Nothing has happened to them yet, so how can they be "victims"? Furthermore, even if they are found, don't they have to be proven innocent, and have to, in some way, be harmed?

Our esteemed MSM "journalists" come up with the dumbest arguments and bend-over-backwards apologetics for their comrades stupid behaviors (like not publishing pictures that could save lives).