Warner Allows NBC to Again Hail Iraq 'Turning Point,' CBS: 'Major Blow' to Bush

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Republican Senator John Warner's call for the withdrawal of 5,000 troops from Iraq by Christmas was trumpeted by the broadcast network evening shows Thursday night: CBS's Katie Couric touted a “major blow tonight to President Bush's Iraq policy” and ABC's Martha Raddatz saw a “stunning announcement that could have a powerful effect on the war” as the NBC Nightly News, for the fifth time in two years, heralded a “turning point” against the war. NBC anchor Brian Williams introduced “another major story we're covering this evening that could amount to a turning point in the debate over America's involvement in Iraq. Tonight, there has been a major defection from President Bush's camp.” (This wasn't the first time Williams has hailed the prescience of the very same Senator. When Warner warned last October that Iraq was drifting “side-wise,” Williams teased: “Is this a new turning point?”)

After a report from Andrea Mitchell, which began with “Turning Point?” on screen, Williams compared Warner to Walter Cronkite, reminding Tim Russert about how during Vietnam President Johnson “famously said, 'If I've lost Cronkite, I've lost middle America.' Well, if George W. Bush has lost John Warner, how big is this, Tim?” Russert affirmed: “In a word: Very big.” Similarly, on the CBS Evening News, Bob Scheiffer declared that “John Warner is the single most influential Republican voice on Capitol Hill” and so his recommendation will “have a major impact.”

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Thursday's discovery by NBC of a “turning point” in Iraq was at least the fifth “turning point” or “tipping point” the NBC Nightly News has championed in the past two years. Back on July 9, Williams teased: “Tonight, is Iraq policy at a tipping point?” With “Tipping Point?” on screen, he proceeded to lead his broadcast with how “there are signs and signals and indications that a turning point may be nearing on U.S. involvement in the Iraq war” because of defections by Republican Senators. (July 9 NewsBusters item)

Two weeks earlier, when Senator Richard Lugar “broke with the President on the Iraq war,” Williams proposed: “Tonight many are wondering if we're witnessing the beginning of some kind of turning point?” Williams earlier teased the newscast with the same formulation: “Is this a turning point in the war?” (June 26 NewsBusters item)

NBC, however, has a poor record of picking Iraq war “turning” or “tipping points.” In August of 2005 the newscast hailed Cindy Sheehan's protest near Bush's ranch as a “turning point” (August 26, 2005 MRC CyberAlert item) and last October, when the very same Senator John Warner warned that Iraq was drifting “side-wise,” Williams teased the NBC Nightly News: “Is this a new turning point?” (October 6, 2006 NewsBusters post)

To show the flavor of the coverage of Warner's remarks, the MRC's Brad Wilmouth gathered the intros and other noteworthy portions of the Thursday, August 23 broadcast network evening newscast reporting (Only CBS led with Warner; ABC and NBC went first with flooding and drought, then to Warner):

NBC Nightly News:

BRIAN WILLIAMS: Now to another major story we're covering this evening that could amount to a turning point in the debate over America's involvement in Iraq. Tonight, there has been a major defection from President Bush's camp. The Senate's leading Republican on military matters, John Warner of Virginia, says it's time for the President to start ordering some troops to come home. He said that as this nation's spy agencies issued a grim new assessment saying Iraq's leaders currently are not up to the job. We'll start our coverage here with our chief foreign affairs correspondent Andrea Mitchell....

WILLIAMS, TO TIM RUSSERT: Tim, I was just thinking, during Vietnam, President Johnson, speaking about a television anchor, famously said, “If I've lost Cronkite, I've lost middle America." Well, if George W. Bush has lost John Warner, how big is this, Tim?

TIM RUSSERT: In a word: Very big. Why, Brian? Because of the prestige that Senator Warner has amongst his fellow Republicans...

CBS Evening News:

KATIE COURIC: Hello, everyone. A major blow tonight to President Bush's Iraq policy. When it comes to the war, no Republican in Congress carries more influence than Senator John Warner. And now, he's calling on the President to do something he has so far refused to do: set a timetable for starting a pullout of U.S. troops. Here's Bob Orr....

COURIC TO BOB SCHIEFFER: Bob, why is John Warner's new public position so significant, in your view?

BOB SCHIEFFER: I think in this case, Katie, it's the messenger, not the message, that is the important thing. John Warner is the single most influential Republican voice on Capitol Hill. He's a former Secretary of the Navy. If Republicans were in control of the Congress, he would be the Chairman of the Armed Services Committee. When he talks, other Republicans listen when he's talking about defense matters. So I think this will give other Republicans -- and there are a lot of Republicans, Katie, who have supported the President up to now on this -- who have had real reservations about it. When they hear John Warner say what he has just said, that gives them cover, and I think you'll see others follow here. It is significant he did not say let's set a withdrawal when all of them have to be out, a date certain when they have to be gone. That's the Republican plan. But he said it is time to start bringing them home. This is going to have a major impact, Katie.

ABC's World News:

FILL-IN ANCHOR ELIZABETH VARGAS: We turn now to Iraq and a blunt message for President Bush today delivered by one of the Senate's most influential Republicans. Virginia's John Warner says U.S. troops should start coming home before Christmas. Warner's statement comes the same day as a bleak new National Intelligence Report on Iraq, and less than a month before General David Petraeus delivers his crucial assessment of the war. Here's White House correspondent Martha Raddatz.

MARTHA RADDATZ: It was a stunning announcement that could have a powerful effect on the war. Even before the results of General Petraeus' report are known, Senator Warner is urging the President to use that September assessment to call for a draw down....

—Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center


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  You just know when

  You just know when President Bush wakes up in the morning he asks himself "What would John Warner do?"

  

love it MidAmerica

That is perfect satire. 5 stars *****

*HIC IACET ARTORIVS REX QVONDAM REXQVE FVTVRVS

Thanks

  Thanks... I'll be here all week, be sure to tip your waitress......

Yeah, the classic "If I have

Yeah, the classic "If I have lost Warner, I have lost America" ala Cronkite line the MSM has been frantically searching for....

No, he mopes around the

You just know when President Bush wakes up in the morning he asks himself "What would John Warner do?"

No, he mopes around the White House whining, "Woe is me....If I've lost John Warner, I've lost America."

Check with Warner.

LOL, checking with Warner would be a big improvement.

The MSM has settled on

The MSM has settled on their narrative - Iraq is lost - and nothing, no person, no event,  will dissuade them from that conclusion.

All statements, all actions, all events must be shoehorned to fit that storyline.

Fineman called it: The Media Party. They do everything a political party does except actually run candidates.

SMG 

 

 

 

True Colors


Fineman called it: The Media Party. They do everything a political party does except actually run candidates.

 

The terms "Partisan Press" and "Mediacrats" come to mind.

What is a John Warner?

These Republicans who keep screwing with the Iraq policy are going to be around to regret it when the blame gets shifted back on them.

Warner is about as much Republican as that skunk in the middle of the road from Vermont. Let him join Luger and Specter on the fossil pile of history.

Warner is about as big a dolt as Vionovich as in all probability 20,000 troops will be out by Christmas as the surge will be running into a new course by then.

These GOP fossils are the reason the Republican voters stayed home. The Conservative voters worked for 40 years since Goldwater to acheive what we have and these twirps threw it all away again for the second time. I would rather have 40 Joe Liebermans in the Senate voting correctly than 100 of these deluded Warner types who think what they say matters.

I will be the first to post it and admit it.....I just might vote Democrat in 2008........the ticket of course being Fred Thompson and Joe Lieberman.

Allot of America on both sides could live with a ticket like that waving bye bye to Warner and that Reid fossil on the left side.

 

*HIC IACET ARTORIVS REX QVONDAM REXQVE FVTVRVS

What is John Warner?

Oh, puhleeaase,

He's Mr. Liz Taylor the 7th, or 8th. 

I forget.  Not that I ever cared in the first place.

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

And it gets scarier-his

And it gets scarier-his first marriage was to a relative of the anti-Christ, Richard Mellon Scaife. Namely banking heiress Catherine Mellon

Del,

Sheesh....a serial (R) gigillo (sp?).

John Kerry redux.

No wonder he's cutting and running.

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Not only that, but he rose

Not only that, but he rose to political prominence because a political opponent died in a plane crash. Sound familiar? Except this time, the political opponent was from the same party.

John Warner is the single

John Warner is the single most influential Republican voice on Capitol Hill. -Bob Schieffer

Oh, right, the only reason other Republicans went along with Bush to begin with was because Warner did.

 

Flash to Bob Schieffer

Correction Bob.  John Warner is the SINGLE MOST INFLUENTIAL REPUBLICAN SENATOR FROM VIRGINIA.

John Warner is the single

John Warner is the single most influential Republican voice on Capitol Hill. -Bob Schieffer  

Hey Bob! Ya left off "because I said so."

  Ignorance is bliss. It's easier to repeat a mindless slogan than to do some actual research.

Taylor has been married

Taylor has been married eight times to seven husbands - Warner was 7th husband!

Conrad "Nicky" Hilton (May 6, 1950 - January 29, 1951) (divorced)
Michael Wilding (February 21, 1952 - January 26, 1957) (divorced)
Michael Todd (February 2, 1957 - March 22, 1958) (widowed)
Eddie Fisher (May 12, 1959 - March 6, 1964) (divorced)
Richard Burton (March 15, 1964 - June 26, 1974) (divorced)
Richard Burton (again) (October 10, 1975 - July 29, 1976) (divorced)
John Warner (December 4, 1976 - November 7, 1982) (divorced)
Larry Fortensky (October 6, 1991 - October 31, 1996) (divorced)

Warner

 Let Warner join all the rest of the women in the senate such as Snowe, Spector and Reid in opposing President Bush.  Warner, just another RINO currying favor with the MSM...these jellyfish never learn.  As the great Sage Coulter said "hand these liberals an olive branch, and they will smack you to death with it".

 2008 all RINO's must exit the scene.

Turning point, tipping

Turning point, tipping point what's your point?

Another RINO opens his fat yap, like he matters!

Looks like Warner is trying to appeal to the constituents in Northern Virginia....

-cs™

 

"The great enemy of the truth is very often not the
lie -- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth --
persistent, persuasive and unrealistic."

No news is good news?

Many of those tipping and turning points were, but the adgenda driven media missed them.

Good golly no wowie.

Oh, so let's see I've lost track. 135,000 plus troops - add the surge of 20k-30k - We're at 155,000 or whatever...it's around there...or higher - maybe a bit lower - I doubt it.

So, the brave groundbreaking news is someone yappered in "bi-partisan" mode that 5,000 - perhaps 3%... of the troops should be coming home for (oh... by) Christmas.

Gosh, I'm really not seeing the ground cracking wide open below my feet over this...

Whoo hoo - 3% ! It's a ground swelling !

I mean really libs, wrap the white towel around your head and face, so we don't see you crying.

The surge has so crushed the terrorists (10,000-12,000 whacked outa commission I read) that JW says 5,000 US WINNERS can spend Christmas in the USA. Now it's time, libs, to cry.

....Williams compared

....Williams compared Warner to Walter Cronkite, reminding Tim Russert about how during Vietnam President Johnson “famously said, 'If I've lost Cronkite, I've lost middle America.'

   If this is a true account then ol' Walter would be responsible for the democrats losing the next election and putting in the Republican Richard Nixon.  His comment had no effect on the wars conduct.

Another politician walks

Another politician walks out in front of the cameras, opens his mouth and watches as his foot fly into it.

Maybe it is a new strategy to get the Dems off the withdrawal, cut and run tactic?  You know since they oppose anything a republican says.

Oh who am I kidding.  Idiot.

The only thing you should feel when shooting insurgents is the rifle recoil.

 

Sick Sick SICK

I am so sick of these people. They are washington insiders with no sense of what is actually happening. Is there something wrong with good news from Iraq? Is there something wrong with WINNING the WOT? Is there something wrong with being proud of the USA? When I heard the dems and their rants, I thought I was loosing my mind. When they admitted that the surge was working, you know it must be turning around in Iraq if the dem's admit that we could be making progress.  But thats not enough for ol' JW, gotta steal some press, gotta have his moment in the camera.

BTW i thought GWB rocked at the VFW convention.  It was an awesome speech. 

 

Tired and bitchy man

 Johns just trying to

 Johns just trying to appeal to the libs of NOVA. He's long cashed in his credibility check, and decided staying in power means more to him than standing up for conservative principles. He's Virginias version of Alien Spectral.  (Arlen Specter).

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

                   - Ben Kenobi on  Liberals, and the MSM.

Warner

All I can say is: Shame, shame, shame.

Thanks, John. Way to go.

Motive?

The cynic might say that someone's got the goods on Senator Warner, and
he is being forced to say these things against his will, out of fear
that a deep, dark secret will be exposed if he doesn't acquiesce.

 

signed,

The Cynic

 

 

 

 

 

and if it doesn't bleed....

First off, hello to bigtimer, blonde, balboa ( :p ) the NB peeps Noel, et el.... been a member for much of '07, but sorry I don't log-in more and contribute, but I am on here every day :)

Just a semi-related matter to this blog, relating to the big skunk that is the MSM. Has anyone checked out the NY Times TWO headlines today? Besides the whole Warner getting top billing nonsense, this is even more proof POSITIVE that the MSM are simply NOT going to report the Iraq war in ANY WAY that will hint at us succeeding. As someone pointed out before, they are totally going to plan B -- political "strife" (either here or in the Iraqi gov't) -- as plan A (the battle on the ground) is not going as they wish. Here are headlines 1 and 2 at nytimes.com:

1) Report Raises Strong Doubt About Iraqi Government
2) More Iraqis Said to Flee Since Troop Rise

"If it bleeds, it ledes.... shoot, nothing's been bleeding for a while?... well, find something.... ANYTHING!!" *

* also check out CNN.com ... they put a war-torn boys face on the hoomepage... not a negative article, but that alone obviously manipulates people's feelings...

Go back in time, and you

Go back in time, and you will find the NY Times used to call the bad guys from the Middle East by a quaint word called "terrorist" whenever they gunned down innocent people at airports or on cruise ships, or when they hijacked planes, etc.

However. the "T" word mysteriously disappeared from the NY Times' lexicon in the mid 1990s. You connect the dots.

Oh, okay.  Now I get the

Oh, okay.  Now I get the joke in that one past installment of Gaggle.

-PJ

"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07 

A great phrase

There's a great phrase that always comes to my mind whenever I think of or see any of the esteemed Congress persons (and I'd give credit where credit is due but a google search of the phrase did not turn up anything very conclusive.  I thought it was Mark Twain...)

"Old women of both sexes"

When I see Warner or Murtha or Leaky Leahy or Pelosi, or any of the others, I see them all as old women with all the guts and glory of a geriatric little old lady ma'am shaking her bony little fist at the thugs running across her yard.  Outrage totally buried in weak and helpless squeeking.

"Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war"  - Shakespeare

And Warner's heir apparent

Is another RINO--Rep T. Davis who was one of the few Repubs who voted with the Dems on that worthless non-binding Iraq resolution back in the spring.

hey, no-one here pointed out...

"Tim Russert: In a word, very big"

Uh, Tim, that's two words....

OK, I checked....

John Warner is apparently a Senator from Virginia.  His picture is familiar to me though.  The question begs to be asked, now that Karl Rove is gone, will the media make John Warner the next arch villain power behind the scenes? 

I heard all the msm going

I heard all the msm going ga-ga for the POS Warner yesterday and this morning....

I have been sick and tired of Warner for years now...I have posted as such numerous times...

He is no friend of conservatives and he is not friend of Victory as far as I am concerned.

I have listened/watched his tactics for years now in the Senate.

I wished Allen would take his place.