So if you compare one situation, then suddenly all situation are comparable? Do they really think folks cant see right through this nonsense?

Where the liberal is invested, and it's never in the truth.

The problem here is Teddy Kennedy etc... in comparing Iraq to Vietnam were comparing the WAR.

Vietnam was conducted a stalemate attrition when US Marines took over for the failed French. Iraq was a liberation completed in several weeks.

Vietnam was then a series of kill zone actions against communist agents backed by Russia and China. Iraq was then a formed skirmish line around Baghdad to lure in Islamocommunist and Islamofascist terrorists from around the world to die there so they would not attack America, Europe or foment revolution in Muslim allied nations.

Vietnam was jungle warfare against thugs. Iraq was desert warfare against thugs.

In those facts, liberals were ignorant in comparing Vietnam ever to Iraq. I stated from the beginning that Iraq was an "Indian War" and it still is akin to the Ohio genocide on whites waged by Indians and the northern plains Indian wars from 1860 to 1890. (Let us never forget for those who might jump on it was the Indian's land, that the Sioux are Canadian Indians who invaded America and were committing genocide on the Pawnee, Ree, Mandan and had driven the Cheyenne out of the Black Hills.)

What is correct though in withdrawal of US forces as Democrats refused to uphold agreements between the South Vietnam Government and the United States resulted in a blood bath, millions of refugees, piracy, rapes, reeducation camps and pure murder by the communist North Vietnamese. The same type of first wave of slaughter would occur in Iraq if Democrats withdrew American forces.

Unlike Vietnam though, the second wave of slaughter would be triggered by WMD's in use either against American cities, European cities, Israeli state cities or Muslims cities. This is backed by Russia to destroy world oil supply thereby allowing them to blackmail Europe into submission and the nuclear polluting of the Middle East would remove America from the entire region forever.

In the key point, President Bush is correct in withdrawal of the United States from Iraq like Vietnam would result in horrendous bloodshed, but Iraq would be far worse.

Fred Thompson as I have advocated in economic policy must start conveying the results of what will happen if America withdraws, because it is not about going back in 10 years to do it again. It will be the only alternative Americans have left their president to respond is nuclear weapons as Americans by Democrat lead have shut off diplomacy, shut off Muslim self rule and shut off conventional war.

This is what is incorrect about Democrats and the few Republicans like Dr. Ron Paul. None of them have equated where this is going like a rocket on a rail. Madame Clinton is aware in her nuking Muslims, but a policy must be formulated as President Bush is attempting yet to keep this from going nuclear.

The terrorists of Iraq have now spread back home to their host nations and will start operations there to topple pro west regimes and they are already enroute to Europe and the United States to cripple our economic structure.

Unlike Vietnam though Iraq has an expansive China bribing US Democrats, sitting in Panama and shipping terrorists around the world along with their munitions. Russia too is providing intelligence to terrorist operations. This is not going to be Angola nor Grenada, but the wave will plunge into the United States.

I know the President and especially Mr. Cheney is apraised of the entire scenarios.....and one reason they are not so concerned about the Mexican illegals is the first time nuclear bombs go off in America the Mexicans are all going to go back to Mexico in mass. This American nation though is not prepared and this nation requires more aggressive policies. I have noted them before:

1. Restore the 7 year food reserve along with essential supplies.

2. Restore the state militias organized on township levels coordinated by govenors offices.

3. Take all those wasted billions on "global warming" scams and use them as tax credits and grants to move Americans to build fallout shelters and stock them, so they will not be looking to the government and the government then can be free to fight a war and not internal strife.

Those are 3 measures which the next GOP leader must make part of the platform to lead America.

Vietnam was a cake walk for what is coming from the foolishness of liberal puppets led by cartel bankers out of what has become Iraq policy is going to shake America to its core.

God bless the good and may He keep them in His care. In His Name Amen.

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I agree that these two wars have lots of similarities.

1.Jane Fonda and John Kerry are against it.

2.The press is trying to portray American soldiers as disillusioned psychotic baby killers.

3.The hippies are against it.

4. The left can't wait to retreat.

5.We hear nightly body counts.

6.If we leave now thousands and thousands will die but it will be called peace.

7.A Democratic led Congress is willing to sell out the American military.

8. Dan Rather thought he could take down another President.

9.Conspiracy theorists are calling it war for profit.

10.We are winning and  yet the left still wants to lose.

Victory in Iraq.

Newt for President.

 It is not nice for conservatives to point out to liberals, the truth!  As one poster pointed out, militarily we were winning.  We blew them away during Tet.  Guess who gave them back the momentum?  Walter Cronkite and the U.S. Congress.  Journalists and politicians playing military strategist.  So, to ice the cake after forcing our pullout in '73, congress passed a law preventing any funding at all of the forces of South Viet Nam, who had been doing pretty well as long as they had us supplying them (note that China & Russia were supplying the NVA).  This was after years of "Viet-Namization" following Tet, the goal of which was to help the South Viet Namese stand on their own feet and fight their own battles.  So what did we do?  Pull the rug out from under them!  No supplies or any other help other than what a few honor bound men were able to scrabble together.  The current similarity to Viet Nam is the radical, near insane left, the MSM and their blatant help to the enemy, and the Dumbocratic politicians who cannot tell the difference between George Bush and the face of evil, nor where their true loyalties should lie.  The similarity is that after forcing defeat followed by the death of millions that they refuse to take the blame for (as in the ultimate self congratulatory movie "The Killing Fields", that pretends to honor Dith Pran, but is really a pean to the New York Times and its "heroic"- gag- reporters).  The similarity is that they are hard at work again trying to force defeat.  I heard Joe Lieberman talking to Sean Hannity today; Sean says something about the great differences in their outlook on things, but NOT on THE defining issue of this generation, and Lieberman's reply was, "Amen, brother".

An article in American Thinker lays it out better than I can, Testing Congress:  Faith and Face by  Michael J. O'Shea.  Here is a brief excerpt:

It's a pathetic cycle. Congress's DNA is documented in Iraq, yet it denies paternity. It then claims the pregnancy's too tough and wants to abort. It next protests that lifting a people to life is too hard and opts to abandon them to play law of the jungle to see who will survive and not caring which one does.

Which Iraqi politician has not had a family member murdered? How many governors, mayors, and other officials themselves have been slaughtered? How many days has the Council of Representatives met without mortars shrieking towards their chambers? How many can relax with their families, dine with friends, confer with rivals without fearing this moment may be their last?

Yet Congress, pampered by the Capitol police and fighter pilots overhead if need be, preaches, comforted by press, protesters, "opinion makers" - anyone except those volunteering to fight back.

Congress has introduced resolution after resolution on Iraq - and not one has dealt with helping Iraq's parliament peer to peer, legislator to legislator. Justice, Agriculture, Defense, Treasury, Commerce, the Fed -- even the Iraqi-American Chamber of Commerce & Industry - have teamed with Iraqi counterparts to help them meet problems head-on.

But not Congress. It sermonizes and doesn't hear its own hypocrisy: politicians in America pontificating to politicians in Iraq that only a "political" solution will end Iraq's woes -  and taking not a single political step to help, offering not a scrap of practical political advice.

You should read this.  He is just getting warmed up!

"The future is not set.  There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."

You nailed it.  I was surprised to see this caused such a big deal because it is obvious what he is talking about.  The President is talking abpout the consequences of surrender and allowing murderous regimes to take over Iraq.  The msm has taken his comments and spun them to fit their own Vietnam template which is far different then what the President is talking about.  I know it is the template and it is contrived to control the news, but I would love to hear the administration take it to these talking heads and point out how ignorant they sound by twisting the President's words.   What a great opportunity to expose the bias in a context that everyone can easily understand.

The theater of the absurd that has always been the American political landscape has at last set off on the stygian ferry, the handbasket to hell.   Have we become so clinically insane that concerns for “political correctness” and a self-imposed fear of offending our enemies has transformed our beloved Constitution into a suicide pact?

 Tell me please just where I am wrong here.  Our enemies openly march in our streets declaring their hatred for us, and our way of life, carrying signs advocating murder for all those who would insult their religion.  But we must not complain about the enemy in our midst, that would be “profiling” based on religion or race, might infringe on their “free speech” rights or worse yet offend their religious sensibilities.    Hardly a week goes by without another attack against us by a Muslim individual openly declaring that they are doing Allah’s work while they maim and kill with wild abandon.  The reaction of the FBI in every case seems to be taken from the Wizard of Oz, “don’t look at the Imam behind the curtain, there’s no terrorism here, just the violent acts of deranged individuals”.  We are asked to believe that none of this has anything to do with these Imams preaching sermons of hatred on a daily basis.  In Iraq the fledgling government security forces are infiltrated with Jihadists who use the cover of their new uniform to sow havoc and death.  So of course the Administration is now advocating we allow 7000 so called refugees from Iraq to come here!  Yes sir we know exactly who each and every one of these people are and exactly what their motivations are!  Are the inmates are in charge of the asylum? It’s not bad enough that the back door of our southern border is a leaking sieve, where we now prosecute our Border Agents and local law enforcement officials for doing their jobs, not because they have committed a crime but because the Mexican government has complained that it’s citizens are being injured while they’re committing a crime!   Let’s open the front door then and let the murderers come in that way.  We’ll even give them papers saying it’s ok for them to be here!   Drunk with power, drooling buffoons called Congressman act as if simply walking away from our enemies will make everything ok.  Foolishly presuming that we are dealing with rational individuals rather than bloodthirsty, religiously fanatical murderers.   All of them, Republicans and Democrats alike, blissfully argue about the arrangement of the deck chairs, as the ship of state bears down on the iceberg hidden in the fog of war that many of them don’t even want to acknowledge exists. The animated rotten cadaver of Neville Chamberlain waves to us as we approach the opposite shore of the river Styx, while the twin siren songs of “Peace in our Time” and “War is not the answer” muffle the cries of those long dead, pleading to us to come to our senses before its too late.   

Just when will those cries be heard, and our elected official put their petty squabbles behind them and start acting like the defenders of the Constitution and the Republic that they have sworn to be?  Will it be before some unspeakable violent and evil act consumes thousands more, and they might be subject to question, scrutiny or even ridicule for that decision, or will it be after when we will all most assuredly be subject to histories condemnation for our failure to act in time?

Why do we pay any attention to these undereducated, self serving people?  Day after day they assult the viewers with their mindless nonsense. Although they are mistaken much of the time, they continue with their revisionist analysis. Our society and our people pay a dear price for this shoddy thing called the news; we pay with the erosion of our cultural values and belief. Some of them understand full well the consequences of their barrage, for that has been their intent. The rest continue with their routine, believing that they matter.