Broder Baffled Why Bush 'Against Providing Health Insurance for Kids'

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By Brent Baker | July 30, 2007 - 00:41 ET

Washington Post reporter and columnist David Broder, known as the “dean” of the Washington press corps, perfectly encapsulated, on Friday's Washington Week on PBS, the media establishment's more government spending is the answer to everything attitude when he acted bewildered as to how anyone could oppose a massive expansion of a federal health insurance program. When host Gwen Ifill raised how “Congress would like to double the number of children covered” by the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), Broder marveled at how “the President has threatened the veto, and everybody I've talked to in the administration this past week says take that threat seriously.” Broder equated federal spending with resolving a problem as he wondered: “I mean, who can be against providing health insurance for kids?” Talking over him, Ifill, a veteran of the New York Times and NBC News, echoed, “yeah.” Neither Ifill nor Broder noted the amount of the proposed additional spending Bush would veto: $50 billion.

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Broder did at least go on to explain how Bush “wants a much bigger change, a change that would involve rewriting the way in which we provide for deductions for health insurance, that would enable people to buy individual health insurance policies themselves. But he is opposed to anything that says federal government is going to underwrite more health insurance for more people. That, to him, is creeping socialism.” Maybe because it is.

The exchange on the July 27 Washington Week, provided by the MRC's Brad Wilmouth who corrected the closed-captioning against the video:

GWEN IFILL: Well, every other dispute we've talked about tonight is basically rooted in partisanship. But another looming clash has Republicans and Democrats on one side and the White House on the other. The disagreement is over the federally funded state children's health insurance program. Congress would like to double the number of children covered. The administration says that would simply cost too much. So is this all going to come to a head in a presidential veto, David?

DAVID BRODER: Well, the President has threatened the veto, and everybody I've talked to in the administration this past week says take that threat seriously. He's on possibly the worst possible domestic issue to which to threaten the veto. I mean, who can be against providing health insurance-

IFILL: Yeah.

BRODER: -for kids?

IFILL: So what's the reason?

BRODER: But he has drawn the line. Why has he drawn the line? Because in the seventh year of his presidency, he decided that he has his own way of reforming health care, and he is very frustrated that the Congress won't pay attention to the proposal that he has put. He wants a much bigger change, a change that would involve rewriting the way in which we provide for deductions for health insurance, that would enable people to buy individual health insurance policies themselves. But he is opposed to anything that says federal government is going to underwrite more health insurance for more people. That, to him, is creeping socialism.

PETE WILLIAMS: Is it the coverage for children or is it their concern that it also covers parents and it's beginning to spread it around more than just children?

BRODER: Well, the program is primarily for children. But because states have been encouraged by the administration for the last six years to use this money in creative ways, the states, many of them, have said we'll not only take care of the kids, but if their parents aren't insured, we will extend the insurance to the uninsured parents. The idea being the more people you can provide coverage for, the better. The President now says we want to draw the line, it should be only for children and only for the poorest children.

—Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center

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}}}----> Broder's foolishness

It never stops.

Broder and Edwards and Hillary and all those slave masters see nothing but keeping the poor on the plantation.  Try rising above it and new taxes drag you back, or ruin the industry in which you're involved.

I'm so tired of watching these thieves walking away with my hard earned money gettin' their share before I have time to pay God and the Electric company.

Let just one of these ignorant liberal sons of bitches try to tell me I would have been better off sucking from the government tit for the last 33 years rather than maintaining my personal and family dignity getting up for work every day and buying food with what's left of my check.

These useful narrow

These useful narrow thinkers also never mention one of the reasons health care is costly--beyond the fact that nothing is "free," and that is the overwhelming trial lawyer legal extortion over the past few decades.  Make the loser pay.  Hire professional jurors.  Make certain every judge is qualified.   

Liberalism is a convenient lie.

}}}----> And hidden costs

Ain't nobody going to tell me Doctors and Hospitals don't tack the deadbeat costs onto their paying patients.  We are already footing the bill for indigent care.  We're just trying to let the freeloaders feeeel good about themselves.

Of course there are the poor and helpless.  Of course there should be temporary help for them, even permanent help for some.  There are always exceptions.  I just don't want them to become the rule.

David Broder's unflinching support for a bigger nanny state.

Two observations here:

1) Isn't it funny (not really) that every time the big-government nanny-state advocates want to bring about yet another program that will increase the size and scope of the federal government, they always use children to shame us all into coughing up the money.

2) It's really too bad George W. Bush didn't whip out the veto pen far earlier in his presidency. Had he done so, it is just possible that the democrats would not now be in control of the congress.

Help Fred defeat everybody.

More money

Giving your quarterback more money won't make him complete more passes. If your quarterback isn't completing enough passes, you have to replace the quarterback. Giving him more money only makes the failure more expensive. Adding more money to the existing system won't fix the system. It will only make its failure more expensive. You have to change the system itself.

}}}----> KC's analogy

You're right in concept, KC.  Except it seems the QB never gets fired.

Welfare begets more welfare.  We know it, and the Trollocrats know it too.  I'm just hoping they don't discover their constituents care more about dogs than kids.

How about a timetable to withdraw from this 40 year "War on Poverty"?  LBJ won't care, he's probably tired of staying up late every night lighting the goat man's cigars.

Do you ever hear a Dem claiming their strategy against poverty is working? No.  They're busy lining their pockets with money promised to "the children"

Accountability

Good points, CA.

I heard Chuck Schumer rambling on the Sunday talk show yesterday, piously intoning the line that Congress must hold the president accountable.

If I was the presidential speechwriter, I'd take that line and use it for Bush. I'd have Bush argue that his veto is the constitutional method of keeping Congress accountable (which it is, but it's never explained that way). "The bill before me today does nothing to fix the actual problems, and we must hold Congress accountable for its failure to address the real issues." Then I'd repeat "hold Congress accountable" in as many ways as possible. Hammer it home.

}}}----> The holy grail

The holy grail of legislation (the line item veto) needs to be broached again.  When legislators refuse to stand up individually for pork they have authored, it's time to demand personal accountability.

That secret ballot stuff is nonsense when it comes to taking my money and selling out my protectors, my soldiers, my law enforcement, and my border guards.

May God judge seriously and soon any legislator making backhanded backdoor deals with our enemies.

I continue to suspect

I continue to suspect Presidents during my lifetime do not want the responsibility inherent in a Line Item Veto as much as they claim to want it. I'd love one to prove me wrong, but I ain't holdin' my breath...
JMR

I always thought that Reagan

I always thought that Reagan did. He wasn't afraid to take that responsibility. My only argument about the Line Item veto is strategic. Congressmen would then be more inclined to add pork, knowing they could always blame the president for not taking it out. After all, the Line Item power means you have to approve every line. But you're probably right, most of them don't want it. I doubt Bush's current budget record shows much inclination to use it. 

Cigarette's to fund this

Cigarettes are the source of the funding for this....we need 22 million new smokers to fund this program yet cigarette sales are the lowest it has been since 1951.  To top that off, as this debate rages, Senators call for stronger cigarette warnings, which has proven effective in discouraging new smokers. 

Redesigning SCHIP to Strengthen Private Health Insurance for Working Families:

Isn't there a bit more to report than Bush hates kids?

}}}----> Another puff

We better get to puffing  because we can't afford all the healthy old people we're gonna have in a few years.

SinTax error

Typical Congressional Math

The veto threat isn't over the idea of an increase, but rather the size of one. Bush favors a $5 billion increase, Congress ten times as much, so of course Bush must be against the whole idea of health care for children.

Too bad it's not a

Too bad it's not a veto-threat against the idea of an increase in the size of big government, but that might just be a part of our problems...
JMR

Agreed.

The idea that the government should be doing this is a foregone conclusion in the debate. And bear in mind, this isn't Medicaid we're talking about, but a supplemental program for families that make too much to qualify for Medicaid. Anyone who doesn't see this as further governmental intrusion into health care isn't paying attention, or isn't telling the truth.

This all smells pretty

This all smells pretty foul.  The truth is that parents and companies provide health insurance for about 92% of the kids in this country.  And about 3% of kids will never get covered, even by free insurance, because their parents are too screwed up or lazy to get them signed up.  So that leaves about 5% of the kids uncovered.  Medicaid for kids already covers most of these kids, but many states don't expend the money allotted to them due to lack of promoting the program, lack of management, etc., so a lot of that money gets diverted to other programs so it doesn't get sent back to the Feds.

So I really have to wonder why there would be a need to provide $50 billion bucks to cover kids?  We're talking about 3.7 million kids here, so that $50 billion provides about $13,500 to insure each kid... that's some expensive premiums folks!

What Broder And Ifill Don't Want You To Know

The following texts' content could have very easily been included as one of the comments on the program.  I have no doubt that either or both Broder and/or Ifill were aware of these facts but choose to willfully exclude them from their comments in order to pursue their agenda(s).  Why do we pay for PBS out of our tax dollars? 

 

 

AMNews staff. July 9, 2007. 

(http://www.ama-assn.org/amednews/2007/07/09/gvsd0709.htm)

Washington -- Fewer uninsured children are eligible for the State Children's Health Insurance Program than previously estimated, says a new Health & Human Services analysis released last month.

Between 689,000 and 794,000 uninsured children are eligible for SCHIP but not enrolled in the program, according to the study, conducted by the Income and Benefits Policy Center of the Urban Institute, a nonpartisan policy analysis organization.

In contrast, many widely reported calculations, including reports by other Urban Institute staff, conclude that there are 1.7 million to 2 million children who qualify for the program but lack any coverage. This is out of a nationwide total of about 9 million uninsured youngsters. SCHIP covers about 6 million children.

 

 Note the next one's date:  So fresh it's from the future! 

 

AMNews staff. Aug. 6, 2007. 

(http://www.ama-assn.org/amednews/2007/08/06/gvsb0806.htm)

Washington -- Add the State Children's Health Insurance Program to the list of issues on which Congress and President Bush fundamentally disagree.

On July 17, Bush promised to veto a bipartisan Senate SCHIP reauthorization bill to increase the program's five-year funding by $35 billion, from $25 billion to $60 billion. The measure, approved 17-4 by the Senate Finance Committee on July 19, with six Republicans voting in favor, would allow another 3.3 million uninsured children to gain coverage. SCHIP now covers 6 million children.

The veto threat cast a shadow over the Senate bill, a compromise carefully negotiated over several weeks. The measure backed away from the $50 billion boost, for total five-year funding of $75 billion, approved by House and Senate lawmakers May 7 in their budget resolution.

House leaders were expected to stick with the $50 billion funding increase in their SCHIP reauthorization legislation, said a House Energy and Commerce Committee aide. At press time, that measure was scheduled for a committee vote on July 25.

Bush said he views the Senate bill as an attempt to federalize health care. He also objected to lawmakers' plan to raise the extra $35 billion by increasing the national cigarette tax by 61 cents to $1. "If Congress continues to insist upon expanding health care through the SCHIP program -- which, by the way, would entail a huge tax increase for the American people -- I'll veto the bill," Bush said.

 

Hooray Bushie!

Killing them with kindness isn't working.  Time to get scrappy with the Donkeys.

Why now?

I guess I have to ask, if it's so awful that we are not going to provide universal health care then why didn't the dems do it when they had control of congress and the presidency? Wasn't this a problem when Pres Clinton took office? What about when Pres. Kennedy and Pres. Johnson took office? Why now? Is this a newly discovered "right" that the government must provide? I guess the progressive movement really equates to ever more progressive taxes.