Politico's Evan Thomas: U.S. a 'Great Giant' That Was Going to 'Stomp on Somebody' After 9/11
On PBS's Inside Washington on Friday, the Politico's Evan Thomas - formerly of Newsweek - characterized the United States as a "great giant" that would go on to "stomp on" other countries after the 9/11 attacks.
After substitute host Mark Shields introduced a segment on the 10th anniversary of the war in Afghanistan by asking how history would "judge" the military operation, he turned to regular panel member Thomas who responded with a questionable choice of words:
As a tragedy that was inevitable. Once you had 9/11, we, the United States, the great giant United States was going to go stomp on somebody. And they, one of the first places they stomped was Afghanistan. But once they are in we can't get out, and I think we need to get out. But I just think once you go in and we just got stuck there and I see it not so much as anything other than a tragedy, inevitable tragedy.
Fellow panel member and right-leaning columnist Charles Krauthammer took exception with Thomas's word selection and soon responded:
Evan's implication was somehow we wanted to show our manliness in attacking Afghanistan. There wasn't an act of manliness. It was an act of self-defense. Al-Qaeda was active in there, it planned out of there, and we smashed them and we dispersed them.
Below is a transcript of the relevant portion of the Friday, october 7, Inside Washington on PBS:
MARK SHIELDS: That's Army Specialist Anthony Cook from Largo, Florida, explaining his mission in Afghanistan 10 years after U.S. forces entered that troubled country to topple the Taliban. There are now about 90,000 Americans among the 130,000 NATO troops in Afghanistan. They are scheduled to leave by the end of 2014. Evan Thomas, how will history judge this operation?
EVAN THOMAS, POLITICO: As a tragedy that was inevitable. Once you had 9/11, we, the United States, the great giant United States was going to go stomp on somebody. And they, one of the first places they stomped was Afghanistan. But once they are in we can't get out, and I think we need to get out. But I just think once you go in and we just got stuck there and I see it not so much as anything other than a tragedy, inevitable tragedy.
SHIELDS: Charles, how can you nation build a country where you've got 72 percent of Afghans over the age of 16 who are illiterate and the second highest infant mortality rate in the world?
CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER, COLUMNIST: You can't. That's the lesson of the Afghan War. Evan's implication was somehow we wanted to show our manliness in attacking Afghanistan. There wasn't an act of manliness. It was an act of self-defense. Al-Qaeda was active in there, it planned out of there, and we smashed them and we dispersed them. We've had a remarkable success against al-Qaeda. The problem is when you topple a government, you've got to replace it. And we did well in Japan and Germany, in other places. In a place like Afghanistan, there isn't a nation, and in the first couple of years it was quiet until about '05, '06, and then the Taliban had returned. And I would agree, I think it's a question that India ought to look at. I mean, I'm not sure it's our responsibility.
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Submitted by gfrrman on Fri, 10/07/2011 - 11:45pm.
like Evan Thomas I guess we were just supposed to twiddle our thumbs and do nothing???
What a STUPID(by definition) a-hole!!! geez...
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This is why NB's should post e-mail addys of
Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 10/07/2011 - 11:57pm.
Jerks like this, lets make it easy to make them here us.
Wha-?
Submitted by rammingspeed on Sat, 10/08/2011 - 12:50am.
Why does Evan Thomas believe it's a good idea to think with his feces? I'm just askin'
Evan Thomas is deplorable.
Submitted by motherbelt on Sat, 10/08/2011 - 7:43am.
I guess he thinks Obama, who, as he once said stands above the country, above – above the world, he’s sort of God"
would not have been so crass. He would have gone to the United Nations and given a speech, and all would have been well.
Perhaps, standing above the country, he would have given a dissertation, a la Rev. Wright, although with more dignified theatrics, of our sins which caused them to hate us so, before apologizing, and begging, a la Rodney King, Can't we all just get along?
What an America-hating embarrassment.
I said it before. . .
Submitted by DontFeedTheTrolls on Sat, 10/08/2011 - 9:04am.
And I will say it again, instead of conventional war, we should have sent out assassin groups to target al-Qaeda members and Imams (right in their own damn Mosques if necessary) who were espousing attacks on America and our allies, BUT, we have too many sissified politicians and citizens who would squeal like pigs if Bush had done that. The cost in lives and material would have been greatly reduced.
All hindsight, and all if we lived in a perfect world where Americans actually stood up for America.
Don't Feed The Trolls That should have been...
Submitted by Redrowan2000 on Sat, 10/08/2011 - 7:20pm.
the 2nd thing we did. The first thing we should have done was use tactical nuclear strikes. We knew where the scum was and we shouldn't have wasted another American life. 2 things would have been accomplished 1- a splattered Osama, 2 we wouldn't have to worry about another 911.
"Don't let the bastards grind you down"
Notice -
Submitted by Ashrak on Sat, 10/08/2011 - 10:54am.
Charles says "We" while Evan says "They".
The enemy within really does identify themselves, if We listen to what "they" actually say.
We did it here
Submitted by CobraMan on Sat, 10/08/2011 - 12:59pm.
"Charles, how can you nation build a country where you've got 72 percent of Afghans over the age of 16 who are illiterate and the second highest infant mortality rate in the world?"
Well, we managed to do that here, even though the same, shall we say, "limitations" applied. The problem most people seem to have is the length of time involved in such an endeavor. Well, America, as we know it today, didn't just appear overnight. It literally took decades, some would say centuries, to accomplish. Give it time, people. Don't give up now. Giving up would be the worst thing to do.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Evan Thomas - a great gnat in the armpit of humanity's weak
Submitted by Gary Hall on Sat, 10/08/2011 - 1:24pm.
Afghanistan was already a tragedy. The imperialist Soviet Empire had already invaded Afghanistan (not to save them - not to defend the USSR - not to defeat terrorists, mind you), and turned the country into a pile of fatherless rubble. Then, in the mid-90's, as world bodies and the Clinton administration turned their backs, the radical Islamic Taliban seized control in a genocidal slaughter.
Well gee Evan, one of the Clinton's had come to her senses:
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton's Statement On The Floor of The United States Senate -September 12, 2001
Well, some of us would.
Well Evan, you see -- we're not stomping on Afghanistan; rather we're stomping on the Taliban and Al Qaeda and "only those who harbor terrorists," (thank you Hillary).
Let me guess, Evan Thomas was in support of SaveDarfur.org?
(;~/ gary
PS - Brad. Interesting, Evan Thomas' name doesn't show up on the masthead at Politico. About Us ??