Behar Claims Poor Whites & Blacks Are ‘Oppressed by the Right Wing’
On Tuesday’s Joy Behar Show on HLN, host Behar claimed that "poor white people, poor black people are the ones who are oppressed by the right wing in this country," during a discussion of a poll finding that 42 percent of Americans believe the American Civil War was fought over states rights instead of slavery.
Panel member and comedian Baratunde Thurston had just cited the Mississippi state secession charter as evidence that slavery really was the primary cause of the war, and then suggested that the Republican Party oppresses the poor in modern times. Thurston:
These were rich Southern men who not only oppressed black people, they oppressed poor white people who made up most of the population. And so the idea that we’re empowering the people represented today want to go back to this time where they were more oppressed is a perfect representation of the Republican Party agenda today.
Behar responded:
It’s ironic, though, because poor white people, poor black people are the ones who are oppressed by the right wing in this country, but they don’t seem to get that. They vote against their own interests all the time.
Below is a transcript of the relevant portion of the segment from the Tuesday, April 12, Joy Behar Show on HLN:
JOY BEHAR: But, you know, it’s interesting because 42 percent of the people polled said the war was fought over states rights and not slavery. Do you buy that?
JOHN FUGELSANG, COMEDIAN: No, it’s the right to keep people as livestock. That’s the rights they’re talking about.
BEHAR: It’s all about money. It was all about the economy, and slavery was free.
BARATUNDE THURSTON, COMEDIAN: This is, again, we have, we have the most amazing tools to, like, look at history. We have all these books digitized, all this, we never look back. The Mississippi state secession charter, the first line is, basically, we’re doing this because of slavery, it’s the most important institution in the world. You can’t separate slavery, even though there were other issues, slavery was at the centerpiece of it. These were rich Southern men who not only oppressed black people, they oppressed poor white people who made up most of the population. And so the idea that we’re empowering the people represented today want to go back to this time where they were more oppressed is a perfect representation of the Republican Party agenda today.
BEHAR: It’s ironic, though, because poor white people, poor black people are the ones who are oppressed by the right wing in this country-
THURSTON: Exactly.
BEHAR: -but they don’t seem to get that.
FUGELSANG: No, because they have Glenn Beck.
BEHAR: They vote against their own interests all the time.
NEGIN FARSAD, COMEDIAN: Every time.
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Prove me wrong
I thought it was the muslims who wanted to keep women as cattle. Yes, it is. Joy, why are you still an infidel?
Chattel!
Not "cattle", "chattel". :-)
I'm doing my part.
I personally have a whole bunch of oppressed poor whites & blacks digitizing books for me.
Can I get a what what from my fellow right wing homies?
WHAT WHAT
...my brother.
Is it me
or is being a failed comedian a prerequisite for getting a political talking head sho on the MSM?
Other than being a former democrat operative what other criteria is there for having your screeching, harpy rantings given gravitas?
She sounds like a miserable shrill (insert fav term for kvetching female) whenever she discusses ANYTHING. While I do avoid seeing or hearing her ilk, when I've forced back the bile or been surprised by her on a channel surfing safari I have never heard her back up opinion with anything but her opinion...and we all know what they are like.
Shhh...I think CNN is
Shhh...I think CNN is thinking about an offshoot network devoted to failed comedians hosting talk shows....Kathy Griffin, Rosie O'Donnel, Joy Behar, et al.
I hear they're tryin to lure Bill Maher away from HBO.
[And for those of you in Rio Linda, CA and Lutz, FL that was satire.]
I thought the right wing
I thought the right wing was composed of the "bitter clingers" and were the poor whites. Now I'm told that we are oppressing the poor whites and blacks. Joy, can you and the President get together and make up your mind? Am I, a conservative, a poor white who doesn't have all of his teeth and go to church all the time? Or am I someone who oppresses those people?
Behar, you again prove that if I shine a spotlight in your right ear I can get a beam out of the left.
The fact is, that if the middle class black community ever wakes up to the fact that the left is taking advantage of them, there will be no one left to vote for the left other than a bunch of over-educated white women and their consorts.
Dennis Prager
So, the comedians' premise
is that poor people universally vote for Republicans?
Wow, that's a howler! They sure are good at this comedy stuff.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
"They vote against their own interests."
Behar regurgitates the mantra of the Left, indirectly dismissing "poor whites" as ignorant people who can't even help themselves.
This stems from the arrogance of the Left that only its elite -- and idiots like Behar who think they are part of that elite -- know what's best for the poor, and that "best" is government handouts.
I Don'T Believe...
I don't believe what I'm hearing from this dimwit! How many blacks of any economic level ever vote for Republicans? Can you say 10% there, Joy Girl? As far as poor whites, with the exception of those trying to pull themselves out of poverty, they mostly vote democrat as well. This ditz is too used to having a script written for her, She doesn't bother to check for facts. Of course, when you don't care about facts, this is what you get. A rotten, sleezy, deceitful, piece of leftist bull!
"Old Soldiers never die, they just fade away"!
A moron babbling to three
A moron babbling to three unkown comedians????
Joy.....
Don't pretend to know anything about history. You're a libturd and libturds know little or nothing of history. It was the Democrats that opposed Abraham Lincoln and sought to make peace with the Confederates. I beleive they were given the nickname "copperheads". It was the likes of George Wallace, Lester Maddox and Bull Connor who used attack dogs and water cannon on Martin Luther Kings peaceful protests. Guess what??? They were all Democrats. The late Senator Robert Byrd was a former KKK member......yep, another Democrat. Now the Democrats want to keep people reliant on big government so they be the masters and the rest of us as slaves. So if anyone is oppressing poor people it is the Democrats and libturds like YOU!!!
Circle jerk of ignorance:
Behold the circle jerk of ignorance. Nevermind that the Democrat Party uses welfare as a tool to keep a permanent voterbase enslaved for life.... these people do not possess the brainpower to connect the dots. Ever notice how COMEDIANS are the new Democrat critical thinkers? Against their interests....please!
If this is a circle jerk
then Joyless must be the pivot woman.
Other than the fact the left doesn't worry about FACTS, they detest anyone on the right debating them and proving them wrong.
The left always argues the point of the "Civil War", which was actually not about civility or about slavery. It was about Southern rights, not just states rights. The Dems always forget that part about the Reps ending the slave trade and slavery all together. Yet they are the ones who "care about the oppressed".
Still ugly
Is this raunchy skag still on TV ?
I thought (or hoped) she was dead or something...how disappointing....
Joy is right for once, but doesn't even know it.
Joy is right for once.
Blacks are a major constituency of.......the Democrats.
In spite of Democrats keeping them dependent and keeping their kids trapped in failed and even dangerous schools, i.e. oppressing them, blacks continue to vote Democrat, to the tune of about 90%.
Voting against their own interest, indeed.
Check your facts, Joyless.
the Dems were the slavery party and continue that tradition to this day by enslaving lazy, stupid , greedy voters with entitlement checks. That will all end soon.
A republican ended slavery.
How are your ratings? Maybe you'd better marry another rich guy. A girl can't be too careful, y'know.
If she is anything like Arianna Huffington
then if she does find a rich man... he'll turn gay as well.
I hear you.
I'd do anything to get away from that hag, too.
Civil War.....
Oh, okay, back to the "War was over slavery." Then why did it take Lincoln almost two years to deliver the Emancipation Proclamation? If it was over slavery, that speech would have been much earlier. Lincoln was trying to end the war, and "freed" the slaves to get more enlisted men. A bit of history no one ever hears is that the South had also freed the slaves shortly thereafter.
Also the bit about how slaves were abused by the slaveowners(Modern day Republicans to a lefty). In today's money a slave would sell for around $75,000. That's like buying a BMW and smashing it every so often for the hell of it. It may have been one incident by a guy like Simon LeGree that started this false history. Blacks in Brazil had it way rougher than here in the states. There's a 24 hour harvest time for sugar, and half of anyone's slaves were dead at the end of that 24 hours due to overwork and exhaustion. As for the Northern Yankees(Progressives), they didn't think Blacks were any more human than anyone else. As trains headed north to Chicago, northern Whites were drowning them by the car loads. There were more blacks hanged in the north than in the south.
Another fact that is conveniently left out was how Lincoln wanted to repatriate Blacks to Liberia. We "bought" that country to do just that. Google the flag of Liberia and you'll see what I mean. Lincoln was also looking to send all the rest of the blacks to Guayana. Old Abe said there was no way blacks would be able to live with whites as the two would never be compatible.
It would be nice if Joyless knew something about facts, but then again, when has a Socialist Statist member of the non-thinking collective ever have use for facts? This harpie is just like her buddy Bill Maher. Talk to them and they think they know it all. The only thing they know like the back of their hands is left wing propaganda they get from the only source they read: DailyKos...Pathetic.......
"A bit of history no one ever
"A bit of history no one ever hears is that the South had also freed the slaves shortly thereafter."
Good point! Robert E. Lee actually had his own plan to free the slaves whether the South won the war or not.
The finest division commander in the western theater,
Patrick Cleburne, made a proposal in 1864 (as Confederate prospects were in serious decline and the manpower shortage became ever more acute) that slaves be freed and armed to support the cause of Southern independence.
Unsurprisingly, he was not only hooted out of the room but it is believed it may have effectively blocked his further advancement--perhaps including the ultimate command of the Army of Tennessee. Instead, the crippled, washed-up, drug-addled dolt, John Bell Hood, succeeded Bragg and Joe Johnston in time to preside over the liquidation of the army at the battles of Atlanta, and then Franklin [where Cleburne and six other Confederate Generals were killed in an insane and suicidal series of attacks which made Pickett's charge look like minor skirmishing in comparison] and finally Nashville where Hood's army was exterminated--along with any remaining hopes for the Confederacy.
Ironically, in the closing weeks of the war, Jefferson Davis essentially approved the Cleburne plan, but it was too late for any effective implementation to occur.
Jer
Liberia turned out so well, too...
John Wilkes Booth did a lot more than murder a President. He changed the course of American history in ways that he could not fathom. Whether it was to our advantage or detriment is another subject.
Lincoln may not have initially fought the war...
....to end slavery, but the Southern states, in particular the 7 states of the deep South, sure seceded and fought to protect their right to maintain the "peculiar institution".
As much as I hate to agree with the dimwits, several of the state resolutions supporting secession did in fact very clearly say that secession was all about slavery and that the other other issues were trivial in comparison.
Lincoln was elected in November 1860 and didn't take office until March 1861.
Why did the states of the deep South secede before he even took office?
ANSWER: They saw the election of Lincoln as being undeniable proof, despite what he said, of the North's intention to abolish slavery.
Prester John...
Take a seat at the head of the class.
Jer
The Confederate states tried
The Confederate states tried to secede because of slavery, got it?
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The first cradle to grave health care recipients were?
Let's review the economics of slavery.
Slaves cost a lot of money to buy, and FEED for life, and HOUSE for life, and provide free MEDICAL care for life.
Slaves were an investment that rarely were mistreated. The happier the slave the better producer he was.
The whole Lib mental picture of the plantation owner and/or his Overseer in the fields everyday with his whip beating his slaves is a myth. (You couldn't afford a slave revolt.)
Bottom line a slave was worth far more to a Plantation owner in the south than a poor white immigrant worker was to the factory owner in the North. The poor white worker had to provide his own shelter, food and health care and if injured was discarded by his employer.
I think by the time Liberals are done with their 1/2 truths in schools it will be taught that:
1. Lincoln was a Democratic. ( yes, ...tic)
2. Plantation owners were Republicans.
3.The cause of the Civil War was basically slavery instead of State's Right's.
4. 100 years after the Civil War, President Lyndon Johnson finally enacted legislation to counter the lingering effects of slavery.
Liberals just make it up as they float in the pool of life.
R J
1. He wasn't of course...and it will never be taught that he was;
2. They weren't of course...and it will never be taught that they were;
3. It was of course...in the sense that slavery was the cause of secession and secession led directly to war, although Lincoln's election was the triggering event for both secession and war. States Rights always was, still is, and will always be a silly canard;
4. Clearly an overstatement but otherwise certainly a plausible argument
Jer
Well, we are making progress!
You didn't disagree that slaves were very valuable compared to the poor white Northern immigrant.
BTW, history factoid, Eli Whitney's inventions "enslaved" backs in the South and whites in the North. His invention of the cotton gin made cotton growing profitable, and his concept of interchangeable parts led to the sweatshop manufacturing facilities in the North.
I will agree it is also a plausible argument...
and one which was fiercely postulated by the southern slave-holding planter elites. I would also suggest it is a spectacularly lousy argument to have been advanced in support of the continued practice of enslaving human beings, and I trust you believe that as well.
Jer
Were the slaves better off as heathens in Africa, or...
becoming Christians in America? (tongue in cheek)
No, Jer I don't support enslaving people. I just wish everyone examine those times and learn from them without political views being involved. See that time for what it was. It was shades of grey, not black and white on either side.
What difference does it make to argue that you are right or I am right? The facts of the time are what they are and we should learn from them and not reject those facts that don't fit our own political template..
Re your closing sentence, Red Jeep...
I agree. And that's precisely what I do, and was taught to do, with respect to any historical period.
Jer
I saw a poll in
a Washington Post story yesterday that said that only 43% of Americans believe that the Civil War was fought over state's rights. The reaminder believe it was slavery. I asked my 11 year old daughter and she said "slavery". Her teacher taught her that. Our liberal educators are spreading the propaganda accordingly.
The truly disturbing
The truly disturbing revelation is that 43% of Americans would believe the war was fought over states rights--the same cynical and abominable political mythology which 20th century southern white majorities employed to perpetuate racial segregation.
Jer
Were the first Democrats really Republicans?
Have to admit there is a lot of similarity between the Democrats of the South in the 1860's and today's Republicans and Tea Party members arguing for State's Rights with a "Don't Tread on Me" attitude toward the Federal Government.
A glib response for a complicated issue:
Yes, there is a lot of similarity.
Two days after the election of President Lincoln, on November 8, 1860, perhaps the first of the so-called "secession flags" was raised in Savannah, Georgia. The flag depicted a coiled snake on a white background and was inscripted "Our Motto, Southern Rights, Equality of the States, Don't Tread on Me."
And check out this.
Jer
Interesting.
Interesting.
Jer:
Now here's a little personal story. I put a smallish Gadsen sticker in the back window of my Jeep a month ago.
On my very first trip on an interstate with it on, in the space of one hour I was involved in TWO fairly serious road rage incidents (meaning if my wife was in the car, she would have been screaming bloody murder) which I in no way precipitated. I was just driving along in the far right lane, bothering no one.
The second, more serious, incident,was an a-hole in a minivan tailgating me @ 80 mph, so close that I could see the eye color of the enraged moonbat behind the wheel. There were no other cars around. As is my custom, I smoked my brakes and said moonbat almost lost control. Moonbat and I then had a five-mile duel where I would not let moonbat pass - and this was a three-lane highway with no other cars. I have heavy-duty everything in my Jeep, my Chrysler Town & Country opponent, not so much.
I finally came to my senses and gave him the JO hand signal as I let him pass. 5 minutes later I passed him... he had been pulled over by a state trooper, who probably nailed him at 90, so outraged he was. Har har.
Try a soda bottle next time
Toss it out the moon roof.
Full is better, 2 liter best. The ex did that once when an 18 wheeler was trying to mow him over. Stopped that in a heartbeat.
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Soda bottle, hell! Toss a
Soda bottle, hell! Toss a full beer keg. :-)
I'll have to remember that one, B.
To my credit, I did NOT deploy my ultimate bult-in weapon, the "Lemme clean your windshield for you."
This is an extremely simple mod (and easily reversible) that anyone can do to any vehicle with a rear windshield wiper: simply reverse/bend the nozzle tip outwards and up. (And you don't really need a rear windshield spray anyway.)
I have used it in the past, and I can tell you that usually the "recipient" will react as if you had sprayed acid* on him, and immediately get off your ass.
*Which, of course, is doable if you had taken the further step of installing an "auxiliary" reservoir in the tailgate area. A lightweight oil like 3-In-1, mixed with water 1:10, is recommended to avoid criminal prosecution in the unlikely event of an accident.
Are you sure it was a state trooper, SoL?
that pulled over said Moonbat?
Maybe it was Rock 'n' Roll Junky.
The following bad-ass tat belongs to “Rock ‘n’ Roll Junky,” a police officer in New Jersey. He writes, “I am a devout patriot who holds traditional views of our country and what it stands for. The tattoo is a representation of all the dedication put forth by fellow patriots in fighting against tyranny and oppression. It is also a symbol of my oath to carry on the legacy of justice for the American people in preserving its liberties from enemies both foreign and domestic.” The ink was done by “Tattoo Tommy” of Jersey Tattoo.
Jer
They must mean left wing
Did the right wing invent all these "social programs" that have kept blacks down (so to speak) for generation after generation?
Funny, the term "they vote against their own best interests" I have heard over and over for the last week or so, kind of like the "marching orders" were tweeted out..........
Again I am angrily posting this, THE FRAUD in chief runs up the Lincoln Memerial to do a photo op after he did shit to get the budget passed, but yet he sends out a mouthpiece to say that "President Oblunder regrets his debt ceiling vote in 2006".
He can't say that himself or is the lying, gutless fraud "testing the waters" to see what the response will be?
OR is it, "Barack long ago changed his views on the debt ceiling" when it comes up again in about a month or so?
I wonder how Behar would feel
I wonder how Behar would feel if she ever realized how oppressed she was, but that isn't possible she's oppressed by ignorance.
How about the six million Jews
that were oppressed to death in Nazi prison camps? What does this mensch know from oppression?
So when did Behar become a
So when did Behar become a history professor?
At
approximately the same time Obysmal started preaching fiscal restraint.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Joy Behar thinks the phrase
Joy Behar thinks the phrase "Black Friday" is racist:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi49EXmYHT8
She actually has no idea what the phrase means, and Hoopy Goldburger rushes in to circle the wagons.
I'm beginning to think that Joy Behar managed to get her 2 TV shows through some sort of policies designed to get CNN and ABC to comply with the Americans With Disabilities Act. At this point I really do believes she suffers with some form of mental retardation. How else can you get to your mid 50s - early 60s without having any idea how this name came about?
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Chris Matthews: The Joy Behar of MSNBC.
Bill Maher: The Joy Behar of HBO.
Paul Krugman: The Joy Behar of The New York Times.
Probably thinks the following
Probably thinks the following are also racist:
Black beans
Black Flag (bug spray or punk group take yer pick)
Black sheep of the family
Chicago Black Sox (look it up)
Black, Alabama
Black, Illinois
Black, Missouri
Black, West Virginia
The Black Hills
Pitch black
etc.