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By Brad Wilmouth | January 07, 2011 | 23:59

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 Appearing as a guest on Friday’s Countdown show on MSNBC, Washington Post staff writer and Newsweek columnist Ezra Klein defended Obamacare and warned Republicans against attempting to repeal the law as he contended that some provisions are popular with the public. After host Keith Olbermann asked if Democrats should "relish rejoining the fight over health care reform" because it could hurt Republicans, Klein urged Democrats to fight. Klein:

They should be going to war over it. It's an incredibly important achievement for them, and if Democrats cannot defend a deficit-reducing bill that brings health care insurance to 32 million people and allows folks with pre-existing conditions to get any insurance they want, if they can't defend that, frankly, they, on some level, don't really deserve to be a party. If you can't defend the best thing you've done in a generation, then you've got some political problems that are bigger than anything the Republicans are doing to you.

The Washington Post writer eventually predicted that Republicans would be embracing and defending Obamacare by the year 2050. Klein: "In 2050 Republicans will be saying, ‘How dare you cut Obamacare?’"

Below is a complete transcript of the segment from the Friday, January 7, Countdown show on MSNBC, with critical portions in bold:

KEITH OLBERMANN: As mentioned, House Republicans voted preliminarily today on repealing health care reform. The motion to advance debate passed, with the actual repeal vote scheduled for next week. The push comes despite the Congressional Budget Office's determination that repeal would increase the deficit by $230 billion over 10 years, but, damn it, the GOP has a catch phrase and they are going to repeat it into the ground.

[ FIVE CLIPS SHOWN OF REPUBLICANS CALLING OBAMACARE A "JOB-KILLING" LAW]

OLBERMANN: But a Harvard economist says repeal would actually kill jobs. He estimates it would cost from 250,000 jobs to more than 400,000. That's per year for the next 10 years, adding that, in the nine months since the President signed health care reform into law, 200,000 new jobs have been created in just the health care industry. Tangential evidence of that, the L.A. Times reports that more small businesses are offering health care to employees because of the tax credit in the new law that encourages them to do just that. One example, Blue Cross/Blue Shield of Kansas City reporting a 58 percent increase in the number of small businesses purchasing coverage since April, one month after the reform tax credit went into law. Let’s turn now to Washington Post staff writer, and Newsweek columnist, and MSNBC contributor Ezra Klein. Good evening, Ezra.

EZRA KLEIN, WASHINGTON POST: Good evening, Keith.

OLBERMANN: I think I, even I get the implication of a spike in sales of insurance programs to small businesses, but explain it anyway.

KLEIN: A spike in sales of insurance to small businesses during a horrible economy in which they’re going out of business, that’s pretty much unprecedented, and what it means is the small business tax credit that is going out across the country, what we’re seeing is much larger take-up than we anticipated. And they’re taking it up because it's finally made it affordable for them to offer insurance for their employees. That L.A. Times article, if you can get your hands on it, is actually a pretty powerful document because you have these business owners in there who were clearly agonizing for years that they couldn't do this for their people. They said, "It came, finally, it came, and it’s been perfect." And it’s got a restaurant owner in there, and she says, "Every chef who works for me, we now, we’re able to get them health care, and it's been wonderful." It’s mattered.

OLBERMANN: And it’s not, the knee-jerk response to opponents of health care reform would say, well, that’s part of the mandate, right? Well, the mandate doesn't kick in for years yet, doesn't have anything to do with you have to do this. They chose to do this.

KLEIN: No, the mandate is not operative here at all.

OLBERMANN: All right. Is this exactly what happens when even a flawed minimal health care reform law like the one that passed last year has gotten into effect? Nine months, and the benefits start to become quantifiable?

KLEIN: Absolutely. These benefits are trickling in. This is one of the first major ones that’s really come in, but now repeal is going to mean taking this credit from every one of these small businesses, and these chefs are going to become uninsured once again. And this is going to be the difficulty for the Republicans going forward. The CBO came out this week, and, as you mentioned in your introduction there, they said, you know what, you guys are going to cost us $230 billion if you do this. And, by the way, you’re also going to mean 32 million people don't get insurance in the next 10 years. The good thing for the Republicans is, most of those people don't have insurance yet. If they did, there’d be no way to do this at all. But the thing that Democrats learned when they tried to pass health care reform is that things are popular in general and they get unpopular when you get specific. And Republicans are about to find out the same thing. They want to repeal it all? Well, they’re repealing all the popular parts, too, and we’ve polled that a lot. When you try to repeal the popular parts of health care and ask the American people about it, they don't like that one bit.

OLBERMANN: Speaker Boehner already dismissed the CBO as "their opinion." Should Democrats thus not only because of the results of the sort of anecdotal evidence out of the insurance industry, but should, because of Boehner's attitude towards this and your point about specifics versus the general, should the Democrats relish rejoining this fight over health care reform on that specific level?

KLEIN: They should be going to war over it. It's an incredibly important achievement for them, and if Democrats cannot defend a deficit-reducing bill that brings health care insurance to 32 million people and allows folks with pre-existing conditions to get any insurance they want, if they can't defend that, frankly, they, on some level, don’t really deserve to be a party. If you can’t defend the best thing you’ve done in a generation, then you’ve got some political problems that are bigger than anything the Republicans are doing to you.

OLBERMANN: And yet, we know Republicans have been monumentally successful at controlling the narrative on how health care reform was perceived for two years, for two uninterrupted years. If the Democrats lost policy as politics the first time around, how do they avoid it this time around besides sort of a common sense approach that you already suggested?

KLEIN: There’s good political science showing that people don't like things Congress does. There’s a tendency, we in the media report on conflict. We spend all our time talking about the parts of things that people don't like. There are a lot of reasons while something is happening for folks not to like it. The thing is, when you have good policy and good policy goes into effect like these small business tax credits, that’s when people do begin to like it. That’s why Medicare is untouchable even among Republicans, why they keep going to the floor and saying how dare you cut this socialized government health care plan or same with Social Security, of course. So what Democrats really need to do is protect this thing for long enough that people can begin to benefit from it. And Republicans know full well that if they get it that far along, they’ve got no choice of getting this off the books anytime soon.

OLBERMANN: Get your hands off my federally mandated tax cut and tax benefit and rebate for small business. It's too long of a catch phrase, but you get the idea.

KLEIN: In 2050 Republicans will be saying, "How dare you cut Obamacare?"

OLBERMANN: There will be a statue to you if that's correct. Ezra Klein of the Washington Post, great thanks and have a good weekend.

KLEIN: Thank you.

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They're praising an idea that

Submitted by rbosque on Fri, 01/07/2011 - 11:59pm.

They're praising an idea that originally came from Lenin, figures.

"It may be true that you can't fool all the people all the time, but you can fool enough of them to rule a large country"......Will Durant
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→ Going to war over it?

Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 12:10am.

Ezra is calling for violence?  He must be a hater.

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Demented

Submitted by rammingspeed on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 12:14am.

Klein is in high dementia dudgeon, behaving like a progressive who is trying to find reality by smoking more and more crack. He's in the same out-where-the-buses-don't-run crowd as Frank Rich, Maureen Dowd, and others at the NYT.

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Maureen still around?

Submitted by Red Jeep on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 7:32am.

Maureen still around?

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Well, if Obamacare is the

Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 12:25am.

Well, if Obamacare is the BEST thing that the Dems have done in a generation, then what does that tell you about how bad they have been???

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My thought exactly, killa.

Submitted by Newsbubba on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 11:11am.

I agree with Klein.  This IS the best that the dumbocrats have done in a generation, maybe two!

Just goes to show you how much all the other crap they have done sucks.

When Obama is your messiah, is there any hope for salvation?

Comrade Bubba
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Detached from reality.

Submitted by NeoKong on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 12:28am.

They just keep bouncing lies back and forth between themselves as if the force of their desire will make it so.

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This CHILD obtained credibility HOW?

Submitted by TexasMom0517 on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 11:05am.

Ezra Klein is not old enough yet to be kicked off his parents' health insurance policy, so WHY does anyone pay attention to this boy?  He's a classic case of what's wrong with our current "culture."  His credentials, prior to being hired by Newsweek and WaPo, were minimal- primarily the snarky comments of blogs like Pandagon (anyone remember Amanda Marcotte who was hired to blog for the John Edwards' campaign?).  

 

It baffles me that our "society" has embued journolists (intentional misspelling) like Ezra Klein with any credibility whatsoever.  He has neither the experience, nor the education to be anything more than a junior level writer.  The professional left seems to endow people who share their world view with credentials that are undeserved.  Just look at how everyone on the Left has jumped on the story of "the homeless man with the golden voice."  No one bothered to vet the man (why am I not surprised?) and it turns out that he has a very long rap sheet for various crimes, his story that he has been clean and sober for TWO years is questionable, and he has an ex-wife and children whom he abandoned many years ago (leaving the legally blind wife to raise the children).  For the Left, a "good story" is more important than "facts."  Yes, Ezra, the Constitution WAS written over a hundred years ago- what classes DID you take at University of California Los Angeles?

"My faith in the Constitution is whole, it is complete, it is total. I am not going to sit here and be an idle spectator to the diminution, the subversion, the destruction of the Constitution." Barbara Jordan
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Yeah, ObamaHarm is the best

Submitted by Chris Norman on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 1:00am.

Yeah, ObamaHarm is the "best" the Democrats have done in their generations long drive to make us a European-style welfare state - and they have the sheer gall to think that we ought to be grateful to them for what they've done.

Let's make the 2012 campaign: "The War on Error"
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And don't foget the unicorns, Ezra

Submitted by ckc1227 on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 1:21am.

Since you're playing make believe, may as well throw them in too. And maybe even a few leprechauns as well.


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Earth to Klein

Submitted by IVote on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 1:26am.

When I quit laughing at WaPo and Klein, I'm going to send them the dry cleaning bill for my pants.  Really..... they should keep this up right through November 2012.  You go, Ezra, and you'll huff and you'll puff 'til you blow yourself down.

It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.  ~Mark Twain
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No limits

Submitted by Kansasgirl on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 1:34am.

Ezra states that people with "pre-existing" conditions should get any insurance they want? Who does he expect to pay for this nonsense. It's like getting  full coverage car insurance after you've had the accident. When does it stop?

KansasGirl
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Good grief Ezra

Submitted by sybilll on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 1:38am.

I have tube socks older than you.  And, I dare say their IQ rivals yours. 

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I would have to agree this is their best idea in decades

Submitted by hbnolikeee on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 1:51am.

I mean consider:

  • they created the KKK
  • they voted against civil rights
hbnolikeee
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Best thing the Dems have done in a generation?

Submitted by stunned on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 2:02am.

Sure was.  It created one of the largest defeats in history for them just 2 years after they took over absolute power in Congress.  It cost them the veto proof Senate first and then the House of Representatives.  With three times as many Democrat Senators up for re-election as Republicans in 2012 they must vote to repeal this month and if Harry Reid won't let the Senate vote then they must bring it up again as soon as the mesure dies in the Senate.

The Republicans must not make the same mistake they made with the attempts to reform Freddy and Fanny when the Republicans didn't get the Dems on record voting against reforms prior to the economic meltdown because enough RINO's backed the Dems to block reform back in 2006 and 2007 and 2008.  Make the damn RINOS and Demsget on the record this time and vote on repeal as often as possible and hammer it home during the next elections.

If the Dems and MSM are so outraged it must be a good idea to vote for Obamacare repeal. 

tired of liberal lies

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In 2050, they will still be

Submitted by robert108 on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 2:34am.

In 2050, they will still be running against President Bush.

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Rise in costs?

Submitted by Cyborg 0427 on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 6:18am.

BCBS will raise premiums 58% in CA. This Kleins defination of perfect? In NC my insurance went up 35%. Please, Mr. Klein one more time tell me how good this is, and this is for a plan that covers only 80% with a $1000 out of pocket and a $750 deductiable. Sorry master but I am having a hard time seeing the silver lining in this cloud. Yes I am trying Sir. Yes sir I know how much smarter you are than me but.

These people really take the cake, and I mean literally take the cake.

You can lead a liberal to logic but you can't make them think.
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The louder a liberal screams,

Submitted by johnsonl on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 6:45am.

The louder a liberal screams, the more that idea must suck. Their response to the indefensible is to scream louder, hurl insults and claim racism.

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It's sad how the triumvirate

Submitted by Barack_must_go..... on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 7:24am.

It's sad how the triumvirate of MSNBC, Washington Post and the Obama White House have fundamentally transformed into the ' WWE ' of Washington politics. 

Only difference is the WWE is a bit more believable, and hands down way more entertaining.

Barack_Must_Go.....

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Fake but accurate.

Submitted by Red Jeep on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 7:35am.

Fake but accurate.

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WWE Divas

Submitted by Agnostic on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 9:33am.

With Hillary, Michelle Obama, Pelosi and Janet Napolitano as the Divas - who would watch?

. . Socialist = Modern Liberal = Parasitoid
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See this YouTube clip on the

Submitted by jdhawk on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 8:43am.

See this YouTube clip on the subject:  Paul Ryan: Health Care Law A Fiscal Train Wreck  (  

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR5KAlG5B-s )

 For a broader, but lenthly piece on the subject, go to the Heritage Foundation web site here:   http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2010/12/the-future-of-health-care-reform-paul-ryan-s-roadmap-and-its-critics 

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A Staff Writer from WAPO is Educating us on Healthcare?

Submitted by gruyere cheese on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 9:23am.

This is the writer that claimed the US constitution was written 100 years ago and we are to believe he is an expert on politics and the Healthcare issues?

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Remember

Submitted by The_Pumpcrop on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 10:34am.

All they have to do to Get Bama re-elected is to tweek it just enough to get the center people leaning their way. And they are tweeking more then Needle Park. Republicans are haters, stay strong with us you zombies!

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Interestingly enough,

Submitted by Par for the Course on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 12:05pm.

A supporter of the health care reform bill doesn't think it's the best thing the Dems have done in a generation:

Newsweek’s Evan Thomas: ‘The health care bill is a disaster’

 

[...]

 

“The health care bill is a disaster,” Thomas continued. “We’re sort of slowly learning – it’s not working. It’s interesting – they’re implementing it and it’s not working out at all as people anticipated. There’s all sorts of wildly wrong projections. As it’s being practiced – it’s failed.”

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Isn't Ezra Klein a geporter? 

Submitted by buddyc on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 12:29pm.

Isn't Ezra Klein a "reporter"?  HOW can you as "journalist" accept this blatent bias.  Were he a an editorialist I could understand and accept his conduct. 

 

He should condemned for what he is.  He is a sloppy political hack masquerading under the name of journalist reporter.

 

I know for a fact that your rules of ethics forbids bias or even he appearance of bias. 

 

Didn't NRP fire Williams because his comments and his appearances on Fox give the appearance of bias?

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The new HC law is so great

Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 12:51pm.

The new HC law is so great all the Democrats made it their key plank in their campaign to get reelected.  The shouted it out over hill and dale, over the mountaintops and in the valleys.

Nuke em til they glow; then shoot em in the dark
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