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Olbermann Responds to Koppel, Claims Criticized Obama More in a Week that FNC Did Bush in 8 Years

By Brad Wilmouth | November 16, 2010 | 01:21

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 On Monday’s Countdown show, MSNBC host Keith Olbermann used his latest "Special Comment" to respond to former ABC anchor Ted Koppel’s inclusion of him and MSNBC in his recent Washington Post op-ed criticizing the modern news industry. After praising former news man Edward R. Murrow for taking a stand on Senator Joseph McCarthy and Walter Cronkite for doing the same on the Vietnam War and Watergate, Olbermann complained that, unlike himself, Koppel had "worshiped before the false god of utter objectivity" instead of going after the Bush administration over the Iraq war, and claimed that last week he criticized President Obama more than Fox News primetime did President Bush in eight years. Olbermann:

Moreover, while Fox may be such, we are not doctrinaire. I cannot prove it, so I'll have to estimate it here, and if I'm proved wrong I'll happily correct it, but my intuition tells me I criticized President Obama more in the last week than Fox's primetime hosts criticized President Bush in eight years.

And, even though Olbermann has a history of distorting the words of conservatives to portray them in the worst possible light, and of passing on incorrect information without retraction, Olbermann congratulated himself for recently deciding not to include misinformation about President Bush on his show, and suggested that FNC or CNN would not have made sure not to include such incorrect information. Olbermann:

We do not make up facts here and when we make mistakes we correct them. Friday night I found, as we rehearsed its presentation, that a segment implying that former President Bush had lifted parts of his autobiography from other works of recent history, was largely based on excerpts that mostly required heavy editing and still produced only weak evidence. We killed the segment. Would Fox have? Would CNN have?

He soon attacked Koppel for not going after the Bush administration over the war in Iraq:

Just as the story of Mr. Murrow's career emphasizes McCarthy but not the fact that the aftermath of the McCarthy broadcast buried Murrow's career, the stories of Mr. Koppel's career will emphasize the light he so admirably shone on the Iran hostages. Those stories, though, will probably not emphasize that in 2002 and 2003 and 2004 and 2005 Mr. Koppel did not shine that same light on the decreasingly coherent excuses presented by the government of this nation for the war in Iraq.

He ended up accusing Koppel of "worshiping before the false god of utter objectivity":

Fourteen consecutive months of nightly half-hours on the travesty and tragedy of 52 hostages in Iran, but the utter falsehood and dishonesty of the process by which this country was committed to the wrong war, by which this country was committed to dishonesty, by which this country was committed to torture, about that Mr. Koppel, and everybody else in the dead "objective" television news business he so laments, about that Mr. Koppel could not be bothered to speak out. Where were they? Worshiping before the false god of utter objectivity.

Below is a transcript of a portion of the 12-minute "Special Comment" from the Monday, November 15, Countdown show on MSNBC:

 These were not glorified stenographers. These were not neutral men. These were men who did in their day what the best of journalists still try to do in this one. Evaluate, analyze, unscramble, assess, put together a coherent picture, or a challenging question, using only the facts as they can be best discerned, plus their own honesty and conscience.

And if the result is that this story over here is a presidential chief of staff taking some pretty low-octane bribes and the scandal starts and ends there, you judge all the facts, and you say so. And if the result is that that other story over there is not just a third-rate burglary at a political office, but the tip of an iceberg meant to sink the two-party system in this country, you judge all the facts, and you scream so.

Insist long enough that the driving principle behind the great journalism of the television era was neutrality and objectivity and not subjective choices and often dangerous evaluations and even commentary, and you will eventually leave the door open to pointless worship at the temple of a false god.

And once you've got a false god, you're going to get false priests. And sooner rather than later, in a world where subjective analysis is labeled evil and dangerous, some political mountebank is going to see his opening and seize the very catechism of that false god, words like "objective" and "neutral" and "two-sided" and "fair" and "balanced," and he will pervert them into a catch-phrase, a brand name, and he can create something that is no more journalism than two men screaming at each other as a musical duet.

 But, as long as there are two men, as long as they are fair and balanced, is not the news consumer entranced by the screaming and the fact that his man eventually and always outscreams the other? Is not he convinced that he has seen true journalism, true balance, true objectivity?

I have read and heard much of late including from Mr. Koppel in the Washington Post yesterday about how those who succeeded his grand era of false objectivity are only in it for the money or the fame or the chance to push a political party. Mr. Koppel also implied as others have that the men behind this network saw in the success of Fox News, a business opportunity to duplicate the style but change that content. Mr. Koppel implied that yesterday.

In fact, nothing could be further from the truth, and the very kind of fact-driven journalism Mr. Koppel seems to be claiming he represents and I fail, would not stand for his sloppy assumptions and his false equivalence of "both sides do it."

 We do not make up facts here and when we make mistakes we correct them. Friday night I found, as we rehearsed its presentation, that a segment implying that former President Bush had lifted parts of his autobiography from other works of recent history, was largely based on excerpts that mostly required heavy editing and still produced only weak evidence. We killed the segment. Would Fox have? Would CNN have?

Ten days ago, Anderson Cooper 360 presented a political story in the most cataclysmic of tones. There were three guests: an on-line magazine editor, a staunch liberal, and a staunch conservative, and they were in agreement: the story just wasn't that big a deal. The segment ran anyway.

Moreover, while Fox may be such, we are not doctrinaire. I cannot prove it, so I'll have to estimate it here, and if I'm proved wrong I'll happily correct it: but my intuition tells me I criticized President Obama more in the last week than Fox's primetime hosts criticized President Bush in eight years. To equate this network with Fox, as Mr. Koppel did, to accuse us of having our own facts is another manifestation of a dangerously simplified understanding of modern news. This guy says the moon is a planetary fragment orbiting the Earth. This other guy says it's actually the body of the late Vince Foster. Have them both on and let them debate. It's fair and balanced.

 And to the charge that a bunch of bean counters seized upon a business opportunity, I have been here for every moment of this network's evolution. It began in 2003 when slowly, one fact at a time, we began to challenge the government's rationalization for the war in Iraq.

A year later, I was told by the former president of this network that he did not want me or us to be a liberal answer to Fox News. The man whose hour followed mine then was a conservative ex-Congressman.

The year after that, I offered evidence that there seemed to be a disturbing juxtaposition of government terrorism warnings or counter-terrorism detentions with political bumps in the road for the Republican Party. The woman whose hour followed mine then had been hired by us away from Fox.

The year after that, I did the first of these Special Comments and I fully expected that I might be fired after it. The year after that, I had to spend urging my employers to give my guest host her own show.

 Now there are three shows in primetime in which the content usually lines up with the small L liberal point-of-view even as it needles and prods and sometimes pole-axes the Democrats. And that conservative ex-Congressman is still on the air here, every day, and he has as much time as the three of us at night do put together.

If this was a business plan, it was not as good as the one at the nearest kid's lemonade stand. This network came to this place organically.

And therein lies the final irony to what Mr. Koppel wrote yesterday. We got here organically in large part because of Mr. Koppel. His prominence, you will recall, came when ABC News and Sports president Roone Arledge who never permitted business or show business to interfere in his judgments and his journalistic pledge of allegiance, when Mr. Arledge made the subjective, and eminently correct, decision that the hostage crisis at the U.S. embassy in Teheran merited half an hour or more each night of the network's time in 1979, this was not the no-brainer that retrospect may suggest. CBS and NBC and PBS certainly did not do it. Even when CNN signed on in the middle of the next year, it did not do it. Arledge made his decision just four days after the hostages were seized, and stuck with the story until it ended, defying the conventional wisdom of television, and constantly pressing the government and questioning the official line.

And even after those hostages were freed more than a year later, the half an hour of news, now renamed Nightline, continued. And each night, for 26 years, Mr. Koppel and his producers and his employers subjectively selected which, out of a million stories, would get the attention of his slice of American television for as much as a half an hour at a time. Which story would be elevated and amplified, and which piles upon piles of stories would be postponed, or tabled, or discarded, or ignored.

I may ultimately be judged to have been wrong in what I am doing. Mr. Koppel does not have to wait. The kind of television journalism he eulogizes failed this country because when truth was needed, all we got were facts most of which were lies anyway. The journalism failed, and those who practiced it failed, and Mr. Koppel failed. 

I don't know that I'm doing it exactly right here. I'm trying. I have to. Because whatever that television news was before we now have to fix it. Good night and good luck.

On Monday’s Countdown show, MSNBC host Keith Olbermann used his latest "Special Comment" to respond to former ABC anchor Ted Koppel’s inclusion of him and MSNBC in his criticism of the modern news industry. After praising former news man Edward R. Murrow for taking a stand on Senator Joseph McCarthy and Walter Cronkite for doing the same on the Vietnam War and Watergate, Olbermann complained that, unlike himself, Koppel had "worshiped before the false god of utter objectivity" instead of going after the Bush administration over the Iraq war, and claimed that last week he criticized President Obama more than Fox News primetime did President Bush in eight years. Olbermann:

Moreover, while Fox may be such, we are not doctrinaire. I cannot prove it, so I'll have to estimate it here, and if I'm proved wrong I'll happily correct it: but my intuition tells me I criticized President Obama more in the last week than Fox's primetime hosts criticized President Bush in eight years.

And, even though Olbermann has a history of distorting the words of conservatives to portray them in the worst possible light, and of passing on incorrect information without retraction, Olbermann congratulated himself for recently deciding not to include misinformation about President Bush on his show, and suggested that FNC or CNN would not have made sure not to include such incorrect information. Olbermann:

We do not make up facts here and when we make mistakes we correct them. Friday night I found, as we rehearsed its presentation, that a segment implying that former President Bush had lifted parts of his autobiography from other works of recent history, was largely based on excerpts that mostly required heavy editing and still produced only weak evidence. We killed the segment. Would Fox have? Would CNN have?

He soon attacked Koppel for not going after the Bush administration over the war in Iraq:

Just as the story of Mr. Murrow's career emphasizes McCarthy but not the fact that the aftermath of the McCarthy broadcast buried Murrow's career, the stories of Mr. Koppel's career will emphasize the light he so admirably shone on the Iran hostages. Those stories, though, will probably not emphasize that in 2002 and 2003 and 2004 and 2005 Mr. Koppel did not shine that same light on the decreasingly coherent excuses presented by the government of this nation for the war in Iraq.

He ended up accusing Koppel of "worshiping before the false god of utter objectivity": Fourteen consecutive months of nightly half-hours on the travesty and tragedy of 52 hostages in Iran, but the utter falsehood and dishonesty of the process by which this country was committed to the wrong war, by which this country was committed to dishonesty, by which this country was committed to torture, about that Mr. Koppel, and everybody else in the dead "objective" television news business he so laments, about that Mr. Koppel could not be bothered to speak out. Where were they? Worshiping before the false god of utter objectivity.

Below is a transcript of a portion of the 12-minute "Special Comment" from the Monday, November 15, Countdown show on MSNBC:

These were not glorified stenographers. These were not neutral men. These were men who did in their day what the best of journalists still try to do in this one. Evaluate, analyze, unscramble, assess, put together a coherent picture, or a challenging question, using only the facts as they can be best discerned, plus their own honesty and conscience.

And if the result is that this story over here is a presidential chief of staff taking some pretty low-octane bribes and the scandal starts and ends there, you judge all the facts, and you say so. And if the result is that that other story over there is not just a third-rate burglary at a political office, but the tip of an iceberg meant to sink the two-party system in this country, you judge all the facts, and you scream so.

Insist long enough that the driving principle behind the great journalism of the television era was neutrality and objectivity and not subjective choices and often dangerous evaluations and even commentary, and you will eventually leave the door open to pointless worship at the temple of a false god.

And once you've got a false god, you're going to get false priests. And sooner rather than later, in a world where subjective analysis is labeled evil and dangerous, some political mountebank is going to see his opening and seize the very catechism of that false god, words like "objective" and "neutral" and "two-sided" and "fair" and "balanced," and he will pervert them into a catch-phrase, a brand name, and he can create something that is no more journalism than two men screaming at each other as a musical duet.

 

But, as long as there are two men, as long as they are fair and balanced, is not the news consumer entranced by the screaming and the fact that his man eventually and always outscreams the other? Is not he convinced that he has seen true journalism, true balance, true objectivity?

I have read and heard much of late including from Mr. Koppel in the Washington Post yesterday about how those who succeeded his grand era of false objectivity are only in it for the money or the fame or the chance to push a political party. Mr. Koppel also implied as others have that the men behind this network saw in the success of Fox News, a business opportunity to duplicate the style but change that content. Mr. Koppel implied that yesterday.

In fact, nothing could be further from the truth, and the very kind of fact-driven journalism Mr. Koppel seems to be claiming he represents and I fail, would not stand for his sloppy assumptions and his false equivalence of "both sides do it."

We do not make up facts here and when we make mistakes we correct them. Friday night I found, as we rehearsed its presentation, that a segment implying that former President Bush had lifted parts of his autobiography from other works of recent history, was largely based on excerpts that mostly required heavy editing and still produced only weak evidence. We killed the segment. Would Fox have? Would CNN have?

Ten days ago, Anderson Cooper 360 presented a political story in the most cataclysmic of tones. There were three guests: an on-line magazine editor, a staunch liberal, and a staunch conservative, and they were in agreement: the story just wasn't that big a deal. The segment ran anyway.

Moreover, while Fox may be such, we are not doctrinaire. I cannot prove it, so I'll have to estimate it here, and if I'm proved wrong I'll happily correct it: but my intuition tells me I criticized President Obama more in the last week than Fox's primetime hosts criticized President Bush in eight years.

To equate this network with Fox, as Mr. Koppel did, to accuse us of having our own facts is another manifestation of a dangerously simplified understanding of modern news. This guy says the moon is a planetary fragment orbiting the Earth. This other guy says it's actually the body of the late Vince Foster. Have them both on and let them debate. It's fair and balanced.

And to the charge that a bunch of bean counters seized upon a business opportunity, I have been here for every moment of this network's evolution. It began in 2003 when slowly, one fact at a time, we began to challenge the government's rationalization for the war in Iraq.

A year later, I was told by the former president of this network that he did not want me or us to be a liberal answer to Fox News. The man whose hour followed mine then was a conservative ex-Congressman.

The year after that, I offered evidence that there seemed to be a disturbing juxtaposition of government terrorism warnings or counter-terrorism detentions with political bumps in the road for the Republican Party. The woman whose hour followed mine then had been hired by us away from Fox.

The year after that, I did the first of these Special Comments and I fully expected that I might be fired after it. The year after that, I had to spend urging my employers to give my guest host her own show.

Now there are three shows in primetime in which the content usually lines up with the small L liberal point-of-view even as it needles and prods and sometimes pole-axes the Democrats. And that conservative ex-Congressman is still on the air here, every day, and he has as much time as the three of us at night do put together.

If this was a business plan, it was not as good as the one at the nearest kid's lemonade stand. This network came to this place organically.

And therein lies the final irony to what Mr. Koppel wrote yesterday. We got here organically in large part because of Mr. Koppel. His prominence, you will recall, came when ABC News and Sports president Roone Arledge who never permitted business or show business to interfere in his judgments and his journalistic pledge of allegiance, when Mr. Arledge made the subjective, and eminently correct, decision that the hostage crisis at the U.S. embassy in Teheran merited half an hour or more each night of the network's time in 1979, this was not the no-brainer that retrospect may suggest. CBS and NBC and PBS certainly did not do it. Even when CNN signed on in the middle of the next year, it did not do it. Arledge made his decision just four days after the hostages were seized, and stuck with the story until it ended, defying the conventional wisdom of television, and constantly pressing the government and questioning the official line.

And even after those hostages were freed more than a year later, the half an hour of news, now renamed Nightline, continued. And each night, for 26 years, Mr. Koppel and his producers and his employers subjectively selected which, out of a million stories, would get the attention of his slice of American television for as much as a half an hour at a time. Which story would be elevated and amplified, and which piles upon piles of stories would be postponed, or tabled, or discarded, or ignored.

Just as the story of Mr. Murrow's career emphasizes McCarthy but not the fact that the aftermath of the McCarthy broadcast buried Murrow's career, the stories of Mr. Koppel's career will emphasize the light he so admirably shone on the Iran hostages. Those stories, though, will probably not emphasize that in 2002 and 2003 and 2004 and 2005 Mr. Koppel did not shine that same light on the decreasingly coherent excuses presented by the government of this nation for the war in Iraq.

Fourteen consecutive months of nightly half-hours on the travesty and tragedy of 52 hostages in Iran, but the utter falsehood and dishonesty of the process by which this country was committed to the wrong war, by which this country was committed to dishonesty, by which this country was committed to torture, about that Mr. Koppel, and everybody else in the dead "objective" television news business he so laments, about that Mr. Koppel could not be bothered to speak out. Where were they?

Worshiping before the false god of utter objectivity. The bitter irony that must some day occur to Mr. Koppel and the others of his time was that their choice to not look too deeply into Iraq, before or after the war began, was itself just as evaluative, just as analytically-based, just as subjective as anything I say or do here each night.

I may ultimately be judged to have been wrong in what I am doing. Mr. Koppel does not have to wait. The kind of television journalism he eulogizes failed this country because when truth was needed, all we got were facts most of which were lies anyway. The journalism failed, and those who practiced it failed, and Mr. Koppel failed.

I don't know that I'm doing it exactly right here. I'm trying. I have to. Because whatever that television news was before we now have to fix it. Good night and good luck.

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Moron

Submitted by Joe W. on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 1:31am.

The man is the most narcasistic, vile, ignoramous on television.  He actually believes that people give a fat rat's ass what he thinks about anything.  What a buffoon.

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Hey Olberdouche

Submitted by theduck6 on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 7:58am.

When a former liberal talking head says your a weinie, ..Ya might be a weanie.

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Joe W, except when Obama's

Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 12:15pm.

Joe W, except when Obama's on.  Then there is a tie for the  most narcasistic, vile, ignoramous on television.

Proud member of the 53%!
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I am left to wonder which is

Submitted by Ashrak on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 1:31am.

I am left to wonder which is more foolish. Is it the things Olberman says, or is it that he actually believes what he says?
 

That an individual right exists requires that some policy positions be removed from the table of debate.
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I can't believe that

Submitted by Chris Norman on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 2:00am.

I can't believe that Olbermann, who has to distort, mischaracterize and deliebrately misinterpret to "back up" his ridiculous assertions and taunts, can actually believe anything he says. He may be a true liberal, but everything else about him is phony.

Let's make the 2012 campaign: "The War on Error"
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Olbermann - "President Bush

Submitted by kg on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 5:39am.

Olbermann - "President Bush had lifted parts of his autobiography from other works of recent history"   Olbermann is referring to Huf Po's charge that Bush plagiarized...wait for it....Bush's own words.   And Olbermann actually pats himself on the back for not echoing HufPo's charge.    

 

"DumbAssity of Dope"

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Olbermann: "My intuition tells me"

Submitted by motherbelt on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 7:28am.

To steal from George Costanza talking about his "little man"

Olbermann's intuition is an idiot.
 

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If Olberloon

Submitted by Iron Tigers Vet on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 10:35am.

has intuitions... does that make him a witch?  I want a recount!

"Apparently, I'm supposed to be more angry about what Mitt Romney does with his money than what Barack Obama does with mine"
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But that's not a "liberal"

Submitted by mzk1 on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 9:19am.

A "liberal" (small-l; Olberman actually has the nerve to use the term) is someone who looks at both sides and beleives in letting the other person have his say. You're thinking of a Leftist; the people who made "liberal" a negative term in this country.

The man is amazing; just based on this quote, he is a sincere fanatic.

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The great speechifier

Submitted by Left Coast Dan on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 1:52am.

Olbermann speaks with a great pomposity when he wants to, and often manages to say nothing or something completely false, in a very presidential-sounding manner. Hey - a bunch of speeches with no substance got Obama elected, maybe Olbermann should run in 2012.

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Obamamann 2012?

Submitted by Chris Norman on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 1:58am.

Obamamann 2012?

Let's make the 2012 campaign: "The War on Error"
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Retirement date?

Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 10:06am.

Retirement date?

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I like it!

Submitted by Newsbubba on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 12:12pm.

Actually Keefie may be more qualified to be president than the rat bastard fascist SOB in the White House now!

For sure he wouldn't need a teleprompter.  Yak, yak, yak, yak, YAK.  I don't think they make "deranged" teleprompters, anyway.  Do they?

Comrade Bubba
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Or perhaps Obama just screws

Submitted by gloomhound on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 1:54am.

Or perhaps Obama just screws up more in a week than Bush did in 8 years?

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Bias Reporting

Submitted by grammajane on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 2:15am.

Why is he so concerned about Fox and Bush?? He blabs everynight about how great obama is and constantly pushes a liberal agenda, as do all the other blabbing heads on msnbc. He is so jealous of Fox, Rush, OReilly and Beck who all have millions of more viewers/listeners then  any on his channel, put together. People who constantly put others down have zero self respect. All thoses fools do night after night is bash anyone who is popular with most American's.

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Olbermann compared himself to Cronkite

Submitted by bohratom on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 2:21am.

Olbermann compared himself to Cronkite, that should create a new Journalism award. The criteria would be the so-called journalist that is so far and beyond what Cronkite did....

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Actually, it would be hard to do as much harm...

Submitted by mzk1 on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 9:24am.

As Cronkite, Rather(*), Huntley, and Brinkley. The hounding of a president from office for political reasons, almost destroying the two-party system, the destruction of Viet Nam, Laos, Cambodia, the killing fields....

Olberman is an ameteur.

If there  s an award for media distortion, it ought to be named after Cronkite.

(*) Rather reported from the White House durign Watergate, and made sure everyone "knew" just why it was so important.

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"The man whose hour followed

Submitted by Chris Norman on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 2:43am.

"The man whose hour followed mine then was a conservative ex-Congressman."   Yeah, well that was then and this is now. That man no longer follows your hour and that man is no longer a conservative.

 

 
Let's make the 2012 campaign: "The War on Error"
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Okay....

Submitted by Franksam on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 8:16am.

But at least Keith is still followed by a man.

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You mean Maddow?

Submitted by Newsbubba on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 12:15pm.

Everyone should go to Drudge and see the picture of her full body xray scan from TSA they have posted.

They really don't say it's her (er, him, whatever) but I suspect it is.

Comrade Bubba
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It's twue!! It's twue!! What They Say About The Huffington Post!

Submitted by im41 on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 2:43am.

I gave up waiting on an open thread

 

Glenn Beck's new website The Blaze came out with a piece today claiming that The Huffington Post was stealing intellectual property rights from from two guys helping with her website; well, they are not the only ones. Check this out

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Can't wait till tomorrow...

Submitted by Paul G on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 3:00am.

after the MRC thoroughly demolishes yet another Olbermann lie. 

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Just words ...

Submitted by metaphorsbwithu on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 3:06am.

The sad fact is some people actually believe that, just because people like Olbermann can string together sentences that contain words in a convincing manner, they actually mean something.

metaphorsbwithu
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Olbermann does not allow any decenting view

Submitted by bohratom on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 3:06am.

Anyone, even  true liberals, that think Olbermann is in the same category of Walter Cronkite should just look at one major difference. Olbermann does not let any dissenting  view from a republican. It's either his way or NO way...

It's just too funny that he compared himself to Walter Cronkite.

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facts is facts

Submitted by Jerry on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 3:10am.

"We do not make up facts here and when we make mistakes we correct them." 

Uhhh... facts by definition cannot be "made up" (and that's a fact).    What you do sir,  is pawn off "fabrications" as "news" to your gullible,  indoctrinated,  KOmrades.  

And if you really did "correct your mistakes",  you would have hooked up a vacumn cleaner to your vagina and sucked out that non-viable issue mass called "Countdown" before it was ever born.

BUT,  I like have Keisha around.   "He" is the perfect spokes"man" for the Progressive Party.

When asked if he went to war with Iraq  to derail the impeachment vote:  “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
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Olbermann redefined the word

Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 9:08am.

Olbermann redefined the word "facts" in the Mary Mapes/Dan Rather mold.

As to Olbermann fabricating things and flat-out lying, NewsBusters has done a pretty good job documenting many. And Olbermann rarely corrects his lies and errors. Such a sanctimonious doofus.

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I"d say Keef's intuition and

Submitted by killa37 on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 3:22am.

I"d say Keef's intuition and his IQ are both in the tank................

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Along with his ratings.

Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 9:09am.

Along with his ratings.

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Did Olbermann's mom evict him from her basement last year?

Submitted by HollyW on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 4:00am.

Ted Koppel retaliated against Olbermann's rant by suggesting Olbermann was evicted from his basement apartment last year....by his mom! http://www.thedailyrash.com/?p=1824 Olbermann has yet to respond. This could get good!

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There is a 'False God' in the mainstream media...

Submitted by ChrisNH on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 8:00am.

...His name is Dan Rather.

Practically ever bit of 'angst' and 'tumult' felt by the mainstream media...newspapers & TV news in particular...can be placed at the feet of Dan Rather.

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Me Thinks...

Submitted by notinstl on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 8:40am.

he doth protest too much!  what a whiny bitch

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The War Olbermann started

Submitted by motherbelt on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 8:47am.

I know no one watches Olbermann except the guys that have to report on him, so here is a good breakdown (that word my prove prescient with regard to Olbermann) of the war that Keith started as MSNBC,

Be sure to follow the link to Kurtz's Daily Beast article for more of the story.

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Boring "Speshul Kommentz"

Submitted by Texndoc on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 8:48am.

Yeah, Keef, when I think of WW II reporters broadcasting on radio from rooftops with bombs exploding about, I think of you.

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I didn't watch...

Submitted by jimbo297 on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 9:04am.

...but I can just see the little specks of saliva flying out of his mouth.  Keef-WHO CARES? 

As if his contrived passion and love for big, meaningful, smarter-than-you, words actually convinces anyone.  This is definitely an example of the message being co-opted by the messaging.  If he had a point, it was lost on any of his viewers--I don't think people really go for the "inside baseball" behind-the-scenes, historical perspective stuff.  His feigned outrage just dosn't do the trick.

Note to Keef:  Joe S is not a "conservative ex-congressman."  He is an "EX-CONSERVATIVE Congressman."  BIIIIG diff.

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Wacko

Submitted by Truestar on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 9:04am.

Olbermutt is a wacko. He's a pretend journalist who happens to speak well, but has zero concept of his subordinate position compared to his peers. His stupid ass "special comments" are in perfect oppositon to the saying that "brevity is the soul of wit". Meaning, he's a witless blowhard. He's a long-winded bore, who spouts lies with the ease of a high school debate flunk. Trouble is, it's a FACT that he doesn't even debate anyone on his program---he prefers to "lecture" his intellecually challenged audience on his own viewpoint. Indeed, it's as if Olbermutt has struck the gold mine at MSNBC---of every half-wit from high school, who couldn't speak his mind because he was too afraid, or too stupid.  He speaks well, but so do many of the wackos I see on the streets. I would hope that the Comcast takeover will spell the end for this self absorbed ninny. Not that I give a crap about MSNBC, but I'm so tired of reading about this idiot who so richly deserves oblivion.

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Take a good look at his description of Watergate - it's key

Submitted by mzk1 on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 9:14am.

"And if the result is that that other story over there is not just a third-rate burglary at a political office, but the tip of an iceberg meant to sink the two-party system in this country, you judge all the facts, and you scream so."

Or rather, if the man is of the wrong party, and you don't like the war going on, and the entire Left-wing (NOT at all small-l-liberal) establishment has a paranoid hatred and fear of him, then you (Dan Rather, for example) in your paranoia imagine he is doing something to destroy the country, and you in fact almost engineer a Congressional coup d'etat(*) and almost destroy the two-party system.(**)

THAT is what the establishment media did with Watergate.

Read carefully what Olberman says, because he is NOT alone. He is justifying a one-party system, where things are only illegal (de facto) if you are a Republican, because that is the only way there will be pressure to prosecute. It is not so bad since the Washington Times and talk radio and the internet, but something IS left of that, and it caused people a while back to think only Republicans had scandals. If it was left to people like him, in his well-meaning sincere fanaticism, popular rule (democracy to be simplistic) and free speech would be dead in this country.


(*) If Agnew had not refused to defend himself to avoid dual impeachment, see Al Haig's account)

(**) Not to mention what it did not the innocent people of Indochina and the left-wing legislation we still labor under.
 

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The guy is officially a laughingstock outside the left fringe...

Submitted by krendler on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 9:53am.

Beyond the extreme left that he panders to on a nightly basis, people either have no idea who the guy is or, if they are aware of his existence,  think he's a Sanchez-like buffoon / blowhard / creep.

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Olbermann vs. Koppel

Submitted by Geez Louise on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 9:53am.

SO IT'S COME TO THIS. The news is more about the EGOS of the Newscasters than it is about the NEWS. Frankly, every time I hear O'Reilly give the stats on Fox vs. Networks, I think he diminishes himself, his program and the NEWS. Same of course for the Olbermann and his ilk. 

Give us the NEWS and your OPINION, and leave the rock throwing at your competitors for after-hours sport. Grow up, and get over the little boy p*ssing contests. 

Geez Louise
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Was Bush ever on Obie's top 3 "worst" people?

Submitted by merly1 on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 10:26am.

Was Obama ever on it?  That could be a good comparison.........
were they both 0 for making the list?  Does anybody know.

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KeithBO's Rants Are Getting Old!

Submitted by gruyere cheese on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 11:08am.

This dude needs new material. Same goes for his partners in crime at MesSNBC. Bashing Bush and Americans who don't believe their crap is getting old.

These talking heads get paid a lot of money for a job where intelligence, experience and education are not part of their job description.

What they fail to understand is that this is 2010. Technology is evolving faster than it did many years ago; and so, we have other places to look for news and information to make decisions that affect us personally and challenge what they feed the public when they are on TV.

Although, I would not mind making 7.5 mil a year...oh well!

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What is it...

Submitted by onewiseguy on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 11:21am.

....with liberals and their blatant lies?

"...Claims Criticized Obama More in a Week that FNC Did Bush in 8 Years"

Seriously? He can make that claim with a serious face? That statement is SO absurd and false it just defies logic.

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What a BlowHard

Submitted by Yeti on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 11:23am.

I found myself almost mesmerised by this "Bastion of Knowledge", but ultimately, realized I had gas.  This "man" is good at saying absolutely nothing and he makes no bones about it.

Yeti
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same garbage

Submitted by sometimesright on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 11:25am.

more unsubstantiated baseless unchalleneged bs from this idiot.  i'd swear he and maddow are reading from the same script. i guess for such a hefty paycheck some people will say and do anything. beside the point, are we supposed to believe he's actually WATCHED Fox?

"Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first." Ronald Reagan
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The Olbermann "fact"

Submitted by okiehawk44 on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 11:34am.

Olbermann has no real audience. No viewers. No ratings.  Without corporate support from GE  his show would have be long ago cancelled. GE/NBC/MSNBC prove this wrong. Challenge K.O. to beat O'Reilly just one time -- just one time show that you have an audience just waiting to unleash its pent up support for you.

The masses see through this charade even if his bosses do not or cannot bring themselves to accept  that Keith Olbermann is to facts what Charlie Rangel is to ethics.

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Delusional....

Submitted by notinstl on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 12:12pm.

The only way to describe it.   He thinks Scarborough is conservative?  His other tripe:  try to prove Fox/Cnn "wouldn't" run something.

A self-important, narcissistic, pathetic a-hole.

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Delusional may be too light

Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 1:43pm.

Delusional may be too light of a term. Clinically insane perhaps?

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This fart is the best asset

Submitted by RealVet on Wed, 11/17/2010 - 10:53pm.

This fart is the best asset that the GOP has.  Everything he spews is a classic example of flawed liberal thinking.  The poster boy for every aspect of abnormal psychology.

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