Appearing as a guest on Monday’s The Ed Show on MSNBC, former DNC chairman Howard Dean renewed his discredited claim that FNC had played clips of former USDA official Shirley Sherrod before her forced resignation, and suggested that Fox News Sunday anchor Chris Wallace had deceived him in denying that there was FNC coverage before her firing. Dean: "I happen to like Chris Wallace, but he was really not being exactly accurate when he talked about ‘we didn`t say one word about this before the Secretary of Agriculture fired her.’ The fact of the matter is they were pushing this story very, very hard all day. It may be true that they didn`t mention her name, but they sure did run the tape without mentioning her name."
Earlier in the show, host Ed Schultz had played the clip of Wallace correcting Dean’s assertions about FNC from the previous day’s Fox News Sunday. Wallace: "I know facts are inconvenient things, but let`s try to deal with the facts. The fact is that the Obama administration fired or forced Shirley Sherrod to quit before her name had ever been mentioned on Fox News Channel."
After Dean’s claims about FNC showing the Sherrod video, Schultz followed up by asking if Fox News is "racist in what they do," leading Dean to answer in the affirmative and to accuse Fox News of "inflaming racial hatred":
Story Continues Below Ad ↓ED SCHULTZ: So is Fox News racist in what they do? You said that Chris Wallace is not-
HOWARD DEAN: Sure they are.
SCHULTZ: Okay.
DEAN: No, I don`t think Chris is. I like Chris. I wouldn`t go on his show if I didn`t think he was a decent guy. But the fact of the matter is, what Fox News is doing is inflaming racial hatred. They have this story line of black racism tolerated by the Obama administration. Their anchors do it, all kinds of people do it. In fact, Fox News is not news at all, it`s propaganda.
Dean repeatedly praised Wallace, saying he is a "straight shooter," but also asserted that "he does occasionally have to mouth the propaganda that Ailes tells him to. "
Below is a transcript of the relevant portion of the Monday, July 26, The Ed Show on MSNBC:
ED SCHULTZ: But this is the story that has me fired up to start our program tonight. Newt Gingrich and his allies at Fox News are on a seek and destroy character assassination mission against President Obama and the Democrats. Six days after recklessly throwing Shirley Sherrod under the bus without any facts, Newt was back at it. He was back at it again, and you guessed it, on Fox News Sunday. This time he has his sights set on President Obama.
NEWT GINGRICH, FROM FOX NEWS SUNDAY: A fair case can be made that this administration acted with destructive irresponsibility in the way that they fired her.
SCHULTZ: Take a look at how destructively irresponsible Newt was when he attacked Sherrod the night the story broke.
GINGRICH, FROM THE HANNITY SHOW ON FNC: Firing her after that kind of viciously racist attitude was exactly the right thing to do. And the fact that we have to be genuinely color blind, you can`t be a black racist any more than you can be a white racist.
SCHULTZ: Was that a 180? Chris Wallace asked Newt if he wanted to apologize for being irresponsible. Got a classic Newtster answer.
GINGRICH: Remember, I was operating in the context of the Secretary of Agriculture having summarily fired her, and therefore there was no reason to disbelieve the clip. And what you see was one more example of the Obama administration`s continuing incompetence.
SCHULTZ: So you accept Breitbart as a journalist. Gingrich has zero credibility on this issue, and he isn`t man enough to apologize to an innocent woman he smeared on national television.
The only continuing incompetence in this story belongs to Fox News and the rest of the conservative media for trying to convince you, the viewer, that Barack Obama has a deep-seated hatred for white people. Howard Dean went into their own foxhole and gave it right back to them.
HOWARD DEAN, FORMER DNC CHAIRMAN: Let`s just be blunt about this. I don`t think Newt Gingrich is a racist, and you`re certainly not a racist. But I think Fox News did something that was absolutely racist. They took a, they had an obligation to find out what was really in the clip. They had been pushing a theme of black racism with this phony Black Panther crap and this business, and Sotomayor and all this other stuff. I think you got to be very, I think that, look, the Tea Party called out their racist fringe, and I think the Republican Party has got to stop appealing to its racist fringe. And Fox News is what did that.
SCHULTZ: Well, Chris Wallace broke out the Fox talking points to defend the right-wing network`s coverage.
CHRIS WALLACE, FOX NEWS SUNDAY: I know facts are inconvenient things, but let`s try to deal with the facts. The fact is that the Obama administration fired or forced Shirley Sherrod to quit before her name had ever been mentioned on Fox News Channel.
SCHULTZ: Fox wants you to believe when Ag Secretary Tom Vilsack jumped the gun, that it gave them just free rein to use an edited clip to paint the Obama administration as a bunch of closeted African-American radicals.
Newt and his buddies Beck and Hannity have pushed the fringe to believe that President Obama
has a hidden agenda to destroy white America. They desperately have tried to scare little old white ladies that the Black Panthers are just out to get them across the board.
Howard Dean nailed it. Fox News did exactly, what they did was absolutely racist during the Shirley Sherrod story. Until Newt Gingrich shows the guts to apologize, he`s no better than "Slant Head" or Andrew Breitbart. Sources don`t matter. It`s the mission that is so important. It`s the mission to destroy the progressive movement in this country. That`s their agenda over there. And that was the theme, one of the themes of my talks at the Nation Netroots national conference the other night in Las Vegas.
Democrats, we cannot be afraid to tell it like it is. Fighting fire with fire with 99 days to go to make sure Americans make the correct choice is really what it`s going to take, all hands on deck. And every time they state something that is false, or every time they try to position the Obama
administration as nothing but a bunch of radicals, if we sit here and just take that stuff, then we`re going to have an outcome that`s not good for America. They are out to destroy the progressive movement in this country at all costs. And if they have to play the race card to do it, any morsel of information, they`ll find somebody like a Breitbart that will twist up the tape and slant it out there, and that`s really what they do best. Get your cell phones out. I want to know what you think.
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And the big thing about this is this: Fox is masterful at finding people like Newt to back up anything they throw out there. It`s like a machine. And in this information culture that we have, give it to me fast, make it easy for me to understand, don`t bore me with the details, it`s just unfortunate that so many Americans just suck it up carte blanche and say, "Ah, it`s easier just to listen and think it." We`ve got to be better than that as Americans. Joining me now is Governor Howard Dean, former chairman of the DNC. Governor Dean, good to have you with us tonight here on the Ed Show. ... You had a very aggressive nature yesterday, and I think a lot of people across this country who are liberals were saying it`s about time. Is this what the Democrats have to do to hold the majority in the midterm, in your opinion?
HOWARD DEAN, FORMER DNC CHAIRMAN: Yeah, we have nothing to be ashamed of. The truth is that the stimulus package has saved a ton of jobs, that the Bush economy, recession, would be much worse without the stimulus package. The truth is that the President has a very good, for example, environmental record. He signed the first executive order in the history of the country requiring the federal government, most of it, to comply with Kyoto. The truth is the Wall Street package didn`t go as far as a lot of people wanted, but it is much further than the Republicans wanted. And the truth is we got dug a deep hole by Bush and these very same people who want to go back to the Bush agenda. And we`ve got a lot to be proud of, and we ought to stand up and be proud of it.
SCHULTZ: No doubt. So do you think that the conservatives and the conservative broadcasters are going to play the race card any chance they get because of some of the successes you think that President Obama and his team has had? What do you think?
DEAN: Sure, they always do. And, by the way, you know, I happen to like Chris Wallace, but he was really not being exactly accurate when he talked about "we didn`t say one word about this before the Secretary of Agriculture fired her." The fact of the matter is they were pushing this story very, very hard all day. It may be true that they didn`t mention her name, but they sure did run the tape without mentioning her name. And they cranked up this story after getting this piece of junk from Breitbart, which any third grader could have told you was cut off.
SCHULTZ: So is Fox News racist in what they do? You said that Chris Wallace is not-
DEAN: Sure they are.
SCHULTZ: Okay.
DEAN: No, I don`t think Chris is. I like Chris. I wouldn`t go on his show if I didn`t think he was a decent guy. But the fact of the matter is, what Fox News is doing is inflaming racial hatred. They have this story line of black racism tolerated by the Obama administration. Their anchors do it, all kinds of people do it. In fact, Fox News is not news at all, it`s propaganda.
SCHULTZ: Looking forward, why do Democrats go on Fox News? What do they gain from it?
DEAN: Well, you know, there`s a debate about that which I think is legitimate. I go on because I like Chris and I think he`s a straight shooter, even though he does occasionally have to mouth the propaganda that Ailes tells him to. But I think he`s a good guy. I think other Democrats sometimes go on it because, you know, they do have an audience, and we need to talk to that audience. It`s really sort of like the 50-state strategy. If you never talk to people, then they get to believe all that nonsense they see on Fox every day. So I do think, even though I don`t do it myself except for the shows that-
SCHULTZ: So you think that Democrats have, wait a minute. You think that Democrats, liberals have to go on Fox to be successful?
DEAN: No, I don`t think so, and I think it`s sort of a matter of conscience. I don`t criticize people like myself who pretty much refuse except for Chris, nor do I criticize Democrats who decide to go on. I think everybody has to make that choice for themselves. There`s things to be said in favor of talking to the Fox audience, and there`s also things to be said staying off the programs run by bullies.
SCHULTZ: Governor Dean, good to have you with us tonight. Thanks for being aggressive on this issue. They play the race card every chance they possibly can. I appreciate your time tonight.
—Brad Wilmouth is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.
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Well, the mad hatter got
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 02:36 ET by killa37Well, the mad hatter got completely busted by Wallace on Fox News, and I think Wallace cut him some slack, to tell you the truth!! He could have torn Dean apart, and been totally honest with the whole thing........that's how out of touch Dean was.
Of course.....he can go on with Sgt. Schultz and make it all up to be different than it really was...........both of these guys live in parrallel universes.
You know Dean is lying the
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 06:52 ET by motherbeltYou know Dean is lying the minute the words "The fact of the matter is" come out of his mouth.
Well, then, Howard, how about telling us one time or on whose show it ran on Fox?
But he and Sgt. (I know nothing!) Schultz and others will keep repeating this canard until it becomes an integral part of the narrative. That's their intention; they don't care about the truth.
I can hear Howard Dean now...
And they played it at 8AM, and they played it 10 AM, and then they played it a noon, and at 1:15 PM, and at 3 PM, and at 4PM.....YEEEEEAAAAAH!
Damage control
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 08:16 ET by GalvanicAfter Dean self-destructed on Wallace's show, it was only a matter of time before he fled to MSNBC for sanctuary and redemption.
Dean can utter his lies on MSNBC because it's audience wants to hear them. Consensus facts on MSNBC.
If I was Chris Wallace, I'd keep the tape of Dean's interview with Schultz and playback the "Fox News is racist" exchange the next time Dean dares to come on the program.
MSNBC as a liberal sanctuary network?
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 08:27 ET by jondelwicheGood one! ;oD
Dean did need it, after Sunday's smackdown.......
Nothing...
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 10:15 ET by unkeeafNothing but a liberal smear campaign to impugn the integrity of the network. It will work on some independents who aren't smart enough to see through the BS.
This is a group of scum like we have never seen in this country. I really don't know how we co-exist with these people long term. They want to destroy our country. After all, they're communists.
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Their logic
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 09:09 ET by KC MulvilleFoxNews is pushing a racist agenda. Proof? They ran an edited clip out of context that made a black woman look bad.
Sure, we can debate about the edited clip. But using it as proof of the general premise only works if you accept the "Fox is racist" premise in the first place. Running the clip, however, doesn't prove anything because (as Newt and Chris Wallace pointed out) the NAACP ran it too. You can't argue, then, that running that clip proves the intent to inflame racism. They're assuming what they're trying to prove.
The argument against Obama is not that he's a racist, it's that he's a flaming liberal. Eric Holder's decision to hold back on the Black Panthers case is a liberal decision, not a racist one. The canard that blacks can't be racist, and therefore can't be guilty of racism, is a liberal notion, not a black one. Howard Dean finds it convenient to label it racist, because calling it liberal wouldn't help his cause.
The argument against Obama
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 10:39 ET by JerThe argument against Obama is not that he's a racist, it's that he's a flaming liberal.
If that's the argument, you are one of the few who is making it. At this website, the argument is more customarily framed as Obama: the Marxist, Muslim, Kenyan racist. I can't recall the last time I witnessed his being described as a mere "flaming liberal".
Jer
Marxist, flaming liberal, socialist, statist, whatever.
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 11:06 ET by no tingly legsAll distinctions without much difference. You say potato, I say patattah. It's all the same crap.
NO MORE HOAX & CHAINS
If you say "patattah",
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 11:13 ET by JerIf you say "patattah", you've got a problem.
Jer
Jer:Isn't that the way
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 18:27 ET by stratmanJer:
Isn't that the way they say "potato" on the East coast, like in Rhode Island where John Kerry docked his boat to avoid $500,000 in taxes to Massachusetts?
;-)
I've heard Southern Ohioans say "patater".
strat...
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 21:15 ET by JerIndeed. The same as Kerry and his forebears have been pronouncing it since the days of 'Jin-jus' Kahn. I didn't think tingly leg would wish to be associated with their ilk.
BTW, once south of the KY-TN border, we tend to eschew the first syllable altogether and opt for the more succinct (and succulent) "tater".
Jer
Hmm Mmm
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 21:50 ET by stratmanLike Karl says in the movie Sling Blade:
So old 'Jin-jus' was---
Thu, 07/29/2010 - 03:49 ET by matthewdeanJewish.
Kahn.
I did not know that.
Wonder if he knew Genghis Khan, the Mongolian Conqueror?
MD
Sock it to 'em, Chris
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 03:38 ET by JeffersonI want Chris Wallace to send Mr. Dean tape of that entire days worth of Fox News. Then invite him, Dean, back on the show to show where Fox News showed the video or mentioned Mrs. Sherrod... Either that, or apologize and state he, Dean, was the one who was mistaken.
Bring Special Ed too, smack
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 06:44 ET by bretzysdudeBring Special Ed too, smack both of them down!
Play the video tape!
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 06:54 ET by Red JeepLiberals don't like certainty about anything. They always want to quibble and look for shades of grey.
A fact is a fact. He got SNOOKERED by his liberal buddies, or maybe he snookered himself.
Wallace Needs To Invite Dean Back On
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 04:00 ET by txradioguyAnd ask him specifically where the lie and the misleading was in FNC reporting....and then follow up by asking him to elaborate on his claim that the NBPP voter intimidation case was "phony"
To me...THAT is the biggest thing to come out of the whole interview and no one has latched onto it.
"I May Be Changed By War, But I Will Not Be Defeated By It" - Audie Murphy
Agreed
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 08:23 ET by GalvanicDean loves to throw a grenade or two as he leads into his main point, and then deflect attempts to return to the scene of the blasts.
I'd invite him back specifically to explain his claims, and if he declines, then play the clips and note that Dean declined to defend them.
How many millions of people
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 12:27 ET by killa37How many millions of people watch Fox?? How many thousands watch or listen to Sgt. Shultz?? And how many fingers on your hand do you need to count how many people give a rat's rear end about Howard 'Yeeeeeeaaaaaahhhhh!!!' Dean??? The guy hardly mattered even when he DID 'matter'..............
Dean is full of it period.He
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 04:11 ET by well99Dean is full of it period.He can flap his gums all he wants but it doesnt change the facts.
Dean is really reaching
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 04:37 ET by syvyn11If he thinks one little blurb on Foxnews.com and a 15 second mention on O'Reilly counts as 'wall to wall coverage', he needs to rethink.
IIRC, I saw video about Sherrod on abcnews.go on July 19.
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 06:34 ET by ekslibWhen I hear a sensational story I verify it through Google News and Yahoo News.
All I can find, so far, when I try to find the actual article I read, is an ABC/AP article and short video of Sherrod's speech, which was published on Jul 20
USDA Worker Quits Over Racism Charge
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=11204221
I still think I saw a video on ABC in the afternoon of July 19.
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This is amazing...
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 06:59 ET by jdripperFOX News needs to fight back on this. Howard Dean has a long history of lying out of his butt hole. I would put together a collage of famous Dean lies and roast him.
Jack
You'd need to have a lot of
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 12:28 ET by killa37You'd need to have a lot of time on your hands...............
Dean and Shultz. Two snakes
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 07:12 ET by ThisnThatDean and Shultz. Two snakes slithering along, leaving slime whereever they go.
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TnT
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 07:55 ET by toneyukiI believe worms or slugs would be more appropriate.
Progressivism= Punishing the successful and rewarding the lazy. Where empathy trumps law. Me
Know body is listening to
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 07:13 ET by ricklailKnow body is listening to this rasicm crap except the Dems and their hind tit sucking piglets. It is not working. You should have seen the comments in the local paper when the top local Demorat propogandizer sent her lastest letter. Even her followers, which are good little moombats, have been silent on this letter.
Semper superne nitens
Guns kill like a fork made Rosie O'Donnell fat.
Uh hoh geez....listen to Howard.
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 07:20 ET by NeoKongThis from the man lying through his teeth to a left-wing media butt boy. He gets busted telling a lie by Wallace so what does he do....? He goes on Schultz's show where his lie is put on a pedestal and prayed to. The thing here that is so amazing is that it is such an easy lie to disprove and yet they peddle it anyways. That shows that this is a organized smear campaign that comes straight from the top.
Retire Barney.
Support Sean Bielat for Congress
Typical activist tacticts being used by the dems.
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 08:09 ET by c5thenThey are using the same tactics that they used back in the 70's to get abortion legalized. Repeat a lie over and over until so many people have herd it on the "news" that they think it is the truth. This is where the media's lack of challenge is really approval. They are allowing themselves to be used in this campign because they agree with the end that it is trying to achieve. In this case the censoring or elimination of FoxNews, one of their biggest competitors.
Throw 'da bums out!!!
Remember in November
Let's start rebuilding the Republic!
As usual the liberals
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 08:47 ET by MazziAs usual the liberals twisted something out of proportion. As Breitbart said:
"this was not about Sherrod. It's about the NAACP...this is showing
racism at an NAACP event. I did not ask for Sherrod to be
fired. I did not ask for any repercussions for Sherrod. They
were the ones that took the initiative to get rid of her"
In other words, this was about "the big picture" and liberals can't understand that at all. All they can see and all they can focus on is the specific event. This is why Sherrod got fired in the first place. The libtards in the WH, in the media and at the NAACP thought it was about the woman and not about the culture of the reverse racist organization.
Just as we can't stop a white racist from believing in what he believes in, we can't stop a black racist from doing it. BUT when a racist of any color stands in a room full of powerful leaders and those leaders appear to sympathize with the speaker's racist beliefs, it is a problem and it deserves to be published.
In this case, the audience members made it clear that they too understood and accepted the fact that Sherrod was straight-up racist when she talked about that part of the story. Since they did not know at that time that Sherrod was going to go on to say "but I was wrong", the inference is that the black leaders sitting in that room empathized with Sherrods gut reaction of racism. THAT is the point.
As a white person, I KNOW that there are blacks who dislike me or distrust me simply for being white. I have been told numerous times that I have changed an individuals opinions of white people. That is clear then, that the individual started out thinking badly of me, siomply for the color of my skin. That, my friends, is the definition of racism.
Breitbart's airing of this video clearly shows that racism swings both ways, and that was the point. Sherrod should be pointing fingers at NAACP and "her kind" (liberals) for kicking her to the curb. Period.
"I would rather be historically accurate than politically correct" ~ My husband's T-Shirt
Thank you. Very good
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 09:27 ET by Martin2717Thank you. Very good points. Don't forget the class warfare part. This "redemption" she had became about only helping the poor which is still discrimination. The LSM and even some conservatives are missing the point of this entire saga of what Breitbart did. Notice the NAACP has been quiet about this since about last Tuesday. They know they were busted.
Precisely why---
Thu, 07/29/2010 - 04:04 ET by matthewdeanhouse libs here at NBs' went nutso in trying to paint Breitbart with whatever bad colors they found on their palette, or whatever nuanced shades they could mix up.
"White" racist, "Yellow " journalist, "Blackguard".
Well, he is not a racist, he is not a journalist, and he is not a scoundrel.
He is, however, a big thorn in liberalisms' big butt, as well as their side.
Oo-rah!!
MD
So what if
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 09:18 ET by Tugboat PhilFNC HAD pushed the WH to get her fired? Anyone recall the last time FNC had any clout there? Sure, Fox is the favorite whipping post for them, but they wouldn't even allow them to ask questions at pressers if they could get away with it.
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Wed, 07/28/2010 - 09:19 ET by BoudinBSing a BSer
Thanks for being aggressive on this issue. They play the race card
every chance they possibly can.
These 2 are living a fantasy. The race baiting of the left has no boundaries!
Pick someone...and call them a "racist"
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 10:02 ET by krendleras the JournoList put it so elequently. Only in this case, Dean's decided to call an entire network "racist."
Interesting that a news organization isn't being called out for stories they *don't* cover ("bury"). They're being called out for providing too much information to their viewers.
FOX pretty much covers everything, including stories that the other outlets refuse to report (because they might reflect poorly on Obama). It's the other networks that have the filters on. The fact that FOX doesn't have such a filter is somehow "racist."
Goes back to the liberal mentality that if you criticize or even disagree with someone and that someone happens to be black, you're a "racist." Obama, Brazile and msm used it on Bill Clinton in 2008.
JournoList
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 13:00 ET by ConservatorPerhaps Dean and Schultz are members of the JournoList. Exactly where in this interview did either of these far Left-wingers prove that FOX was pushing this story all day? And Schultz has the audacity to accused an entire network of being racists - yeah right. I seem to recall that was one of the tactics of JournoList - let's call Barnes and Rove racists to protect Obama and his Reverend of 20 years, Jeremiah Wright from his inflammatory racial an anti-American rhetoric.
With nutfkers like this
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 11:19 ET by ThoreauWith nutfkers like this accusing Fox News, I think we can just ignore them now. Apparently the smartest among them, and the dumbest of us figured this out a long time ago. Fox didn't make a PEEP about this story until AFTER she was already FIRED.
That
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 15:07 ET by jessieHThat's exactly why Dean wasn't elected President, never will be. He's either a liar, a fool or both.
He's both and I
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 16:46 ET by Chris NormanHe's both and I believe mentally unstable too boot...
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Inconvenient Fact: O'Reilly called for Sherrod's Firing BEFORE
Mon, 08/23/2010 - 17:02 ET by CeeCeeChris Wallace implies that Fox covered the Sherrod tape only because she had already been fired.
The fact is that O'Reilly's show was recorded before the firing. O'Reilly played the Sherrod tape and called for her to be fired. His pre-recorded show ran after the firing since the firing happened so quickly, but had she not been fired, his show (and most likely all of the evening lineup) would still have been railing about this "reverse racist."
It wasn't the firing that prompted Fox to run with the story. It was the chance to run what they thought was a juicy "reverse racism" story, no investigative journalism required.
Well, that was certainly worth waiting three + years for
Mon, 08/23/2010 - 17:10 ET by SickofLibsWell, that was certainly worth waiting three + years for
Well, that post---
Tue, 08/24/2010 - 01:42 ET by matthewdeanby Cee Cee sure cleared up any misunderstanding I may have had about the whole mess.
I am, in a word, underwhelmed.
MD