If 45,000 die every year from lack of health care and we are in a crisis, why will this plan not go into effect until 2014?? Im just asking.

The myth of 45,000 lives on. Liberals really do get to just make up their own facts don't they?

What is this physical discomfort I feel so strongly every time I read any posts about Olbermann or Shuster?

I feel terrible because I think I'm a nice person, but I really want to see these two get their butts kicked.

No matter what comes out of their mouths, all I ever hear is, "I hate this country and I love myself!"

Didn't Keith Olbermann just throw a temper tantrum a couple of weeks ago saying that he would go to jail before he would be required to buy health insurance?  He said this bill was unsupportable. 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34455168/ns/msnbc_tv-countdown_with_keith_ol...

NB already covered the 45,000 lie back in November and September. It is a complete bogus bunch of huey.

David Dranove: As it turns out, a figure of 0 additional deaths might also be correct.  That is because the Harvard study uses a methodology that is inherently biased.

Michelle Malkin: So, how did these political doctors come up with the 44,000 figure? They used data from a health survey conducted between 1988 and 1994. The questionnaires asked a sample of 9,000 participants if they were insured and how they rated their own health. The federal Centers for Disease Control tracked the deaths of people in the sample group through the year 2000. Drs. Himmelstein, Woolhandler, and company then crunched the numbers and attributed deaths to lack of health insurance for all the participants who initially self-reported that they had no insurance and then died for any reason over the 12-year tracking period.

Docs 4 patient care -

Faulty Methodology. The new study in the American Journal of Public Health applies flawed methodology to reach overstated conclusions.

Overstates the Risk of Death. When Professor June O’Neill, former Director of the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), used a similar approach she found that the involuntarily uninsured (low-income people) were 3% more likely to die during a 14-year period than those covered by health insurance.

Medicaid is Worse. The uninsured in this study are disproportionally poor, minority, high school dropouts and unemployed. Although this study ignores Medicaid, bills before Congress would try to insure this group by expanding Medicaid. The O’Neill study found that people enrolled in Medicaid have a much higher mortality rate than the uninsured. In other words, Medicaid enrollment lowers life expectancy rather than raising it.

Canadian Health Care (the authors’ preferred system) is Worse. The authors of this study are on record as favoring Canada’s system of single-payer national health insurance. Yet insured patients in Canada fare worse than the uninsured in the United States.

Need more? 

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

Olbermann's specialty.

Olbermann is an ass.

Those fighting health care reform – not those debating its shape or its
nuance – people who demand the status quo, they are killing 45,000
Americans a year. 

It's been said before, but bears repeating, when they go off talking about "nuance" it really means "BOHICA".

If it doesn't hit the 46,000 death threshold, I don't even want to discuss it.

By the way, how many trees were cut down in order to write that Health Care Bill?

Each day it seems the lunatic fringe finds a new way to permit its adherents to view the rest of us as a little less than human

And Every day the Liberals think of another way to strip Americans of their dignity.

We've got Obama's choice to head the TSA, Erroll Southers, a man who has admitted to using background checks to dig up dirt on his personal enemies.  And we're going to trust him with explicit pictures of our children's bodies?

This scanner they're wanting to buy won't pick up a bomb disguised as a tampon, and they know it.

And heaven forbid they allow an unclean sniffer dog to go near some pious Muslim.

Oh, yeah.  We were talking about Keith Olbermann and his crusade against Americans.  Haven't we already said everything that needs to be said about Keith?

I'm tempted to derail the next ten threads that deal with either Chris or Keith.

But I have to show some respect for the contributors whose job it is to watch and report on them.  It's the least I can do.

I am curious how many of the 45,000 that die without insurance died from junk food/poor eating habits, lack of exercise, cigarette, alcohol or drug related illnesses like diabetes, heart disease, lung cancer, hypertension, cardiovascular disease, etc....

Certainly there are medical conditions that arise that are not self induced, but  aren't many of those diseases that kill actually self inflicted?