As he appeared as a guest on Thursday’s Countdown show on MSNBC to discuss Joe the Plumber’s recent criticism of the Republican party, Newsweek’s Richard Wolffe started off by suggesting that Republicans had "lost their heart" in the 1980s and had "lost their mind" in the 1990s. Wolffe: "You know, if they lost their heart in the 1980s, and they lost their mind in the 1990s, what we've seen in the 2000s is Republicans losing their image, and they lost it on national security."
Wolffe later demeaned the intelligence of participants in the recent Tax Day Tea Parties, whom he referred to as "tea baggers," and charged that they want to "have their cake and eat it." Wolffe:
Joe the Plumber was never the Obi-Wan Kenobi of the party, but he is, on this libertarian wing, representative of, frankly, the tea baggers. And again, we try to avoid the puns here, but he represents this idea that you can have your cake and eat it. You can actually be a limited government party but also intervene in just about everything, whether it's in every possible war zone around the world, that's why you need such huge national defense spending, or where it comes to social conservatism that Sarah Palin represents. You cannot do both. You cannot be libertarian and also interfere in every part of the world and every part of people's lives, and that intellectual incoherence is represented by the great seminal figure of Joe the Plumber.
When the discussion turned to Newt Gingrich’s recent criticism of the Obama administration delivered on Fox News, Wolffe bizarrely suggested that kittens might have been "trodden" in the headquarters of Fox News. Wolffe:
[Newt Gingrich] also goes out on Fox News and says that, you know, the President isn't tough enough to take on the Somali pirates. He's obviously positioning himself for a presidential run. I just wonder what the situation was in the Fox News headquarters. I'm sure there were a couple of kittens who got trodden on today. He was with Al Sharpton, after all.
Below is a complete transcript of the segment from the Thursday, May 7, Countdown show on MSNBC:
KEITH OLBERMANN: The Republicans lost Congress, lost the White House, lost a can't-lose election to fill Senator Gillibrand's seat in the House, lost Senator Specter to the Democrats and now it looks like they've lost Joe the Plumber. And as inconsequential as he is as a person, as a symbol, does he represent some sort of tipping point?
RICHARD WOLFFE, NEWSWEEK: Well, all puns aside, there isn't a tipping point in this. It's more of a marker in the long-term decline of the party. You know, if they lost their heart in the 1980s, and they lost their mind in the 1990s, what we’ve seen in the 2000s is Republicans losing their image, and they lost it on national security. And here you have the epitome of image, really the only reason there was a Joe the Plumber or a Sarah Palin was because they were reaching out for that old electoral icon, the regular working Joe. And, of course, it didn’t matter that they hadn’t vetted him, that his name wasn't Joe, and that he wasn’t a plumber. They thought they could reach people just by throwing an image out there. And what you're seeing here is that Joe, if that's his name, was never really a Republican, he was really a libertarian, and that this is a party that has just run out of every last tactic. They ran out of ideas, and now they're out of strategy. And Joe doesn't represent anything more than the end of a very long decline.
OLBERMANN: I often quote my heroes Bob Elliott and Ray Goulding, and they once made an observation before doing a satire of a man in the street interview, why do we ask the man in the street, the typical man in the street, for an interview? Why do we assume he could possibly know what he's talking about, or even that the odds are very good on a given topic, and yet, here he is, the man in the street if ever there was one, Wurzelbacher, says, to keep him, the Republicans would have to quit overspending without cutting defense or Social Security or Medicare or Medicaid. Does that illustrate how impossible a position the GOP has maneuvered itself into? It has made not only promises to people, but it has made them believe that impossible promises can somehow become possible just by wishing.
WOLFFE: Right. And it's not just, look, Joe the Plumber was never the Obi-Wan Kenobi of the party, but he is, on this libertarian wing, representative of, frankly, the tea baggers. And again, we try to avoid the puns here, but he represents this idea that you can have your cake and eat it. You can actually be a limited government party but also intervene in just about everything, whether it's in every possible war zone around the world, that's why you need such huge national defense spending, or where it comes to social conservatism that Sarah Palin represents. You cannot do both. You cannot be libertarian and also interfere in every part of the world and every part of people’s lives, and that intellectual incoherence is represented by the great seminal figure of Joe the Plumber.
OLBERMANN: And now he's replaced by someone from the past, one assumes, Newt Gingrich here, representing the Republican viewpoint at the White House today and being very malleable in what he had to say about the Obama administration, but does that demonstrate the other huge problem for the GOP right now, there isn't somebody to turn to, to even replace a plumber?
WOLFFE: Well, Newt's positioning is interesting here. He first of all shows a soft underbelly. He does the education thing. He's been saying nice things about health care. And, of course, then he also goes out on Fox News and says that, you know, the President isn't tough enough to take on the Somali pirates. He's obviously positioning himself for a presidential run. I just wonder what the situation was in the Fox News headquarters. I'm sure there were a couple of kittens who got trodden on today. He was with Al Sharpton, after all.
OLBERMANN: That’s another one. One would have to be about 175 years old to have a distinct memory of a national political party in this country actually disintegrating, actually moving from part of the two-party system to outside of it. Yet, the Time magazine piece from which the Wurzelbacher news comes is titled, "Republicans in the Wilderness: Is the Party Over?" And it began with the use of the term, "The aura of endangered species." Is it that bad? I mean, could the presidential challenger of 2012 or 2016 not be a Republican?
WOLFFE: I think if the economy continues as it is, if it's stumbling along, then you're in a situation where an independent character does come in, maybe without a traditional party line, but let's not write them off too quickly here. Republicans will come back, and Democrats are going to have to be ready for that.
—Brad Wilmouth is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.



















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Oh no...I don't know what I
May 10, 2009 - 22:45 ET by bigtimerOh no...I don't know what I would do before the evening comes to an end without the wisdom of the little wussified mouse Richard Wolffe.
Oh wait...I do!
I ignore him.
Then again I know who he is and could care less one way or the other what he has to say.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
And Newsweek lost its readers
May 10, 2009 - 22:56 ET by Arminiusduring the 2000s, mostly because of left-wing smears such as Wolffe's.
Newsbleak!
May 10, 2009 - 23:02 ET by blazermaniacNewsbleak lost their readers about one month into it's publication.
i guess they wanted it
May 10, 2009 - 23:33 ET by TruthMongeri guess they wanted it "both ways" like Joe the MSM ass-kicker
government is the communists capitalism
Is it just me,
May 10, 2009 - 23:03 ET by dervishor are these assclowns starting to sound just a wee bit desperate? You can almost hear the klaxon in the background.
a wee bit - ya think?!? oh
May 10, 2009 - 23:29 ET by TruthMongera wee bit - ya think?!? oh yeah baby:)
Reagan only had to contrast Carter - who is off-the-charts superior now compared to oblama
Palin's gonna have it ridiculously easy
government is the communists capitalism
Olbermann, you gutless son of a b*tch!
May 11, 2009 - 11:56 ET by TailgunnerWhy don't you talk TO Cheney and Joe the Plumber and Newt Gingrich instead of ABOUT them?
Because you'd soil your drawers if you found yourself in the same room with these guys, especially Dick Cheney, and you know it.
Instead of that ideological circle-jerk you and your liberal punks call a discussion, why don't you grow a pair and actually FACE conservatives instead of backstabbing them?
'Cause you're a God d**n coward, that's why!
I hope you read this, or one of your flunkies or puppetmasters forwards it.
(thanks: Bigtimer)
NOLO PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
Conservative Resurgence
May 10, 2009 - 23:37 ET by MAS1916Conservatives have some good reason to be optimistic. With every liberal take-over, it usually requires 20 months or so for them to make a disaster of the economy as well as foreign policy.
When inflation hits double digits next year due to the Stimulus spending, Obama will not be able to blame this on anyone. The Democrats will be compelled to take responsibility for everything that always goes wrong with liberal economic policy (inflation, unemployment and interest rates).
In foreigh policy, Americans can now only hope that we aren't attacked again. Our defenses have been reduced by a leader whose foreign policy objective is to make America 'liked.'
The best recommendation conservatism can have is from liberals who fail. And they never fail to fail.
For ten reasons why Conservatives should be optimistic, you can hit:
http://firstconserva...
The Republican Party must move to the left, support income
May 11, 2009 - 00:29 ET by Rush Fanredistribution, reduce carbon dioxide, and must be "willing to sacrifice economic growth or endure higher prices in order to save the planet." Otherwise, the Republican Party will remain an outcast for generations to come.
So reports the Los Angeles Times in a piece titled: The Republican Party ignores young 'millennials' at its peril. To support their contention, the Times used a poll by one of the top polling institutions in the country, the renowned Daily Kos tracking poll.
The renowned Daily Kos tracking poll shows: Only 9% of millennials polled expressed a favorable opinion of the Republican Party. Only 7% were positive about the GOP's congressional leaders. By contrast, 65% of millennials had a favorable opinion of the Democratic Party, and a majority also approved of congressional Democrats.
So Republicans and conservatives unite! Let's begin right now to get back into the good graces of our young people. Horace Greeley popularized the phrase "Go west young man." I say to my fellow Republicans and conservatives: Go Left young men (and women)! Let's tell Arlen Specter and Colin Powell we are coming with them to the promised land.
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"We can get women, we can get everybody with a set of core principles that we do not abandon that benefit everybody, regardless the damned color of their skin or their gender!" ~ Rush Limbaugh on conservatism
Hey RF... ROFLMAO! That
May 11, 2009 - 00:33 ET by bigtimerHey RF...
ROFLMAO!
That was so rich....thank you ...this topped off my night!
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Interesting, Rush Fan
May 11, 2009 - 00:38 ET by BlondeI suspect a few years in the work force, without mommy and daddy to provide for all their wants, while struggling to provide for their own needs, will temper the millenials' love of liberalism.
Funny, that. I don't know very many people under the age of 26 that make much more than minimum wage....so sorry if I have to laugh at the LAT....until the millenials gain some economic clout....they're just along for the ride.
I hope he fails, too.
Where to find wisdom? DailyKos poll respondents!
May 11, 2009 - 03:21 ET by KC MulvilleAmazingly, the people who read the DailyKos have an unfavorable view of Republicans. Wow!
No liberal bias in that poll, I'll bet you ...
Speaking of Leftist Publications
May 11, 2009 - 00:49 ET by gopcongressIn Britain, the Evening Weekly Standard has just offered the biggest mea culpa I've ever seen. They are literally saying "I'm sorry" over the next few weeks for moving TO THE RIGHT, and they will "make amends" and move back to the left.
(Of course, being to "the right" in Britain is somewhat between Joe Lieberman and Jane Harmon in the first place, but I digress.)
I'm sure that the purchase by the Russian tycoon and former KGB agent (translation: Russian Mafia) Alexander Lebedev had something to do with this remorseful attitude.
Perfect article for a Newsbusters exclusive... go to it, MRC!
http://blogs.reuters...
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Good thing it was on MSNBC
May 11, 2009 - 01:05 ET by IamTinmanChris Mathews won't even watch KO's show anymore!
Strangely, these words from
May 11, 2009 - 04:10 ET by Vivaldi5Strangely, these words from "Bathtub Boy" appropriately sum up my feelings:
That's a very good summary of Keith Olbermann. The man is a boil on the backside of the behemoth that is the media, inconsequential as a (ha ha) "journalist." But that he gets anyone apart from tin-foil-hat types to appear on his show and to give him even sham credibility (including people from Newsweek and our own president) is a national disgrace.
Hold on ...
May 11, 2009 - 08:34 ET by EllisWyattI hate to have to agree with either of these guys, but their point is valid. What he says about being a limited government party while simultaneously supporting so much intervention in people lives is basically the same complaint that I had with the GOP during the Bush Administration. If a viable party comes along that is basically Libertarian without the extreme positions on immigration and foreign policy, I would probably support it.
I favor a strong military, but the idea that there are no wasteful practices going on in the DOD is ridiculous. You might want to read "Boyd: The Fighter Pilot Who Changed the Art of War" when you have a chance. His battles with the Pentagon over the F-16 and the F-15 clearly show the corruption running rampant in our weapons procurement proceedures. Something needs to be done about this.
On issues like gay marriage, you have me when you fight against the issue being decided by the courts. But you lose me when you fight against any legal recognition of a gay relationship.
People like me need to see that the GOP is more willing to accomodate the views of the libertarian wing of the party. I held my nose and voted for McCain, but I can only hold my nose for so long.
If you're not outraged at the media, you haven't been paying attention.
Tailgunner
May 11, 2009 - 10:26 ET by cvgbuckeyeSome time back, an anonymous source from NBC told me that in the past 2 years or so, either Olbermann or NBC or some other party on his behalf, had filed over 1200 police reports regarding perceived threats to him by one method or another.
She also said that several of the particular authorities had expressed dismay to NBC regarding gross over-reactions by Olbermann and his representatives and had all but refused to accept further personal complaints unless made through a third party personal security firm, since over the last 6 months, the complaints from Olbermann had spiked to 3 or 4 fold.
To his/her knowledge, there have been only 2 arrests with NO charges being filed by any governing authorities.
I am not certain of the reliability of the information but it would certainly be interesting to see what could be gleaned from a possible freedom of information request, filed against GE since he would likely be considered an agent of their organization.
KO's clinically insane. I've said it before.
May 11, 2009 - 12:15 ET by TailgunnerNOLO PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
wolff
May 11, 2009 - 12:59 ET by east tennessee johnI'm just overwhelmed by KOthe JO and little howlin'wolff express their concerns over the demise of the Republican Party, as if they really gave a shit. With all KO's and little howlin's reference to teabagging, you think they might have brewed a pot , toigether, offstage?\I wonder, who provided the sugar, and who provided the cream?
The Fact
May 11, 2009 - 14:52 ET by Ozark_SunshineThe fact he is with Newsweek shows that Wolffe is an idiot, but let me further expound. In the 1980s I went from being a disillusioned Democrat under Carter to truly looking at what he and the Democratic Party stood for and figured out I didn't want to spend my life as a whining bum. I served in the Army and was discharged after 7 years as a disabled veteran. Still not wanting to be a feminized leach, I went and got myself educated and got a good job in the defense industry, a NON-UNION job. Even though union idiots made more than I did, I worked hard, even getting some patents along the way, I expected nothing from anyone but myself. In the late 1990s, I went to work in the telecomm industry. Now I make more than the lazy union hacks and most Democrats and it was because I didn't think I was owed anything or due seniority, it was because I worked and perservered. I am an Independent voter, now because I vote for whomever represents my character and belief systems most. I have not voted for a baby killing, gay loving, Christain hating, socialist, womb to tomb, union supporting Democrat in over 10 years because they are so out of touch with America just like Wolffe is. I am a person who mostly supports the Republican Party, unless like the RINOS and Bush, they start growing government and spending what they don't have. I am a man who works for a living, where Wolffe is a leach who sits around expecting things be given to him. His job is to think up lies and get people to buy them so they will support Obama and the Socialist/Democratic Party. Even with the print media in trouble, they show their true allegiance and colors by running to Congress and Obama to start the conversation to bail them out. Why, because Republicans, Independents, Conservatives, all people of work ethics and character, see right through them and are no longer buying their manure. So Wolffe, as long as Obama is in Office, which will only be one term, and the Congress stays Democratic, which is 18 months, you have a job. But I look forward to seeing your name on Obama's unemployment list in several years.