On Thursday’s Countdown show, Michael Musto of the Village Voice made an appearance to help MSNBC host Keith Olbermann lambast Miss California, Carrie Prejean, because of her expression of opposition to same-sex marriage. After Olbermann set up the segment by revealing that Prejean had received breast implants paid for by the Miss California organization, Musto made a number of crude sexual jokes, and even cracked that she was like a "Klaus Barbie Doll," presumably a reference to Nazi war criminal Klaus Barbie, who was a Gestapo officer responsible for thousands of deaths during World War II.
Referring to the Miss California organization, Musto cracked: "They also paid for Carrie to cut off her penis, and sand her Adam`s Apple and get a head to toe waxing. I know for a fact that Carrie Prejean was Harry Prejean, a homophobic man, who liked marriage so much, he did it three times. Now he`s a babe who needs a brain implant. Maybe they could inject some fat from her butt. Oh, they have?
After introducing the segment informing viewers of Prejean’s breast implants, Olbermann began his discussion with Musto, "Miss California is opposed to same-sex marriage, which is at least marriage between two human beings, but she has fully endorsed now marriage between a man and a woman who's partially made out of plastic," prompting Musto to respond: "Well, she's dumb and twisted. She`s sort of like a human Klaus Barbie Doll."
Musto soon added: "This is the kind of girl who sits on the TV and watches the sofa. You know, she thinks innuendo is an Italian suppository."
Olbermann further slammed Prejean’s intelligence as he called her a "fake boob," and claimed that she makes Perez Hilton look like an "intellectual titan": "Perez Hilton looks like an intellectual titan and some sort of civil rights leader. And the new poster girl against same-sex marriage is not just a boob, but a fake boob. This is a real win for this cause, is it not?"
Musto soon charged that the matter was trivial compared to President Bush committing "international war crimes": "I`d say dethrone her, but we couldn`t even get rid of Bush, couldn`t impeach him for international war crimes. We're supposed to get rid of some beauty contestant for having falsies and an opinion? Let her deflate, as it were, and just let her keep going, and, eventually, she`ll just be looking for a husband who wants the only virgin in the world with breast implants."
Musto then added to the sexual crudeness: "This has escalated to a public shaving. I mean, and what Moakler has left out, Keith, is that they also paid for Carrie to cut off her penis, and sand her Adam`s Apple and get a head to toe waxing. I know for a fact that Carrie Prejean was Harry Prejean, a homophobic man, who liked marriage so much, he did it three times. Now he`s a babe who needs a brain implant. Maybe they could inject some fat from her butt. Oh, they have?"
Below is a complete transcript of the segment from the Thursday, April 30, Countdown show on MSNBC:
KEITH OLBERMANN: After going rogue at the Miss USA Pageant, Miss California Carrie Prejean was enjoying her new title as self-anointed champion of opposite marriage. Pageant officials, though, are now retaliating. They`ve outed her for having breast implants. Our number one story, Miss California now being accused of using performance enhancers. The good news is this increases her chances of dating Alex Rodriguez some day. The Miss California organization`s co-executive director Shanna Moakler claiming that not only did Miss Prejean get breast implants, but that the Miss California Organization paid for them. "Breast implants in pageants is not a rarity. It`s very common. I don`t personally have them," she said, "but, you know, they are."
Adding a little saline to that wound, Miss California USA pageant officials also released this statement, "We are deeply saddened Carrie Prejean has forgotten her platform of the Special Olympics, her commitment to all Californians, and solidified her legacy as one that goes beyond the right to voice her beliefs, and instead reveals her opportunistic agenda." Today, Miss Prejean, head held high, while channeling her inner and partly silicone Anita Bryant, joining forces with the National Organization for Marriage`s campaign against same sex marriage. After being praised for choosing truth over a tiara, Miss Prejean was asked about the implant imbroglio.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How do you respond to the personal attacks that the Miss California Organization is going against you, I mean, going on Access Hollywood and talking about, you know, breast implants?
CARRIE PREJEAN, MISS CALIFORNIA: I have no comment for that. Next question?
OLBERMANN: Looking for a cue card? Joining me now, columnist for the Village Voice, and author of La Dolce Musto, Michael Musto. Good evening, Michael.
MICHAEL MUSTO, THE VILLAGE VOICE: Next question?
OLBERMANN: So, yeah, no, all I said was good evening.
MUSTO: Oh, okay.
OLBERMANN: Yeah. There it is here, Miss California is opposed to same-sex marriage, which is at least marriage between two human beings, but she has fully endorsed now marriage between a man and a woman who’s partially made out of plastic.
MUSTO: Well, she’s dumb and twisted. She`s sort of like a human Klaus Barbie Doll. I mean, you tell Perez Hilton you’re against gay marriage. That`s like telling Simon Cowell you`re against screeching a show tune. This is the kind of girl who sits on the TV and watches the sofa. You know, she thinks innuendo is a Italian suppository. Can I keep going? On the pageants now, they really should have easier questions, like, "What’s your middle name?" Or, "What show was Seinfeld on?" I mean, this girl is a ding dong. I didn`t even like her earrings.
OLBERMANN: The cruelest cut of all. The outcomes here, too. Perez Hilton looks like an intellectual titan and some sort of civil rights leader. And the new poster girl against same-sex marriage is not just a boob, but a fake boob. This is a real win for this cause, is it not?
MUSTO: Well, Perez is the new me. Let`s leave him alone. And using the C word is something I would do. But yeah, Carrie Prejean, however you say it, she’s getting something off her chest. But what she really needs to get off is the price tag there, you know. And in the meantime, she`s ratcheting up so much sympathy for the gay movement, she might as well be a paid spokesmodel for them. You know, I`d say dethrone her, but we couldn`t even get rid of Bush, couldn`t impeach him for international war crimes. We’re supposed to get rid of some beauty contestant for having falsies and an opinion? Let her deflate, as it were, and just let her keep going, and, eventually, she`ll just be looking for a husband who wants the only virgin in the world with breast implants.
OLBERMANN: Now, the moral in this is what, never cross a beauty pageant official who knows you’ve had implants?
MUSTO: Yes, exactly, that`s it. This has escalated to a public shaving. I mean, and what Moakler has left out, Keith, is that they also paid for Carrie to cut off her penis, and sand her Adam`s Apple and get a head to toe waxing. I know for a fact that Carrie Prejean was Harry Prejean, a homophobic man, who liked marriage so much, he did it three times. Now he`s a babe who needs a brain implant. Maybe they could inject some fat from her butt. Oh, they have?
OLBERMANN: Kind of lost in this, Michael, this claim by Shanna Moakler, who herself was Miss USA, was in Playboy, that implants are commonplace in pageants. I mean, Congress went crazy over artificial performance enhancements in baseball. Should there not be congressional hearings into this, as well?
MUSTO: Wait, you are telling me a lot of beauty contestants are fake? Oh, next, you`re going to tell me their personalities are artificial, too. But yes, I do think there should be congressional hearings into this. Congress should wash their hands with Purell, get together in a big enclosed room, and decide how all of this is like baseball. Though when I look at Carrie Prejean, I think of basketball, don`t you?
OLBERMANN: Yeah, maybe, maybe softball. You said personality, personality. There’s no personality in this, is there, in these pageants?
MUSTO: No, I said a brain implant. There`s no talent. There`s no personality. There`s just parading down the runway like a ding dong, trying to cure cancer and find the right handbag to match her navel. It`s so obsolete, it has to be stopped. But I watch it every year.
OLBERMANN: Well, there it is, your guilty pleasure. The one and only Michael Musto of the Village Voice. As always, good to talk to you, Michael.
MUSTO: Thank you.
—Brad Wilmouth is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.



















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Yet They Want To Censure Us?
May 6, 2009 - 10:53 ET by GeneralAlWhat a combo, a Wind Bag and a Fag Bag insulting a young lady because she honestly answers a flaming liberal's provacative question! We need to censure these queers and their enablers like OldBlowHardMan!
They obviously have
May 6, 2009 - 11:54 ET by mattmThey obviously have "issues" in dealing with women.
Misogynists....
May 6, 2009 - 18:26 ET by adamsmithOlbermann often says things or agrees to things that are pretty misogynistic. Bill Maher is the undisputed King though. That mental midget can't get through one of his shows without saying something misogynistic and racist. He thinks he's one of the "brothers" since last I heard he's got a black girl friend...When he says something completely over the line it's always, "Come on, I'm only kidding". If it wouldn't work for Rush, it shouldn't be okay for these weasels either.....
Olbie-wannabe-Kenobi along with
May 6, 2009 - 22:53 ET by klchadwickother morons at pMSNBC have been hitting hard in recent days. Here's a segment from the mentioned video and a couple that are just as if not more detestable than the last...all made this week by those conservative woman fearing a**holes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRio2OuVOFo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow10pEzF0a8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkbFscAwQ1I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvW7ubwnbz0
http://www.youtube.com/user/rghrdrgirl
http://politicaldessert.wordpress.com
brings us back to sixth
May 6, 2009 - 21:48 ET by TruthMongerbrings us back to sixth grade "special ed class" every day
government is the communists capitalism
How is this jackass still on the air?
May 6, 2009 - 11:01 ET by Defector01And his guest, calling her a man. Gee didn't they do the same to Ann Coulter? And considering some of the fossilized specimens in the liberal pantheon of beautiful women, I guess that's a compliment.
Still how pathetic, how low, how unbelieveably disgusting can one human being be? Olbermann would make a great Obama Goebbles
I have only ever made one prayer to God, a very short one: O Lord, make my enemies ridiculous. And God granted it - Voltaire
ridiculous and disgusting is a compliment for those idiots
May 6, 2009 - 16:46 ET by Dont_Like_TheBluesI think that Mr."musty" Musto is the original model for the old Saturday Night live character "Pat" the androgynous guy/girl from the 90s. After several years of pathetic comedy they never did figure out if she was a he or he was a she.
I have no idea why people like musty feel the need to dish out their "How dare you be disgusted by sodomy..." rant. I don't care what anyone does in private. It doesn't mean that I have to agree with him 100% or be labeled by these dirtbags and their enablers.
simple - he works for
May 6, 2009 - 21:50 ET by TruthMongersimple - he works for jackasses
government is the communists capitalism
The folks at MSNBC show all
May 6, 2009 - 11:04 ET by marvlThe folks at MSNBC show all the tact and maturity of your average 3rd grader. What's worse is that the ties there let this go on.
It's MSNBC's "Comedy Tonight"
May 6, 2009 - 11:46 ET by kgIt's MSNBC's "Comedy Tonight"
Starring...Keith Olbermann....and Rachel Maddow.....with Chris Matthews...and as a special treat...David Shusterrr
All staring tonight on "MSNBC's Comedy Tonight"!
"DumbAssity of Dope"
Bye, bye Miss American Pie
May 6, 2009 - 12:42 ET by QueenMumSo it now looks like it's possible Ms. Prejean will lose her Miss
California title. Know what? It might be the best thing that could
happen to her. She's a smart and talented individual. Lots of
opportunities for her outside the world of beauty pageants.
Saw an interview with the runner-up. If that's the best the Miss
Universe franchise can come up with, Prejean should voluntarily give up
her crown just to prove how worthless it really is.
Edited to add: BTW, could anyone tell if these two (Olbie & Musty) were engaged in a certain activity (which shall remain nameless) while they were encouraging each other.
Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand
She's a smart and talented
May 6, 2009 - 13:12 ET by JasonCShe's a smart and talented individual.
May I ask what you're basing this on?
The judges who crowned
May 6, 2009 - 13:13 ET by JimboThe judges who crowned her???
What are you basing your debunking of the idea on? Her beliefs in marriage?
I'm not "debunking" it.
May 6, 2009 - 13:39 ET by JasonCI'm not "debunking" it. I'm asking where the idea that she's smart and talented is coming from here. Just because she's the object of a "liberal media bias" firestorm doesn't automatically imbue her with positive qualities. And sorry, but being runner-up in a beauty pageant just doesn't do much to convince me that she possesses these attributes.
As for the essentially contradictory answer she gave to the gay marriage question, I'll let that go since the question itself was mean-spirited and unfair, and surely her gut reaction was to try to give as neutral a response as possible.
So I'm not trying to say she isn't smart and talented; just curious as to how the claim that she is has arisen.
Similar.....
May 6, 2009 - 18:38 ET by adamsmithThe same way the left has come up with "President Obama is the smartest President of all time." I love that one. Where's the proof? Where are his records of grades, papers, et al...? Seems to me he's pretty useless without that teleprompter. All the crap they gave to George Bush, if you ask me he gave a better speech, and I trusted him when he said he spent all of his time thinking how to better protect the American people. With Obama I'm looking for code words to some enemy.....
tell jasonc i base it on the
May 6, 2009 - 21:53 ET by TruthMongertell jasonc i base it on the left's disdain for smart and talented people
When Musto speaks
May 6, 2009 - 11:06 ET by Hanoverfistthe studio smells like Vaseline.
Ah, responding to an
May 6, 2009 - 11:10 ET by TheGingermanAh, responding to an article decrying the use of crude humor WITH crude humor.
Classic.
Meh, he's wrong anyway
May 6, 2009 - 11:14 ET by RESTLESS 1When Musto burps, the studio smell like penis. Olbernotaman too.
"This liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
How's that working out for
May 6, 2009 - 11:16 ET by TheGingermanHow's that working out for you?
What?
Being clever.
Thanks
May 6, 2009 - 11:21 ET by RESTLESS 1That was a pretty funny line.
Care to condemn Olbermann and Musto now?
"This liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Restless,I've notices
May 6, 2009 - 11:37 ET by Chris NormanRestless,
I've noticed that our resident trolls never comment on the main story. They cruise through this section and make what they think are snarky criticisms on our comments - on things that have nothing to do with main idea of the original post.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Chris
May 6, 2009 - 11:48 ET by RESTLESS 1I almost feel sorry for them, (actually, not in the least). They either must agree that Prejean deserves what she is getting, which would mean they would have to admit that their messiah the 0 should be pilloried as well, or they must admit that the 0, and Ms. Prejean are correct in their opinions, and that the gay mafia should give up the quest.
Given their options, I see why they avoid commenting directly on the article.
I find their whole quandry quite amusing.
"This liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Here's what I've noticed:
May 6, 2009 - 23:37 ET by JerHere's what I've noticed: There's been considerably more condemnation by NB liberals of outrageous and insensitive remarks uttered by those on the left than has been forthcoming from the site's conservatives regarding similar outrages of the right.
Jer
I noticed this trend
May 6, 2009 - 11:47 ET by katainkentrather than PM the author to resolve it and then the admin if they can't - they post to the offending post and pin it down so the author can't edit it anyway.
Hold on ‘cause the world will turn if you're ready or not ~ KT Tunstall
katainkent
May 6, 2009 - 11:52 ET by RESTLESS 1No worries. I had no intentions of editing the offending post. It was meant to offend. Unfortunately, some innocent bystanders may be hit by shrapnel.
(Actually, I thought I kept it quite tame, considering the standard set forth by musto and olbermann.)
"This liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
a got a joke for this
May 6, 2009 - 21:57 ET by TruthMongera got a joke for this "gingerman"
gingerman walks into a gay bar dressed as a beauty pageant contestant and...
HAHAHAHA...
government is the communists capitalism
Musto, much like The Dirty
May 6, 2009 - 11:52 ET by TheGingermanMusto, much like The Dirty blogger make a living off being offensive.
People like you merely line their pockets. Continue to acknowledge their obnoxious behavior, and they'll continue to get the exposure they so desperately crave.
I don't watch junk like this, so I don't feel the need to indulge in conversation about it.
I just thought it was funny that someone woud reply to an article complaining about a dirty conversation with a dirty joke.
That's all.
That's no excuse Ginger
May 6, 2009 - 12:10 ET by RESTLESS 1You are now aware of the comments, yet choose to remain silent regarding the behavior of the left. Not that I'm shocked by that.
"This liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Rest, I've repeatedly
May 6, 2009 - 12:18 ET by TheGingermanRest,
I've repeatedly said that the comments of Hilton et al were offensive and wrong. Not sure what you're talking about. I haven't remained silent at all. I've condemned them explicitly, I just don't see any need to comment on this story at the moment.
It's obviously wrong, offensive, and disturbing. What else is there to discuss?
As for your attempts to paint the entire left as hateful based on the comments of a handful of people who make a career off being offensive, I'm sorry if I can't agree.
What your doing with your left argument is the same thing as claiming a KKK member who voted for Bush represents the right.
Gingy?
May 6, 2009 - 12:21 ET by JimboDo you like bush?
Gingerman
May 6, 2009 - 12:32 ET by RESTLESS 1Does not allowing this musto windbag a platform on a supposedly respected, prime time cable news show confer some amount of legitimacy to his comments?
C'mon, olbermann is the BOR of the left, except I highly doubt BOR would allow a guest on his show to stoop to this type of bile. Maybe that explains the ratings.
"This liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Rest, It's a hot topic.
May 6, 2009 - 12:36 ET by TheGingermanRest,
It's a hot topic. Olbermann got what he wanted. People talking about his show, which isn't news, but rather commentary.
BOR has routinely had guests with this level of insanity and hostility on his show. BOR and Olby want viewers and press and money. That's it.
I don't like it, but I understand it.
Take Your Pick Gingy
May 6, 2009 - 12:43 ET by JimboBOR and Olberman cannot be compared. Doing so is either disingenuous or foolish. Take your pick.
"BOR has routinely had
May 6, 2009 - 12:57 ET by RESTLESS 1"BOR has routinely had guests with this level of insanity and hostility on his show."
Really? Back it up.
(BTW, don't get caught up in semantics. Fine, it is commentary, on the NEWS.)
"This liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Rest, I suppose you are
May 6, 2009 - 13:04 ET by TheGingermanRest,
I suppose you are correct in that it's generally not BOR's guests that say insane things, it's him. Not a great example on my part.
Better examples would be Glenn Beck or Scarborough.
As for you BTW, it's not just semantics. Oblermann is an entertainment show revolving around the news. That doesn't make it news and you shouldn't expect it to have the same level of integrity or objectivity that you would expect from a strict news show.
BULL
May 6, 2009 - 13:09 ET by JimboNice back peddle, but BULL just the same.
Bill O’Reilly, while he can be very opinionated and can become heated with some guests, he NEVER resorts to making fun of people’s bodies to make his point, and NEVER resorts to vulgarities to make his points. You can agree with O’ Reilly or not, but he makes well thought out FACT based arguments.
And if you disagree with me, provide PROOF.
Really
May 6, 2009 - 13:12 ET by RESTLESS 1When has BOR said that a woman is really a man? When has he said that a pageant paid for a woman's penis to be cut off? Links please.
As for the strict news shows, I see no objectivity there either. Certainly no integrity. You can understand why I may not be able to discern katie from obermann, content wise.
"This liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
In February he called Helen
May 6, 2009 - 13:17 ET by TheGingermanIn February he called Helen Thomas a "wicked witch"
Petty & hateful.
So there's one off the top of my head.
Ah, let's not forget the
May 6, 2009 - 13:22 ET by TheGingermanAh, let's not forget the time he called a girl who was raped and murdered 'moronic' for her choice of attire.
Or the time he told a
May 6, 2009 - 13:24 ET by TheGingermanOr the time he told a Jewish caller that he should go back to Israel if he didn't like Christmas in schools in America.
I mean, we could play this game all day.
No idea what a Christmas
May 6, 2009 - 13:31 ET by JimboNo idea what a Christmas School is, but as far as Im concerned, if someone who immigrated to this country doesnt like it, they should go back to where they came from.
Again, reading
May 6, 2009 - 13:44 ET by TheGingermanAgain, reading comprehension is lacking.
Christmas IN schools. Christmas IN schools.
And his comment was directed at a Jewish-American. Not a foreigner.
Jimbo, you are incredible in your utter lack of understanding.
It was Christmas Schools.
May 6, 2009 - 13:56 ET by JimboIt was Christmas Schools. I know it becasue I read it 3 times to be sure how foolish it was. Nice job of editing before I responded. Oldest troll trick in the book.
Wrong Jimbo. It wasn't
May 6, 2009 - 14:03 ET by TheGingermanWrong Jimbo.
It wasn't edited. At all.
Nice try though.
You can't edit a post after
May 6, 2009 - 14:04 ET by TheGingermanYou can't edit a post after it's been responded to.
Ha. You just can't read.
Talk about a lack of
May 6, 2009 - 14:15 ET by JimboTalk about a lack of reading comprehension.
OK – you win.
You bored me into submission
Ha read it 3 times and
May 6, 2009 - 15:00 ET by TheGingermanHa read it 3 times and still couldn't understand.
So great.
You had 7 minutes to edit.
May 6, 2009 - 16:03 ET by RESTLESS 1You saying you couldn't have edited your response in seven minutes?
"This liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Restless~
May 6, 2009 - 16:08 ET by Georgia GirlThat's true -- seven minutes.
True Restless... But I
May 6, 2009 - 16:18 ET by JerTrue Restless...
But I think it far more likely that Jimbo misread the post than Gingerbread flat-out lied about correcting what would have been, in essence, a trivial typo.
Plus, there is always the possibility that others within that seven minutes would have noticed his initial "unedited" post and caught him in the lie.
The nod goes to Gingerman.
Jer
Classic
May 6, 2009 - 18:05 ET by JimboClassic.
Here I come to save the day!!!! Mighty Troll is here to stay!!!
Sorry, Jimbo.... But Ed
May 6, 2009 - 18:40 ET by JerSorry, Jimbo....
But Ed has a nice parting gift for you. Thanks for playing.
Jer
None of these rise to the vitriol
May 6, 2009 - 13:38 ET by RESTLESS 1and rudeness displayed by musto and olbermann. Not even close.
"This liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Rest, The rape comment
May 6, 2009 - 13:42 ET by TheGingermanRest,
The rape comment certainly does, as does the Jewish comment (I'll give you that Helen Thomas is a bit lighter) and those are only a few that come to mind
My point is simple and validated with these comments. These prime time talking head guys are paid to be inflammatory. This is their business.
I don't like it, but I'm not going to complain about it either. I know it for what it is.
I repeat - Bill O’Reilly,
May 6, 2009 - 13:45 ET by JimboI repeat -
Bill O’Reilly, while he can be very opinionated and can become heated with some guests, he NEVER resorts to making fun of people’s bodies to make his point, and NEVER resorts to vulgarities to make his points. You can agree with O’ Reilly or not, but he makes well thought out FACT based arguments.
I don't recall this one,
May 6, 2009 - 13:40 ET by JimboI don't recall this one, but I'm sure its being taken out of context.
now
May 6, 2009 - 13:42 ET by katainkentI don't like BOR - in fact I think he is a bona fide a** with an ego the size of a small moon. I simply don't understand his popularity. I've watched his show perhaps 3 times. His insensitivity toward this woman's family is unconscionable. However, I don't like inaccuracies to go without being contested.
Here is the complete quote.
The entire show is archived here. The piece in question is on the latter part of the tape.
Hold on ‘cause the world will turn if you're ready or not ~ KT Tunstall
How was I inaccurate? Did
May 6, 2009 - 13:49 ET by TheGingermanHow was I inaccurate?
Did he not call a rape victim moronic? Did he not try to blame her for getting raped?
By posting the entire quote you simply reinforce my example. So, thanks.
Come On Gingy
May 6, 2009 - 13:54 ET by JimboYou don't think its moronic for a girl to be blind drunk, alone and hitchiking on the West Side Highway in NY at 2AM?
Im a guy and would have second thoughts of walking along some parts of the West Side Highway sober at 2PM!
you're assertion
May 6, 2009 - 14:03 ET by katainkentwas that BOR said she was moronic for wearing her clothes the way she did. He was saying she was moronic for being drunk out of her mind and then separating from her friend.
My sister in law was killed hitchhiking. She was neither drunk nor dressed provocatively. She was simply by herself on a barren stretch of road in the middle of the desert. I can sympathize with people who say BOR was implying blame on her. He chose horribly when trying to make his point for the show. I am very sorry for her family's loss. No woman (or man for that matter) can be held accountable for an attackers decision to commit a crime. However there are intelligent things a woman can do to avoid trouble without letting it run her life.
I would stipulate these women did not make intelligent choices. None of which pertains at all to what they were wearing.
Hold on ‘cause the world will turn if you're ready or not ~ KT Tunstall
He called a rape victim
May 6, 2009 - 14:07 ET by TheGingermanHe called a rape victim moronic and then insinuated that her choice of clothing led to her rape.
Defend that comment all you want. For someone that pretends to not like BOR you're certainly trying hard to cover for his disgraceful comments.
The fact that the girl might have made some bad choices does not warrant his sick comments.
which I *said*
May 6, 2009 - 14:09 ET by katainkentdon't accuse people of not fully reading your statements and then turn around and do the same thing.
Hold on ‘cause the world will turn if you're ready or not ~ KT Tunstall
No you didn't. You defend
May 6, 2009 - 14:12 ET by TheGingermanNo you didn't. You defend his comment and then say he chose horribly, but you still defend his comments.
ok what does this mean to you
May 6, 2009 - 14:13 ET by katainkent"I can sympathize with people who say BOR was implying blame on her."
Hold on ‘cause the world will turn if you're ready or not ~ KT Tunstall
Maybe its just me, but I
May 6, 2009 - 13:49 ET by JimboMaybe its just me, but I dont see the problem with what he said. ESPECIALLY when part of a discussing comparing BO to Olberman.
For which he appologized
May 6, 2009 - 13:30 ET by JimboFor which he appologized the next day. When did Oby ever apologize for anything?
You're insane even remotely trying to compare BOR to KO
May 6, 2009 - 15:23 ET by Lord ErondFirst, Bill has the opposite viewpoint on his show FREQUENTLY. Olbergoebbels...never
Second, Bill strives to truly be fair, points out when repubs are getting too partisan and doesn't call Obama a fascist. Olbergoebbels...well, you know the answer to this
Third, Olbergoebbels doesn't have one TENTH the talent that Bill O'Reilly has. Is it any wonder that Bill's ratings are consistently equal to TWO major networks?
The person who said that KO is the BOR of the left should have their tongue taken out and burnt in acid so it can be never used again for such vulgarity.
"They'll know we were right in the end"
-Harry Potter, The Order of the Phoenix-
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May 6, 2009 - 11:10 ET by someloudthunderDid everyone miss the part where she said she's glad to live in a country where you can choose to get married traditionally or alternatively but she herself did not support gay marriage?
Is the media that blind?
May I make one small
May 6, 2009 - 11:20 ET by JasonCMay I make one small adjustment here:
Did everyone miss the part where she said she's glad to live in a
country where [if you happen to live in one of four states that allow the latter] you can choose to get married traditionally or
alternatively but she herself did not support gay marriage?
My only quibble with Miss California is the inaccuracy of her answer. But that's not really important. She should certainly not be criticized for giving an honest (if factually flawed) response to a damned-if-you-do-damned-if-you-don't question. I mean aren't pageant contestants just supposed to be asked what they think the best thing is about rainbows or something?
That said, I think Perez Hilton is a sleaze artists of the highest order who put the poor girl in a no-win situation and is now doing irreparable damage to the important cause of gay rights by making mainstream America think he represents all homosexuals (I've hear the charming term "gay mafia" tossed around NB, for instance).
JC, it is strange, isn't
May 6, 2009 - 12:02 ET by JerryJC, it is strange, isn't it? Miss California gets asked politically hot questions while Obama gets asked beauty pageant questions: "What do you find enchanting...."
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
Obama has been asked some
May 6, 2009 - 13:41 ET by JasonCObama has been asked some asinine questions, as has any major political figure. But I think most conservatives are exaggerating when they suggest that he hasn't been given challenging and hot-button questions as well.
JasonC,
May 6, 2009 - 13:55 ET by R D HelmThat is crap, and you know it.
The toughest question Obama has faced to date was posed to him by Joe the Plumber, and look what the left is trying to do to him for having asked it.
After all, they aren't the least bit happy that Obama's bumbling answer to Joe's question proved him to be the statist many of us have known him to be since he first announced his intention to run for POTUS.
As for the MSM, all they do is sit around and limp-wristedly toss Nerf balls his way.
They haven't come anywhere near asking him a tough question
-Dave
The statists aren't coming, they are already here.
Enchanting, Dave.
May 6, 2009 - 14:01 ET by BlondeYou know when that idiot Gibbsy rates the press' performance an A+ that the fix is in.
Sheesh.
Hardest interview the Bamster ever had was w/BOR.....and BOR was incredibly kind to him.
I hope he fails, too.
Verbatim from Obama's first
May 6, 2009 - 14:29 ET by JasonCVerbatim from Obama's first two press conferences:
In your opening remarks, you talked about that if your plan works the
way you want it to work, it's going to increase consumer spending. But
isn't consumer spending or overspending how we got into this mess?
You have often said that bipartisanship is extraordinarily important
overall, and in the stimulus package. But now when we ask your advisors
about the lack of bipartisanship so far -- zero votes in the House,
three in the Senate -- they say, well, it's not the number of votes
that matters, it's the number of jobs that will be created. Is that a
sign that you are moving away, your White House is moving away from
this emphasis on bipartisanship?
Given the problems that the financial bailout program has had so far --
banks not wanting to talk about how they're spending the money, the AIG
bonuses that you mentioned -- why do you think the public should sign
on for another new sweeping authority for the government to take over
companies, essentially?
Under your budget, the debt will increase $7 trillion over the next 10
years. The Congressional Budget Office says $9.3 trillion. And today on
Capitol Hill, some Republicans called your budget, with all the
spending on health care, education and environment, the most
irresponsible budget in American history. Isn't that kind of debt exactly what you were talking about when you said "passing on our problems to the next generation"?
Yup, they're playing whiffle ball...
Ha. Homerun Jason. I
May 6, 2009 - 14:35 ET by TheGingermanHa.
Homerun Jason.
I feel like certain claims have just been repeated her ad nauseum to the point that people actually believe them without thinking.
Great post.
Thanks. And it's not like
May 6, 2009 - 14:38 ET by JasonCThanks. And it's not like these were difficult to find. They're from widely broadcast press conferences, the transcripts of which are widely available. Much easier, apparently, to cling to the preconception that Joe the Plumber is the only one who's ever asked the president a pressing question.
I wonder if you'll get a
May 6, 2009 - 14:46 ET by TheGingermanI wonder if you'll get a reply. My guess would be no.
I really can't understand where this idea that Obama has had a free pass in his first 100 days originated. It's hardly the case as your examples clearly illustrate.
The whole Prejean (and prior that Joe the Plumber) fiasco just shows how desperate the hardcore right is for any sort of voice. Like a ship without a captain, they are painfully lost at sea.
It's win-win. If anyone
May 6, 2009 - 15:07 ET by JasonCIt's win-win. If anyone tries to discredit this it will be an obvious case of moving the rhetorical goalposts. If no one responds, I win.
Now post his answers, and
May 6, 2009 - 15:05 ET by HockeyKidNow post his answers, and the follow-up questions. Fact is, he's never been pressed.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Ohhh, now we're talking
May 6, 2009 - 15:10 ET by JasonCOhhh, now we're talking about follow-up questions, and it's not whether he's been asked challenging questions initially but whether he's been 'pressed' on his reply.
See what I mean about moving the goalposts?
Jason, Win-win it was!
May 6, 2009 - 15:14 ET by TheGingermanJason,
Win-win it was!
I thought the debate was over the lack of tough questions for Obama. Didn't realize we were talking about his answers too.
Where did Blonde and R D go? I'm interested to see how they respond.
Blonde has vowed never to
May 6, 2009 - 15:21 ET by JasonCBlonde has vowed never to reply to me again. Oh well.
I've seen her issue that
May 6, 2009 - 15:26 ET by TheGingermanI've seen her issue that warning to posters on a daily basis.
No big deal. How many times could someone tell you she needs a better class of troll anyways?
An example of a tough
May 6, 2009 - 14:00 ET by JimboAn example of a tough question would be –
“How do you intend to deal with the Chinese Navy the next time they provocatively sail within 30 yards of one of our warships?”
Or perhaps,
“Why did you lie to the American public about bowing to the Saudis?”
C'mon Bal
May 6, 2009 - 11:13 ET by RESTLESS 1Quick, get over here and justify this. After all, it is only because Prejean is not Ivy League educated and president that these poor misguided souls are espousing this trash, right?
"This liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Now now, Restless
May 6, 2009 - 11:57 ET by BlondeI can only handle so much silliness in 24 hours, and quite frankly, after last night's insanity, I'm done in.
I hope he fails, too.
Does Bal usually defend
May 6, 2009 - 13:48 ET by JasonCDoes Bal usually defend Olbermann?
Sorry if you missed it Jason
May 6, 2009 - 14:45 ET by RESTLESS 1But I am not going over last night's shenanigans again.
"This liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Jason, we had a spirited
May 6, 2009 - 15:04 ET by balboaJason, we had a spirited discussion last night about people's opinions.
Musto is being a bitchy gay snarkster here. It's pointless opinion because all he's doing is venting, so it's a worthless diatribe.
Sorry I missed that.
May 6, 2009 - 15:11 ET by JasonCSorry I missed that.
Yeah, it was...fun?
May 6, 2009 - 15:18 ET by balboaYeah, it was...fun?
idiots
May 6, 2009 - 11:13 ET by rowdygirlSo this is how the tolerant and peace loving left reacts when someone dares to disagree with them? This is shameful and disgusting. Are these people really supposed to be journalists? I can't believe how misogynistic the whole tirade is and how hateful they are being. How can you compare someone to Hitler because they believe in traditional marriage?
Is it any wonder that more and more people are returning to conservative values; when this is the example set forth ??
You can call me a right wing extremist anyday !
Did you ever hear such a
May 6, 2009 - 11:21 ET by SickofLibsDid you ever hear such a hate-oozing, vile diatribe as Musto spewed out (to Olbermann's delight)? There's no insult he didn't cover - her looks, sexuality, religion, morality.
"Can we not call them "homos" - it's disrespectful." - Stewie
You didn't get the memo?
May 6, 2009 - 15:07 ET by BeukeboomYou didn't get the memo? It's okay for liberals to be hateful, snide, rude, crude, obnoxious, etc. but not conservatives. It's rumored that the Obama administration may have this made into law once they have the 60-votes guaranteed in the Senate they so much desire.
Prepare for the inevitable
May 6, 2009 - 11:15 ET by SickofLibsPrepare for the inevitable deluge of Prejean-bashing trolls
3-2-1...
Welcome to the liberal utopia, realized
May 6, 2009 - 11:16 ET by Paul AtreidesWhere the President is untouchable: you will get called a hater, a nazi, and/or a racist.
Anything that disagrees with the liberal orthodoxy gets you labeled as mentally ill and a heretic.
Any difference of opinion will result in your being trashed and humiliated in front of the entire world.
WELCOME COMRADES! AREN'T YOU GLAD WE HAVE ALL OF THIS PEACE, LOVE, AND TOLERANCE?
I think this girl should get
May 6, 2009 - 11:18 ET by kangarooI think this girl should get herself a good lawyer and sue their slandering buts off,
Kangaroo
May 6, 2009 - 12:09 ET by cvgbuckeyeACTUALLY, I never cared much for this sueing business. I prefer much more up close and personal interaction.
Had I been present (and I wouldn't have) in the msnbc studio when this "freak of nature" was making these comments about this Christian young lady, I would have smashed all his teeth out of his repulsive face for him. That way, when he does what he likes to do best with his "fellow freaks of nature", he need only remove his dentures. Come to think of it, while I was there, I would likely have performed the same surgery for old Olbermann so he could interact the same with all his butties, I mean buddies (NAH, I REALLY DID MEAN BUTTIES).
She being a Christian young lady, I fancy her as a daughter and anyone speaking of MY daughter in this fashion would soon receive the shock of their lives; getting up off the floor while not remembering how they got there.
I believe that I am a growing Christian but I have yet to master that "turn the other cheek business".
seriously?
May 6, 2009 - 11:21 ET by katainkentis he trying to get himself fired? This crap is barely up to snuff for a 2am public cable tv show in the basement of a pair of cracked out teenagers with a hand-cam.
Hold on ‘cause the world will turn if you're ready or not ~ KT Tunstall
Aint gonna happen
May 6, 2009 - 11:28 ET by JimboFiring him would require NBC/GE to disagree with him. Ain't gonna happen.
I would think
May 6, 2009 - 12:06 ET by katainkentany sane minded woman would be offended at this discussion no matter what political belief they held. If their email boxes aren't full of flames then shame on women everywhere.
Hold on ‘cause the world will turn if you're ready or not ~ KT Tunstall
Burned at the Stake
May 6, 2009 - 12:16 ET by JimboLiberal women have no problem seeing conservative women being burned at the stake.
Hypocrisy, liberalism is thy
May 6, 2009 - 14:59 ET by BeukeboomHypocrisy, liberalism is thy name!
Expect Olbermann to get
May 6, 2009 - 15:04 ET by BeukeboomExpect Olbermann to get much, much worse...he figures he has carte blanche under the current GE management (GE owns NBC and subsequently MSNBC for those of you oout of the loop) and like a child with no proper supervision, he will push the envelope. I would not be surprised if he does or says something on-air that causes lawsuits to be filed against him, MSNBC and/or GE. And furthermore it wouldn't surprise me if such a lawsuit would be settled out of court (most likely) or brought to trial in which Olbermann and Co. would likely lose (and then drag out payments via multiple appeals).
In short, Olbermann figures he is untouchable, unstoppable, and uncorrectable while he is the "big dog" at MSNBC and he actually may be right on that. However, in the long run, I think his outrageousness will cost him viewership.
Beu... I hope you are
May 6, 2009 - 15:17 ET by bigtimerBeu...
I hope you are more than right.
Time will tell....Time is on our side in this case.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Hell, no wonder Musto is gay
May 6, 2009 - 11:42 ET by Lord ErondWith that face, I don't think you could pay woman to sleep with that lich
"They'll know we were right in the end"
-Harry Potter, The Order of the Phoenix-
The Village Voice...???
May 6, 2009 - 11:45 ET by gopcongressMainstream Media, meet thy maker.
_____________________
Moderate... Democrat... Liberal... Progressive... Socialist... Communist—The progression is clear as day.
All I can say
May 6, 2009 - 11:47 ET by Lord ErondIs that Olbermann and Musto should be on their KNEES, thanking GOD that we of the conservative archetype are not the violent gun toting lunatics he says we are. Because if we were, there's no doubt that the best forensics team would not be able to identify every one of the parts.
"They'll know we were right in the end"
-Harry Potter, The Order of the Phoenix-
MOVEMENT OVER
May 6, 2009 - 11:52 ET by JimboGiven the treatment Sara Palin and this beauty pageant contestant have received, and the lack of defense from feminists, I am officially declaring the femininist movement OVER.
From this day forward, it will be known as the LIBERAL FEMININIST MOVEMENT.
It's not feminism anymore.
May 6, 2009 - 14:58 ET by BeukeboomIt's not feminism anymore. That ended years ago. The NOW gang and all aligning themselves with them and similar groups are just another hateful liberal extremist group hiding under a misleading label.
Beu... Bingo...and they
May 6, 2009 - 15:04 ET by bigtimerBeu...
Bingo...and they always have been using that misleading label to acheive their agendas.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Sue the fag and the windbag
May 6, 2009 - 11:59 ET by Lord ErondSue Musto, Olbermann and MSNBC for slander. Free speech does not include yelling 'fire' in a crowded movie theatre.
"They'll know we were right in the end"
-Harry Potter, The Order of the Phoenix-
Pure Hate
May 6, 2009 - 12:00 ET by Lord-come-soon-pleaseCan Olbermann and Co. get any more sleazy? Honestly, how can this moron look at himself in a mirror? O'reilly had Miles McPherson on his show last night to address what's going on. Miles is a pastor in San Diego, and Carrie Prejean attends his church. He did a very nice job addressing the hate being spewed by the left, and what's really interesting is that none of the vile garbage being hurled at her is going to stick. I happen to know Miles McPherson and he is an AWESOME guy and a genuine person. Olbermann on the other hand is nothing but pure hatred. Here's a link to Oreilly and McPherson.
http://www.lonelyconservative.com/2009/05/05/the-attack-on-carrie-prajean-continues/
Personally,
May 6, 2009 - 12:04 ET by Paul AtreidesI'm all for digging up some dirt on Olby and Musto.
You probably don't
May 6, 2009 - 12:19 ET by Hanoverfistwant to dig in that part of the yard.
(Much less walk over there.)
"Maybe they could inject
May 6, 2009 - 12:08 ET by Jerry"Maybe they could inject some fat from her butt.."
I don't think Musto should use "injecting" and "butts" in ths same sentence.
Ba-da-bing!
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
ever since the Teabag
May 6, 2009 - 12:35 ET by seaniepever since the Teabag movement has he upped his "pun" count when it comes to anything to do with human anatomy?
I hate the New York Times more than it hates the US Military
What else would you expect from a big Penis?
May 6, 2009 - 15:41 ET by Lord ErondI mean....come on.
"They'll know we were right in the end"
-Harry Potter, The Order of the Phoenix-
For a group of people
May 6, 2009 - 13:46 ET by DEHIIIthat always preach tolerance of other views, other people and how they have a "big tent" party, they sure seem to be pretty damn intollerant of ANY view that is opposed of them.
Keith and the liberals always love to talk about how conservatives are people of hate, yet look at this...all over a woman that answered a question at a pagent.
OMG... I have been trying
May 6, 2009 - 14:10 ET by bigtimerOMG... I have been trying my best to get that slime-ball Musto out of my head since last Thursday....and here he comes again...
Fox has been covering this creep and msnbc pretty well this week regarding all of this too.
He makes one ill...I don't care who you are, who could possibly stomach this scum-ball....we know Bath-Tub and his rubber ducky can...but come on....I'm talking in the real world here.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Big...
May 6, 2009 - 14:14 ET by Georgia GirlI hear ya. Thoroughly disgusting.
"and even cracked that she
May 6, 2009 - 14:53 ET by Carl Kolchak"and even cracked that she was like a "Klaus Barbie Doll," presumably a reference to Nazi war criminal Klaus Barbie, who was a Gestapo officer responsible for thousands of deaths during World War II. "
Maybe there will be new "Khmer Rouge" dolls with Musto's likeness and he and his fan club can get together and spread their hate about Miss California and anyone who shares her views.
Olbermann & Musto further
May 6, 2009 - 14:56 ET by BeukeboomOlbermann & Musto further illustrate the maliciousness, spitefulness, vileness, hatefulness and classlessness of liberal extremists.
Bathtub Boy is clearly a
May 6, 2009 - 15:16 ET by HockeyKidBathtub Boy is clearly a card-carrying member of the International Brotherhood of Fudge Packers.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
well duuhhh
May 6, 2009 - 15:38 ET by texan1953What else you do expect from a queer and a moron?
You know, if you're slimy, ugly, stupid, ignorant and abhorrent,
May 6, 2009 - 15:40 ET by Lord ErondYou don't compound the problem, Musto, by being a militant fag. I mean, I would like to know who would go to your aid if you got run over by a bus right now.
"They'll know we were right in the end"
-Harry Potter, The Order of the Phoenix-
Who would you rather listen
May 6, 2009 - 15:51 ET by rfpzzzzzWho would you rather listen to and watch , Carrie Prejean or Michael Musto, Perez Hilton and you might as well throw in Garofolo too?
No wonder no one watches that channel.
Follow up, please
May 6, 2009 - 21:51 ET by brerolMusto spouts off what only can be defined as gross and ugly rhetoric. Now imagine someone like Limbaugh were to spew forth something comparable. How would the likes of Olberman and Shuster react to this? Would the Today Show or the NYT report on it? And for entertainment value do you think the The View would find time to chat about it?
The Miss USA winner takes
May 6, 2009 - 23:55 ET by RR GOPThe Miss USA winner takes the opposite position on the matter. I didn't get all pissed off...she's entitled to her beliefs, of course.
Isn't that tolerance?
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).
Who won the Miss USA?
May 7, 2009 - 06:30 ET by Lord ErondAll I know about is Carrie Prejean
"I'm against fascism, but I wouldn't mind eliminating all the liberals" -Unknown
Glock + Pb = Freedom from Fascists
Musto isn't a Windbag!
May 7, 2009 - 05:17 ET by MystapittPlease don't call him that.
This dumb-ass doesn't know
May 7, 2009 - 20:56 ET by rbosqueThis dumb-ass doesn't know what a Nazi is. So I'll help...
Hey Olbermann, there's a real Nazi in the White House, go take a look!