On Wednesday’s Countdown show, which aired at 9:00 p.m. after President Obama's news conference, MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann viciously slammed Republican Congresswoman Virginia Foxx for claiming that murder victim Matthew Shepard – whom the current hate crimes bill is named after – was targeted out of a desire to commit robbery rather than because of anti-gay sentiment by his attacker, contradicting the conventional wisdom that the grisly murder was a hate crime. The MSNBC host was so outraged at the North Carolina congresswoman that he named her as the night’s "Worst Person in the World" and showed particular venom toward her, even suggesting she should resign. Olbermann: "She is at best callous, insensitive, criminally misinformed. At worst she is a bald-faced liar. And if there is a spark of a human being in there somewhere, she should either immediately retract and apologize for her stupid and hurtful words or she should resign her seat in the House."
On the 11:00 p.m. special edition of Hardball, Chris Matthews and guests Joan Walsh of Salon and MSNBC political analyst Michelle Bernard also lambasted Foxx for her claim, with Walsh contending that she was either "lying" or "ignorant," and Matthews calling Foxx’s words "rough stuff." Walsh: "She's a hoax, Chris. She disgraced herself today. That was inaccurate. And what I really don't know is whether she’s lying – she knows the facts and she’s lying – or whether she’s so ignorant and arrogant that she didn’t need to delve into the facts."
But, on the November 26, 2004, 20/20, ABC host Elizabeth Vargas ran a report in which a number of figures tied to the case, including the prosecutor, were interviewed, and made a credible case that Shepard was targeted by Aaron McKinney and Russell Henderson not because of anti-gay sentiment, but because McKinney was high on methamphetamines, giving him unusual violent tendencies as well as a desire for cash to buy more drugs. Vargas not only found that a meth high can lead to the kind of extreme violence perpetrated against Shepard, but that McKinney had gone on to similarly attack another man, causing a skull fracture, very soon after his attack on Shepard. Additionally, McKinney’s girlfriend and another friend of McKinney’s even claimed that McKinney himself has bisexual tendencies, although McKinney himself denied it.
Vargas appeared on the November 19, 2004, The O’Reilly Factor on FNC and summarized her findings:
Story Continues Below Ad ↓The prosecutor who prosecuted these crimes says that he never believed it was a hate crime. He believes it was a drug crime. Aaron McKinney, according to Aaron McKinney himself and to several other witnesses, was coming down from a five-day methamphetamine binge. He freely admits he not only used methamphetamine but dealt them, sold them. Five days up with no sleep, strung out on drugs, desperate to buy more, desperate to rob somebody to get money to buy more drugs. This was the motive, according to Aaron McKinney and the other witnesses.
Below is a transcript of relevant portions of the Friday, November 19, 2004 The O’Reilly Factor on FNC, followed by the Wednesday, April 29, Countdown show on MSNBC and the same days’s Hardball on MSNBC:
#From the November 19, 2004, The O’Reilly Factor:
ELIZABETH VARGAS: We talked to a lot of witnesses in the case, looked at statements that had been previously sealed by the court following the convictions. And what we found out was that sort of the original version of events that everybody believed may not be true. The version of events was Matthew Shepard didn't know, had never met these two men, that they targeted him, attacked him, and beat him so severely because he was gay. We have talked to several witnesses who say actually the men may have in fact known each other.
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BILL O'REILLY: I just want to fill people's memories in because it was -- apparently, they were at a bar, these two guys felt he was coming on to them in some way, they lured him outside and they killed him. That was basically the nut. You're saying there was more to the murder?
VARGAS: Even the prosecutor says there was more to the murder. The prosecutor who prosecuted these crimes says that he never believed it was a hate crime. He believes it was a drug crime. Aaron McKinney, according to Aaron McKinney himself and to several other witnesses, was coming down from a five-day methamphetamine binge. He freely admits he not only used methamphetamine but dealt them, sold them. Five days up with no sleep, strung out on drugs, desperate to buy more, desperate to rob somebody to get money to buy more drugs. This was the motive, according to Aaron McKinney and the other witnesses.
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VARGAS: When we talked to an expert about this, it was something called methamphetamine rage. I mean, it's something that experts say is common for somebody coming – he beat another boy that night, another young man, only this young man. ... right after he left Matthew Shepard tied to the fence, he and his friend drove down into town, and, 20 minutes later, he was attacking somebody else in the exact same fashion. This young man happened to be armed with a baseball bat and had a friend there to help him out. Matthew Shepard was unarmed and by himself and was much more a victim of his-
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O'REILLY: So you may get backlash now from the gay groups who say, well, why even bother with this thing? What are you going to, what's the answer to that?
VARGAS: The answer to that is we're trying, we have an obligation to uncover the truth of what really happened. 20/20 was one of the first newsmagazine's to go out with this story that this was a bias crime, this was a hate crime way back in 1998 when this happened. ... The girlfriend of Aaron McKinney went on our program in silhouette ... She lied. She comes to us now, not in silhouette, in full face to admit that she lied. This was something they cooked up hoping to get him a lesser sentence to explain why he might have freaked out and done what he did.
O'REILLY: So they were going homophobia, whatever? They tried to do it.
VARGAS: They claimed that this was something from the beginning they cooked up as a way to get a lesser sentence. But I must say it's important to know we knew this would be controversial. We know there will be some people who are not happy about this version of events.
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O'REILLY: And you're a hundred percent sure that this is correct? Now you're not going to come back a year from now and say, well, we're going back to the gay thing?
VARGAS: I'm a hundred percent sure our hour is accurate. We talked to a lot of people, have a very, very-
O'REILLY: If you have a girl recanting, that's big.
VARGAS: We do. And the prosecutor himself saying he never believed it was a hate crime.
#From the April 29, 2009, Countdown:
KEITH OLBERMANN: But our winner, and this is the most despicable thing said on the floor of the House in decades. The speaker is Congresswoman Virginia Foxx from the fifth district of North Carolina, Winston-Salem, arguing against passing the Matthew Shepard hates crimes bill.
REP. VIRGINIA FOXX (R-NC): The hate crimes bill that’s called the Matthew Shepard bill is named after a very unfortunate incident that happened where a young man was killed, but we know that that young man was killed in the commitment of a robbery. It wasn't because he was gay. The bill was named for him. The hate crimes bill was named for him. But it’s really a hoax that that continues to be used as an excuse for passing these bills.
OLBERMANN: Congresswoman Foxx, you are the only hoax here. One of Matthew Shepard’s killers admitted under oath that he knew that he was gay, that they lured him from a bar by pretending to be gay themselves. Then they robbed him, pistol whipped him, fractured his skull, tortured him with a sharp implement, and they tied him to a fence post in rural Wyoming. He was not found for 18 hours. There is no excuse for Congresswoman Foxx’s remarks. She is at best callous, insensitive, criminally misinformed. At worst she is a bald-faced liar. And if there is a spark of a human being in there somewhere, she should either immediately retract and apologize for her stupid and hurtful words or she should resign her seat in the House. She is not worthy to represent this country, nor any of its parties, nor any of its peoples. She is our shame. And adding to our shame she said all that as Matthew Shephard's mother sat in the House gallery. Congresswoman Virginia Foxx, Fifth District of North Carolina, today’s "Worst Person in the World."
#From the 11:00 p.m. edition of the April 29, 2009, Hardball:
CHRIS MATTHEWS: I want you ladies to look at this. Today the House passed the Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act of 2009. But U.S. Congresswoman Virginia Foxx of North Carolina spoke out loudly against it. Here she is making her case. It’s rough stuff.
REP. VIRGINIA FOXX (R-NC): There was a bill, the hate crimes bill that’s called the Matthew Shepard bill is named after a very unfortunate incident that happened where a young man was killed, but we know that that young man was killed in the commitment of a robbery. It wasn't because he was gay. The bill was named for him. The hate crimes bill was named for him. But it’s really a hoax that that continues to be used as an excuse for passing these bills.
MATTHEWS: Well, let's go to Joan Walsh on that. Joan, what do you make of that term, a "hoax," putting down the Matthew Shepard horror story as nothing more than the usual robbery, as bad as the usual robbery is?
JOAN WALSH, SALON: Right. She's a hoax, Chris. She disgraced herself today. That was inaccurate. And what I really don't know is whether she’s lying – she knows the facts and she’s lying – or whether she’s so ignorant and arrogant that she didn’t need to delve into the facts. And the thing that really pains me about this is that she said all this with Judy Shepard, Matthew Shepard's mother, sitting right there. I’ve met Judy Shepard. She’s a woman of enormous dignity and courage, crusading for legislation and for changes of attitude that would make crimes like this impossible. To lose a son under those circumstances, and then to have to listen to this ignorant woman diminish what happened, it was just a disgrace.
MATTHEWS: Well, Michelle Bernard, we know what the story is, this young guy was in a bar. He was picked up by two fellows, they came in and portrayed themselves as gay, thinking that he was gay, and luring him out into the countryside where they basically just crucified the kid. They beat him up, they pistol-whipped him, they tied him to a fence so he would die of exposure. It wasn’t the crime you commit just to cover up the evidence. It looks like a hate crime, and, by the way, I was just at the University of Wyoming at Laramie for a whole day last week, and they are very, very sensitive about the whole issue and very concerned about gay rights from what I could tell out there.
MICHELLE BERNARD, MSNBC POLITICAL ANALYST: Absolutely. And, you know, when people look at this comment that was made today by this member of Congress, a lot of people will say this is another reason that we believe that the Republican party is completely out of touch. I suspect that there were a lot of Republicans who watched it and went, "She said we know that this was a hoax," a lot of people are saying I don’t want to be in that category of "We know." It’s just, I don’t understand how she could say it. It was very, very widely publicized. She clearly had to have read about it or should have done preparation before she went out and spoke about this today. What was done to this child was absolutely horrific. And she didn’t do the Republican party any favors whatsoever today. They are having enough problems as it is, reaching out to so many different people whether it is African-Americans, you know, homosexuals, women, the Republican party is having a lot of problems. And what we saw today with her unfortunately might just be the tip of the iceberg.
MATTHEWS: Well, you know, Joan, murder one seems to be the crime here anyway, so I wouldn't have any problem with throwing the book at these guys for all kinds of usual criminal reasons. Why do you think Republicans resist the notion of hate crimes when we all know, having grown up in this country, there are cases of people beating people up because of their ethnicity or because of their orientation. All kinds of this stuff has gone on in our history.
WALSH: I think, Chris, because they really are trying to get across the notion that gay people are asking for some kind of special rights. So they always find a way to oppose these sorts of civil rights pieces of legislation to make that point. That, well, they are protected by these other laws, and, certainly, murder, you know we can prosecute murder and we do. But this gives us a special importance and a special deterrent to these kinds of crimes. And they want to say nobody’s really prejudiced against gay people, we wish they’d be private about whatever it is they're doing.
MATTHEWS: Well, let's make a good positive American bet that Virginia Foxx will recant her words in the days ahead.
WALSH: I hope so.
MATTHEWS: I think she will, because take a trip. Congresswoman, go out to Laramie and talk to the people out there. They have a different memory of what happened out there.
—Brad Wilmouth is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.



















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Hate crimes bills are a
April 30, 2009 - 04:44 ET by mostlymoderateHate crimes bills are a joke. Murder is murder with varying degrees already taken into consideration (1st degree, 2nd degree, manslaughter, etc). I guarantee you that if a minority kills a white christian because they hate white christians, there will be no hate crime. However, if a white christian kills anything but a white christian, they will instantly be labeled as "hate criminals". Doesn't anyone that commits a murder temporarily hate somebody else to begin with? Isn't that why they murder? Isn't all murder a hate crime?
If you are trying to seal
April 30, 2009 - 09:50 ET by SRPwrdIf you are trying to seal your vote count by exploiting minorities, does sound logic and clear reasoning matter?
"I believe in American Exceptionalism, just like Brits believe in British Exceptionalism and Greeks believe in Greek Exceptionalism." - PreBO, 4/4/09
Notice
April 30, 2009 - 10:31 ET by KC MulvilleIn the media, they reacted because what she said contradicted their established meme, and did not offer a single fact to counter Foxx's version. Foxx was scorned and mocked because she said something different from the media version.
Now to be clear, I can't prove what was in the head of the murderers. For all I know, it could have been because Shepherd was gay or for any other reason, but that's my point. I don't know. I haven't studied it myself. And here's the key: I'm utterly unwilling to take the media's word for it. Any refusal to trust (and obey) the media angers and infuriates them.
Remember Katie Couric claimed that the media is supposed to shape worldviews? Look how angrily they retaliate against anyone who does not like their worldview shaped by bubble-headed media hacks.
DREAM POLICE...
April 30, 2009 - 12:06 ET by danybhoy"Hate" crimes are a total joke, & not a funny one. This has led to crap like "hate" speech codes that we now see on almost every college campus in the country. Hate crimes are discriminatory by their very existence, & should be considered unconstitutional. They only things left to outlaw are thoughts & dreams, & the "progressives" are probably working on that as we speak. An ounce of prevention instead of an pound of cure.
Funny that the left does'nt take the same approach to fighting terrorism, we would'nt want to prevent hundreds or thousands of deaths by making would be terrorists uncomfortable by asking them tough questions in a harsh manner. Then again, they are tough on crap that is really no threat, & weak on stuff that really matters.
"The Fairness Doctrine = Jim Crow laws for Conservatives". Jim Quinn from "Quinn & Rose"
"all are equal, some more equal than others"
April 30, 2009 - 05:48 ET by Texndoc"MATTHEWS: Well, let's make a good positive American bet that Virginia Foxx will recant her words in the days ahead."
Oh, I have no doubt this will happen. Especially when Jon Stewart and his echo-chamber distorts the issue and slimes her. Who would have thought "Miss California" would have more steel in her spine than 99 percent of Republicans in DC.
Does he ever get tired....
April 30, 2009 - 05:56 ET by superconOf being so wrong and making a complete fool of himself....? Who is Olberdork to call anyone a bald faced liar...?He is personally driving MSNBC right into the ground.The guy is just an old stale vaudeville act nowadays.
Hey Janet Napolitano...I'm proud to be a Right-winger.
all these guys have serious
April 30, 2009 - 10:20 ET by TruthMongerall these guys have serious issues - you can tell by the anger and bitterness - they're all mouth and no ears - think they know everything - narcissists - it's the Hitler syndrome - we are witnessing thier kampf - conservative book burnings to follow soon - and then the Christian concentration camps etc
government is the communists capitalism
Don't let the facts get in the way
April 30, 2009 - 06:00 ET by woburn828It is a shame that more research was not done by Matthews staff before destroying the reputation of Rep.Foxx.
According to Vargas "And the prosecutor himself saying he never believed it was a hate crime". Why liberals think that one type of murder is more aggregious than another baffles me.
Murder is Murder
April 30, 2009 - 09:06 ET by UnsaneSimple: because Leftists do not believe in individual rights; only the rights of groups of people. And even then, some groups of people, for injustices both real and perceived, are more equal than others.
To me, since everyone is an individual, murder is murder. I could care less about motive; that's an academic exercise.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Joan, here's your sign....
April 30, 2009 - 06:08 ET by motherbeltJoan Walsh beats all with this:
She's [Judy Shepard] a woman of enormous dignity and courage, crusading for
legislation and for changes of attitude that would make crimes like
this impossible.
Sigh......
They might say "Wow, that sucks!" But at least they'll say "Wow!" -Duff Goldman, the Ace of Cakes
Amazing!
April 30, 2009 - 09:55 ET by SRPwrdI wonder if she can make all crimes impossible?
"I believe in American Exceptionalism, just like Brits believe in British Exceptionalism and Greeks believe in Greek Exceptionalism." - PreBO, 4/4/09
LOL
April 30, 2009 - 06:20 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsDon't forget to sign the petition asking Olberman to resign. Include your own special message too.
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Makes you wonder
April 30, 2009 - 06:32 ET by general companyOlbermann: "She is at best callous, insensitive, criminally misinformed.
criminally misinformed? If their was such a thing, Oberdude would be locked up for life, what a moron.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Olberman and Matthews
April 30, 2009 - 06:39 ET by GeneralAlThese guys are the gift that keeps on giving! As their ratings continue to plunge, their venom becomes more poisonous! They keep trying to dig themselves out while pouring the dirt back into the same hole! We are going to suffer a great deal as The Teleprompter Messiah takes us into Socialism but eventually, [If we still have freedom of speech!], these MSM clowns will have no material left! The truth will win out simply by logic. When Keithy and his girlfriend Chrissy try to tell their viewers the idea that the sun is shining on the United States of Socialist Republics they will have to prove it! When they can't do that the mindless will finally begin to question the Chosen one and his motives. If ACCORN hasn't gerrymandered every district to their liking by then we will return to democracy as we win back control of Congress. We must bring Pelosi, Reid, Frank and Dodd up on criminal charges. I want to see them frog walked out of the Congressional Chambers!
Olbergoebbels...
April 30, 2009 - 07:43 ET by adamsmithHerr Obergrupenfuhrer Olbergoebbels the Soros' mouthpiece calling someone else a bald faced liar. Now THAT'S rich!!!! He needs to do a real Goebbels and swallow a cyanide tablet to return some sanity to television...I wonder how he's going to cover up the Obama administration's connections to GE once that turd hits the fan. He'll have Skippy Shuster cover while he hides in the bathtub. Olbergoebbels is truly the gift that keeps on giving......
They are the experts
April 30, 2009 - 08:04 ET by slickwillie2001When it comes to 'bisexual tendencies' and this S&M stuff, I must defer to Olbermann and Matthew's expertise.
Also, it was about drugs.
April 30, 2009 - 08:08 ET by young_schoolHaving lived in the town where the murder occurred when it occurred, robbery is more like it, and to boot, the murderers were of questionable sexuality themselves. I am not amazed that we never hear of the drug/robbery charge in the media...Fact is, many people would like to commit hate crimes against people like the Washington times (who ran a hateful story about the town) and Olberwoman.
Young School
I'm with Foxx
April 30, 2009 - 08:50 ET by americaneagleI stand behind my Representative and her statements about the Matthew Shepherd case. People have known for years that this was a robbery that escalated to a despicable murder, but that homosexuality had nothing to do with it. Homosexuality only became linked with it when outside activists started feeding the media a "gay-bashing" murder story, which they ate up like it was ice cream in August.
Rep. Foxx has my support and likely the support of the vast majority of her constituents here in NW North Carolina, and we have no desire to see her either apologize or resign. We elected her, not Keith Olbermann so he should go sit in his tub and soak, and stay the hell out of our politics here in North Carolina!
**Matthew Shepard
April 30, 2009 - 08:58 ET by pelicanmarshThis young man is dead. Killed. True story.
Joan Walsh said regarding Rep. Foxx saying Matthew's murder was a robbery and not a hate crime due to his being homosexual: "To lose a son under those circumstances, and then to have to listen to
this ignorant woman diminish what happened, it was just a disgrace."
Oh. I see. Soooo, this young man's death means more, or is more significant, simply because he was queer. If it comes out that he was killed simply for money,...well,...that just doesn't really have the same impact, now does it?
This is the worst retroactive victim mentality application I think I have seen for quite some time.
Martyred has a better ring
April 30, 2009 - 09:07 ET by SickofLibsMartyred has a better ring to it better than murdered.
Martyred
April 30, 2009 - 17:09 ET by Kat Outta the Bag"We love our dead gay martyr!"
It is quite disgusting how
April 30, 2009 - 11:23 ET by MrSnugglesIt is quite disgusting how the left is using a murder for political gain. But what else is new?
How can anyone support the
April 30, 2009 - 09:00 ET by ThatDudeHow can anyone support the idea of a hate crime? Is it 1984 and people are charged with thought crimes? How can you charge someone with a crime for their thoughts an beliefs? Motivation for a crime is essentially negligible. What matters is what actions come about. Charge the crime for what it is! I'd venture to guess that everyone has their own bias or hatred of certain groups (nazis and KKK immediately comes to mind). So, tell me whether we should charge someone with a hate crime for vandalizing a KKK member's home. What has become of our country that we can't even think freely?
accidental post
April 30, 2009 - 09:25 ET by JasonCaccidental post
Matthew Shepard
April 30, 2009 - 09:18 ET by IcarusAnd plenty of people have debunked the 2004 ABC News report. Like the retired Laramie police chief Dave O'Malley.
Gays live with assorted lies.
April 30, 2009 - 09:52 ET by sevenLie #1 Born that way
#2 Can't change
#3 Homophobia is a disease.
If they are born that way, why is the abortion of an unborn gay not also a hate crime? The meth motive for killing and stealing from shepherd is not a popular truth.
A 13-year-old boy in Arkansas dies after a horrific sexual crime but much of the national media ignore the story. Conservative columnists and other critics think they know why — because the boy's accused killers are gay.
"[The media] doesn't want the public to think about homosexuality and pedophilia and torture and the murder of children," says Don Feder, a conservative columnist at the Boston Herald.
The boy, Jesse Dirkhising, was bound, drugged, tortured and raped for five hours before he died in 1999.
Last month, a jury convicted Joshua Brown, 23, of rape and murder. Brown was sentenced to life in prison without parole, the maximum sentence. Brown's lover, Davis Carpenter, 39, goes on trial next month.
But the case received little attention in the national media. Critics say that is evidence of pro-gay bias, noting that news organizations gave extensive coverage to the 1998 murder of Matthew Shepard, a young gay man who was hung on a fence post by two straight men and left to die.
All that we know, all that
April 30, 2009 - 11:30 ET by MrSnugglesAll that we know, all that the facts tell us is that two "straight" males murdered one "gay" male. Does that in itself make it a hate crime?
Murder for drugs sounds like a much more plausible motive, and instead of them "hating" gay people they pretended to be gay so that they could lure the guy to set up the robbery and murder. Is that proof of "hate"? Not even close
double post sorry
April 30, 2009 - 09:48 ET by MANstreammediadouble post sorry
So am I a bigot if I'm
April 30, 2009 - 09:48 ET by MANstreammediaSo am I a bigot if I'm murders of people of different races, religions, sexual orientations, etc equally piss me off?
She’s a woman of enormous
April 30, 2009 - 10:25 ET by fitzfongShe’s a woman of enormous dignity and courage, crusading for legislation and for changes of attitude that would make crimes like this impossible.
Impossible? And Joan Walsh has the nerve to call Virgina Foxx "ignorant"? Does it really matter why Matthew Shepard was murdered? The tragedy stems from the fact that he was murdered, not from the motivation for his murder. The term "Hate Crime" is so self-servingly dishonest...in reality, it is a backdoor to "Thought Crime". I'm sorry, but as repulsive as some prejudices may be, it's not a crime to possess those attitudes. If one acts on those prejudices in committing a crime, he or she should be punished for the crime itself, not for what he or she may have been thinking at the time (especially since it can never be proven). The fact that liberals find it appropriate to capitalize on the tragic murders of Matthew Shepard and James Byrd to advance their own bankrupt political agenda is sickening.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
Olberfuher May Be An Idiot, But So Is Rep. Foxx...
April 30, 2009 - 22:22 ET by The7SticksThis is what irritates me about idiots like Olberfuher: They totally discredit those of us who's only bitch is the truth. The issue here isn't whether Rep. Foxx was lying, but that she made the charge that the whole Matthew Sheppard murder was a "hoax" perpetrated by homosexual activists. She may have been referring to the murder itself as a hoax, not that the hoax was that it was motivated by hatred towards homosexuals. It didn't particularly help when it was discovered that Matthew Sheppard's mother was listening in the chamber. So what I'm saying is that it was tactless for Rep. Foxx to simply declare that the whole incident was a hoax, and if she truly was concerned about it, she would have done a better job digging for the report that you guys dug up from ABC.
I will be fair and say that Olberfuher is the bigger idiot at the moment, but Rep. Foxx does deserve some credit for being tactless.
You really bend over
September 15, 2009 - 12:36 ET by HockeyKidYou really bend over backward to try to come up with these moral equivalences.
Rep. Foxx didn't claim the "whole incident was a hoax", she said it's a hoax that the gay motive is ascribed to the Shepard murder as a means to push hate crimes legislation.
So, you equate Olbermann with Foxx, trying to show that both are somehow at fault and you are the erudite moderate. Too bad you can't read.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Gays can't give up
May 1, 2009 - 01:21 ET by CooltomGays can't give up Matthew Shepherd. He is their
Wessel, Horst
(1907-30), German Nazi-party member, born in Bielefeld; reputed martyr of German Nazi movement, whose death inspired song "Horst Wessel Lied," which became Nazi anthem; a perennial student and somewhat a wastrel; joined Nazi Party 1926 and became a member of the SA (Storm Troopers); killed in a brawl in Berlin on Feb. 23, 1930; Nazi leaders, especially Joseph Goebbels, hailed him as a martyr to Nazi cause.
There are many newsreels of German stormtroopers pledging an oath while touching a flag that supposedly was stained with Wessel's blood.
The closer you look at liberals you see that they emulate the Nazis in many ways.
Gays can't give up
May 1, 2009 - 01:22 ET by CooltomGays can't give up Matthew Shepherd. He is their
Wessel, Horst
(1907-30), German Nazi-party member, born in Bielefeld; reputed martyr of German Nazi movement, whose death inspired song "Horst Wessel Lied," which became Nazi anthem; a perennial student and somewhat a wastrel; joined Nazi Party 1926 and became a member of the SA (Storm Troopers); killed in a brawl in Berlin on Feb. 23, 1930; Nazi leaders, especially Joseph Goebbels, hailed him as a martyr to Nazi cause.
There are many newsreels of German stormtroopers pledging an oath while touching a flag that supposedly was stained with Wessel's blood.
The closer you look at liberals you see that they emulate the Nazis in many ways.