On Saturday’s Fox News Watch, conservative panelist Jim Pinkerton pointed out that, contrary to the impression given by the mainstream media, President Barack Obama’s approval rating, as measured by Gallup, is relatively low compared to his recent predecessors for the 100-day mark, and is even below where President George W. Bush was after his first 100 days. Pinkerton observed: "Judith Klnghoffer, writing for the History News Network, made the point that Obama actually ranks seventh of the last nine presidents in Gallup poll opinion ratings. So seventh out of nine isn't so good."
Judith Klinghoffer’s article, "Obama’s Polls Trail Those of W.; Gallup Covers it Up," notes that Bush’s approval rating taken by Gallup stood at 62 percent after his first 100 days, while Obama’s currently stands at 56 percent.
A few minutes later, moderator John Scott returned to the subject:
Story Continues Below Ad ↓JON SCOTT: And in the first term, George Bush had a 60 percent approval rating after his first 100 days-
PINKERTON: And Bush 41 as well, who I worked for way back when. And Laura Bush has a higher rating than Michelle Obama.
SCOTT: Is that going to get mentioned in the press?
PINKERTON: You just wouldn't know it from reading the mainstream media.
Below is a transcript of the relevant portion of the Saturday, April 25, Fox News Watch on FNC:
JON SCOTT: Day one, Barack Obama sworn in as our 44th President back in January. Now, just days away from the 100-day mark. All right, Jim, how are the media going to observe this 100th day?
JIM PINKERTON: Well, I mean, as President Obama has the benefit, he's the first black President to anything, so it's kind of exciting. Even people who don't like him are still sort of intrigued by him and his family and so on, But every now and then, you have to apply some sort of metrics to get some grip on where we are, and Judith Klnghoffer, writing for the History News Network, made the point that Obama actually ranks seventh of the last nine presidents in Gallup poll opinion ratings. So seventh out of nine isn’t so good.
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SCOTT: And in the first term, George Bush had a 60 percent approval rating after his first 100 days-
PINKERTON: And Bush 41 as well, who I worked for way back when. And Laura Bush has a higher rating than Michelle Obama.
SCOTT: Is that going to get mentioned in the press?
PINKERTON: You just wouldn't know it from reading the mainstream media.
MARISA GUTHRIE, BROADCAST AND CABLE MAGAZINE: No, there was a story, there was a New York Times op-ed written by one of the directors at the Pew Center who said that Obama's ratings are mirroring George Bush's ratings in his second term.
PINKERTON: But, okay, but mirroring implies same whereas actually lower is lower.
—Brad Wilmouth is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.
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Clearly, a certain level of racism is at work here
April 25, 2009 - 15:54 ET by krendlerjust wait. :-) How else could he possibly have relatively low approval ratings?
If anyone dared to mention this factoid on one of these political round tables, I can guarantee you a race-card or two or three is going to be produced.
Au Contraire
April 25, 2009 - 19:13 ET by CaringwhiteguyJust an assumption here, but think it's valid. The approval rate for Obama should actually be higher among black Americans than white Americans, and certainly much higher than GWB among black Americans. . . . and that's why Obama's approval rate is as HIGH as it is.
polls
April 26, 2009 - 20:42 ET by demobaterPolls are meaningless at this point in time. 100 days big deal, wait for the first 365 days and they will be ready to ride Barry O out on a rail. He is the most inexperienced President to sit in the oval office and his administration and lackeys are total jokes with no clue except how to totally ruin a very good nation. Even the liars in the media will not be able to cover up for barry when the real changes he is about take place and start causing massive pain for Americans, his poll numbers will plumet like a lead weight in a pond...
CWG ~ I believe you are correct on that. Hopefully, they will
April 26, 2009 - 21:48 ET by pahuberwake up and realize that all the promises made to them are not deliverable. Somebody articulate needs to be ready and reach across the isle and tell them the truth and offer hope in the free enterprise way (e.g., vouchers so they may get their kids a true education at a private school, etc.).
To an extent you are
April 25, 2009 - 19:49 ET by BDTo an extent you are correct. During the POTUS recent trip to middle east in which he met with troops, the press reported on a wild reception he received.
But when photos of the event were analyzed by even the most disinterested of observors it becomes plain that the crowd was highly comprised of African American soldiers well outside the normal margins.
If the photo were to show an accurate demographic cross section of the US military, about 11-12% of the persons depicted wildly greeting the POTUS should have been African Americans. Accounting to mistakes in racial characterization you can still see that the greater than 50% spread of the demographic indicates SOMETHING racial was going on at this event.
Question: If one category overwhelmingly votes for racial reasons, is that racist in nature? And should this not be reported for what it is?
FOX news will be the only
April 25, 2009 - 16:11 ET by ConservativeRexFOX news will be the only network reporting these numbers.
The aparatchniks on the other networks will act as if these numbers never existed or outright lie about them. No one will question them on it. There will be no debate.
They have Stalin as an example. Look for arrest soon of outspoken Conservatives. With some on the FOX networks being the first ones arrested.
It's not like it hasn't happened before. Even in this country.
How can anyone even compare these numbers?
April 26, 2009 - 00:30 ET by Ten7sHow can anyone even compare these numbers? The MSM had been telling everyone for months how President Bush was "illegitimate"; while the press has been fawning over Obama for at least a year. Wait until the end of Obama's term, by then maybe the average citizen will see through the Liberal smoke-screen to the rotten fruits produced by the putrid Marxist, Obama.
Ten.... Right you are,
April 26, 2009 - 00:42 ET by bigtimerTen....
Right you are, but I hope enough already see through thats smoke-screen by '10.
We cannot forget the power O-ACORN-Rahm now have with the Census Buruea...and the power they have with complete slime, the likes of slithering we have yet to see.
...Let alone the Gerrymandering to-boot.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Just proves the MSM is not
April 25, 2009 - 16:13 ET by ThisnThatJust proves the MSM is not a representative of the truth, nor a protector of our 1st Ammendment rights. They have completely sold themselves down the river. We need a new outlet, that represents the "press", that Americans can rely upon. To get there, though, the old guard needs to be taken down. I think Fox News and Newsbusters are the vanguard in doing this.
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The challenge is to follow a consistent plan despite inconsistent prices - Sarah Palin, State of the State of Alaska speech
Yes!
April 25, 2009 - 16:30 ET by heldmywAnd we shall call it...
THE INTERNET!
Alternatives
April 25, 2009 - 17:01 ET by KC MulvilleI still don't understand why there is no conservative alternative to Fox. The numbers scream at you: liberals' viewers are falling, but conservative media is thriving. Any business forecast would argue that the money is with conservatives. So why doesn't it happen?
KC... Money, guts
April 25, 2009 - 23:59 ET by bigtimerKC...
Money, guts and determination.
Paul Weyrich God Rest his Soul was the last man that tried...I thank God for every minute of it and what we could contribute in all the ways we were able to.
You are right, it is much needed, and it would succeed too if the backing was right and dependable for the long haul for the losses you would take for the coming years until you break even and then make the profits.
God knows I crave a real conservative station...and like you, have posted as such over time.
I hope to see major station we are speaking of before I leave this earth.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
"Is that going to get
April 25, 2009 - 16:32 ET by Chris Norman"Is that going to get mentioned in the press?"
No, they'll just continue to publicize polls showing Obama at 75% approval - the polls that make you scratch your head and think, who are they polling, the DNC?
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
I don't know where you're
April 25, 2009 - 17:03 ET by RagamuffinI don't know where you're getting your numbers from:
Rag - You have to look deeper
April 25, 2009 - 18:09 ET by RevLawHow to produce high approval ratings for Obama
Steve McCann
Just read an AP report: the percentage of Americans that think the country is on the right track rose to 48% in March as compared to 40% in February. In light of the unemployment rising, the debacle in foreign affairs etc, I found it unlikely. So I looked into the details of the poll.
73% of the Democrats polled thought we were on the right track
17% of Independents
10% of Republicans
That made it even more suspicious as to how those numbers could result in a 48% overall right track vote.
So digging deeper, it turns out
36% of those polled were Democrats
18% Republican
26% Independent
18% None claimed
In the 2008 election the spread between Democrats and Republicans was 6.5 percentage points not 18 and independents made up 22% of the vote not 26%.
It appears that there have been similar distortions in the various polls measuring Obama's approval ratings.
"You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We will preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on earth, or we will sentence them to take the first step into a thousand years of darkness." Ronald Reagan
Don't forget that during his impeachment
April 26, 2009 - 17:33 ET by TheHistorianthe media incessantyl talked about Bill Clinton's approval rating in the 90%. My father used to say:
"There are liars, there are d**n liars, and their are statisticians". I believe this also applies to pollsters.
"What experience and history teach is
this - that people and governments never have learned anything from history,
or acted on principles deduced from it."
G. W. F. Hegel
No doubt about it...
April 26, 2009 - 17:39 ET by bigtimerTH....
Your father was a very wise man.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Sounds like you aren't very
April 26, 2009 - 22:08 ET by RagamuffinSounds like you aren't very well read . . .
-- Leonard Henry Courtney
But then again, it doesn't surprise me that you wouldn't be aware of such things.
so you're trying to say
April 26, 2009 - 22:30 ET by botghis father didn't used to say that or he wasn't wise because someone else said it first?
my mom used to say "if wishes were horses we all would ride" just because it's a quote doesn't mean she didn't say it or that she wasn't wise.
sounds like you aren't very asute
"Outside of a dog a book is man's best friend,------------inside a dog it's too dark to read" ---Groucho
sounds like you aren't very
April 26, 2009 - 23:26 ET by Ragamuffinsounds like you aren't very asute
Actually, I'm astute enough to realize that I didn't reply to TheHistorian but bigtimer. So what does TheHistorian's father have to do with my reply? Nothing.
Now wipe that egg off your face.
→ ragamuffin
April 26, 2009 - 23:33 ET by Cool ArrowMy dad used to say
Son if you're not in bed by 11:00!
It's hard to talk when you're teabagging - Anderson Cooper
The Spinning Top
April 26, 2009 - 23:34 ET by bigtimerHey botg...it's your turn to push that handle down on that top of Rm's...he needs some more spin.
Know what I mean...it's your turn again, give it a good push downward, I have to head for the bed.
Have a good one all./
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
even the NHL recognizes
April 27, 2009 - 00:05 ET by botga continuation play, BT's comment was based on theHistorians and BT's comment (that you replied to) was about TH's father. so are you next going to say your reply was to BT and not about BTs comment?
"deeez i cudda had a human beein for da same price" ---Benny Hill
Oh rag, I'll bet you copied and googled the quote and thought
April 26, 2009 - 22:37 ET by pahuberyou had a coup.
His father still probably quoted it because he liked the quote.
Rag, facts never lie, however liers can figure
April 26, 2009 - 22:56 ET by upcountrywaterMark Twain on some facts
Rag : One gets
such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment
of fact
Reagan VS 0bama
90%? Baloney. That was
April 26, 2009 - 22:25 ET by Jer90%? Baloney. That was neither true nor reported by the media as such.
Jer
I am really surprised that
April 25, 2009 - 17:10 ET by d1carterI am really surprised that Roland Martin hasn't addressed this in his NO BULL show!/sarc
Is the sarc button really needed here?
It has been hysterical
April 25, 2009 - 17:40 ET by bigtimerIt has been hysterical watching the main stream news media avoid the truth that has been out there for months with O's ratings, especially Matthews, he just stutters if he even seeing it get close the fifties in range for his Lord and Master...instead they use their own ratings or pick and choose from other left leaning polls, always have always will.
Job well done Fox and Pinkerton.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Polls? Slanted?
April 25, 2009 - 19:42 ET by ColdsnapColor me shocked. Why not poll dead people too?
"Excuse me sir? If you believe Obama's the best thing ever to happen to this country...remain lying down."
*check*
Baby's Interpretation of Obama's Budget
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zHUoo3R2bE
WRONG
April 25, 2009 - 23:10 ET by SayAnythingGallup polled Bush's Approval Rating at 62%
Gallup is currently polling Obama's Approval Rating at 66%
Its all right there on the site.
What Newsbusters is citing is Obama's numbers when it comes to how many American think Obama is doing an "Excellent Job".
This poll is NOT the overall Approval Rating poll that Newsbusters is citing for Bush. So if you want to compare approval ratings Obama is doing better than Bush by 4% by the same Gallup poll.
It would be more honest to compare how many Americans in 2000 thought Bush was doing an "Excellent Job".
So to sum it up polls regarding excellency and overall Approval Ratings are two different polls.
I know how difficult reality seems to grasp those of you in a conservative echo-chamber.
I know how difficult
April 26, 2009 - 01:24 ET by Dan The Man 2I know how difficult reality seems to grasp those of you in a conservative echo-chamber.
Personally I think the polls are gamed by those concerned and they represent BS. Its not we who pointed this out but an article. What is does do is point out some inconvienent facts, Obaam is doing a poor job and most diapprove of his job.
It really doesn't matter a hill of beans or a bevy of farts in your case. Troll on Dude.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
What's scary to me is
April 26, 2009 - 02:10 ET by RR GOPWhat's scary to me is that:
A. It's not a hell of a lot lower by now.
B. If it weren't for the economic/spending stuff and everything else were exactly the same it'd be sky high.
Every time I hear about new layoffs by these companies, I judge by what they are and where the layoffs are geographically and figure that most of them so far voted for TOTUS.
At least, that's what I do to give myself some sense that there is such a thing as Karma and universal justice.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).
Re scary
April 26, 2009 - 09:31 ET by slickwillie2001I believe that the Bamster's polls are inflated by a very real and credible fear of being labeled a racist if you do not approve of him. This is where we are going, -in 2012, the democratics will imply that a vote for the Republican candidate signals racism. They have been playing the race victim card for decades now, this is a minor extension of that strategy.
I believe a more accurate measure of the Bamster's popularity is to ask followup questions like 'are you in favor of his programs' or 'give him a grade', and then throw away the first question and measure on the second. Or maybe they should simply ask 'is it racist to oppose what the President is doing'.
What is your basis?
April 26, 2009 - 16:13 ET by TheHistorianI disagree. I don't think most people in the US care at all about Obama's half-black status other than a few pony-tailed liberals and the black community. Most people don't care; they want him to succeed, and see all these positive reports on Obama. There was a lot more concern over Clarence Thomas becoming a Supreme Court justice 20 years ago, and he seems to have prevailed fine.
The only people currently worried about race are the people who make money off from it (e.g. Jesse Jackson).
The Polls and The Prompter Messiah
April 26, 2009 - 08:16 ET by GeneralAlPersonally, I don't care what the polls say about the Prompter Messiah! The only poll that matters to me is my personal poll!
In that poll I rate the Prompter Messiah this way:
Foreign Policy - FFF
Economy - FFF
Defense - FFF
Illegal Immigration - FFF
Honesty - FFF
I tried to give this man the benefit of the doubt but his actions have left no doubt in my Proud, Right Wing, Extreme Mind!
Why is he considered a black President?
April 26, 2009 - 16:08 ET by TheHistorianWhy does it matter to the media that he is the first "black"
President? Do they do something different than any other President?
Let's quit the dishonesty; let's rate him as President, and quit the
"black". Nobody callled Bill Clinton our first Arkansas President, did
they? OrJimmah Carter our first Georgia President?
While he (Obama) has half Kenyan blood, he was raised (mostly) in a white environment. How does this make him "black"? I fail to understand.
I am sitting here watching that the President is being "kept aware" of the swine flu results. This seems to be typical of the reporting on this President. Long on "watching", "monitoring", etc. I REALLY care about what he is "monitoring".
→ Why bother?
April 26, 2009 - 16:13 ET by Cool ArrowHe carries with him most of the characteristics that qualify him as black.
I don't see yours as a very good argument.
It's hard to talk when you're teabagging - Anderson Cooper
Cool...Maybe not, but I
April 26, 2009 - 16:26 ET by bigtimerCool...Maybe not, but I understand his point of view.
I am past sick to death of the First Black President BS... it is way past over-used, boring and of course used as propaganda to stuff down our throats if we say as such ....so we are all labeled racist somehow.
He is half white, he is Kenyan, he is also a Marxist that is going to destroy this country if he and his pals have their way...and as far as I am concerned not a Constitutional Prez in any way, shape or form, it was and is a sad day in hell that this enemy within was ever Sworn in without being properly vetted, we now have opened the door for all non-citizens of the US to become Prez/
Rev. Wright has to be proud....as Soros smiles on.
Black Nationalism is what he and Michele and all their ilk are striving for...as the whole world cheers on.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
→ What I'm sayin'
April 26, 2009 - 16:31 ET by Cool ArrowI say we concentrate on those things he definitely is, or is not.
That old "One Drop Rule" from Slavery days easily includes Obama among the demographi8c we refer to as "Black"
Marxist? Kenyan? Anti-Constitutional? All good observations, but easily dismissed and sidetracked once one introduces the "He's not black" argument.
It's hard to talk when you're teabagging - Anderson Cooper
One drop of blood?
April 26, 2009 - 16:52 ET by TheHistorianIf that is your criteria, you mean to tell me that we have had 44 Presidents and only ONE has had "1 drop" of black blood? The last time I checked, slavery had been gone about 145 years in the US.
The argument is specious, and besides, the real argument is, who cares except a bunch of racist liberals who want to keep score by demographics?
I will judge him by what he does or fails to do. Remember, that Martin Luther King said to judge men by the "content of their character, not the color of their skin".
→ It's not mine
April 26, 2009 - 16:56 ET by Cool ArrowI didn't come up with the rule.
In times gone by, he might be classified as "high yellow" for all I know.
I just don't see the sense in trying to argue he's not black.
It's hard to talk when you're teabagging - Anderson Cooper
Black or not black
April 26, 2009 - 17:05 ET by Kat Outta the Bag"High yellow" or "mulatto", right? Those are descriptions we thankfully don't use anymore.
I grew up in the post-Civil Rights era when schools were no longer segregated here in the South. I was raised to see each person as an individual and that's how I see Obama. I acknowledge that he's (at least partly) black, but beyond that I judge him by his actions...actions I don't agree with morally or politically.
RO... I am not arguing
April 26, 2009 - 17:15 ET by bigtimerRO...
I am not arguing the skin color, but let me ask you something, do you think for one iota of a second if this Prez was Steele, Keyes, Swan or Watts the msm would have went on and on daily with this color/race propaganda...implying if we say we are tired of this now, they would move on...heck, they would rarely talk about it....at all in the first place.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Steele, Swan, or Watts
April 26, 2009 - 17:24 ET by Cool ArrowThey'd use those men's skin color against them, for sure. But I doubt the MSM would deny the obvious. It's too easy to trot out a Harry Belafonte to call him a house slave.
It's hard to talk when you're teabagging - Anderson Cooper
RO... I am sick of the
April 26, 2009 - 16:58 ET by bigtimerRO...
I am sick of the whole "Black" issue period.
This is going to backfire.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
→ I think so too
April 26, 2009 - 17:02 ET by Cool ArrowHe's Jimmy Carter on Steroids.
Put on an extra sweater and enjoy.
It's hard to talk when you're teabagging - Anderson Cooper
bt..he is black "because
April 26, 2009 - 17:15 ET by motherbeltbt..he is black "because that is how he has named himself" according to his sister (I forget her name).
He is also the first Black President according to media.
Except when they are lauding the unbearable hipness of his being....then he's white AND he's black!
Nice how that white thing comes and goes, ain't it?
They might say "Wow, that sucks!" But at least they'll say "Wow!" -Duff Goldman, the Ace of Cakes
Now, now mb.... Come on,
April 26, 2009 - 17:25 ET by bigtimerNow, now mb....
Come on, how soon we forget... the media following Maya Angelou called Clintoon the First Black President.
Poor, Poor, Pathetic Bill, Obama has out done him in so many ways, spotlight and all.... really now all BJ has to look forward to for his claim to fame in the History books is "Impeached President"
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
You must understand the
April 27, 2009 - 08:11 ET by Magic2171You must understand the rules,
Obama is not incompentant he is black (sort of).
Obama is not a con man, he is black (sort of).
Obama is not a criminal, he is black (sort of).
Obama administration is not corrupt, it was chosen by a black (sort of).
Any error or qact that maybe considered wrong/illegal must be submitted to the above rules and then vetted by the PC board. America must suffer for the next 3+ years to justify electing a total incompentant as president but he allows the PC crowd to say that racism is gone by his election. Don't elect anyone good elect them by the color of their skin. Dr. King must be spinning in his grave.