Turner: America's 'Naked Aggression' vs Iraq Like USSR Invading Afghanistan

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As CNN founder Ted Turner appeared as a guest on Sunday's Meet the Press, after NBC host Tom Brokaw expressed concerns about trying to deal with Vladimir Putin's Russia after what happened when President Carter tried to deal with former Soviet leader Leonid Brezhnev, Turner compared the Soviet Union's 1979 invasion of Afghanistan to America's invasions of both Afghanistan and Iraq, and called the Iraq invasion "naked aggression" by the United States. Turner even tried to argue that the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan was more defensible than America's invasion of Afghanistan because "at least it's on the border of the former Soviet Union." When NBC host Tom Brokaw took him to task for trying to "justify" the USSR's actions, Turner responded, "Why can't I try and justify it?" Turner also contended that the old Soviet KGB was "an honorable place to work" like America's FBI, and claimed that it gave Soviet citizens "an opportunity to do something important and worthwhile."

TED TURNER: Well, we invaded Afghanistan, too, and it’s a lot further, at least it’s on the border of the Soviet Union, or the former Soviet Union or Russia. A lot of these countries have changed names several times.

TOM BROKAW: But, Ted, don’t try to go there in terms of justifying that. I mean, it was, the fact is that the Russians, it was a naked aggression.

TURNER: Why can’t I try and justify it?

BROKAW: Well, it was naked aggression on the part of the Russians at the time.

TURNER: Well, going into Iraq was naked aggression on the part of the United States.

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The discussion of the former Soviet Union began as Turner was talking about trying to work with Russia to eliminate nuclear weapons. Partially quoting John McCain, Brokaw brought up the concerns some have about Putin's history of being a KGB agent. Turner defended the "honor" of the KGB: "Well, [Putin] had that background, but, you know, we have an FBI, and we’re not prejudiced against somebody who’s worked at the FBI. It’s got an honorable place to work. And the KGB, I think, was an honorable place to work And it gave people in the former Soviet Union, a communist country, an opportunity to do something important and worthwhile."

Brokaw pointed out that after President Carter tried to form a friendly relationship with Brezhnev, the former Soviet leader ordered an invasion of Afghanistan, prompting Turner to make his aforementioned rationalization of the USSR's behavior.

Below is a transcript of the relevant portion of the Sunday, November 30, Meet the Press on NBC:

TOM BROKAW: You met Vladimir Putin when he was just an aide to the mayor of St. Petersburg. He picked up you and Jane Fonda, to whom you were married at the time, but as you have watched him since then, most people see not in his eyes a soulful person, but the eyes, "three letters," as someone has put it, "K-G-B," that he is-

TED TURNER: Well, he had that background, but, you know, we have an FBI, and we’re not prejudiced against somebody who’s worked at the FBI. It’s got an honorable place to work. And the KGB, I think, was an honorable place to work And it gave people in the former Soviet Union, a communist country, an opportunity to do something important and worthwhile.

BROKAW: But in the meantime, it appears that he’s very much more interested in just causing difficulty for the United States, getting in our face, in a manner of speaking-

TURNER: Well, wait, we’re the ones, in my opinion, we’re the ones that started that. We’re the ones that started it by putting the Star Wars system in Czechoslovakia and Poland when they wanted to be part of it. We said that that system is only to protect us from Iran, or protect Europe from Iranian missiles, so why didn’t we cooperate with the Russians? Why have we constantly been pushing, we’ve been pushing on the Russians all the time.

BROKAW: Your friend Jimmy Carter tried to be friendly with Leonid Brezhnev. And for his friendliness, what did Brezhnev do?

TURNER Well, I don’t remember.

BROKAW, AS HE AND TURNER CROSS TALK: He invaded Afghanistan.

TURNER: That was before I got involved.

BROKAW: He invaded Afghanistan.

TURNER: Well, we invaded Afghanistan, too, and it’s a lot further, at least it’s on the border of the Soviet Union, or the former Soviet Union or Russia. A lot of these countries have changed names several times.

BROKAW: But, Ted, don’t try to go there in terms of justifying that. I mean, it was, the fact is that the Russians, it was a naked aggression.

TURNER: Why can’t I try and justify it?

BROKAW: Well, it was naked aggression on the part of the Russians at the time.

TURNER: Well, going into Iraq was naked aggression on the part of the United States.

—Brad Wilmouth is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.


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When NBC host Tom Brokaw

When NBC host Tom Brokaw took him to task for trying to "justify" the USSR's actions, Turner demanded, "Why can't I try and justify it?"

Um, because it's silly, Ted?

“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)

Loon, Meet the

Loon, Meet the Press. Press, Meet the Loon. 

Ted Turner

Now I know why Brokow and Co. have this guy on TV. It is not his money or books, but his outrageous bs.

Actually, it is revealing to see just how out of touch some of the wealthy people are.  He seems guilty to have so much. His comment giving money to less fortunate people to get into heaven is rich. He can send me a check any time. If that makes him feel happy, then he can a BIG check. I don't think he is very happy with all of his money. 

I laughed out loud when he sang "Home on the Range". What an egomaniac.

 

Seriously folks, does

Seriously folks, does anyone care what terrible Ted has to say? Other than people in the media and people like us that are political junkies, I doubt that even 10% of our population even knows who he is.

Not My President

 

 Making Fun of AGW http://giovanniworld.wordpress.com/  

Man that was good t.v.

It was great to watch Brokaw try to keep a straight face. Ted was in rare form this morning, and even Tom could not let it go unchallenged. But seriously, if MTP had and credibility (sarc on) it is now gone. Did they really have to give that nut 15 minutes to plug his new book?

"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever."~David St. Hubbins

 

 

 

 

 

 

I wonder

I wonder if Tim Russert thought the election turned out okay. RIP Tim Russert

Long live George W. Bush

Long live John McCain

GOP 2010

Sarah Palin, Bobby Jindal, Michael Steele 2012

Great thing about freedom

Your right to say anything, however stupid, is the same right that allows me to dismiss you as an irrelevant, self-glorifying menace.

What's disturbing, however, is the fact that either Tom Brokaw or the whole NBC News staff consider Ted Turner to be a person worth listening to. Why did they put this idiot on the air?

Years ago, Tim Russert was hosting a MTP roundtable about religion. A priest complained that the media devotes so little time to religion. Russert indignantly objected that he was giving religion an entire hour(!) of network time, and that alone proved that NBC considered the topic important enough for the American public to pay attention.

Well, the same rule applies here. NBC devoted time to this anti-American dolt, which means they consider him important. Why?

The media favors the media. Ted Turner made money in the media, so the media considers him important. They claim to see the world through the eyes of ordinary citizens, but they're just pushing the media's agenda. That's the fraud at the foundation of the media.

fbi thugs, punks, assassins

The greatest threat to mankind are the murderers and torturers of the fbi/cia.

"Invade my country I will invade yours;invade my brain, all bets are off"-geral sosbee.

 

For more thoughts on the collapse of USA, see:

http://www.sosbeevfbi.com/part4-worldinabo.html

 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2008/11/382350.shtml?discuss

 http://sosbeevfbi.ning.com/forum/topics/the-responsibility-for-the

any questions! geral sosbee (956)371-5210 yours truly, geral

The greatest threat to

The greatest threat to mankind are the murderers and torturers of the fbi/cia.

Seems to me if the CIA was one-tenth as ruthless as you claim, we wouldn't have nearly so many problems in the world.

I'm not even going to get started on how ignorant you must be not see the real evil in this world.

 

"Gov. Palin has been subjected to one of the most massive and dishonest pile-on smear attacks in the history of liberal media."  -- Lowell Ponte

The greatest threat to

The greatest threat to mankind are the murderers and torturers of the fbi/cia.

Oh God, another CONSPIRO in the house....

THese guys waste my time and energy.  For years they used to call the J-STARS office and claim that since it had the word STARS in it they must know all about "The Aliens". 

WHile often amusing, the funniest part is they do not seek to be.

Former FBI agent?  I don't

Former FBI agent?  I don't believe that you are, but for the sake of argument, I'll tell you that I know a little something of the FBI.

I witnessed first-hand how the FBI turned a fairly decent man, my father, into a raving paranoid, racist, anti-semitic wretch...just like you.  You allegedly know all these things and yet you did nothing to stop it. 

You are a loser and your boring bromides will fall on deaf ears.

Do yourself a favor and spare the non compos mentis platitudes for the John Birchers, the Coast to Coast AM crowd, and those who get their news from shortwave radio.

Liberal: a power worshipper without power. George Orwell

actually its the NSA people should be afraid of

CIA are public stooges and fodder for hollywood to lampoon.

its the NSA which is much larger and seems to be better able to fly under the radar. 

...And then ABP surfaces to

...And then ABP surfaces to talk about things of which she in unfamiliar.

I always LOVE those movies that show the NSA guys walking around with silence pistols WACKIN guys.  Most amusing.....

delete

delete 

Ted Forgets

I guess Ted forgot that Saddam's Iraq invaded Kuwait and Iran. I guess Ted forgot that Saddam was in violation of his  Gulf War cease fire obligations.  I guess Ted forgot that Saddam terrorized the Shiites and Kurds and killed countless numbers of his own people.

 Ted is very forgetful when he has a soapbox to bash the country he so despises  -- the country that left him free to build a business.

 

One More Reason

NBC and Ted Turner deserve each other.  Today's interview was one more reason not to buy Turner's book, and one more reason to skip Meet the Press.

stinker & trix (the anonymous & cowardly attackers)

For those who care to see the nature of the militant Israeli-Jews (and
their union with the dual axis of evil-the united states of america
and '?isreal' ) this report is for you. For stinker and trix,
your handle tells all we
need to know in order to assess your lack of intelligence,
predominence of insincerity and overabundance of cowardice:

The Jewish and Israeli Blog Network Begins Gratuitous Attack

The following message is delivered to Sosbee from:
http://www.israelfor...

"... here’s another class-A freakazoid, with a strange paranoid rant
about the CIA and the State Department and the FBI ... geral sosbee’s
Blog: COLLAPSE OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA....
Cue Twilight Zone theme.
(Hat tip: Adam.)"

Sosbee responds:
Now be it known that those on the so-called *"The Jewish and Israeli Blog Network"
who often decry verbal assaults on their members, begin a bizarre,
unwarranted and pre-emptive verbal attack on Geral Sosbee. This low
minded, mean spirited and ill advised move by "The Jewish and Israeli
Blog Network " is hereby documented as representative of that segment
of their closed and decadent community which seeks to intimidate,
discredit, or disparage any author who does not first pay homage to
their phoney leaders and pretentious cause. Thus, as events unfold that
tend to confirm the unholy alliance between the dual axis of evil- the
United States of America and "?Isreal"- let the above words of the
coward (perhaps the bestial fool Adam) on the 'The Jewish and Israeli
Blog Network' be the symbol of their flawed character and hopeless
depravity.

geral sosbee
(956)371-5210
_______________________________________________________________________________
* The above verbal assault begins after several visits to my reports by Israelis as reflected by the following site meter entry:

GERAL W. SOSBEE vs. fbi
By Location > Visit Detail
Country : Israel
Time of Visit Jul 8 2008 10:31:02 am
Visit Entry Page http://www.sosbeevfb...

Further, the "The Jewish and Israeli" verbal assaults are fraudulently
conceived (and presented) and politicaly motivated, as my reports are
not unlike the journals and diaries of victims of the Nazi death camps
which the world still has fresh in mind. Specifically, I document cruel
non-consensual human experimentation, torturous assaults, and attempts
at murder on my person. Few seem interested in my reports; similarly
over the last half century (or so) the world has come to learn that few
people reached out to help those in the German death and torture camps
spread across Europe; many ignored the atrocities; some even pretended
that the torture programs and mass murder did not exist; a few even
mocked or discredited those who attempted to bring the fascist
murderers and torturers into public focus. Today, the very group that
calls itself "The Jewish and Israeli" is a contradiction of its own
history by engaging in Gestapo tactics against modern day experimentees
and torture victims. As "The Jewish and Israeli Network" reveal in
their pathetic verbal assaults on this author, all are reminded that
the Israelis (& The Jewish and Israeli Network)seek to dominate and
rule the Middle East by violent and murderous methods; in this way
Jewish law and standards are thereby forged into many parts of
the world by over zealous and militant Israelis who often brag
(in their documentaries) about their abilities to identify, track down,
torture and murder their perceived enemies/adversaries globally. The
USA is seen by the Israelis as fertile ground for the indoctrination of
this populace in the area of Jewish law and standards. Anyone who is
perceived as a viable critic of the lunatic and homicidal fringe (such
as those in "The Jewish and Israeli network") is subject to verbal or
possibly murderous assault. For more on the identities of Israelis
engaged in crimes against Humanity and torture episodes do a little
research; see my article at this site dated and entitled as follows:
" WHO ARE THE DOCTORS ENGAGING IN ATROCITIES AROUND THE GLOBE ? "
18 Mar 2008 @ 18:45
Also note that the intelligence services of the Israelis and the
Americans now work together so closely that the interests of one are
inevitably shared by the other; the net result is that the two nations(
the uSA and '?Isreal') are in lockstep toward achieving the common goal
of world inhumane domination. However, the Israeli intelligence service
is light years ahead of fbi/cia and are in fact masters of the universe
with regard to techniques used to subjugate their targets.
The Israeli terrorists are funded and supplied by the United States of America.

********************************************************************************

Comrade Troll.  First, let

Comrade Troll.  First, let me thank you for proving to all and everyone that you as every bit a paranoid anti-semitic shit-heel that I thought you were.

What does ¨your handle tells all we
need to know in order to assess your lack of intelligence,
predominence of insincerity and overabundance of cowardice¨
mean? 

WTF is this collective "WE"?  The Klan?  The Aryans?  The Palestinians?  The Girl Scouts?

Let's face it Geral, old son, if you really were a fed, you are pissed off at the world because YOU got passed over for promotion.

But it's all right, pal.  Don't feel bad that the train left without you.  You can always catch up with the carnival in the next town over.

LOSER!

Liberal: a power worshipper without power. George Orwell

Trix

Trix,

When he says "we", I think he's refering to the mice in his pockets.

 

"Gov. Palin has been subjected to one of the most massive and dishonest pile-on smear attacks in the history of liberal media."  -- Lowell Ponte

Point taken, Free. This

Point taken, Free.

This schmuck is such a monkey all you have to do is wind him up and watch him go.  Sound of obnoxious tinny symbols tapping more and more slowly as the internal spring winds down.

Liberal: a power worshipper without power. George Orwell

Guys, take a look...

..at just one page of rantings by this nut. In addition to the fbi/cia playing sophmoric pranks on him, the state bar of Texas is also in on the conspiracy! He then allows two other nut cases to support him with like minded posts. Nowhere on his blog is a dissenting opinion allowed! He is not going to do too well here :-)

 

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

MM, good post.  I was

MM, good post.  I was especially amused by the "psychotronic assaults" bit.

This is one paranoid schizophrenic who should not be engaged or answered.

Liberal: a power worshipper without power. George Orwell

Thank you gsosbee

I just got home from a hard days work and needed some entertainment since I don't have tv.

You better hightail it back to the asylum though. You wouldn't want to miss your evening meds.

LOL coco... I do have

LOL coco...

I do have television, in fact watching a game in-between catching up here and doing other things... I still found his posts entertaining too.

Funny how it works that way with some posters we have here...eh? 

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Evening BT

I don't have tv by choice. My son, his wife and my two grandsons lived with me since Katrins and just moved back home four weeks ago. It was expensive having them here. I cancelled my Direct tv to put the money towards my maxed out credit cards. I find I am more productive without tv.

gosbee's post took me away from reality for a short time. He sounds like he needs a keeper, think we can get abeautifulperson to pal up with him? They seem to be a match made in the cuckoo's nest.

coco... ROFLMAO!. Coco's

coco...

ROFLMAO!.

Coco's Match.com....you just made a Perfect one there friend!

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Trix

I've seen a couple of this freak's incoherent ramblings before. What I want to know is, where are the guys with the white coats and long handled nets?! This is one batsh!t crazy dude.

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

CL3X, This paranoid

CL3X,

This paranoid anti-semite schmuck claims to be an FBI agent.  I have known a few agents and the only way this guy worked for any goverment agency was as the janitor who changes the urinal cakes in the mens' restroom.

Liberal: a power worshipper without power. George Orwell

That's charitable of you, Trix

I'd be surprised if he's capable of zipping up a janitor's coverall.
I think he sits in a puddle of drool waiting for the orderly to let him play with a keyboard.

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

Commie Ted

Turner gives the standard communist spill and the left wing democrats swoon over him. He should have had Hanoi Jane on with him. She said all he had to do was call and she would be right there. I guess the democrats will be in a race now to see if they can turn the country over to the Communist or Islam first. Hussein O will side with the Islamic crowd as he stated in his book.

Old, Retired and glad of it.

Gosh, Ted and Jane's

Gosh, Ted and Jane's conversations must have been mind-bending, bone-chilling and a perfect t.v. series for NBC.

Nothing like the looney far-left on display...trouble is, they are the enemies within as far as I am concerned. 

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Is he REALLY?

Is demenTED still running his mouth? I thought he dropped out to sex some buffalo in Montana and stayed there...

Ted Turner

He reminds me of Bernie from "Weekend at Bernie's", will somebody please finally bury this old fossil!

Thank you girls. Now back to the urgent business before us:

USA Admits To *Brain Entrainment

 

See the following sites for USA admission that the country engages in Brain Entrainment and other atrocities ( as I have reported for the past decade):

http://pittsburgh.indymedia.org/news/2009/01/30585.php

http://www.sosbeevfbi.com/part4-worldinabo.html

http://www.earthpulse.net/entrainment.htm

*
[A slogan to be remembered:
The Few, the Proud, the Brain Entraining Fiends of the US Marines.
See link in above referenced reports on "USMC_NeuronalEntrainment_NonlethalApplications"]

Having difficulties are

Having difficulties are we?  Don't worry, the people with the nice paper medicine cups will be along shortly to assist you.

Please, in the meantime do not pick up anything SHARP!

God Forgives You All For Your Ignorance, But The LD Beware:

THE LIVING DEAD

GERAL SOSBEE

Sommario:

THE LIVING DEAD IS A MODERN DAY PHENOMENA THE REPERCUSSIONS OF WHICH ARE LARGELY UNEXAMINED TO DATE.

Risorse web:

THE LIVING DEAD

(LD)

The modern day living dead are those individuals (including their silent, behind- the- scene supporters) who seek out others for torture, imprisonment and death.See:
http://www.sosbeevfbi.com/governmentmustcr.html
We the living recognize the dire circumstances confronting the heartily alive among us who are in numbers increasingly unarmed and at the same time unsuspecting of the the atrocities inherent in the current stealthy onslaught. Blind trust in government often lures the innocent into the ranks of the LD, and they are all soon obsessed with and mesmerized by one and the same pragmatic, godless and collective goal: the conquest of Mankind by a singularly hideous and destructive creed . See:
http://www.sosbeevfbi.com/mentaldwarfs.html
Many of us among the living have come to view the reality of the LD phenomena as antithetical to human dignity and contrary to the laws of divine nature, because we recognize that the LD is characterized in his vile machinations by a macabre, immoral and murderous disposition from which no quick escape is apparent; ironically the LD shares a common fate with his new recruits: no way out of the labyrinth of hell created by the decadent and disturbed mind.See:
http://www.sosbeevfbi.com/studiesonmindcon.html#mindco...
Finally, those remaining alive and strolling (on the surface placidly) amidst the turmoil created by the LD sometimes find comfort in the company of their own kind , as they welcome the inevitable return to grace offered by the heavens to the ever living and pure at heart who manage to avoid conscription into the ranks of the LD.

Ha!  I was just thinking

Ha!  I was just thinking "precious bodily essence" myself.

Perhaps he will end the same way. but hopefully without putting SAC on alert?

Sosbee!  Repeat after me:

Sosbee!  Repeat after me: "I never was an FBI agent".

Say it over and over and over until the Thorazine kicks in.

After that, keep repeating: "I am Elmer J. Fudd.  Millionaire.  I own a mansion and a yacht."

Liberal: a power worshipper without power. George Orwell

 SOOOOSSSSBBBBEEEEEEEEEEEEE

 SOOOOSSSSBBBBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Lyrics come to mind from a simpler time:

They're Coming to Take Me Away
Napoleon the 14th

Remember when you ran away
And I got on my knees and begged you
Not to go because I'd go berserk?

WELL,

You left me anyhow and
Then the days got worse and worse
And now you see I've gone completely
out of my mind,

AND

[chorus 1]
They're coming to take me away,
Haha, they're coming to take me away,
Ho ho, hee hee, ha ha,
To the funny farm
Where Life is Beautiful all the time
And I'll be happy to see
Those Nice Young Men
In their Clean White Coats
And they're coming to take me AWAY,
HA HAAAAA

You thought it was a joke,
and so you LAUGHED, YOU LAUGHED
When I had said that losing you
Would make me flip my lid,

RIGHT?

You know you laughed.
I HEARD you laugh, you laughed
And laughed and laughed
And then you left,
And now you see I'm Utterly Mad

AND

[chorus 2]
They're coming to take me away,
Haha, they're coming to take me away,
Ho ho, hee hee, ha ha,
To the Happy Home with Trees and Flowers
And Chirping Birds and basket weavers
Who sit and smile and
Twiddle their thumbs and toes
And they're coming to Take me Away,
HAHAAAAAAAAA

To the demented here(you know who you are)

To the confused minds and lost souls who qualify ( in their filthy libel and slander campaign on this message board & no doubt in other areas of their hopelessly deranged existence) for inclusion into the ranks of the Living Dead :

He deviseth mischief continually; he soweth discord. Therefore shall his calamity come suddenly; suddenly shall he be broken without remedy. These six things the Lord hates, Yes, seven are an abomination to Him:
A proud look, A lying tongue, Hands that shed innocent blood, A heart that devises wicked plans, Feet that are swift in running to evil, A false witness who speaks lies, And one who sows discord among brethren.
--Proverbs. 6:14-19

Nurse Ratchett is here with your meds.

Sosbee, old son, if you were hoping to spark a series of correspondence about hate and delusion, you might try any of the sites that are ran by the Aryans.  

They're a lot more interested in the topic and being accustomed to small words, they might make better sense of your letters.

Now, repeat after me: "I have never been an FBI agent.  I am Elmer J. Fudd.  Millionaire.  I own a mansion and a yacht."

Liberal: a power worshipper without power. George Orwell

Trix: Isn't this the guy

Trix:

Isn't this the guy who thinks we are following him around and waking him up using high frequency this or low frequency that to get revenge on him for perceived injustice?

Hahahahahahha!  Like the US government has the TIME.....  Or the desire....Hahahahahaha!

I guess I do not KNOW who

I guess I do not KNOW who they are.

But ehn again, I do not take psychotropic medication nor should I have it proscribed.