On Wednesday's Countdown show, MSNBC host Keith Olbermann attacked Jesse Helms as a "homophobe," and suggested naming a "gay-bashing organization" after the recently deceased former Republican Senator, as the MSNBC host attacked Senator Elizabeth Dole for her effort to name an AIDS funding bill in honor of Helms. Olbermann, addressing Dole as he made her a nominee for "Worst Person in the World": "Senator, you do realize that Helms opposed AIDS treatment, AIDS research, AIDS prevention. He opposed everything about AIDS except blaming the victims. And not just back in the blind panic days. As late as 2002, he blamed the disease on homosexuality. They should not name an AIDS bill after Jesse Helms. They should name a gay-bashing organization after him."
Olbermann teased his "Worst Person" segment during the show's opening: "‘Worsts' is back. Elizabeth Dole wants to name an AIDS funding bill in memory of Jesse Helms, who believed gay people deserved the disease."
During a plug before a commercial break at 8:45 p.m., the MSNBC host called Helms a "homophobe": "And in ‘Worsts,' the Senator who thinks an AIDS bill should be named after homophobe Jesse Helms."
During the show's "Worst Person in the World" segment, Olbermann awarded Dole the third place "bronze" distinction for her proposal to honor former Senator Helms:
But first, time for Countdown's number two story, tonight's "Worst Persons in the World." And the bronze to Republican Senator Elizabeth Dole of North Carolina. She's proposed an amendment to a current HIV/AIDS funding bill in the Senate which would name it in honor of her late predecessor, Jesse Helms. Senator, you do realize that Helms opposed AIDS treatment, AIDS research, AIDS prevention. He opposed everything about AIDS except blaming the victims. And not just back in the blind panic days. As late as 2002, he blamed the disease on homosexuality. They should not name an AIDS bill after Jesse Helms. They should name a gay-bashing organization after him.
By contrast, on the July 4 CBS Evening News, Bob Schieffer observed: "Late in life, he struck an unlikely friendship with the rock star Bono, and joined Bono's fights against AIDS in Africa and Third World debt."
—Brad Wilmouth is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.
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Olbie is one useless idiot
July 16, 2008 - 23:52 ET by bigtimerOlbie is one useless hateful idiot that I cannot wait to see gone from this planet...
Beam him up Scottie...the sooner the better...
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Olbermiester: Rising to new heights of absurdity...
July 17, 2008 - 08:44 ET by goldenthroatHow much more hate, cheap shots and character assasination will PMSNBC allow this moron to spew out of his disgusting mouth?
And they wonder why Olbermiester's ratings are in the sub-basement?
"How can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all?" - Firesign Theatre
whattya expect from a
July 17, 2008 - 09:25 ET by TruthMongerwhattya expect from a closet gay heterophobe
Bono
July 17, 2008 - 00:02 ET by Dr_LibertyI thought Bono died in a skiing accident.
Olberman started out doing sports on a local news affiliate in L.A. where he was horrible then. Then he got his political schtick, which was worse. And now he is back to doing football commentary. Definitely a candidate for worst, and not the German brat kind.
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→ You're righ Dr_Liberty
July 17, 2008 - 00:09 ET by Cool ArrowHe died playng football on skis with Michael Kennedy in 1997, didn't he?
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Wrong Bono
July 17, 2008 - 07:11 ET by EllisWyattYou're thinking of Sonny Bono, who was Cher's husband and performing partner, as well as a Congressman from California. They are speaking of Bono, lead singer for the band U2.
If you're not outraged at the media, you haven't been paying attention.
or maybe bono the
July 17, 2008 - 09:26 ET by TruthMongeror maybe bono the clown?
or lisa bono from the cosby show?
Sounds like Elizabeth
July 17, 2008 - 00:09 ET by ConservativeRexSounds like Elizabeth struck a nerve with Olby the idiot. Hey Olby, did she hit a little too close to home for you?
Why do liberals promote homosexuality?
July 17, 2008 - 01:35 ET by garyganuI do not understand why the liberals are so eager to celebrate and embrace homosexuality. In my opinion, the only time homosexuality is harmful, is when it is presented to children and the public, as a normal, acceptable lifestyle to be proud of, it is not. That is a deception put forth by today's homosexual activists, schools, universities, the arts and the mainstream media. They do this under the banner of diversity. All forms of diversity are not necessarily positive, normal and healthy. Today's popular culture is celebrating many forms of diversity that are negative, abnormal and unhealthy. Some examples are the gangster culture, teenage promiscuity, casual sex, rap music and satanism which mocks Christianity. In today's popular culture anything that is abnormal, weird, negative or wrong is considered cool. Homosexuality is actually being portrayed as cool by today's media and the arts. At the same time, the intact monogamous family is considered square. They are sending out the exact wrong message. Today's children are being so confused that they no longer can tell the difference between right and wrong, good from bad, strengths from weaknesses and normal from abnormal. It is no wonder that we are seeing our families, values, cultural strengths and society decay before our very eyes.
Anyhow, those are my views on homosexuality.
Don't forget AIDS is their
July 17, 2008 - 07:47 ET by kgDon't forget AIDS is their gift to the world.
"Forget change, I want improvement!"
Don't forget AIDS is their
July 17, 2008 - 07:55 ET by JasonCDon't forget AIDS is their gift to the world.
Wow, did we just travel back to 1985? AIDS did not originate with gay people; their preferred method of intercourse simply happens to be more conducive to transmission.
"Issue-driven politics in red-and-blue America is like a man whose
appetite for steak is greatly enhanced by his contempt for vegetarians."
Yeah
July 17, 2008 - 09:45 ET by jquamThere's nothing cool about homosexuality. It is a myth...a child's bedtime story. The fact that these men and women are allowed to go forth and destroy our society just blows my mind. I remember a few years back (in the good ole days, mind you) and one of the "square" not-gay kids (there are certainly fewer of them nowadays...haha) at my brother's school beat the shit out of him simply because my brother's brother happened to be gay. Now I don't know about y'all, but being a stand-out bigot is what we should celebrate. Right, right...
i think you're confusing
July 17, 2008 - 11:35 ET by treshani think you're confusing "cool" with "tolerant." i have never met anyone that was "persuaded" to a homosexual lifestyle from watching tv. Do you prefer the other gender because you were told to? If so, I feel sorry for your ability to be manipulated. And since when is Satanism en vogue? I haven't even heard the word in 10 years, and I don't think its a real tour de force in society at the moment.
Frederick Bastiat
July 17, 2008 - 01:10 ET by Lakewood BobIn 1850 Bastiat published his essays on "The Law", and everyone would do well for themselves to read these essays. I am sure that Jesse Helms had read them. In a section entitled "A Confusion of Terms" Bastiat explains that "Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialist concludes that we object to its being done at all." Bastiat was a wise man, and I believe that Helms was also. Keith O. obviously is not! Jesse Helms was a principled American, and we desperately need more like him in government.
It's nice to see Keith is
July 17, 2008 - 01:27 ET by fitzfongIt's nice to see Keith is still taking himself so seriously...since no one else is.
"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Reagan
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Olbermann is the perfect picture...
July 17, 2008 - 01:52 ET by Parker1227...of the angry, intolerant left.
MSNBC actually allows this twit to pretend to be a reporter.
Both MSNBC and Olbermann are a disgrace to journalism. Pravda comes to mind.
McCain won't destroy this great country - Obama will. Vote McCain - no matter how much it hurts.
I think Olbermanic is more
July 17, 2008 - 08:16 ET by JerryI think Olbermanic is more like Baghdad Bob, only much angrier and less believable. At least BB had personality.
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
I love how you refer to the
July 17, 2008 - 09:03 ET by daberkmanI love how you refer to the intolerant left where like 3 comments above you someone says about gays:
Don't forget AIDS is their gift to the world.
Exactly! The way they
July 17, 2008 - 09:29 ET by Cureboy675Exactly! The way they contradict themselves tickles me. But just you watch. Somebody will inevitably counter with "Its not considered hatred if what we are saying is a fact!"
Keithamphetimine....
July 17, 2008 - 02:13 ET by AgentAmericanKeith was, is and always be a neurotic egotistical self-absorbed Wal-Mart sack of monkey sh*t.
Drill ANWAR
Since there is no such word
July 17, 2008 - 02:23 ET by cocodrieSince there is no such word as homophobe, can we start calling him a heterophobe or maybe an intellegenceophobe? We can make up words too.
Better yet a
July 17, 2008 - 03:41 ET by taterBetter yet a loveophobe...since all he does is spew hate and fear.
www.theholyrosary.org
"There is no problem, I tell you, no matter how difficult it is, that we can not resolve by the prayer of the Holy Rosary." -Sister Lucia
Or truth-o-phobe,
July 17, 2008 - 08:23 ET by JerryOr truth-o-phobe, fact-o-phobe, common-sense-o-phobe, sanity-o-phobe, character-o-phobe, objectivity-o-phobe, morals-o-phobe, and most probably, a Christ-o-phobe.
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
Since there is no such word
July 17, 2008 - 07:52 ET by JasonCSince there is no such word as homophobe...
That is incorrect, and seems to be a widely-believed enthymeme in conservative circles, where people often want to criticize or belittle homosexuals but become rattled when that criticism is characterized in a certain way.
Semantics aside, this much is true: both nouns homophobia and homophobe are proper, idiomatic English words, and you might note that neither one is considered slang. Now, we could surely get into a rousing prescriptivist vs. descriptivist debate concerning psycholinguistics and modern usage, but these are, I'm afraid, existing words. I've seen people with anti-gay sentiment try to dispute their meaning/implication, but this is the first claim I've seen that they do not exist. Very interesting.
"Issue-driven politics in red-and-blue America is like a man whose
appetite for steak is greatly enhanced by his contempt for vegetarians."
heterophobe is official
July 17, 2008 - 09:29 ET by TruthMongerheterophobe is official then! thanks J
KO is the charter member, congrats KO
Yep, I concur. Heterophobe
July 17, 2008 - 09:56 ET by bradbenj5952Yep, I concur. Heterophobe should be made an official word. Somebody call dictionary.com to let them know.
First of all, myself and other believers do not have homophobia. We do not fear Sodomites. Rather, we have theophobia. That is, we fear God. And what saith the Lord God about the "life style" being promoted and defended by the left?
"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Neither
shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither
shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is
confusion." Leviticus 18:22 & 23
There is nothing new under the sun.
"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." Acts 16:31
Hey that's cool and all
July 17, 2008 - 10:00 ET by jquamBut not everybody lives by your standards...you have a book...awesome...I own some Vonnegut.
...and you will remember on
July 17, 2008 - 10:06 ET by bradbenj5952...and you will remember on that day that you stand before the "Judge of all the earth", it was your choice.
"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." Acts 16:31
Sure
July 17, 2008 - 10:10 ET by jquamCertainly....it's my choice to mock your reading habits. Not a choice to be gay...only a blessing.
"Not a choice to be
July 17, 2008 - 10:41 ET by Clear thinker"Not a choice to be gay...only a blessing."
You need therapy.
45 Communist Goals for America http://www.nationmakers.com/com_goals.htm
Good idea. Please go to
July 17, 2008 - 10:48 ET by Cureboy675Good idea. Please go to the Yellow Pages and find me a therapist that teaches one how to hate themselves and be ashamed of themselves. I'm sure they are in great abundance and have quite a number of referrals.
when you learn to love
July 17, 2008 - 10:52 ET by TruthMongerwhen you learn to love yourself - you'll stop doing gay stuff
wish you well with that
and I'm here to help:)
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brad-wilmouth/2008/07/17/olbermann-slams-homophobe-jesse-helms#comment-662531
cb...
July 17, 2008 - 10:52 ET by Clear thinkerI can only hope that someday you will understand.
45 Communist Goals for America http://www.nationmakers.com/com_goals.htm
That is not the therapist he
July 17, 2008 - 10:52 ET by bassndudeThat is not the therapist he was speaking of. But if that is what is needed, I can do the ashamed and hate yourself thing for ya.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Well you go right ahead.
July 17, 2008 - 11:01 ET by Cureboy675Well you go right ahead. Others have tried and it just really hasn't done much good. But if you the need the busy work, you go right ahead. Me? I'd just rather to do the Soduko or something.
Good luck with that. Have a good time. Buy me a present.
not a choice?!?!? so
July 17, 2008 - 10:48 ET by TruthMongernot a choice?!?!?
so you've been forced to have gay sex?
must have been for some public school science class
→ Call the cops
July 17, 2008 - 11:01 ET by Cool ArrowThere's laws against forced sex, ain't there?
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quite a few:)
July 17, 2008 - 11:03 ET by TruthMongerquite a few:)
No force needed (if you know what I mean)
July 17, 2008 - 11:20 ET by jquamIf being gay is a choice and not natural...then every man at some point makes this choice...which means every man at some point has to wonder if they want to have gay sex. Now I don't think every man has thought about sleeping with men and made one choice or another...because I've never thought about sleeping with women. Never needed to...I was never attracted to them.
So think what you will....but the more you say it's a choice, the more I just think you think about gay sex. Especially the forced kind TruthMonger. Ouch, it hurts so good.
Think Well.
Speak for yourself,
July 17, 2008 - 11:30 ET by Cureboy675Speak for yourself, jquam. When you turn 17, the government sends out a form where you have to pick whether or not you want to be gay or straight. Yours undoubtedly got lost in the mail.
I got the form. Weighed the pros and the cons. I mean, here I was, a young healthy white male. Nothing stopping me. I could be president someday if I wanted. But that just wouldn't do. I needed *something* to hold me back. Something that could label me as sick or diseased or in need of therapy.
Bingo! I checked the "gay" box, threw out the Penthouse magazine I had stashed under my mattress, and I never looked back.
dude you rock now if we
July 17, 2008 - 11:34 ET by TruthMongerdude you rock
now if we could just get the peds to do this as well
they deserve equal rights too dammit
free toaster
July 17, 2008 - 11:34 ET by AgnosticIs it true you get a free toaster for recruiting an new gay to your movement? Hey, it worked on Ellen.
<sarc>
all my gay friends got one
July 17, 2008 - 11:41 ET by TruthMongerall my gay friends got one
They finally upped the
July 17, 2008 - 11:41 ET by Cureboy675They finally upped the reward to a trip to Branson, Missouri. And its about time they gave us some better recognition. The sheer number of man hours involved in brainwashing somebody over to our side...It takes time. But naked pictures of Bea Arthur seems to speed up the process.
Bea Arthur?
July 17, 2008 - 11:46 ET by AgnosticThere is your problem if you want to convert conservatives try naked pictures of Helen Thomas or Janet Reno. Not that Bea Arthur isn't liberal enough but they show Golden Girls on The Family Channel and there is the immunity factor.
will and grace was a damn
July 17, 2008 - 11:46 ET by TruthMongerwill and grace was a damn fine help
brokeback mountain was groovy
and all of the other pro-gay story lines in thousands of other films, tv shows, books, songs
pro-gay churches
HR policies and insurance supporting gay partners
annual Pride festivals
judges overturning laws to support the gay lifestyle, and marriage
but it is too bad you don't get more help
→ Bea Arthur
July 17, 2008 - 11:47 ET by Cool ArrowYou got the cheap package (so to speak).
The holdouts got to see K.D. Lang.
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you don't think bea is a
July 17, 2008 - 11:50 ET by TruthMongeryou don't think bea is a damn sexy guy?
he's dishy
→ No Truthie
July 17, 2008 - 11:55 ET by Cool ArrowHe's a little old for my proclivities
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there's just no accounting
July 17, 2008 - 12:01 ET by TruthMongerthere's just no accounting for closet gay taste is there
naught queer as folk
i do think about it all the
July 17, 2008 - 11:32 ET by TruthMongeri do think about it all the time...!
and also the ped thing...
this guy's good people
Finally! I was wondering
July 17, 2008 - 11:36 ET by Cureboy675Finally! I was wondering how long it would take for somebody to bring back that old cherished standby: The pedo comparison. You know, comparing two consenting adults to the victimization of a child.
Now just trot out the beastiality thing, and for a little variety, maybe we can try something new....Like sex with a blow-up doll.
absolutely - all
July 17, 2008 - 11:40 ET by TruthMongerabsolutely - all conceivable sexual deviency (it's only fair - we don't want to discriminate, right:)?
let's get er all on the table and see what happens
→ Keep it up
July 17, 2008 - 11:54 ET by Cool ArrowMaybe if we concentrate on making every thread about "homosexuality - choice or biology?" it will be recognized as a matter of belief. From there it's just a hop and a skip over to calling it a religion, and voilla! No more gay chat at NB.
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How very Rube Goldberg of
July 17, 2008 - 12:08 ET by Cureboy675How very Rube Goldberg of you.
Instead of all that subterfuge, if you find "gay chat" bothersome, it might even be easier to just simply ignore it.
actually, i think he's
July 17, 2008 - 12:13 ET by TruthMongeractually, i think he's saying that free and open discussion is a good thing
but becoming more and more difficult on NB every day:)
DP
July 17, 2008 - 11:21 ET by jquamDP
That is a fun book.
July 17, 2008 - 10:37 ET by Cureboy675That is a fun book. Fantastic opening number. God creates the earth and light all within six days. Flashy! Of course, the nitpickers will tell you that the Earth actually formed about 4 billion years ago. Then, apparently God sat around for about 3.9 billion years until he realized he forgot to do the whole Adam and Eve thing. But first he decided to have a go with dinosaurs. And when that didn't work out as planned, he waited another 65 million years and then went with the Adam and Eve thing. Of course, those scenes made it to the cutting room floor and don't appear in the book.
So we just need to wait until the Official Bible Companion Guide (TM) that tells us definitively which passages we should take literally as the word of God and which passages were just kind of made up by over-enthusiastic interns who worked on the Bible project 2000 years ago.
the Good book
July 17, 2008 - 10:49 ET by TruthMongeri love easy questions
i take them all literally:)
So it really did only six
July 17, 2008 - 10:57 ET by Cureboy675So it really did only six days to create the world. Not all that nonsense about how gases expanded after the birth of our sun and over millions of years they slowly cooled and coalesced into chunks of matter that eventually formed our planet. I stand corrected.
Those mischevous scientists. They'll make up any kind of foolishness to appear on The Discovery Channel.
tell me aboutthat
July 17, 2008 - 11:42 ET by TruthMongertell me about it
that ridiculous evolution thing alone gets all kinds of press
"The words of the LORD are
July 17, 2008 - 10:52 ET by bradbenj5952"The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever." Psalms 12:6 & 7
Apparently, God is the only editor His word requires.
"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." Acts 16:31
Defending Your Book Using Your Book
July 17, 2008 - 11:05 ET by jquamBrilliant...Now I could defend my views with more of my views (and as many people here know, I do like to do that) but that doesn't seem to help...defending the bible with the bible doesn't mean anything when your opponents already don't care what it says.
Think Well.
Brilliant...you have just
July 17, 2008 - 11:27 ET by bradbenj5952Brilliant...you have just stumbled upon one of the greatest truths of all time. God's word validates itself. It doesn't need a bible companion guide or any such thing. The sure word of prophecy which precisely decribes today's "culture" and events prove that its Author really does know all things.
"Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying,
Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep,
all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they
willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of
old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: But the heavens
and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store,
reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly
men." 2 Peter 3:3-7
"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." Acts 16:31
Possibly
July 17, 2008 - 11:50 ET by AgnosticIf you have faith.
we all have faith in
July 17, 2008 - 11:59 ET by TruthMongerwe all have faith in something
and it's all we have
faith is important
July 18, 2008 - 02:45 ET by AgnosticI believe I know what you mean by "it's all we have" but to many of us that don't have our faith based in religous beliefs that phrase seems a bit over-the-top. Within most religions gods grants you many gifts on the earth and to say all you have is faith sounds like you are turning your back on those gifts in a form of fanatical devotion.
I am thinking that the meaning behind your phrase is something more along the lines of everything comes through faith or faith comes first and leads to the acceptance and appreciation of Gods gifts on earth but I could be wrong.
by jove he does get it:)
July 17, 2008 - 11:48 ET by TruthMongerby jove he does get it:)
watch your step
July 17, 2008 - 11:06 ET by TruthMongerwatch your step dude
NB religous police are watching
The edict was concerning
July 17, 2008 - 11:21 ET by bradbenj5952The edict was concerning attacking other people's religions. Therefore, if I stick to just quoting scripture without naming any religious organizations, I should be safe from banishment. ;)
"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." Acts 16:31
famous last words you
July 17, 2008 - 11:25 ET by TruthMongerfamous last words
you would think so
unless a another new edict pops up like a weed
happens quite a bit around here:)
Well that God can certainly
July 17, 2008 - 11:09 ET by Cureboy675Well that God can certainly spin a tall tale.
Psychiatrists do say that the most convincing delusions are the ones that are constructed and defined in such a way where contradicting proof cannot possibly be obtained.
It must be true if a third party tells us that God said it was true.
walking on
July 17, 2008 - 11:21 ET by TruthMongerwalking on water
miraculously healing the sick
raising the dead
it's all right up there with global warming/cooling/climate-change/whatever
crazy stuff man
I know. Those were some
July 17, 2008 - 11:24 ET by Cureboy675I know. Those were some nifty tricks. Imagine, never having to worry about a big puddle ruining your shoes. We need to bring that back.
the great thing is it never
July 17, 2008 - 11:27 ET by TruthMongerthe great thing is it never goes away:)
just gets ignored once in a while...
did you do anything for the Pride fest in June?
→ Cureboy
July 17, 2008 - 12:10 ET by Cool ArrowTry taking your shoes off during sex. Less chance of the puddle getting al over them.
Just a thought.
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:) (image
July 17, 2008 - 12:17 ET by TruthMonger:)
(image delete)
(wipe coffee off monitor)
(replace keyboard)
Um. Yeah. Thanks.
July 17, 2008 - 12:22 ET by Cureboy675Um. Yeah. Thanks.
Cureboy, I notice you
July 17, 2008 - 12:02 ET by KarmaCureboy,
I notice you capitalize God and Him when appropriate. Do you do this out of respect for the majority reading your posts or is it because you think there may be that outside chance that He does exsist?
No harm done either way, correct?
Now, about that sarcastic tone about Him...
Truthfully. I do believe
July 17, 2008 - 12:21 ET by Cureboy675Truthfully. I do believe there is a God. But not a God belonging to any religion. I don't think there is a God telling Christian people one thing, Jewish people another thing, Muslims something else, Hindus something else and so on. I do not believe God sat a bunch of scribes down 2000 years ago and said, "OK. Got a pencil? I need to tell you a few things" I believe religions are philosophies.
But I do believe there is a God. And I pray to Him sometimes and I don't think He hates me or thinks I am an abomination. And that way of thinking is my own particular philosophy.
those are some nice
July 17, 2008 - 12:27 ET by TruthMongerthose are some nice thoughts I think
I'm a Christian fundie
my God love you alot, and so do I
Thank you. That warms my
July 17, 2008 - 12:37 ET by Cureboy675Thank you. That warms my heart to the point of limitless joy.
now that's more like it -
July 17, 2008 - 13:14 ET by TruthMongernow that's more like it - we be friends now
(big hug)
praise Jesus
→ Excellent Truthie
July 17, 2008 - 14:59 ET by Cool ArrowBTW, my cockles are warmed. Can I join in?
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a 3-way virtual guy
July 17, 2008 - 15:05 ET by TruthMongera 3-way virtual guy hug?!!
as if you even have to ask!!!
"We have also a more sure
July 17, 2008 - 13:58 ET by bradbenj5952"We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye
take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day
dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost." 2 Peter 1:19-21
"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." Leviticus 18:22
You have created a god in you own mind after your own image.
"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." Acts 16:31
Honestly, repeating Bible
July 17, 2008 - 14:47 ET by Cureboy675Honestly, repeating Bible passages over and over and over isn't really going to move me. Like I said, I believe the Bible reflects the philosophies of those who wrote it. I don't agree with those philosophies. So your reaction to continue to post even more of those philosophies puzzles me.
But who knows? Maybe you're just trying out the cut & paste utility on a new computer or something.
"For this cause God gave
July 17, 2008 - 15:06 ET by bradbenj5952"For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their
women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise
also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their
lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly,
and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was
meet." Romans 1:26 & 27
The most unfortunate event of any person's life is when "God gives them up". Perhaps this has already happened to you and that is why you harden your heart against the Word of God. Look carefully at the passage above to see why God gave them up.
"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." Acts 16:31
Well bingo! That did
July 17, 2008 - 15:26 ET by Cureboy675Well bingo! That did it. You found the one passage in the entire Bible that would make me realize the whole book is dead-on accurate and that I should re-evaluate and change my entire life.
I'm sold.
and you get a free
July 17, 2008 - 15:46 ET by TruthMongerand you get a free toaster!
well said! no one loves
July 17, 2008 - 10:42 ET by TruthMongerwell said!
no one loves homos more than a Christian fundie:)!
we're the only ones who seem to care about their sexual health anymore
very sad
it's a cruel uncaring liberal world out there
No one loves
July 17, 2008 - 11:09 ET by jquamWell said TM...being that I lost my virginity to a supposedly "straight" christian fundie...I'm absolutely certain you're right.
Think Well.
jquam...
July 17, 2008 - 11:14 ET by Clear thinkerThanks for proving a long held theory of mine.... it's all about the easy sex, nothing more.
45 Communist Goals for America http://www.nationmakers.com/com_goals.htm
Well shoot. If it was
July 17, 2008 - 11:21 ET by Cureboy675Well shoot. If it was defined by easy sex. Then Wilt Chamberlain should be the grand marshall of the gay parade next year. How many women did he sleep with? 20,000?
could be more! yowza
July 17, 2008 - 11:24 ET by TruthMongercould be more! yowza
Wilt chose woman! 45
July 17, 2008 - 11:26 ET by Clear thinkerWilt chose woman!
45 Communist Goals for America http://www.nationmakers.com/com_goals.htm
well it was easy for him
July 17, 2008 - 11:30 ET by TruthMongerwell it was easy for him dude
he was born heterosexual
I know! And it blows my
July 17, 2008 - 12:04 ET by Cureboy675I know! And it blows my mind!
The man was able to have easy sex *and* was able to choose to be straight...Concurrently!! If only he'd share his secrets. How did he pull it off? It is the secret dream of every last gay person. Because laying down with mankind gets old sometimes. I wouldn't mind laying down with womankind instead.
Imagine. Being able to have easy sex and not worry about whether I'll suffer the torments of the damned for all eternity. Tis very appealing!
fairly soon you can do a
July 17, 2008 - 12:19 ET by TruthMongerfairly soon you can do a robot - any time ya want
it can go in your den - next to the stair-master
and in about 10 years I'm guessing you can even marry it
Think About It
July 17, 2008 - 12:59 ET by jquamPolygamy, homosexuality, ped., beastiality and soon robots...TM...you'll finally get to marry that robot Man, Woman, Child, and Goat you always talk about. I only hope they can provide you with the love and support you need. Just the thought is bringing a tear to my eye. OOOoooh, I'm so excited for you.
Think Well.
as a Christian fundie,
July 17, 2008 - 13:06 ET by TruthMongeras a Christian fundie, polygamy's the only kosher thing for me on yer list
that's plenty for me anyways:)
(spits tobaccy)
But but but
July 17, 2008 - 13:11 ET by jquamyou're always talking about the others. don't go and ruin your own dreams TM. I'm not sure who suddenly made you ashamed of your own agenda...but you need to stick to it. Never forget...robot goats.
Think Well.
are you confused dude my
July 17, 2008 - 13:16 ET by TruthMongerare you confused dude
my agenda is God's agenda
I'm ashamed of my sinful self not God's agenda
and God's agenda is that I care about others
get your ass to a Bible study quick
OOOOHHHHH
July 17, 2008 - 13:42 ET by jquamOk. God's agenda. Well...you might want to find some new conversation starters if you have God's agenda. You sort come off like a one-trick pony. Nobody likes a pony with only one trick.
Think Well.
nobody? wow, I know
July 17, 2008 - 13:48 ET by TruthMongernobody?
wow, I know millions of nobodies:)
Reminds me of a FZ
July 17, 2008 - 13:56 ET by general companyReminds me of a FZ song
Joe:
This is exciting
I never plooked
A tiny chrome-plated
machine
That looks like a
magical pig
With marital aids
stuck all over it
Such as yourself
before
Sy Borg:
You'll love it!
It's a way of life.
Joe:
Does that mean
maybe later
You'll plook me...
Sy Borg:
If you wish, we may
have a groovy orgy
Joe:
Just me and you?
Sy Borg:
I share this apartment
With a modified
Gay Bob doll
He goes all the way...
Ever try oral sex with
a miniature rubberized
homo-replica?
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
it's catchy!
July 17, 2008 - 14:40 ET by TruthMongerit's catchy!
You bumbling booby!
July 17, 2008 - 13:24 ET by KarmaI always wondered about these two. I think the good Dr. kept a box of spare naughty parts for the Tin-Plated Tattletale under his bed.
Ohh the pain...
Just because I
July 17, 2008 - 11:27 ET by jquamand many many straight people out there are comfortable sexually. Doesn't mean it's about easy sex. The point was on hypocrisy. Hy-po-cri-sy...preaching one belief, while not holding it yourself. Now I know you probably knew the word...but we all have our slow days now and then.
Think Well.
news flash Christians are
July 17, 2008 - 11:29 ET by TruthMongernews flash
Christians are just as hypocritical as any human being
being human beings themselves and all ya see
so true, Christian ain't
July 17, 2008 - 11:23 ET by TruthMongerso true, Christian ain't perfect:)
just forgiven
He's a homosexual idiot
July 17, 2008 - 04:16 ET by philgressI heard that indeed Olbermann's a homosexual himself.
Can you imagine a woman putting up with his garbage?
(Well...maybe Hillary!)
Phil from San Diego
or John Edwards could
July 17, 2008 - 09:29 ET by TruthMongeror John Edwards could probably do it
she's very agreeable
Why is AIDS/HIV such a
July 17, 2008 - 04:34 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsWhy is AIDS/HIV such a priority to so many when it doesn't even rank a mention on the list of top ten killer diseases. Why do we spend so much money (more than heart disease) on this?
D
Keep the ILLEGALS out, join NumbersUSA to send free faxes to your reps.
It is a puzzle DFTT.
July 17, 2008 - 04:46 ET by Jack BauerIt is a puzzle DFTT.
For instance, something like 22,000 Americans will die annually from AIDs, while 350,000 die of Diabetes and diabetes related conditions at the same time.
(Can I be controversial and say, it's no fun to die of anything. That dying of AIDs and Diabetes are equally devestating for ther families left behind. And I wouldn't wish either on anyone.)
BUT ...Diabetes is only #6, I believe, on things that will kill you in the US annually.
Yet AIDs receives, I have read, something like 97 times the amount of research funds, in releation to terms of its miniscule threat, than does cancer funding.
It is all so puzzling that this mainly homosexual/druggie lifestyle disease gets so much attention in the media and in Hollywood.
I just can't figure it out.
Senators on AIDS and Budgets
July 17, 2008 - 04:59 ET by AgnosticSenator Obama (one of the originators) and Senator McCain are both backing a bill to increase PEPFAR's budget from $15 billion to $50 billion in an effort to combat AIDS worldwide.
A billion here - a billion there - we are starting to spend some real money. How many years at $50b before we reach the cost of the WOT?
http://www.smallgovt...
the WOT actually saves us
July 17, 2008 - 09:31 ET by TruthMongerthe WOT actually saves us money by preventing a very expensive WW3:)...
TM,
July 17, 2008 - 09:41 ET by AgnosticPossibly, I guess I still had the article in mind about the "life long republican" voting for Obama stating the cost of the WOT was much higher than the social policies that Obama and a Democrat Congress would create.
well there's your
July 17, 2008 - 11:38 ET by TruthMongerwell there's your clue
"life long republican" in the MSM world actually means moderate democrat
You mentioned the two most important facts JB
July 17, 2008 - 06:46 ET by HeavyChevyHomosexual and Hollywood. If this was a primarily heterosexual disease amongst conservatives this would be a non-issue. A matter a fact the libs would probably say "let them all die and let their "God" sort them out."
while 350,000 die of
July 17, 2008 - 07:21 ET by DontFeedTheTrollswhile 350,000 die of Diabetes
Actually that number is about 75,000 in the USA, check the link above. It may be 350,000 worldwide though.
D
Keep the ILLEGALS out, join NumbersUSA to send free faxes to your reps.
Apologies, my fault as I
July 17, 2008 - 09:06 ET by Jack BauerApologies, my fault as I should have been more specific.
I meant directly from diabetes PLUS all other outcomes of diabetes which causes complications leading to stroke, heart disease, et al. That figure was about 350,000 in, from memory, 2006.
Doesn't invalidate my inferred point, of course. Diabetes is a relentlessly nasty condition that seems to be grossly under-funded in relation to AIDs.
another easily preventable
July 17, 2008 - 09:32 ET by TruthMongeranother easily preventable disease - abortion
over 1 million die annually in the US alone
I don't know this for sure,
July 17, 2008 - 07:58 ET by JasonCI don't know this for sure, so please don't interpret it as rhetorical aggression, but in terms of death by disease, isn't Diabetes relatively controllable? AIDS has all those antiretroviral pills (which many victims can't afford), but the disease is still basically a death sentence. Is it not true that a combination of proper diet and insulin injections can basically allow a diabetic to live a regular life?
"Issue-driven politics in red-and-blue America is like a man whose
appetite for steak is greatly enhanced by his contempt for vegetarians."
Yes, diabetes can be
July 17, 2008 - 08:30 ET by JerryYes, diabetes can be controlled, but keeping the blood sugar regulated is quite a balancing act, and damage to internal organs is just a matter of time. In the same vein, isn't Aids the most preventable?
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
"AIDS has all those
July 17, 2008 - 09:06 ET by ckc1227"AIDS has all those antiretroviral pills (which many victims can't
afford), but the disease is still basically a death sentence. Is it not
true that a combination of proper diet and insulin injections can
basically allow a diabetic to live a regular life?"\
But there's one fundamental difference: AIDs is nearly 100% preventable. No need to buy expensive drugs to prolong life. All it takes is a 99 cent condom. Yet, even today, many refuse to take this one simple step to save their own lives.
We already have the cure. It's called prevention. If people stopped sharing needles and unprotected penises, the disease would virtually disappear. If people(gay or straight) refuse to take these steps, eventually, they may reap what they sow. That's why they aren't AIDS victims.
the reason why
July 17, 2008 - 09:06 ET by daberkmanIt doesn't appear on the list is because you don't die of AIDS. It's an "Immune Deficiency" disease. Meaning, having it makes you exponentially more susceptible to contracting diseases. Hence, people with AIDS die of cancer, influenza/pneumonia etc. these statistics don't address that: http://www.cdc.gov/n...
They're actually kind of irrelevant.
That's a debatable point
July 17, 2008 - 09:15 ET by Jack BauerThat's a debatable point for which I am not remotely qualified to argue. I am just alluding to the politics of "disease" and the figures.
Everything is rationed in life. There isn't a bottomless bucket of researchers and funds to spread around infinitely. Why should a disease that affects so few get a disproportionate amount of the bucket.
It's interesting to speculate on.
How is it debatable?
July 17, 2008 - 09:28 ET by daberkmanWait, are you debating whether or not AIDS acts as an immune deficiency catalyst? Because, really, you can't. It's not a debatable point. It's how the disease works. If you're not remotely qualified to argue that and believe it's debatable then how do you accept anything? Like, I know how photosynthesis works but I'm not sure of the specifics of it, so is that a debatable point? Like, "well, maybe the plants get their energy from the sun. But who knows? Maybe they also go to the store. I don't know. I just can't say..."
More irrelevant blathering.
July 17, 2008 - 11:35 ET by Jack BauerMore irrelevant blathering. Care to address my point that AIDs/HIV spending is GROSSLY out of proportion to the numbers who of those who will contract the disaese.
Or can all you manage to scribble is a great big mountain of sweet FA? If not, shove it because yoyu are not adding any points of interest. Well not to me.
As it happens I said I was not qualified to talk about diabetes. Not being a doctor. Are you?
Your point of overspending
July 17, 2008 - 11:36 ET by daberkmanwas predicated (if you don't know the meaning of the word, just make one up) on the belief that few people "died of AIDS" (which, unless we're in pretend-world, isn't actually how people die. Again, it's the immune deficiency that allows people to die). You are saying that few people "die of AIDS" compared to the amount of attention it gets. I have no idea, as this isn't actually even an argument. If you are trying to say the amount of people who have AIDS and thus are susceptible to the immune deficiency diseases is low proportional to the amount of funding and attention it gets, then I guess I have no idea what the numbers are on that. But I'll expect you'll make up some soon enough.
Go argue with the CDC.
July 17, 2008 - 11:54 ET by Jack BauerGo argue with the CDC. Because it is their statistics of those who die with AIDs
I find your point about people not actually "dying" of "AIDs" to be remarkably uninteresting and pointless. Rather like arguing about how many angels can stand on the head of a needle.
Where you always a supercilious twat, or did it come to you like a bolt from the blue.
If you don't know what "twat" means, look it up in something literate people call a "dictionary."
well
July 17, 2008 - 11:57 ET by daberkmanI won't look up twat. But: I will pretend to, make up a defintion, and when I get called on it, I will proceed to call the person who did the fact-checking a twat.
Wait, do you just make stuff up?
July 17, 2008 - 10:50 ET by daberkmanYou wrote: "For instance, something like 22,000 Americans will die annually from
AIDs, while 350,000 die of Diabetes and diabetes related conditions at
the same time."
What do you mean by "for instance?" Like, if for instance I made a number up? Because that 22,000 number just, it's not even conceptually a made up number. People don't die of "AIDS". So, the statistic may be how many people die WITH aids, or how many people die with aids who have an unusual disease that is normally indicative of an immune-deficiency system, but for you to just kind of state, "Welll....22000 people in the US die of AIDS" sort of shows you just make stuff up. Do you? Or did you just post this info incorrectly or something?
Pathetic dumbass comment.
July 17, 2008 - 11:28 ET by Jack BauerPathetic dumbass comment. Truly braindead.
What's your point a-hole?
my point is
July 17, 2008 - 11:33 ET by daberkmanYou are just making stuff up. I am not. You are pretending to know something about AIDS and be an authority on it. You don't. so you make stuff up. Then you just make up statistics. That, my good sir, is braindead. I'm just hoping people don't confuse your posturing of knowledge with the impression that you're anything other than a guy who makes stuff up. Which is funny, quite frankly.
I have made NOTHING up, as
July 17, 2008 - 11:43 ET by Jack BauerI have made NOTHING up, as you so erroneously babble about. MADE WHAT UP?
Answer my point. AND NAME WHAT I HAVE MADE UP. I will admit that I was mistaken from memory about the last figures, which are 6000 less than my figure
To quote you exactly:
July 17, 2008 - 11:44 ET by daberkman"For instance, something like 22,000 Americans will die annually from
AIDs, while 350,000 die of Diabetes and diabetes related conditions at
the same time."
Do you think because you said, "something like" you can just make up a number afterwards? Because there's no statistic or anything AT ALL that would ever suggest 22,000 people die of AIDS. Again, according to science, which according to you is debatable, people don't die of AIDS. People who have AIDS die of diseases because of immune deficiencies, but that is spurred on by a loss of immune deficiency. So, where does this 22,000 number come from? It comes from imaginary land, where if you say, "something like" you can make up any statistic you like.
As in: "Something like %130 of what you say is total BS"
you're misquoting
July 17, 2008 - 11:54 ET by daberkmanIt's not Deaths from AIDS/USA
It's
AIDS diagnoses and deaths of persons with AIDS in the USA by year
Did you intentionally edit that and think no one would notice! ahhahahahahahaha
Is that why you didn't include the link: http://www.avert.org...
Why is AIDS/HIV such a
July 17, 2008 - 05:32 ET by motherbeltWhy is AIDS/HIV such a priority to so many when it doesn't even rank a mention on the list of top ten killer diseases
Because like being black is more of an iddological thing more than skin color, in the US, AIDS is more of a gay thing than a health issue. And now in Africa it's a black thing.
Shoot 'em all; let God sort 'em out! - Marge Simpson
It is a gay disease!
July 17, 2008 - 06:01 ET by NortoFirst of all, a phobia is a fear of something and I am sure everyone who thinks negatively about homosexuality is afraid of the lifestyle, most of us are just convinced it is wrong in God's eyes.
Secondly, here is a link from a reliable source on the "disease" aspect:
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2006/oct/06100404.html
Right, and homosexuals have
July 17, 2008 - 07:24 ET by SickofLibsRight, and homosexuals have zero culpability in spreading the AIDS virus. It's just a another Republican plot.
ps: it's customary to respectfully throw a handful of earth into the grave, not use a frontloader.
...he blamed the disease on
July 17, 2008 - 07:50 ET by PeskyDane...he blamed the disease on homosexuality.
And this is wrong because... [cricket... cricket...]
wrong because
July 17, 2008 - 08:11 ET by AgnosticHIV can be transmitted by sexual contact, blood or bodily fluid contact, mother-to-child contact or contact with mucous membranes so there are other ways of transfer without homosexuality. A true argument would be that the spread of the HIV virus was most rampant among homosexuals and the homosexual communities unwillingness to be tagged as the leading cause of the spread of the disease out of fear of the public assuming they were the cause of the disease was the leading factor in the explosion of HIV positive cases - or something like that.
Wow... I didn't know that.
July 17, 2008 - 15:32 ET by PeskyDaneWow... I didn't know that. (Stewie Griffen Voice) That was so infor-ma-tive. You've taken something we have all known for decades, and you repeated it... as if non of us knew it. Because, you see, we all need to be educated on all the possible ways to transmit the HIV virus, because [snort] none of us have actually picked up a book or read an article, or a medical journal. And of course, its not like any of us have been buried under a mountain of public service ads. You know, we're all here still waiting for that pandemic to break out among non-homosexuals... you know, the one we promised... um... still waiting...
Frankly
July 17, 2008 - 16:22 ET by jquamAfrica dumba$$. And Family Guy sucks.
Think Well.
RE: he's a homo idiot
July 17, 2008 - 08:44 ET by MrltavernYou may be right. Apparently there was a page six blurb about him sucking in bed with the ladies. I've heard this to be true a few years ago amongst industry people before the blurd came out. So perhaps he's been overperforming w/the guys making him underperform for the ladies.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10092006/gossip/pagesix/pagesix.htm
Mr.L
I've heard Ann coulter is
July 17, 2008 - 09:08 ET by daberkman60 and unmarried. therefore she's a lesbian.
Are you serious? The fact that keith olbermann has sex with women is reason fo ryou to believe he's a gay? That's amazing.
I thought AIDS was not a
July 17, 2008 - 08:53 ET by mattmI thought AIDS was not a "gay" disease? If that's the case, then what does naming a funding bill for AIDS after a "homophobe" have to do with anything.
Hell yeah, Keith. It shows
July 17, 2008 - 09:19 ET by Cureboy675Hell yeah, Keith. It shows unprecedented chutzpah for Old Lady Dole to suggest that they name an HIV funding bill after Jesse Helms. Was her statement in conjunction with the trials for the Olympic Comedy-Through-Irony team? Was there maybe a lesser known Jesse Helms in the Senate that she might have been referring to? Because this would be astonishingly inappropriate. While we're at it, why don't we build the Adolf Eichmann Holocaust Musuem. Or the Pol Pot Institute for the Advancement of Cambodians. The David Duke Center for Racial Equality. The Jane Fonda War Room. The Maude Findlay Library for Conservative Studies.
Ugh. Jesse Helms. I think enough time has passed to say that he was a despecable man. Yeah, "late in life" he made the public show of support by taking up with Bono in the fight against AIDS. 20 years after even Ronald Reagan finally came around. Really, Senator, that was rather daring of you. Every American remembers where they were on the shocking day when you sat down with Bono.
Why should Keith Olbermann be considered hateful to call out Jesse Helms on his lifetime of hatred? Besides, wouldn't doing that cause one to be considered just as hateful?
I don't know weather or not
July 17, 2008 - 11:17 ET by general companyI don't know weather or not naming the bill after him is appropriate. But the fact that he came around to thinking this was an important issue should not go unnoticed, especially if it is important to you. You may not like the guy for his previous beliefs, but when the old guards ideas change, it usually brings a lot of folks with it. Their are countless examples of this. Like when Dale Sr refused to were the HANS device, and then dieing most probably because of that decision. Like the situation of us drilling for our own oil, some big names have started showing support for it, it's all the same type of thing. This is why things never happen in a timely manor, witch in many cases is a good thing.
But Oberdude is a putz, always was.
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
I don't disagree with you
July 17, 2008 - 12:47 ET by Cureboy675I don't disagree with you about Olbermann. I would never in a million years call him a journalist. He's just a blowhard who happens to have his own TV show. It just that, in this particular instance, I do agree with him.
I just have to wonder how many children like Ryan White died of this disease while Jesse Helms was touting his assertion that people with this disease were just paying for their own lack of morality. If he did change his way of thinking in the last years of his life, then that's great. Though, with most people, I've noticed the older we get, the more we get set in our way of thinking.
But given his long, long history of fighting against this funding. It just seems absurd to suddenly name a funding bill after him.
I just have to wonder how
July 17, 2008 - 14:16 ET by general companyI just have to wonder how many children like Ryan White died of this disease while Jesse Helms was touting his assertion that people with this disease were just paying for their own lack of morality.
Ya know, you just cant look at it that way. Blaming folks that do not jump on your band wagon gets you nothing. I lost my Mother when I was 15 to cancer, does that mean that every person that did not jump on the latest cancer research bill is a terrible person? In DC there are choices to be made in how these funds are spent, some may support the ones you favor, some think others are more important. Aids has been funded well, that is why there have been so much progress in this area, what about cancer, diabetes, car wreaks, teen age suicides, ect. I could find an "evil" person concerning any of these. What will it do for those suffering? We should be able to support our individual causes without demonizing those that feel differently. Trying to change minds is a better way, that is why Bono has had so much support BTW.
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
You're right. It does
July 17, 2008 - 15:04 ET by Cureboy675You're right. It does little good to play the blame game. But all of the people who have fought for AIDS funding, would Jesse Helms even rank in the top 10,000? I see no reason to name such a bill after him. If you want to call it the Bono Funding Bill, I'll jump on that bandwagon. (though Bono's music sucks) :)
I suspect Elizabeth Dole is just trying to find a way to pay respect to Jesse Helms. And that's cool. She succeeded him after 30 years in the Senate. But I really think she should have found something that, frankly makes more sense. I mean, to me it just reads like somebody's idea of a sarcastic smart-ass joke.
This is just the rantings
July 17, 2008 - 10:12 ET by marpelThis is just the rantings of the mentally ill...
Tradition
July 17, 2008 - 11:45 ET by Harry 3 LimeAs Jesse said of Strom Thurmond, "A man's colorful past should not disqualify public approbation."
155 comments - NOONE defends Helms*
July 17, 2008 - 17:51 ET by155 comments so far on this topic. Only 6 even mention Jesse Helms, and 1, That's ONE ONLY, even seems to support Liddy Dole's hypocritical honoring of Helms**. No commenter defends Helms or disagrees on the fact that Helms was a homophobe. Nobody attacks Olbie for the specific comments in this topic Maybe that's because the commenters are smarter than Brad Wilmouth, the author of this topic, in realizing that not only WAS Helms a homophobe, HE WAS DAMN PROUD OF IT.
Everything Olbie said about Helms was true. Of course the biggest sign of liberal bias in the MSM is their use of the truth.
As for Mr. Wilmouth, he needs to get another hobby. Admittedly he gets a lot of mileage out discussing Olbie but when *not one of all the 155 comments, the vast majority being from conservatives, defends Helms on the subject of homophobia and Aids, that's an embarrassment.
** Harry 3 lime's comment: "As Jesse said of Strom Thurmond, "A man's colorful past should not disqualify public approbation." " Agreed, but it absoulutely disqualifies public approbation of "a man's colorfuul past.". Which in Helms' case was one of homophobia and racism.
Oh please AB.... As usual
July 17, 2008 - 18:00 ET by bigtimerOh please AB....
As usual you missed the whole point.
Carry on with your trolling.
America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Abe... I had
July 17, 2008 - 18:00 ET by Clear thinkerAbe...
I had already given my support, and condolences here at NB when the news broke about his death. Jesse was one of the reasons I moved to NC, but I for one am not going to waste my time with liberals that trash him. It only encourages them.
45 Communist Goals for America http://www.nationmakers.com/com_goals.htm
Actually, there's no need
July 17, 2008 - 20:59 ET by fitzfongActually, there's no need to defend Jesse Helms in this particular post. You simply consider the source of the accusation...Keith Olbermann, a guy with zero credibility...you laugh and you move on. It's an empty accusation from a man not worthy of consideration. You and Keith Olbermann have a lot in common, then.
"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Reagan
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Legacy
July 17, 2008 - 20:24 ET by tbbaxterAs distraught as Olbermann was when Tim Russert died, one would think that the example set by Mr. Russert's life would have had a positive impact on Olbermann's outlook. Unfortunately, Keith took the low road and continues to live his life with hate in his heart for all things conservative. There will be few to mourn him when he is gone.
tbb... Correct you
July 17, 2008 - 20:42 ET by bigtimertbb...
Correct you are...with the exception of the msm that is...
Irony is fun right?
July 17, 2008 - 21:49 ET by the53rdcalypsoAll the sodomites would be really into that: http://www.236.com/n...
Jesse Helms was a christian
July 18, 2008 - 01:29 ET by cocodrieJesse Helms was a christian man and a straight shooter. Because of this the msm and the radical left wing conspiricy have declared open season on him and his memory. Homophobia is a word made up in 1969 to promote the homosexual agenda. Therefore in 2008 we need to atart referring to them as heterophobes because they fear normal people.
La De Da
July 18, 2008 - 09:26 ET by jquamYou think you're normal. Only an ignorant jacka$$ would actually believe such a thing. This world is filled with different people...you don't have to like all of them. And just the non-ironic use of the word "homosexual agenda" proves how your mind stopped advancing years ago.
Think Well.
Sixteen military wives
Thirty-two softly focused brightly colored eyes
Staring at the natural tan
Of thirty-two gently clenching wrinkled little hands
Seventeen company men
Out of which only twelve will make it back again
Sergeant sent a letter to five
Military wives, his tears drip down to ten little eye
Cheer them on to their rivals
Cause America can, and America can't say no
And America does, if America says it's so
It's so
And the anchorperson on TV goes...
La de da de da de-dadedade-da
-The Decemberists (just a good song)
jquam
July 19, 2008 - 01:24 ET by cocodrieGod created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. He also said that homosexuality is an abomination. The jackass saved Balaam's life when Balaam was too stupid to listen to God's word, so maybe you should listen to God's word yourself. When this life is over, you will see that it is Jesus Christ sitting on the throne, not Barney Frank.