After a May 7 speech at the University of Virginia's Miller Center of Public Affairs, ABC's Cokie Roberts expressed concern that an electoral loss by Hillary Clinton would "set women back further" during her response to an audience member's question about what Clinton's legacy would be. Roberts: "I do wonder, and people ask me that a lot, is whether, if she is defeated, that is going to set women back further, or whether the fact that she's made it this far is going to be helpful to women. And I fear that it will be the former because that tends to happen, you know." (Video of the speech can be found here.) (Partial transcript follows)
Roberts also recommended that the eventual Democratic presidential nominee "needs to pick a white guy from a swing state, preferably a guy who owns a gun," a variation on her words from the Sunday May 11 This Week that the Democratic ticket should include a "Bible-thumping, gun-owning, white guy from a swing state."
After her speech promoting her new book, Ladies of Liberty: The Women Who Shaped Our Nation, a book about first ladies from the past, an audience member asked what Senator Clinton's legacy would be if she fails to win the presidency. In part of her answer Roberts, brought up the possible negative consequences of a Clinton loss for women:
But what I do wonder, and people ask me that a lot, is whether, if she is defeated, that is going to set women back further, or whether the fact that she's made it this far is going to be helpful to women. And I fear that it will be the former because that tends to happen, you know.
After recounting that Walter Mondale chose Geraldine Ferraro as his running mate in 1984 to go for the votes of women, but ended up losing 49 states, Roberts continued:
And the next day, everybody wakes up talking about the white male vote. Now, it was not her fault that they lost that election, you know. ... but I think it did set it back for a while. And I think that might be the same thing this time around, I'm sorry to say.
Though she did not directly advocate the election of Clinton, Roberts has shown signs of sympathy for the New York Senator before, remarking on the February 24 This Week of Clinton's battle with Barack Obama:
Here is this woman who's worked hard, she's done it all the way you're supposed to do it, and then this cute young man comes in and says a bunch of sweet, you know, nothings, and pushes you out of the way. And a lot of women are looking at that and saying, "There goes my life."
After an audience member asked about the possibility of Clinton being Obama's running mate, Roberts made comments similar to those she made a few days later on ABC's This Week. Roberts, from the May 7 forum:
I think it would be very foolish for the Democratic Party to pick Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton as their ticket. They need somebody who's not a Senator from a state that's going to go Democratic anyway, which defines both of them. Either one of them needs to pick a white guy from a swing state, preferably a guy who owns a gun. [AUDIENCE LAUGHTER] And, I mean, seriously. I mean, that's what they need. That's where the problem is.
Roberts also notably had complimentary words for Laura Bush, referring to herself as a "big fan" of the First Lady who is "one of the smartest people I know, and a genuine intellectual, which is something I would not say about myself."
Below is a transcript of relevant portions of the May 7 speech at the University of Virginia's Miller Center of Public Affairs with critical portions in bold:
ABOUT 27 MINUTES IN:
WOMAN IN AUDIENCE: I have often wondered about Laura Bush, and I guess the question would be: Do you know anything about her role or her thoughts?
COKIE ROBERTS: Yes, I do, and I'm a big fan of Laura Bush. She is one of the smartest people I know, and a genuine intellectual, which is something I would not say about myself. And yesterday, I thought it was quite wonderful that she stood up, and she was the person holding the press conference about Burma because that is a cause that she knows more about than anybody else in the administration. And she finally just took to the lectern and did it herself instead of, sort of, feeding somebody else the information. And she has been highly influential in terms of literacy. The whole Festival of the Book, which happens now at the Library of Congress, was entirely her idea. And for a while, she was doing wonderful sort of symposia at the White House on American authors, and she had scholars of all different bents come in to talk about the American authors, and they were fascinating to listen to. Unfortunately, the scholars started using them as an opportunity to bash the President instead of talking about the authors, and so she stopped doing it.
ABOUT 46 MINUTES IN:
WOMAN IN AUDIENCE: I wonder if you could comment on what kind of legacy Hillary Clinton is beginning to form. Of course, her career is far from over, whether she becomes President or not, but there seem to be such opposing views to her. You know, people used to have, kind of, these gut reactions to her. And I wonder what, sort of, the sum will be if her political career were to stop at this moment, for example.
ROBERTS: You know, what, I don't know, people do have very strong reactions to her, and I don't know how that is going to end up going down in history. People's attitudes toward her have shifted somewhat in the course of this campaign. And some people ended up liking her a lot more, and some people less. So we will see. But what I do wonder, and people ask me that a lot, is whether, if she is defeated, that is going to set women back further, or whether the fact that she's made it this far is going to be helpful to women. And I fear that it will be the former because that tends to happen, you know. You, I mean, Geraldine Ferraro was made Vice President, you know, to try to get the women's vote. Walter Mondale and Geraldine Ferraro lose 49 states. And the next day, everybody wakes up talking about the white male vote. Now, it was not her fault that they lost that election, you know. Vice Presidents don't matter. The only Vice President we can point to at all that has mattered is Lyndon Johnson by carrying Texas. And so I, you know, but I think it did set it back for a while. And I think that might be the same thing this time around, I'm sorry to say.
...ABOUT 52 MINUTES IN:
MAN IN AUDIENCE: Geraldine Ferraro, as you say, didn't make much difference as vice presidential candidate. Were Barack Obama to become the candidate, as appears perhaps likely now, would Hillary Clinton be a Geraldine Ferraro? Or would she make a difference?
ROBERTS: I think it would be very foolish for the Democratic Party to pick Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton as their ticket. They need somebody who's not a Senator from a state that's going to go Democratic anyway, which defines both of them. Either one of them needs to pick a white guy from a swing state, preferably a guy who owns a gun. [AUDIENCE LAUGHTER] And, I mean, seriously. I mean, that's what they need. That's where the problem is. And so I, you know, I would be very surprised to see that ticket. I don't think it's the ticket that would really work for them.














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Right Cokie, this race for
May 15, 2008 - 23:05 ET by motherbeltRight Cokie, this race for the nomination is all about the women's movement and racism.
Don't forget: it all boils down to whether white men hate blacks more than they hate women. -Nora Ephron
I'm sure you're hoping that's true.
Nice job, Brad
May 15, 2008 - 23:07 ET by Tim GrahamGet your original reporting on the news stars at NewsBusters!
Either one of them needs to
May 15, 2008 - 23:16 ET by motherbeltEither one of them needs to pick a white guy from a swing state, preferably a guy who owns a gun.
Well, so much for the fact that Obama and John Edwards look fantastic together!!
Ms Roberts has
May 15, 2008 - 23:48 ET by Delsato realize that the black man will trump the white woman every time.
The democrats cannot go for the white person, male or female, because they will never get over their guilt, plus they will loose their base
Set women back further
May 16, 2008 - 00:27 ET by upcountrywaterthan this:
The POPE says, GOD BLESS AMERICA!!
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God damn, Cokie is such a
May 16, 2008 - 00:49 ET by SchnikeysGod damn, Cokie is such a butch-dyke. Paying lip service to Laura Bush isn't fooling anyone, either.
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May 16, 2008 - 06:44 ET by Cool ArrowI disagree.
Cokie Roberts is one of the few thinking Liberals out there.
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yes, she
May 16, 2008 - 09:23 ET by docbis a thinking liberal but has been in the clinton camp from the get go. I think this battle will tend to set feminist issues back but not for the reason she cites.
Many of those of us who have beat our breasts in pursuit of the cause were shocked to see how this campaign has been run. Shocked at the denigation of a movement we have been hand in hand with ,civil rights, come under the gun of the clinton machine. Appalled with the bright light shining on gross mismanagement of funds. Embarrassed by the racial slurs used to marginalize the opponent of our own party. Saddened by the flagrant misuse of gender to bring the low knowledge female voter to heal. Angered by the fear factor injected into the campaign with regard to Muslin slurs and Black against white.
A great divide has opened up in our nation due to these divisive tactics and left a sour taste in the mouths of the electorate.
This will be remembered!
Unfortunately, the
May 16, 2008 - 01:00 ET by general companyUnfortunately, the scholars started using them as an opportunity to bash the President instead of talking about the authors, and so she stopped doing it.
These are the idiots educating our kids folks. The left has our childrens ear, are you cool with that?
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May 16, 2008 - 01:09 ET by SchnikeysNo.
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in 2004, i was told by
May 16, 2008 - 09:56 ET by mister josephin 2004, i was told by more than one liberal that a conservative like me had no business teaching children, as i had no capacity for complex thinking, tolerance, and was generally narrow-minded, and that if they were to find out where i taught, they would make sure to file formal complaints with the school to make sure someone like me would lose my job.
nothing happened because i wasn't teaching, but i took seriously those threats.
So, Cokie, the entire future
May 16, 2008 - 01:43 ET by fitzfongSo, Cokie, the entire future of each and every woman hinges on the electoral prospects of one egomaniac that more than 1/2 the population (women included) detests? Yeah, that's the way forward...
Cokie, sweetie.. relax
May 16, 2008 - 06:20 ET by Jack BauerCokie, sweetie.. relax love..
Yo'Bama gonna love you long time -- ya feel me?
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May 16, 2008 - 06:30 ET by Cool ArrowI don't see anything condescending in Obama's comment.
After all, Obama can cite the number of White Women who have given birth to Presidents.
Of course it's his turn. Who could have possibly written a script like this Dem Primary season?
<sarcasm> for the truly dense
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Cokie is becoming - Aunt Biddie
May 16, 2008 - 08:27 ET by robertjacobIt's incredible to me that the networks still role out Cokie (Aunt Biddie) Roberts, and Sam (can you tell I wear a wig) Donaldson.
Surely at some point the nation could use new voices.
And not just ABC by the way - they all seem to role out the same old predictable voices over and over again.
Women and Minorities Most Affected.
May 16, 2008 - 09:13 ET by Increase MatherCokie must be engaging in a self-parody.
I have never seen the national MSM so in the tank for a campaign...we are going to get a steady diet of "Barry, Barry, Barry...from now until November.
If Obama knows what's good for him he'll put a white woman on the ticket.
The word "pander" has been redefined.
I think we have seen pretty
May 16, 2008 - 10:10 ET by BruzillaI think we have seen pretty clearly that the United States is ready to accept a woman President... they are just not willing to accept Hillary Clinton as President.
Don't Blame Hillary
May 16, 2008 - 11:02 ET by Kirk TurnerActually, N.O.W. is the culprit for the "setting back" of women. Before NOW, who would've believed that some women could be so hateful.
Note to Cokie: People don't like hateful, and they certianly don't vote for it.