On World News Sunday, ABC anchor Dan Harris filed a report on Pope Benedict's upcoming trip to America, labeling the Catholic leader as "sometimes controversial," and calling him a "hard-liner" for "strenuously condemning divorce, homosexuality, and abortion." Harris also suggested that he has a "tin ear" because of a 2006 speech in which he used a quotation of a historical figure calling Islam "evil" that sparked riots by Muslim extremists around the world, without mentioning that the Pope later clarified that it was not his personal view that Islam is evil. (Transcript follows)
Before a commercial break, Harris plugged the story: "And coming up here on World News this Sunday, who is Pope Benedict? The sometimes controversial Pope comes to America this week."
After contrasting Pope Benedict's style with that of his predecessor, Harris continued: "Joseph Ratzinger, the so-called 'Professor Pope,' grew up in Nazi Germany, a studious boy who was unwillingly drafted into the army. At the Vatican, he developed a reputation as a brilliant theologian, and also a hard-liner, strenuously condemning divorce, homosexuality, and abortion. As Pope John Paul's lieutenant, he earned nicknames like 'Cardinal No,' and 'God's Rottweiler.'"
ABC then ran a clip of religion expert David Gibson which seemed to suggest that being a "sweet man" is contradictory with adhering to conservative religious convictions. Gibson: "He's a grandfatherly-looking fellow dressed in white with the great white hair. He's a very sweet man in person. But he's the same Joseph Ratzinger. He has very strong principles."
Harris then brought up the Pope's 2006 speech in which he quoted a historical figure who called Islam "evil," and asked Gibson, to his agreement, if the Pope has a "tin ear." Harris: "Benedict has also created controversy, like in this speech, where he included a quote calling Islam evil. Afterwards, there were riots in the Muslim world. Do you think, at times, he has something of a tin ear?"
While Harris noted that the Pope is "more conservative than many American Catholics," on the same day's NBC Nightly News, correspondent Anne Thompson detailed a Pew Research Center poll similarly showing a substantial number of American Catholics to be more liberal on several issues, but she also noted that 60 percent of Catholics support the death penalty. And in noting support by many American Catholics of embryonic stem cell research, Thompson failed to clarify the difference between between adult stem cell research, which is supported by most religious leaders, and embryonic stem cell research, as the NBC correspondent merely conveyed that "55 percent [of American Catholics] say stem cell research is important."
The CBS Evening News was preempted by the Masters Golf Tournament on both Saturday and Sunday.
Below is a complete transcript of the stories from ABC's World News Sunday and the NBC Nightly News for April 13:
#From ABC's World News Sunday:
DAN HARRIS: And coming up here on World News this Sunday, who is Pope Benedict? The sometimes controversial Pope comes to America this week.
...HARRIS: Coming up this Tuesday, Pope Benedict arrives for his first U.S. visit as Pope -- a six-day trip to Washington, D.C., and New York. The Catholic Church considers the Pope to be the representative of Jesus Christ on Earth, but Americans, including many American Catholics, don't know much about him.
POPE BENEDICT XVI: Dear friends in the United States, I'm very much looking forward to being with you.
HARRIS: As you can see from this recent Vatican video, Pope Benedict XVI is an understated man. His predecessor was not. John Paul II was a sort of religious rock star who fought communism and barn-stormed the world, visiting the U.S. seven times. Benedict, who turns 81 on Wednesday, does have some personal flare -- these fancy red shoes, rumored falsely to be made by Prada, and a liking for cats. There's even a children's book about him and his neighbor's kitty. But while John Paul loved being surrounded by people -- here, Polish break dancers -- Benedict is more likely to be found alone, playing classical piano.
MSGR THOMAS BOHLIN, OPUS DEI: He's a very gentle soul. Whereas John Paul was a great figure, a great figure on the stage like an actor who dominated the world, in Benedict, you can find somebody who is a deep thinker.
HARRIS: Joseph Ratzinger, the so-called "Professor Pope," grew up in Nazi Germany, a studious boy who was unwillingly drafted into the army. At the Vatican, he developed a reputation as a brilliant theologian, and also a hard-liner, strenuously condemning divorce, homosexuality, and abortion. As Pope John Paul's lieutenant, he earned nicknames like "Cardinal No," and "God's Rottweiler."
DAVID GIBSON, AUTHOR OF THE RULE OF BENEDICT: There's a temptation to see him as a different person now. He's a grandfatherly-looking fellow dressed in white with the great white hair. He's a very sweet man in person. But he's the same Joseph Ratzinger. He has very strong principles.
HARRIS: Benedict has also created controversy, like in this speech, where he included a quote calling Islam evil. Afterwards, there were riots in the Muslim world. Do you think, at times, he has something of a tin ear?
GIBSON: Yes. He just doesn't really think about often the consequences, especially now that he's Pope, of things that he says to people.
HARRIS: While this Pope is more conservative than many American Catholics, he is not expected to come here to scold. As he said from his window above St. Peter's Square today, his main message is that Jesus is the way to hope and love.
POPE BENEDICT XVI: I ask you all to pray for the success of my visit.
HARRIS: And Pope Benedict will visit the White House and Ground Zero and hold two open-air masses. He's also expected to address the priest sex abuse scandal.
#From the NBC Nightly News:
LESTER HOLT: Another big story we're watching in the days ahead is the Pope's historic first visit to the U.S. Today Pope Benedict asked the faithful in St. Peter's Square to pray for the success of his trip. As we hear from NBC's Anne Thompson, he'll find an American church facing serious challenges.
ANNE THOMPSON: What is typical at St. Matthew's Cathedral in the nation's capital, a full congregation for Sunday mass, is increasingly unusual for many Catholic churches. The ranks of the priests who lead them are shrinking, along with weekly churchgoers, about 41 percent of Catholics. Yet Pope Benedict comes to a church more vibrant here than in his native Europe, where, in some places, the percentage of Catholics attending mass sinks to single digits.
CARDINAL JOHN FOLEY, VATICAN OFFICIAL: The Holy Father sees in the United States a place where religion is strong -- not only the Catholic Church but other religious expression. And that for him is a source of hope.
THOMPSON: His American flock is marked by a strong streak of independence, as many Catholics here disagree with the church's teachings on several issues – 60 percent of Catholics support the death penalty; 55 percent say stem cell research is important; 51 percent think abortion should be legal in all or most cases; and 42 percent favor gay marriage, a higher percentage than the rest of the country. It is a church with changing demographics. Much of its energy now comes from new immigrants -- Asians and especially Hispanics.
GEORGE WEIGEL, NBC NEWS VATICAN EXPERT: The Catholic Church has been the most successful immigrant assimilator in our history.
THOMPSON: But it is a church still scarred by the priest sex abuse scandals earlier this decade, paying out $2 billion in settlements; impacting schools, parishes and charities -- an issue Pope Benedict is expected to address.
FATHER THOMAS REESE, GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY: It's had a devastating impact on the church, but hopefully, we have learned, and frankly, hopefully, the church can become part of the solution, rather than part of the problem.
THOMPSON: Eager to move forward, the American Catholic Church welcomes the Pope, anxious to learn about him, and for him to understand the culture that both connects and distances it from Rome. Anne Thompson, NBC News, New York.


THOMPSON: His American flock is marked by a strong streak of independence, as many Catholics here disagree with the church's teachings on several issues – 60 percent of Catholics support the death penalty; 55 percent say stem cell research is important; 51 percent think abortion should be legal in all or most cases; and 42 percent favor gay marriage, a higher percentage than the rest of the country. It is a church with changing demographics. Much of its energy now comes from new immigrants -- Asians and especially Hispanics.












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So, what else is new? To
April 14, 2008 - 10:21 ET by motherbeltSo, what else is new? To the secular liberals, every Pope who doesn't "liberalize" the Church is a "hardliner." Every time the Church has a new Pope, they express a hope that this, finally, will be the one who will "modernize" the Catholic Church (i.e. allow priests to marry, women priests, divorce etc.) That it doesn't happen just frustrates them to no end. Every Pope who doesn't do that is a "Controversial Hardliner" (with a tin ear for what his flock wants, as if that's the most important thing). Thus, they feel it incumbent upon themselves to emphasize discontent in the Church; a tactic which reaches full flower whenever a Pope visits the US.
This was discussed a couple of days ago in a thread. And it's not just big-time papers like the NYT and WaPo...right on cue, yesterday, I brought in my Harrisburg Patriot-News, and there on the front page was the headline: Dissenting Catholics Offer a Challenge to Pontiff.
They are soooooo predictable.
Edit @ 10:21....apparently Gibson's "tin ear" comment was meant for the Pope's comment about Islam, not what Catholics want. I stand corrected. However, in my defense (LOL) the media have often bemoaned the fact that a Pope would not change teaching according to majority opinion among the laity.
Media waiting
April 14, 2008 - 08:02 ET by Blogger Guy00001The media have been waiting for the Pope's visit. They have been saving up fake stories that trash the Pope. They will highlight all the controversy that they can find, and invent some as well.
The American media are truly a disgrace.
media has its prism
April 14, 2008 - 09:00 ET by jondelwicheYes, the media is amazing in its ignorance. The beauty of Catholicism
is its simple yet solid definitions of what is right and what is wrong.
These rules have existed for millenia and no amount of technology
or MTV will change them. Yet, the reporters covering the Pope are generally
the nonbelievers, i.e like having Lindsey Lohan cover a Masters golf tournament
would = stupid golf reports. Now, this week = stupid religion reporting.
How about just one report that states those who believe in abortion or gay marriage
may call themselves "Catholic," but really are clueless about the religion or their
own faith, i.e papal infallibility.............instead, the media portray the Pope as the one
being out of touch. Ditto the media stories on Republicans (from media folks
clearly who are nonbelievers).
Irony is not Gibson's strong suit
April 14, 2008 - 08:07 ET by WingletDriver"Benedict has also created controversy, like in this speech, where he included a quote calling Islam evil. Afterwards, there were riots in the Muslim world. Do you think, at times, he has something of a tin ear?"
When Harris asked that stupid question, don't you think that Gibson should have been smart enough to identify that Muslims rioting pretty much confirmed exactly what Benedict XVI said about Islam? Specifically, he was talking about the good of reason and the evil of compulsory religious observance.
Having a "tin ear"
April 14, 2008 - 10:10 ET by motherbeltHaving a "tin ear" obviously means not realizing that offending Muslims causes rioting... he should have known better, and shut his mouth.
And why aren't liberals out defending what the Pope said as "the truth"? After all, that's their defense of Obama's saying that rural American conservatives cling to their religion and their guns because they are frustrated....that he was speaking the truth.
Amen, motherbelt.
April 14, 2008 - 10:38 ET by ThalpyAmen, motherbelt. Muslim behaviors and others' behaviors are self-fulfilling. During the process to select a Pope I remember a number of the Press wondering if a "liberal" Pope might be chosen. It seems to get back to basic questions: When is a Catholic a Catholic, a Muslim a Muslim, and a journalist a journalist? The answer might be: when they're not, they're not.
Three Points
April 14, 2008 - 09:45 ET by KC MulvilleIt wasn’t that long ago that the Church was the mass media. It was the only organization that could spread a message throughout a large percentage of the known world. Times have changed, and our current media has taken on that role now. One thing you can count on is that the media will not tolerate any interference to their message supremacy.
It doesn’t surprise me that Catholics in the United States answer the pollsters that they don’t hold the same views as the Vatican. Let’s face it, the Catholic Church in the United States made deliberate decisions, during the wave of immigrants, to integrate Catholics into the American mainstream. Through Catholic schools especially, the Church went out of its way to transform immigrants from the old countries into respectable American citizens. In this, the Church succeeded, brilliantly. Traditionally, the victory of that immigration effort was JFK’s election. But like Robert Redford at the end of “The Candidate,” we look at each other and say, “now what?”
To a large extent, immigrant Catholics moved into the mainstream of American life by taking the easy way out: they simply abandoned their Catholicism. They get most of their information about their own faith from the television, not from the church. Ask an ordinary Catholic whether they’re for or against divorce, and they’ll likely respond with what their culture teaches them. If you ask ordinary Catholics why the church opposes divorce, few would be able to tell you. No one has taught them. That’s why the Pope comes to places – his job is to reinforce and re-explain what it means to be Catholic.
During the immigration debate, I’ve always been suspicious of one argument. The vast majority of immigrants are Hispanic, and they seem to be unwilling to surrender their identity. In itself, that doesn’t bother me. In fact, I welcome their loyalty to their tradition and culture. Congruently, I regret that the Irish Catholics in America today are indistinguishable from Methodists. Nothing against Methodists, but it seems to me that the price of American citizenship shouldn’t require that we abandon our traditional heritage. We ought to be able to be true American citizens, fully loyal to the constitution and our fellow citizens, and yet also be able to take pride in our heritage. Sure, we don’t want Mexicans crossing our border trying to make this North Mexico. They have to accommodate the constitution, speak the language, and respect American traditions. But do they have to lose their heritage? We all hoped America could resolve that dilemma.
For me, that's the discussion about immigration we should be having.
The vast majority of
April 14, 2008 - 10:29 ET by motherbeltThe vast majority of immigrants are Hispanic, and they seem to be unwilling to surrender their identity.
The Catholic Church is bending over backwards to accomodate Hispanic immigrants. I went to Mass in Florida two weeks ago (visiting our son) and during the petitions, where we normally answer "Lord, hear our prayer" or something similar, they instead sang a response "Oye nos Senor" (Hear us Lord)....oye nos, Senor....listen to your people Lord, oye nos Senor." The main pharase was the Spanish....the English was a subtitle. Didn't really like that.
The simple solutions in life!
April 14, 2008 - 10:45 ET by UnsaneMr. Harris, the solutions in life are so simple!
If you don't like Catholicism, or disagree with the Church's teachings, this is what you do:
Don't Become Catholic.
See? Was that so hard???
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
LOL
April 14, 2008 - 10:58 ET by Missouri ConservativeTranslation: "Tin Ear" and "Hardliner" are terms used to describe religious people who actually believe in the teachings of the church and refuse to water them down for liberals and the drive-by media.
As a Catholic myself, kudos to Pope Benedict.
"women and minorities hardest hit"
Dang that Pope for being so
April 14, 2008 - 10:59 ET by mattmDang that Pope for being so frickin' Catholic!
If the Pope is "sometimes
April 14, 2008 - 15:53 ET by radiofitz34If the Pope is "sometimes controversial", then automatically the reporter reporting it is "sometimes liberal".
Actually the reporter is most times liberal. It would be interesting to compare who gets more MSM critisism. The Pope on his trip or the Iranian dictator when he visited.