Ignoring National Journal's recent finding that Barack Obama had the most liberal voting record in the U.S. Senate in 2007, Time Magazine's senior political analyst Mark Halperin, appearing on Thursday's American Morning on CNN, claimed that both Obama and John McCain were "centrists" as he explained New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg's recent decision not to run for President. Citing Bloomberg's intent to run only if both major parties nominated extreme candidates, Halperin explained: "He ended up with two guys who are centrists." (Transcript follows)
Even though anchor John Roberts hinted that the words "independence" and "bucking some party orthodoxy" apply less to Obama than to McCain, Halperin suggested that those words only apply more to McCain "in terms of their time in Washington, in part because Obama hasn't been there very long." After describing McCain as someone who has "made a career" of "going after his party when he thinks the country's interests should stand above the party's interests," Halperin asserted that "that's what Obama is talking about as well."
Below is a complete transcript of the segment from the Thursday February 28 American Morning on CNN with critical portions in bold:
JOHN ROBERTS: So Mark, what do you make of all of this, the timing for Bloomberg, and the fact that he has finally decided to close the door on a presidential run if that door was ever open?
MARK HALPERIN, Time Magazine Senior Political Analyst: Well, he did have that ballot deadline, as you mentioned. But I think that the handwriting went right up on the wall when the nominees were determined. Now, John McCain, as you said, the de facto Republican nominee, good friends with Bloomberg and someone who shares a lot of what Bloomberg wants to see in a President. In fact, if you read Bloomberg's op-ed piece, a lot of it could have been written by John McCain. Now, the other two possible presidents, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, also present challenges for Bloomberg. Clinton, of course, also from New York, has worked closely with the mayor. And if Obama is the nominee, which is more likely than a not, at this point, he also has a lot of the same qualities that Bloomberg would offer up -- appeal to independents which McCain also has, and at least the rhetoric of saying Washington doesn't work, I want to change the way things work. The very appeal that Bloomberg would have brought to the race is the very appeal that McCain and Obama have for a lot of voters.
ROBERTS: Yeah, you know, an advisor to McCain says it's good to great news, I guess, thinking about the idea that Bloomberg could have played spoiler the way Ralph Nader did back in 2000. And here's what Bloomberg said, just to reiterate. Quote, "If a candidate takes an independent nonpartisan approach and embraces practical solutions that challenge party orthodoxy, I'll join others in helping that candidate win the White House."
Mark, you suggested just a second ago that both John McCain and Barack Obama have got elements of that independence and perhaps bucking some party orthodoxy. But what Bloomberg said there, does that, does that describe McCain to a greater degree than it does Obama?
HALPERIN: Well, it does certainly in terms of their time in Washington, in part because Obama hasn't been there very long. McCain has made a career out of doing just what Bloomberg says he wants, going after his party when he thinks the country's interests should stand above the party's interests. That's what John McCain has gotten famous for. That's what he's done for most of his career in Washington on a lot of big issues, and that's what Obama is talking about as well. Bloomberg's plan all along was, to run, was to see two nominees on the extremes -- people who were more partisan or more associated with the extreme wings of their party. He ended up with two guys who are centrists. Bloomberg only wanted to run, John, if he thought he could win, and I think he sees very little room. And he likes both McCain, and he also likes Obama a lot.


JOHN ROBERTS: So Mark, what do you make of all of this, the timing for Bloomberg, and the fact that he has finally decided to close the door on a presidential run if that door was ever open?












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At what point exactly did
March 2, 2008 - 22:02 ET by Chris NormanAt what point exactly did TIME go from a serious (although left of center) news magazine to the partisan joke it's become?
I don't know when it
March 2, 2008 - 22:15 ET by motherbeltI don't know when it started, but when they call the #1 Liberal in the Senate, (He has a 95 percent liberal rating from Americans for Democratic Reform), a "centrist," you know the transformation is complete.
Yes, definitely at this
March 2, 2008 - 22:15 ET by Chris NormanYes, definitely at this point. :) I've seen it has been getting worse though over the past couple of years, at least. Did they get new management straight from the DNC at some point?
Stalin/Lenin = centrist.
March 2, 2008 - 22:33 ET by USA4freedomStalin/Lenin = centrist.
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
Romney / Jendil 2012 (if,we survive)
And for the grammarians at CNN...
March 3, 2008 - 09:49 ET by RightOfMost...it's "WHOM will he endorse?" But everyone makes that mistake.
As for Time and CNN, they should know by now, or be told, that (a) Obama and Clinton are just like Karl Marx, and (b) there IS no such thing as a successful, or famous centrist.
Rush always asks us to look for a book about the "great moderates." You can't find it.
Obama's a Centrist?
March 2, 2008 - 22:38 ET by BlondeHe's about as centrist as Chairman Mao.
Sheesh...how stupid do these media twits believe we are? I know, I know, idiot question.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Blonde, We won't fall for
March 2, 2008 - 22:45 ET by Chris NormanBlonde,
We won't fall for it. I know of others that already have. Sigh and Grrr.
Yeah, Chris
March 2, 2008 - 22:48 ET by BlondeBloody hell.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Blonde,We have anineteen
March 2, 2008 - 22:55 ET by Chris NormanBlonde, We have a nineteen old employee who came into work announcing his support for Sen. B. O. Feeling like he needed some guidance, I questioned him on what in Obama's record led him to his support. Of course the only thing he could come up with was "he'll get us out of Iraq". I suspect that's what it all boils down to, when you strip away all the other empty crap.
BH, Redux
March 2, 2008 - 22:59 ET by BlondeWell, anyone could "get us out of Iraq".
How typical.
However, I prefer to have us WIN before we exit the stage. And I suspect 95% of Americans feel the same way....but it's up to John McCain to frame it properly. I hope he's up to the task.
My (conserve) friend almost incited a riot last week at our big conference (a whole gang of us at dinner) by asking if I was going to vote for Obama....seriously, I thought about starting a food fight! LOL. (He did it on purpose for the Hillary supporters).
Good luck with the naive kid....I'm not having too much luck with smart people who seriously ought to know better. Alas....
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
It's like BS in a gift box.
March 2, 2008 - 23:10 ET by Chris NormanIt's like manure in a gift box. No matter how expertly wrapped or pretty the ribbon, it's still manure. We know what's inside before the box is opened, because we can smell it a mile off. Others have to wait until they open it to discover the "surprise" inside.
and what is really scary
March 2, 2008 - 23:11 ET by Cape Conservativeis the fact that our next president may very well be elected by these 19-year-olds. I don't believe they have enough life experience or the proper insight to make such a determination. And, as Blonde says, she's not having much luck getting through to them. Reason??? It's all about "feelings" and you know, "Hope" and "Change" - don't ask them to do any research on what the candidates really stand for. They'd probably just go to Facebook or Wikipedia and swallow whatever false information someone wants disseminated hook, line and sinker!
Cape
March 2, 2008 - 23:17 ET by BlondeI think the kids are getting excited now.
But come November...I'd wager 50% of them will stay home. Barry thuds, and they won't vote for another ten years (lucky us).
By which point, hopefully, they'll be earning their own livings, paying their own mortgages, and not believing the liberal idiocy that they find so attractive now.
I don't know who it was here that posted the "liberal" grade analogy....but it was great.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
In November ...
March 3, 2008 - 01:28 ET by KC MulvilleObama will be SO February. Like, you know?
Wow, like
March 3, 2008 - 01:30 ET by BlondeI hope so.
Nite, all.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
I think the kids are
March 3, 2008 - 09:23 ET by motherbeltI think the kids are getting excited now.
But come November...I'd wager 50% of them will stay home. Barry thuds, and they won't vote for another ten years (lucky us).
Blonde, I think you're partially right. Some commentator on TV said that, I forget who it was....they say they're going to vote, but then don't show up.
They might show up in states that have same-day voter registration. That is how Jesse Ventura pulled out a victory in MN in 1998.
In a lot of things I agree
March 3, 2008 - 00:08 ET by ConservativeRexIn a lot of things I agree with you on how 18 and 19 year olds may not have the experience to make mature judgements on politicians. I attribute that to almost every politician being so damn slippery that most adults can not make a fair judgement on them.
But I do know I was damn proud of my son when he went in the Army at 19 years old in 1991. He is still in, just recently back from his second tour in Iraq where other 18 & 19 year olds are performing magnificently.
Obama happens to be more slippery than most pols, so I can see how the young folks might gravitate to him. He's young and personable which naturally makes young folks comfortable. That he is absolutely wrong on every count is undeniable.
Having him in office will give these young folks an education beyond their years. How politicians lie to them at every turn, how they raise their taxes on money they worked hard to earn and give it to people who do nothing to earn it except live in the most gracious and giving country on earth.
Yeah, they'll be for Obama, right up until they really learn what he is. At that point, I would like to see a Conservative worth his salt come on the scene and show these young folks what it means to love your country and what patriotism really is.
Don't worry about the 18/19 year old crowd
March 3, 2008 - 01:32 ET by ironchefofmunchiesI'm going to Univ. of North Texas to get my MBA right now and I've lost count of the number of Ron Paul flyers, billboards, and meetings that I've seen over the last few months. Not to mention he's constantly being pimped (yeah I said PIMPED) by the student newspaper.
And with all of that, he'll be lucky to get 5% of the vote here in Texas on Tuesday (in his home state).
Now we're going to hear about how all the young folks are going to vote for Obama. And once again, after the election the 18-24 demographic will have the lowest turnout of any age group.
I will call BS on this
March 2, 2008 - 23:05 ET by well99Neither are centralist.What is it with some liberals/leftist always trying to pin the label of centralist on themselves or haveing their sycophants do it for them.Time can take their magazine and put it where the sun dont shine.
To Halperin's way of thinking, Obama probably is a centrist.
March 2, 2008 - 23:32 ET by R D HelmWhich says a lot about where Halperin stands politically.
John McCain is a liberal. He said so himself.
If Obama's a centrist, then
March 3, 2008 - 01:00 ET by wiwfIf Obama's a centrist, then Howard Dean must be a radical right-winger.
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I reckon it all evens out,
March 3, 2008 - 01:13 ET by ConservativeRexI reckon it all evens out, this fella sees an Obama centrist, and when I'm in my Doctor's office and glance at a Time magazine I see a rag full of lies.
Isn't Halperin's father the
March 3, 2008 - 09:42 ET by buddycIsn't Halperin's father the life long liberal activist who works for a Soros funded hate group?