NBC: Europe Wants 'Change' in America, Hillary Too Much Like Bush

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On Friday's NBC Nightly News, correspondent Jim Maceda reported that Europeans have an unusually high interest in this year's presidential election as "they say they'd be very happy with anyone who makes a clean break with the past eight years. In a word, change." Maceda also suggested that Hillary Clinton reminds some of President Bush because of her "talking tough on Iran and terrorism." Notably, while liberals have long criticized Bush for his "You're either with us or against us" line after the September 11th attacks, according to USA Today, Senator Clinton, a week before Bush's speech, used similar words as she argued that Bush should articulate "to every nation in this world, you're either with us or you're not, and there will be consequences." And, appearing on the CBS Evening News the same day, she spoke approvingly of Bush's plan to "make it clear that every nation has to either be with us or against us." (Partial audio available here.)

As Maceda began his story about world interest in the presidential election, he contended that America's allies in Europe were most interested, relaying that in Europe, "Republican candidates are being bunched together with the Bush administration and blamed for the war in Iraq."

Then came a soundbite of a German student named Frank associating Republicans with "neoconservative policies." Frank: "The Republicans and the candidates that are out there just are being perceived as a continuation of neoconservative policies."

Maceda then relayed European fascination with Senators Clinton and Barack Obama because they are "historic choices," and cited the newfound popularity of Christoph von Marschall's book "Barack Obama: The Black Kennedy."

The NBC correspondent then contended that Senator Clinton is admired by some because she "talks tough on Iran and terrorism," but that others "say they hear a voice from the past." Then came a soundbite of Robin Niblett of Chatham House, who complained that Clinton "still sounds like a defensive American, whereas Obama looks like somebody who's more positive."

Notably, while critics of the war on terrorism have complained about President Bush's "You're either with us or against us" line from his speech declaring war against al-Qaeda and the Taliban on September 20, 2001, Senator Clinton had already made similar comments a week earlier.

Quoting the September 13, 2001, USA Today: "Some lawmakers called for a swift military response. 'I believe this is an act of war,' said Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas. 'I do not believe we should be seeking an indictment. We should be seeking the moral authority of certainty, and then retaliation.' Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., said the government should make it clear 'to every nation in this world, you're either with us or you're not, and there will be consequences.'"

Appearing on the CBS Evening News with Dan Rather on September 13, 2001, Clinton described her meeting with President Bush regarding the planned response to the September 11 attacks, and approvingly spoke of the President's intent to "make it clear that every nation has to either be with us or against us." Clinton: "We then went into a larger meeting where the President expressed his resolute determination to follow through on the following up of the perpetrators, finding where they are, bringing them to reckoning and to make it clear that every nation has to either be with us or against us. Those who harbor terrorists or who finance them are going to pay a price."

Returning to Maceda's story, the NBC correspondent concluded by contending that Europeans "want a clean break with the past eight years." Maceda: "Europeans seem to share one fundamental choice: they say they'd be very happy with anyone who makes a clean break with the past eight years. In a word, change."

Below is a complete transcript of Maceda's story from the Friday January 11 NBC Nightly News:

BRIAN WILLIAMS: Now to one of the big changes this presidential campaign year. It has to do with who's watching us. When we sat down for an interview with John McCain in Iowa right before the caucuses and our microphone failed to work, we were offered a loaner by a Swedish television news crew that was covering the McCain campaign in Iowa. There is huge interest in our election overseas, especially in Europe. Our report tonight from NBC's Jim Maceda in Berlin.

JIM MACEDA: From caucus to primary, each stop is flooded with interested observers. Foreign reporters covering every twist in an election that's rarely created more excitement abroad.

NICOLE BACHARON, French-United States Affairs Analyst: They feel the American president is going to have a big impact on their lives and on the life of everybody on this planet.

MACEDA: None more so perhaps than on America's closest allies in Europe. Here, Republican candidates are being bunched together with the Bush administration and blamed for the war in Iraq, even by these German students of U.S. politics like Frank.

FRANK: The Republicans and the candidates that are out there just are being perceived as a continuation of neoconservative policies.

MACEDA: The real buzz, they say, is over the showdown between Obama and Hillary Clinton, both seen here as historic choices by America. In Germany, Obama's Iowa victory triggered an avalanche of copy. Last month, author Christoph von Marschall couldn't give away his book entitled, "Barack Obama: The Black Kennedy." Now bookstores in Berlin are mostly sold out.

JOHN F. KENNEDY, dated June 26, 1963: As a free man, I take pride in the words "Ich bin ein Berliner."

CHRISTOPH VON MARSCHALL: Barack Obama has, in the same way as JFK had, this feelings that a young guy is coming there, a new generation, something new in style.

MACEDA: Others say they prefer Clinton's substance, that she talks tough on Iran and terrorism. But despite her win in New Hampshire, her critics overseas say they hear a voice from the past.

ROBIN NIBLETT, Chatham House: Hillary Clinton
still sounds like a defensive American, whereas Obama looks like somebody who's more positive.

MACEDA: Obama may be hot, Hillary popular, and others like Huckabee just unknown. But Europeans seem to share one fundamental choice: they say they'd be very happy with anyone who makes a clean break with the past eight years. In a word, change. Jim Maceda, NBC News,
Berlin.

—Brad Wilmouth is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.


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Yeah, I can see Europe

Yeah, I can see Europe wanting a US president who's appeals for their cooperation extend only to wanting them to sign our national condolence book - and I can see the media here thinking that's about right.

Frankly, I DON'T GIVE A

Frankly, I DON'T GIVE A RAT'S TAIL WHAT THOSE SOCIALIST, SCUM SUCKING EURO-WEENIES THINK!

Codependent MSM and libs

I wonder what Europe thought of us a couple of centuries ago when we were foolish enough to try this democracy stuff rather than having a king like normal countries.

The libs and the MSM have a real problem with codependency. Europe's approval would be nice, if they used real world standards. Not having their approval makes no difference.

Besides, with countries like France and Great Britain swiftly losing their culture to radical Muslim immigrants, who wants to imitate them? What they're doing clearly doesn't work.

When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.

How far removed form reality...

are those that see too much similarity between President Bush and Hillary?

Wow...words fail me...

Happy Trails...

  This whole report means

  This whole report means nothing.  By randomly picking comments any conclusion can be asserted. 

  If, as this report says, that Europe wants a break from the past eight years why are Europeans electing more conservative leaders?

"ROBIN NIBLETT, Chatham

"ROBIN NIBLETT, Chatham House: Hillary Clinton still sounds like a defensive American, whereas Obama looks like somebody who's more positive."Well that settles that. All we have to do is vote for Obama, and we will never be attacked again! Just like the 90's, when Bill was in office, the Europeans loved us and there was no reason for those wacky Muslims to hate us!
Nortonalec

You're right

What we just heard (or read) was what NBC thinks, not Europe.

 

  The European Union is

  The European Union is bigger and richer than us but do we care or even know who or what runs it?  The fact is they look to our leadership because they cannot produce any world leadership from Brussels.

  The EU is just a city council run amok.   They are "The Blob".

EU

GDP of EU - 14,609,836
GDP of US - 13,194,700
With our growth rate of 3.3 compared to the EU's of 2.9 it shouldn't take long to change positions on that list. IMHO, what is more scary than the fact that the EU seems to have no real leadership is the things do agree upon. Try reading some of thier decisions some times but be prepared for something akin to a UN type bore-a-thon.

Important things to

Important things to consider -- population size, and per capita income.

With a considerably smaller population, the US still out-classes the EU by a country mile in productivity and per capita income.

Check out my exclusive edit of BBC News America's interview with Mrs Clinton: It's news to me!

Ummm Isn't Europe electing pro-Bush leaders?

I'm pretty sure they are....And I note that it was Germany that they gathered the comments..the youth in Germany to boot! 

Senator Clinton, a week

Senator Clinton, a week before Bush's speech, used similar words as
she argued that Bush should articulate "to every nation in this world,
you're either with us or you're not, and there will be consequences."
And, appearing on the CBS Evening News the same day, she spoke
approvingly of Bush's plan to "make it clear that every nation has to
either be with us or against us."

Well, you know, it's OK with Liberals when a Liberal says that, because they know there's no intention to actually follow through. That's why they never called Clinton a cowboy when he went around vowing to bring to justice or to make them pay (those who had attacked our ships, or bases, or embassies.)

Sometimes I imagine that former President Clinton is travelling the world, searching on his own, for the "real" perpetrators, like OJ Simpsom.

Yes, I want overly

Yes, I want overly oppressed, nanny state nations to tell me what they want. Can I trim the hedges, or service the car for you while I'm at it? Maybe do the windows?

I hope Europe utterly hates the evil Republicans. That will mean they are doing it right!

Of course........there is another theory.........Let's say you thought you could try a little reverse psychology on America. Let's say you weren't as stupid as you look, and you understand that most folks actually like Bush's overall foreign policy. Now you tell those people that Europe thinks Hillary Clinton and George Bush are interchangeable. How many people will hear that and go hmmmm?

I'm just sayin'!

Gary

What on earth do you mean you object to the Nanny staters telling you what to do?  What are you...some kind of antidisestablishmentarian?

Seriously, though, I just got back from the great state of California.  One of the news articles I read there was that the "state" wanted to have remote radio control over everyone's thermostats.....to regulate electricity flow during times of shortages.  Think about this for a minute....it totally blew my mind!

Of course, the regs would only be for new homes, or "substantially renovated" homes.

Talk about liberal illogic at its very finest.  Let's not remove barriers to new sources of power (nuc's)....let's give the state the ability to control our personal temperatures.  Sheesh!  

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Yeah, read the t-stat story

Yeah, read the t-stat story a few days ago. Why the people of California don't revolt en masse is beyond me. Did read where Arnold is looking to cut the budget of every program, across the board? How much you want to be the lefties out there protest THAT instead?

Thank God for Texas!

Here's some info on the

Here's some info on the thermostat thing and even more of what's going on in California.

And this is the vision of Her Royal Clintoness for America...the "we're in it together" and "we're going to take things away from you for the common good" society.

Oh, and she also said she's so "proud" of Obama. Isn't that kind of like taking credit for his accomplishments? Talk about condescension!! Can you imagine if a Republican said that about him?

Why is the left constantly

Why is the left constantly worried that the Euros hate us??? WHO GIVES A %$#@#. Are they that insecure? We are AMERICANS and we march to the beat of our OWN DRUM. That's why we live in a great country! The left can do us AMERICANS a favor and get in line for a lobotomy, they're almost as dumb anyway.

I've quit asking that questio

I'm no longer amazed, but still disgusted that the left in this country continues to look to Europe as some sort of moral compass to judge US domestic and foreign policy.

Today Western Europe can best be described as a place of high taxes, structural unemployment, inability to provide for their own security without the US, and daily descent into a moral and cultural morass that only future revolution will remove them from.

Because, many of those on

Because, many of those on the Left are privileged jetsetters, people who like hanging out at cafes/bistros/pubs/whore-houses in Paris, London, Rome, Amsterdam, etc. (but not former Soviet-bloc places like Warsaw).  Thus, they want to be popular with the chic Europeans.  Of course, our "image" in Europe (and elsewhere) had already been steadily declining well before Bush. 

Is that the Euro-media

Is that the Euro-media talking or is it what the people really think?

The only significant way Clinton is like Bush is her masculinity.

When will BBC call me?

I'm still waiting for the BBC to ask me what I think of Europe.

I, for one, don't care what Europe thinks of us.

England - no-go zones.

France - muslim youths burn cars etc during a riot.

Spain - one terrorist attack and they turn tail and run.

The list goes on. The fact that they are afraid of the entire Republican field puts a warm fuzzy in my belly.

 

Who is Jim Maceda ?

The American Public would be VERY HAPPY if  NBC makes a Clean break with the past 8 years of Broadcasting.

EU MSM Opinion?

I watched that story and it seemed to me that it was channeling the opinion of the EU MSM.

European NewsBusters?

That raises a point:
Is there any European equivalent to NewsBusters?

From what I understand the European MSM, particularly the
BBC, makes the American MSM look fair and balanced! Yikes!

Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat

This pathetic story has only

This pathetic story has only improved my perception of Hillary.  The fact that "Europe" (whatever that means) has reservations about Hillary is only a credit to her.

Hillary: "If you're not

Hillary: "If you're not with me, you're my enemy!"

Europe: "Only Sith deal in absolutes."

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