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Sunday's "NBC Nightly News" featured retired General Barry McCaffrey, NBC News military analyst and "one-time war critic," as he voiced his "surprising new assessment" that conditions in Iraq have improved "dramatically" since the surge. McCaffrey, former Drug Czar of the Clinton administration, remarked: "A year ago, I thought the thing was going over the edge of a cliff. That has changed dramatically in a very short period of time."
Anchor Lester Holt played up McCaffrey's history of being a war critic as he teased the December 23 show: "Reality Check: New progress in Iraq, and a surprising new assessment from a four-star general and one-time war critic, just back from Baghdad." (Transcript follows)
After the show led with two reports regarding the holiday weekend, one on the travel situation and one on last-minute shoppers, Holt introduced the story on Iraq as he touted "measurable progress" and "a dramatic drop" in violence. Holt: "This will be the fifth Christmas American troops have marked the holiday inside Iraq, but this year, for the first time, they will also be celebrating measurable progress on the ground: a dramatic drop in the level of violence. And as NBC's Stephanie Gosk reports, that progress is also changing the lives of the people who live there."
Correspondent Stephanie Gosk began her report by relaying that "improved security in Baghdad means the quality of life for many is turning around" as she showed an Iraqi family having a picnic. She remarked that "the progress has surprised many," and then showed a clip of McCaffrey's comments. McCaffrey: "A year ago, I thought the thing was going over the edge of a cliff. That has changed dramatically in a very short period of time."
Gosk further mentioned that "attacks throughout the country are down 62 percent since March," before focusing on potential problems that could arise in the future. Holt then brought aboard McCaffrey for further discussion. The NBC anchor opened the discussion by again mentioning the retired general's history of being a war critic: "You have been certainly critical of American efforts in Iraq before, but you returned from this trip with an upbeat assessment. How real and how sustainable is this drop in violence we're seeing?"
Before turning the discussion to potential problems in the future, such as the Kurds becoming "possibly the next entrant to this civil war," McCaffrey summarized the improvements in Iraq's security. McCaffrey: "The objective numbers, Lester, are dramatically different. Violence is down, abductions, assassinations, truck bombings. Baghdad, the principal day I was in the city, had two violent incidents in a city of six million people. I was out in Anbar province and drove around Ramadi, which was the Wild West a year ago. And now it's relatively secure."
McCaffrey also complimented "this new Secretary of Defense, Bob Gates, and General David Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker" as "an unbelievable leadership team."
Below is a complete transcript of Gosk's report and the interview with McCaffrey from the Sunday December 23 "NBC Nightly News":
LESTER HOLT, in opening teaser: Reality Check: New progress in Iraq, and a surprising new assessment from a four-star general and one-time war critic, just back from Baghdad.
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LESTER HOLT: This will be the fifth Christmas American troops have marked the holiday inside Iraq, but this year, for the first time, they will also be celebrating measurable progress on the ground: a dramatic drop in the level of violence. And as NBC's Stephanie Gosk reports, that progress is also changing the lives of the people who live there.
STEPHANIE GOSK: Improved security in Baghdad means the quality of life for many is turning around, enough to make even an outdoor picnic possible.
UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN, through translator: A few months ago, we would not have come to this park. We could not do anything, and we locked the doors at 5 PM.
GOSK: The progress has surprised many.
Retired General BARRY MCCAFFREY, NBC News Military Analyst: A year ago, I thought the thing was going over the edge of a cliff. That has changed dramatically in a very short period of time.
GOSK: The U.S. military says that attacks throughout the country are down 62 percent since March. That's because small bases are keeping the peace in Baghdad's most violent neighborhoods. Radical Shia cleric Muqtada al-Sadr declared a cease-fire in September, reining in his militia. And in al-Anbar province, what the military calls an awakening movement. Tribal leaders tired of al-Qaeda's brutal tactics rose up against the insurgents. Still, commanders point out the militants are still out there.
Major General MARK HERTLING, Multinational Division North: Some of the extremists have been pushed east from Anbar province, as they've seen the awakening movement there, and north from Baghdad.
GOSK: And they're going to places like Diyala province, where, just recently, U.S. troops say they found an al-Qaeda torture chamber. And in southern Iraq, where British troops have turned control over to Iraqis, there are fears rival Shia groups will continue to attack each other. But even with the dangers, U.S. commanders are talking about a troop drawdown.
General DAVID PETRAEUS, Multinational Force Iraq, From Fox News Sunday: We want to reduce the strain on our ground forces as much as we can while recognizing that what has been achieved here remains tenuous and is still fragile in a number of areas.
GOSK: Thirty thousand troops will likely be withdrawn by this summer, and the military hopes to pull out an additional five brigades by this time next year. Stephanie Gosk, NBC News, Baghdad.
LESTER HOLT: Retired General Barry McCaffrey, who you saw in Stephanie's report, is an NBC military analyst, and recently returned from a fact-finding mission to Iraq. He joins us now from Washington. General, good evening. You have been certainly critical of American efforts in Iraq before, but you returned from this trip with an upbeat assessment. How real and how sustainable is this drop in violence we're seeing?
General BARRY MCCAFFREY, NBC News Military Analyst: Well, that was a terrific report by Stephanie Gosk. I think she really makes the case. The objective numbers, Lester, are dramatically different. Violence is down, abductions, assassinations, truck bombings. Baghdad, the principal day I was in the city, had two violent incidents in a city of six million people. I was out in Anbar province and drove around Ramadi, which was the Wild West a year ago. And now it's relatively secure. I think we've seen a lot of things happen at the same time. One is this new Secretary of Defense, Bob Gates, and General David Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker are an unbelievable leadership team. And then I think the Iraqis are changing. The Sunnis are trying to get back in the game before our expected pullout-
HOLT: Right.
MCCAFFREY: -and the Shia are actually in a cease-fire mostly. The question is: What happens as we withdraw?
HOLT: And, General, you certainly talk in your report that there's still a lot of unfinished business, there's still a level of violence there. But one thing, I had a double take in your report, you stated that al-Qaeda in Iraq has been defeated at a tactical and operational level in Baghdad and Anbar province. If you take al-Qaeda in Iraq out of the equation, where does that leave the battle?
MCCAFFREY: Well, a lot better off. They were clearly one of the biggest lethal threats to both the Iraqi police and army as well as U.S. forces. Now, having said that, Lester, again, fundamentally this is a civil war. So, the struggle that we're trying to tamp down is between the Shia and the Sunni, with the Kurds possibly the next entrant to this civil war. I don't think that's gone away. Mr. Maliki's got a dysfunctional government. There's a real struggle for political power, which in this society means survival. So, again, let's see what happens. Can reconciliation start at the bottom and work its way up, sort of instigated by greater security by these brave U.S. Marine, Army and special operations units?
HOLT: Right.
MCCAFFREY: Or will it come apart on us?
HOLT: General Barry McCaffrey, we always appreciate your insight. Thanks for being with us tonight.
MCCAFFREY: Good to be with you, Lester.




LESTER HOLT: This will be the fifth Christmas American troops have marked the holiday inside Iraq, but this year, for the first time, they will also be celebrating measurable progress on the ground: a dramatic drop in the level of violence. And as NBC's Stephanie Gosk reports, that progress is also changing the lives of the people who live there.
LESTER HOLT: Retired General Barry McCaffrey, who you saw in Stephanie's report, is an NBC military analyst, and recently returned from a fact-finding mission to Iraq. He joins us now from Washington. General, good evening. You have been certainly critical of American efforts in Iraq before, but you returned from this trip with an upbeat assessment. How real and how sustainable is this drop in violence we're seeing?









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Fantastic
December 24, 2007 - 11:50 ET by KC MulvilleThe leadership is doing a tremendous job. We always use caution, because violence is easy to manufacture, and we suspect that the terrorists know the American political calendar as well as we do. But at least they reported it fairly. That's all we can ask.
Not surprising but welcome
December 24, 2007 - 12:08 ET by doug1950It is not surprising more and more of the anti-war crowd are saying the surge is working. Chances are good that it is working even more successfully than what is being reported due to the reluctance of the MSM to report anything good coming out of the region. These left leaning critics and pundits want to be on record as saying positive things for future opportunities that may come up. Im surprised Hillary hasn't changed her tune yet. Harry Reid has finally admitted its working but of course had to claim some of the credit. Murtha is too stupid to realize its working along with some of the other more vocal critics. I guess they thought it should have worked over a week end rather than months; just goes to show they do not have a glimmer of an idea how things work in a war zone. I suspect we will see dozens of others come out and say it is working now that some of the bigger rats are deserting the Anti-surge ship.
Yet an article on iraq and
December 24, 2007 - 12:50 ET by ziplinedownYet an article on iraq and the recent surge in dec 24 issue of Time magazine is titled, "Hold the cheers"
"give me a break!" - John Stossel
Leaders have to pay for their actions
December 24, 2007 - 13:07 ET by ThisnThat"I believe myself that the secretary of state, secretary of defense and - you have to make your own decisions as to what the president knows - (know) this war is lost and the surge is not accomplishing anything as indicated by the extreme violence in Iraq yesterday," said Reid, D-Nev 30 April 2007.
This person, and the rest of the Dim leadership team, and the Republican individuals who fell lockstep behind Reid need to be fired, immediately. Instead of leadership, these individuals did irreparable damage to the U.S., maligned our troops, bashed our President, and mis-represented not only their constituants, but the entire nation.
They are continuing this by refusing to fund our troops and stand behind our President. These people are as anti-American as any I have ever seen, including the likes of Jane Fonda and John Kerry.
Actions have consequences. Let's teach these people what consequences really mean.
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You Have To Just Scratch Your Head
December 24, 2007 - 16:17 ET by BourbeauI'm sure I'm not the only person thinking this, but I hope the next time we have to engage in a war or conflict, they ban ex-military officers from saturating the airways and print media with their 'experienced perspective'. Who gives a damn what they think? I listen to people like McCaffrey, and Colonel Hunt, and others who have retired, and it sound's like a bunch of hypocritical bureaucrats. Most of these guys know Petraeus, have worked with him, or had him working for them at one point. He obviously got promoted over them, and when you listen to some of them, it's like sour grapes. So my point is, I'm more than happy to get my Iraq assessments to Petraeus and Odierno and to hell with whatever these other "paid consultants" have to say.
Bourbeau... I could not
December 24, 2007 - 20:43 ET by bigtimerBourbeau...
I could not agree more with you than anything you posted.
I have heard in just this one instance McCaffrey go back and forth til I turn it when I see his face or know he is coming up next...
I do not want to hear one word he has to say.
He, along with some others go where they are told to most times by their big-wig party sponsors....which sickens me.