MSNBC's Abrams Hits FNC 'Attack Team,' Defends Matthews

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On Monday's "MSNBC Live with Dan Abrams," host and former MSNBC General Manager Abrams used the show's regular "Beat the Press" segment to respond to criticism by some Fox News personalities of recent anti-Bush comments made by MSNBC's Chris Matthews, and their questioning of whether Matthews is too partisan to host the latest Republican debate. Abrams: "The attack team over at Fox News is trying to get some traction out of comments Chris Matthews made ... Now, in a silly and obvious partisan attack, they're suggesting Matthews shouldn't host the Republican debate." After playing a clip of Bill O'Reilly charging that NBC News was "in the pocket" of the Democratic party, Abrams accused FNC of being "in the pocket" of the Republican party. Abrams: "The Republicans have had Fox News, and O'Reilly in particular, in their pocket on the Republican talking points since 1996." Abrams ultimately defended Matthews as "far less predictable" than Fox News hosts. (Transcript follows)

After playing a clip of FNC's Gretchen Carlson complimenting Brit Hume as their regular moderator of debates, Abrams challenged Hume's objectivity by playing a clip of the FNC host expressing his opinion that "a lot of Democrats" don't take the war on terrorism seriously, which came from a roundtable discussion from the July 29 "Fox News Sunday."

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ABRAMS: They talk about their D.C. Managing Editor, Brit Hume, who I have enormous respect for. But let's not pretend that he's right down the middle, either. Here's the lead member of their "not biased" political team saying that Democrats just don't understand the threat of terrorism.

BRIT HUME, from "Fox News Sunday," dated July 29: Make no mistake about it. This is what a lot of Democrats and those who support them think. They think the war on terror is some kind of a political scam in which the administration, which is using, to try to undermine civil liberties and expand the power of the executive branch of the government. They do not treat it particularly seriously.

Abrams concluded his defense of Matthews as debate moderator: "I say Chris Matthews expresses his opinions on his show, which are far less predictable than any host covering politics on Fox News."

Below is a complete transcript of Abrams' comments from the October 8 "MSNBC Live with Dan Abrams":

DAN ABRAMS: Time for tonight's "Beat the Press," our daily look back at the absurd and sometimes amusing perils of live TV. First up, the attack team over at Fox News is trying to get some traction out of comments Chris Matthews made at the Hardball 10th anniversary party last week. He made reference to this administration, quote, "finally getting caught in their criminality." He was talking about Cheney aide Scooter Libby's conviction. Now, in a silly and obvious partisan attack, they're suggesting Matthews shouldn't host the Republican debate.

BILL O'REILLY, from "The O'Reilly Factor": Now for the top story tonight, for the first time ever, a political party may have a network news organization in its pocket.

ABRAMS: First time ever. The Republicans have had Fox News, and O'Reilly in particular, in their pocket on the Republican talking points since 1996. It seems Fox is very proud of their debate moderators.

GRETCHEN CARLSON: When Fox News does debates, we don't have Sean Hannity. He'd be a great host, but typically we have our political team, who are not biased, do the debates. So it's interesting that MSNBC chooses Chris Matthews.

ABRAMS: Right, interesting. In particular, they talk about their D.C. Managing Editor, Brit Hume, who I have enormous respect for. But let's not pretend that he's right down the middle, either. Here's the lead member of their "not biased" political team saying that Democrats just don't understand the threat of terrorism.

BRIT HUME, from "Fox News Sunday," dated July 29: Make no mistake about it. This is what a lot of Democrats and those who support them think. They think the war on terror is some kind of a political scam in which the administration, which is using, to try to undermine civil liberties and expand the power of the executive branch of the government. They do not treat it particularly seriously.

ABRAMS: Right, fair and balanced. I say Chris Matthews expresses his opinions on his show, which are far less predictable than any host covering politics on Fox News.

—Brad Wilmouth is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.


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I guess I missed it, Dan.

I guess I missed it, Dan. Brit Hume pointed out a fact: there ARE democrats who don't take the war on terror seriously. HeLLOOOO, have you been paying attention at all? I guess you missed the various comments by democrat members of Congress saying the president lied us into the war for political gain. It's not biased to point out the truth, Dan.

While Dam Abrams is smart guy -

- afterall he went to Duke and Coulmbia - he lacks any sense fairness, logic or being truthful. His hate for Bush is so all consuming that he forgets every one sees him for the EMPTY SUIT he is..

Clueless

The problem with the left is that they confuse the truth with "partisain" behavior.

The Hume clip used by Abrams shows Hume telling the truth about a large portion Democrat party, opposed to Matthews who spent a month and a half on "MaCaCa"!

A silly tale....

A progressive democrat gets caught stealing money out of the till red handed, when asked why, the progressive said.."oh yea..well that guy was taking money out of that slot over there"!....to which the officer replied...."that's an ATM machine", the democrat crook counter replied...Bush lied people died.

A liberal lesson learned

Democrat William Jefferson was caught with thousands of dollars hidden in his freezer.

I guess any news media that reports that must be mean spirited and biased and in the pocket of the republican party.

Got it!

Non-paid friend? Non-advisor? Someone who calls, gives advice and hangs up? Sandy who?  - - Hillary trying to figure out what to call Sandy Berger

Abrams isn't clueless, he

Abrams isn't clueless, he is preaching to the choir about big bad Fox. He knows they (MSM)are bias, and he thinks if he bashes Fox and BOR and Hume in particular the choir will help him sing the big bad Fox song. Listen to these people (MSM), truth is irrelevant to them. They are going to get worst before this is over. Hopefully, the people will "wise up" and start ignoring these blatant deceivers

Let's see..Abrams is saying

Let's see..Abrams is saying that people are taking Matthews comments out of context and that he was referring to something else instead of what everyone claims he was saying...gee that sounds familiar..isn't that what Rush defenders were saying and Abrams and the rest of the MSM shot that defense down claiming "No he said what we said he said period!!!!".

You can't have it both ways guys..Matthews said what he said and unlike Rush there were not any other comments after the first remarks making it clear what he was talking about.

 

"If the mothers ruled the world there would be no god**** wars in the first place." Sally Fields

Yea Mothers like Susan Smith and Andrea Yates.

The GOP

(Grownups Only Party) shows its class and willingness to debate the issues by appearing at this blatently biased network, MSNBC (Must Support Nobody But Clinton). The democrat party takes its ball and goes home when asked to appear on FOX.

I went for a walk last night and she asked me how long I was going to
be gone. I said, "The whole time".

-Steven Wright

Rush said 2 words to a

Rush said 2 words to a caller: "phony soldiers." The media fertilized
and grew that into "soldiers who oppose the war are phony soldiers." An
even more egregious instance was John Murtha saying of US soldiers
"they killed civilians in cold blood!" Sounds pretty plain, no? Well,
no, according to Murtha. He then said he was just trying to point out
that the current (at that time) strategy was not working. And they all
said Oh, OK then, 'nuff said.

And have you ever noticed that when the Democrats say someone was taken "out of context", they never actually supply the context in which it was? To them "taken out of context" means "misunderstood."

AIR AMERICA TELEVISION NEWS...

I was under the impression that television was a ratings driven buisiness, you need rating to sell ads, & when you sell ads, you make money. That brings me to Dan Abrams, he is the GM at MSNBC, the network's ratings suck. I heard the average number of viewers in the key demo during the day was around 50-60 thousand. They get thier butt handed to them day after day, week after week, & year after year. They just had a 10th birthday party for "Hardball" with Barny Rubble. Most of that in 3rd place, John Gibson has been kicking his @$$ for years, so has CNN. At what point do those in charge at NBC news finally give Dan Abrams the sack? It's gotta be sweet to not have to be competitive & keep your gig in a hyper-competitive industry.

Keep doing what you are doing over there in the Jersey swamp Abrams, & maybe someday, you'll earn a place at the adult's table & not have sit with the kiddies at the card table in the other room. Or you could save money & put up a test pattern for much of the day, nobody will notice.

"Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise"  Mark Levin

Weak Arguement

So Dan Abrams thinks it's okay to have a news network that is biased because another news network is biased? That's pretty weak. And by the way Dan, for your one example from Fox News, I can give you a thousand examples from your network. I'm not just talking about your left wing water carriers Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews. I'm talking about the person in charge of delivering the straight news on your network, Mika Brzezinski. She can't go five minutes without displaying her liberal bias.

There is a reason

There is a reason MSNBC doesn't have an audience, it will come to me, wait for it.

Why didn't DIMS go to FNC for debate!!

Ah, only when it fits the template!  Dems wouldn't go on FNC to debate at all, but when someone on the other side says something about just the moderator, then it's a BIG DEAL!  Heck, these people don't even throw knuckleballs to their own, much less HARDBALLS to then-only slow pitch softballs!  Is the general American public so dumb or so uninterested not to realize this!!  The DIM attack machine is on and going after any Radio or TV host, show, network, etc., that does not help to get a DIM in the White House.  This is the 2008 campaign slogan for Dims-"WHITEWASH TO THE WHITE HOUSE"!  Could also be "HOGWASH TO THE WHITE HOUSE"! 

Dear Abrams ......

Fox news is not "trying to get some traction", They HAVE more traction than an Abrams Tank on this issue......the issue of MSNBC being led by the Democratic party.

Sorry, but you've been discovered in the bushes, along with Sandy Burler and a host of "un-Paid", Democratic activists.  But if you call Hillary on the phone, you're someone whom she will answer.

Sorry about your ratings, and your Organization's total lack of appeal to the American Public.

Sorry that you're pretty Sorry organization. Kiss my (_._)

What good is a Free Press, if it is a False Press ?   David Foote  GoE

Communism is alive and

Communism is alive and well, and this is just a tiny part of the whole strategy to destroy conservatism.  Check out this article by James Lewis, "The Evidence for Neocommunism". 

 

The methods of Neocommunism parallel those of Old Communism to an astonishing degree.

The routine use of orchestrated group lying (so that many different people are  suddenly making the same accusation);

The constant use of innocent-sounding front groups like MoveOn.org and Media Matters;

The use of stooges (like military retirees, both real and phony);

The need to whip up the rage of the faithful with constant disinformation about the enemy (i.e., America and conservatives);

The infiltration of media and government. Members of the seventies left are sprinkled throughout these institutions, carrying out the long march. These tricks are all straight out of the old, old playbook. Karl Marx really was a genius agitator and revolutionary plotter, though nothing else. Marx is still the model.

Matthews is just a shill.

"The future is not set.  There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."

http://www.michaelyon-online.com

Communism

So right, Nofate. Communism is alive and well in America. Everyone should read Witness by Whitaker Chambers. Unfortunately, we are also witnessing Communism in action today and are apathetic towards its consequences. It's the true menace which will ultimately bring us down.

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

Communism

iveseenitall:  yeah, I'm starting to go on like my father did, and I thought he was silly.  Now I'm doing it!  Witness is definitely on my "to read" list.  There is a wealth of info out there if only people would pay attention.  Gulag ArchepelagoThe Black Book of Communism.  Frontpagemag has a wealth of info and reading lists on their site about modern ties to old and modern commie networks:  example:  PamphletRadical Road Maps: Uncovering the Web of Connections Among Far-Left Groups in America  :

As Byron York puts it, “More than a decade after the fall of the Soviet Union, and long after most Americans stopped worrying about the Red Menace,” a significant part of the movement that has risen up in opposition to war in Iraq is, in essence, a Communist front.5

This reflects the fact that some Islamic groups and their supporters have been working with various Communist-oriented groups over the past thirty years (my emphasis), as they share a common enemy—the United States.

This info ties in with the article by Lewis that I mentioned above, and another by Michael Geer, Osama Bin Marx and the Real Jihad:

...Communist agents teaching, propagandizing and twisting their dialectic in order to get Revolutionary Islam to fall in line with Communist long range goals. They're not called Revolutionary Guards by happy accident in Iran. Their penetration was nothing less than amazing, given that Communism is the zenith of scientific atheism. But communism tilled a fertile field in Islam to build up a terrifying cult to wage war upon us...today's radical Islamist is little more than the Left's next great act in their Death Cult. Even as they shout the name of their god, they are fodder for the Revolutionary Ethos begun by Communists nearly a century ago...I ask you to clearly recognize what is all around you. The shadow war is seeping into everything you hold dear. As Victor David Hanson said in Mexifornia:

" .. we have not yet experienced all the consequences of the big bang of multiculturalism, authoritarianism, Utopianism, and cultural relativism - isms that tell young people that facts, dates, people and hard data are either irrelevant, biased or simply not facts at all and that to question such dogma could be "racist" ... " [1]

And in Mexifornia the estimable Mr. Hanson points to but one of the thousands of heads on the hydra. Progressives, for instance. Anytime you read progressive know that you are dealing with the shadow war of revolutionary marxism (my emphasis). Even the Church is subsumed into this religion of revolutionary Marx through Liberation Theology.
This war is everywhere and in everything, like toxic clouds from Chernobyl. And you can see the fetid seeds of communism in every utterance of jihadists after you know his leaders were educated at the Sorbonne. 

More tie ins:  September 10, 2007, The 'Bin Trotsky' Video and the Jihadi Failure in Iraq, By Walid Phares.  Note the date.  Note that the date ties in with the newest revelation about the compromising of our intelligence of Qaeda networks on the internet.  What element of the shadow government leaked that tape before 9-11, thereby compromising that intelligence?  Now the CIA has begun putting out the story on FNC, and other stations I'm sure, that U.S. government intelligence is not compromised, this was just a private company that lost their keyway into the Qaeda nets.  OK.  But I digress:

[Bin Laden]...reciting recycled neo-Marxism of the kind usually generated at Berkeley, Columbia or the web sites of the anarchic and post-Soviet internationalists...

Phares is pointing out the marxist slant in this tape, although he seems to think that it is just an experiment due to the influence of Adam Gadahn.

Then there is an article from 11/26/2001, Postmodern Jihad:  What Osama bin Laden learned from the Left.  by Waller R. Newell:

...This vision of the postmodernist revolution went straight from Heidegger into the French postwar Left, especially the works of Jean-Paul Sartre, eager apologist for Stalinism and the Cultural Revolution in China. Sartre's protege , the Algerian writer Frantz Fanon, crystallized the Third World variant of postmodernist revolution in "The Wretched of the Earth" (1961). From there, it entered the world of Middle Eastern radicals. Many of the leaders of the Shiite revolution in Iran that deposed the modernizing shah and brought the Ayatollah Khomeini to power in 1979 had studied Fanon's brand of Marxism. Ali Shari'at, the Sorbonne-educated Iranian sociologist of religion considered by many the intellectual father of the Shiite revolution, translated "The Wretched of the Earth" and Sartre's "Being and Nothingness into Persian." The Iranian revolution was a synthesis of Islamic fundamentalism and European Third World socialism...MANY ELEMENTS in the ideology of al Qaeda--set forth most clearly in Osama bin Laden's 1996 "Declaration of War Against America"--derive from this same mix...According to Cairo journalist Issandr Elamsani, Arab leftist intellectuals still see the world very much in 1960s terms. "They are all ex-Sorbonne, old Marxists," he says, "who look at everything through a postcolonial prism." 

It is all out there and available, but unfortunately, it seems as if not very many are listening.  But we keep trying.    

 

"The future is not set.  There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."

http://www.michaelyon-online.com

Communism

Communism- Just read my book. It's all in there. : )

There might be a couple of

There might be a couple of good ideas in there :)   But they have done such a good job of marginalizing him, per the game plan, that most people wouldn't give him a second thought.  It is a shame that they can get away with ruining the name and legacy of a great American, who had his faults to be sure, as we all do.  Orwell had it right, it was just his timing that was off, newspeak is operational and ongoing. 

 

"The future is not set.  There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."

http://www.michaelyon-online.com

Dan ... Dan ... Dan

Dan ... Dan ... Dan ...

When is MSNBC going to learn you can't make a catapult out of used tooth picks and Popsicle sticks and bubble gum from under Chris Matthews' desk?

Matthews on Today Show

Chrissy was on Today show talking(hollering) about the debate.  Wouldn't let anyone else get a word in for longest time!  Then they throw him softball of his recent comment that "Bush Administration finally caught in criminial activity" and he says it was meant to be the Scooter Libby trial, etc.  Didn't quite explain it, Chrissy!  Again, I say why is it that when Repubs complain about 1 little thing, they're afraid, etc., but when the Dims refuse to even go on a network debate(FNC) hosted by the BLACK CAUCUS no one thinks it is a big deal, in fact the Dims are applauded for standing to their principals[didn't know they had such!] and FNC is made to look like a lynch mob place! 

Dan Abrams

It would appear that jealousy of FOX News is running rampant over at MSNBC news with Abrams at its helm.

As his network slowly, or maybe even fastly(?) sinks into oblivion,  the phrase “me thinks thy protest too much” comes to mind as Abrams, having turned MSNBC news into ‘tabloid central’, finds he must out-Olbermann Olbermann as a means of keeping his network alive.

It’s clear that Abrams doesn’t understand that it’s the viewers that make a network successful, and they have determined that they don’t like a jabbering, pontificating, agenda-driven, political sycophant, as he comes across.

Poor Dan, he just don’t get no respect.

Same old

Libs want EIB off armed forces radio.

Libs are 'investigating' Rush, Levin, and Hannity.

Libs FOX is not fair and balanced.

Libs cannot win on ideas, they have none. As such this is a great opportunity for today's participants. Those who refuse to allow Matthews to irritate them, take a light approach, and present facts will impress the audience.

JDW

Sen Clinton: Founder of Media Matters

 

This is really funny

Abrams defending Matthews? Isn't that like Tweedle-dee defending Tweedle-dum? Here's the truth: MSNBC bosses are well aware of what a fool Matthews makes of himself every night. They get angry letters, ratings are awful and they are losing money big time on this basket case. Abrams was told to get out there and defend Matthews, make him look good and smart (an impossible task, of course) to jack Matthews' ratings up from the toilet.

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