Democrats don't know the meaning of victory. But they've been pretty familiar with losing, which is maybe why the question was framed that way.

I think it's telling that this dweeb didn't even begin to dispute the result; he just went right to the spin. Just goes to show that our perception of them is dead on.

Nineteen percent of democrats are certifiably stupid. 

And self-admittedly so.  Go figure. I'd like to see what Reid, Pelosi, & Murtha replied...Ten to one they're all in the certifiably stupid category. 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

And of those 19%, 75% of them frequent Newsbusters....

And who do these 19% want to win?

If we lose, someone will be victorious. Or is the thought that a weakened America itself is good for the world regardless of who emerges out of the ashes of Iraq. There is the saying that there are liberals who believe that there isn't a problem in the world that can't be solved simply by having the US walk away from it or not be involved.

Or in this case, having the US defeated.

But that's silly if not, more seriously, a form of self-loathing or self-hatred. One must examine the full consequences of our defeat. Someone will win. Someone will replace us in Iraq. Who will that party be?

It's much like the question for those who wish to see the US withdraw from the world and not be the dominant power. If the US is not the dominant power in the world, some country (or countries) will replace us. That's been the recorded history of the world since the establishment of the nation state (if not before then).

So, the question emerges: If the US isn't the dominant power, which country do you wish to see replace us? 

Because someone will.

SMG 

I thought this question was pretty much decided already. I've been watching the news for years and the answer to that question falls somewhere between a resounding 'No!' to simply dodging the question because they don't want to admit a 'Yes' in a soundbite. I thought we've all agreed that we need to win.

The picture we aren't seeing is all the people that call for withdrawl never are willing to be honest with themselves with what will Iraq be like when we're gone. The democrats say Bush is in denial, I say the democrats are in denial. They desperately don't want to link their desire to withdraw troops to Iraq breaking down into bedlam. Their discourse ends at withdraw, with no mind paid to what happens a month, a year later.

It's four years later, we have to get past the Michael Moore conspiracy theories about WMD, Bush lying and the broken democratic record about how we got into this war. We need to start fresh and work for the future.

"Boats are safe in the harbor, but that's not what they're made for." -- Maritime quote

Mother Jones magazine just released a poll that said 19% of Republicans weren't sure if intentionally running over boxes of kittens was a bad idea. 

 The only victory Democrats care about is 2008. They don't want anything, even an American victory, to screw that up.  They certainly have convoluted reasoning going for them.  Barrack doesn't want to wear an American flag, on his lapel, says his actions will speak for him, as he continues with the anti-war rhetoric.

I'm sure those 20% were feeling really great, this week, as the Democrats attacked Limbaugh all week. It's the little things that make their little hearts go pitter patter, not anything like a victory.

Democrats: Specializing in "high tech lynching" since 1987.

A peaceful Iraq will never happen until Muslim extremeists rule the country. The moderates must respond by killing them off.

We are stupid to give all this money to Iraq to rebuild when they don't believe in freedom of religion. Islam only progresses by violence, so trying to fix a county of Muslims is crazy.

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Liberals hate this country right? I mean, that's what you people have been saying since time began, right? They sucked up to the communists during the cold war and they're busy gettin' lawyers and protecting habeaus corpus for terrorists now, right? So is it really a surprise that the people you've been saying hate us, really HATE US? Do you people not believe the things you claim?  Sean Hannity,  racist enabler and best buddy of genocidal maniac Mark Furhman, CONTINUES to miss the FOREST for all the TREES!

 The surprising number, the completely FLABBERGASTING number is the FIVE PERCENT OF REPUBLICANS THAT WANT US TO LOSE!!!! Fake Christians, Bathroom Stalkers,  Perverted E-mailers, Log (eww)Cabin "Republicans", what's next Transgendered Republicans? LMAO, now you got the "traitor" Republicans, too?  Good to know the "family values" party (ROFLMAO), is doing so well. No wonder I'm an INDEPENDANT.

Remember, many of our friends on the left are "globalists." The fate of this country matters not.

Of course, in the event we should actually lose, their precious "globe" is going to turn into a mass burial ground for infidels.

I wonder at which point these same "globalists" will finally realize that the Islamic barbarians consider them to be infidels themselves.

When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.