CNN Pushes Gun Control in Philadelphia, Blames Concealed Carry for Crime


On Thursday's "Anderson Cooper 360," CNN's Randi Kaye filed a story in which she promoted gun control as a solution for Philadelphia's crime problems, as she pushed the argument that the city's high rate of gun violence was the result of Pennsylvania state lawmakers voting to loosen gun laws in the 1990s. And, as if criminals would bother to apply for a permit to legally carry a concealed weapon, Kaye further suggested that the availability of concealed carry permits has contributed to the city's problems. Kaye: "In 1995 there were fewer than 800 applications for concealed weapons here. 'Keeping Them Honest,' we checked, and today there are 29,000 permits to carry. And it's against the law for police to ask anyone why they want one. One law enforcement source told me permits to carry are being passed out like candy." A blog posting on the show's Web site based on this story can be seen here. (Transcript follows)

After a report by correspondent Jim Acosta that recounted the story of security guards who were attacked by a gunman in Philadelphia, Acosta mentioned that the city's police commissioner "took the nation's presidential candidates to task" for not making gun control an election issue. Host Anderson Cooper cited statistics on the number of armored car attacks in 2006, and then introduced Kaye's report as part of the show's regular "Keeping Them Honest" segment. While Cooper promised a look at "all the angles in a debate with deadly stakes," the report in no way examined the evidence that high rates of gun ownership can combat crime.

Kaye began her report complaining that in Philadelphia, "getting a gun is about as easy as ordering a pizza." The CNN correspondent featured clips of Philadelphia community activist Ray Jones Jr., and passed on his complaints about the city's inability to enact gun control laws because state law forbids it. Kaye: "More than 85 percent of the hundreds of murders in Philadelphia this year have been committed with a firearm. Jones blames state lawmakers for failing to pass tougher gun laws and preventing cities like Philadelphia from setting their own gun laws, even though they desperately want to."

Kaye then recounted that in the 1990s, the Pennsylvania state legislature overturned an assault weapons ban, made it easier to obtain a concealed weapons permit, and passed the Uniform Firearms Act, before introducing State Senator Vincent Fumo, a pro-gun Democrat from the state. Kaye started off challenging him: "A lot of people say that's what, it's this act that took away the power from cities."

After a soundbite of Fumo contending that "they're misinformed on that," Kaye's response suggested that the accessibility of concealed weapon permits presents a problem for Philadelphia's safety. Kaye: "In 1995 there were fewer than 800 applications for concealed weapons here. 'Keeping Them Honest,' we checked, and today there are 29,000 permits to carry. And it's against the law for police to ask anyone why they want one. One law enforcement source told me, permits to carry are being passed out like candy."

She then turned to gun control advocate David Kairys, a professor from Temple University, and, without challenge, relayed his desire to require registration and licensing of guns, and to limit the number of gun purchases. Kaye: "Constitutional law professor David Kairys believes if Philadelphia had home rule, a lot would change. Guns would have to be registered and licensed, and there would be a limit on gun purchases."

The story did not delve into any evidence that high rates of gun ownership can reduce crime, and only displayed soundbites from Fumo that made relatively weak arguments, such as arguing that "Last time I checked, we had a law against murder. It doesn't prevent people from killing people."

She again challenged the pro-gun Fumo: "The governor, the mayor, the D.A., they all want stricter gun laws here. They say that's the only way to reduce crime."

Kaye concluded: "So the tug of war over lawmaking continues, and so does the killing."

Below is a transcript of relevant portions from the Thursday October 4 "Anderson Cooper 360":

ANDERSON COOPER, after a story on the Philadelphia armored car robbery: Jim, the police commissioner has come under a lot of criticism for the way he's handling the high crime rate in the city. How did he respond to today's incident?

JIM ACOSTA: Well, this commissioner has offered the extraordinary and very controversial proposal to put 10,000 volunteers on the street to patrol the city's most violent neighborhoods, but he said today even 20,000 volunteers probably would not have made the difference this morning. But the commissioner also took the nation's presidential candidates to task today, saying they need to pay more attention to the issue of gun control. Anderson?

COOPER: All right. Jim Acosta, appreciate it. Hold-ups involving armored vehicles are actually very rare in America. Here's the raw data: The FBI reports 37 armored vehicle incidents in 2006 -- 30 involved the use of a firearm. Overall, more than $4 million were taken. The one person killed, though, in the armored car incident in 2006 was actually a suspect.

COOPER: Here's some more raw data. Pennsylvania lawmakers have voted year after year to loosen state gun laws. Most of the legislators did not represent big cities, but one of them does. And what's more, he led the charge to make it impossible for those same cities -- in this case, Philadelphia -- to enact their own tougher regulations. CNN's Randi Kaye now looking at all the angles in a debate with deadly stakes, "Keeping Them Honest."

RANDI KAYE: In Philadelphia, getting a gun is about as easy as ordering a pizza. Are guns flooding the streets here in Philadelphia?

RAY JONES, JR., Men United for a Better Philadelphia: Yes, they are.

KAYE: Each week, Ray Jones, along with other community volunteers, works to convince those most at risk of being shot or shooting someone to make smarter choices.

JONES: It's about survival. People are dying in the streets, and we need to help.

KAYE: That help, Jones says, isn't coming from the state. More than 85 percent of the hundreds of murders in Philadelphia this year have been committed with a firearm. Jones blames state lawmakers for failing to pass tougher gun laws and preventing cities like Philadelphia from setting their own gun laws, even though they desperately want to.

JONES: It really would be appropriate for the city to determine its own sort of destiny. Now our hands are sort of handcuffed.

KAYE: Back in 1994, a power struggle started when the legislature overturned an assault weapons ban, making AK-47s as easy to get as hunting rifles. The next year, rules were eased on concealed weapons. And Vincent Fumo, state senator and gun owner, pushed through the Uniform Firearms Act, making all gun laws uniform for the state of Pennsylvania. A lot of people say that's what, it's this act that took away the power from cities.

State Senator VINCENT FUMO (D-PA): No, they're misinformed. They're misinformed on that.

KAYE: In 1995 there were fewer than 800 applications for concealed weapons here. "Keeping Them Honest," we checked, and today there are 29,000 permits to carry. And it's against the law for police to ask anyone why they want one. One law enforcement source told me, permits to carry are being passed out like candy.

DAVID KAIRYS, Temple University: It's like the Wild West.

KAYE: Constitutional law professor David Kairys believes if Philadelphia had home rule, a lot would change. Guns would have to be registered and licensed, and there would be a limit on gun purchases. The way the law stands now-

DAVID KAIRYS, TEMPLE UNIVERSITY: You could buy 50, 100, whatever your credit card would take. Then you can resell them.

KAYE: Kairys thinks there would be stiffer penalties for so-called straw purchasers, too, who legally buy guns only to sell them to those who can't. There's no way of telling just how many legal or illegal guns are on the street. Police have no way of knowing since state law doesn't require gun owners register their weapons. Each year Philadelphia police recover about 7,000 guns -- so many guns they're running out of room, and so many shootings police have a backlog of weapons to examine, test fire, and trace back to the trigger man.

FUMO: People want to think that this is the Wild West, we don't have any laws. What we don't have is enforcement of those laws.

KAYE: Senator Fumo argues tougher gun laws alone won't stop shootings.

FUMO: Last time I checked, we had a law against murder. It doesn't prevent people from killing people.

KAYE: The governor, the mayor, the D.A., they all want stricter gun laws here. They say that's the only way to reduce crime.

FUMO: Sure, it's a great way to get away from enforcement. It's a great way of avoiding the issue of hiring more police.

KAYE: So the tug of war over lawmaking continues-

JONES: It's going to be a shooting gallery.

KAYE: -and so does the killing. Randi Kaye, CNN, Philadelphia.


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Doomed to repeat

She again challenged the pro-gun Fumo: "The governor, the mayor, the D.A., they all want stricter gun laws here. They say that's the only way to reduce crime."

And how did strict gun control laws work for the liberal shining light that is Washington DC?

Why bother looking at history when you can continue to promote failed policies?

"There is a tendency for the world to say to America, 'the big problems of the world are yours, you go and sort them out,' and then to worry when America wants to sort them out." - Tony Blair

A real journalist would

A real journalist would have told us more.

What percentage of murders were committed by those who have permits to carry?

 

I'm guessing it's extremely low. And what the hell difference does it make that there are 29,000 permits issued. If you don't have a criminal record and you pass the background check then I don't care if 5 million are packing.

It's called The Constitution. That piece of paper that the moonbats think is a 'living document' and subject to change whenever their emotions overflow.

Playbook

One must eventaully take a minute to evaluate the incessant news media/lib crap. What ever changes?

How long has this gun BS been shoved down our throats?

How many other playbook items continue to be pushed in front of our faces EVERY DAY?

Where has the lib party evolved over the course of the last 3 decades? What are the new ideas? How are they attempting to improve America?

If one were to stand in front of a mirror and dissect the lib legislation, what doesn't appear to be circular? How often do the same themes magically reappear? What is ever new?

JDW

Sen Clinton: Founder of Media Matters

 

All I can say is these

All I can say is these people really need to take off their rose-colored glasses and face reality about the 2nd Amendment and gun control.

Just once would be nice....the agenda driven fools.

What is really funny is the election season is coming up...how many dem's do they think are going to side with their blatant BS before an election...eh?

Btw...Whenever I see or hear Randi Kaye is going to be on I click it if I can get to the clicker fast enough...I rarely watch CNN anyway except for the afternoon show with Blitzer, then I still have steam coming from my head...lol. 

Idiot Mayor

Yeah, I saw his press conference and he was whining that 'gun control' wasn't a topic for Presidential candidates.

Doesn't it make you warm and fuzzy when democRATS use the deaths of people to forward a political agenda?  

Indoctrinate-U 

Our Education. Their Politics.

I'm all for the Dem

I'm all for the Dem presidential candidates coming out in favor of strict gun control, and even confiscation. It would throw PA back into contention and maybe even make it red in 2008.

Put it to 'em Kay. Demand answers from Hillary and Edwards and Obama. Maybe they just hate big cities. :-)

 

Randi Kaye

I actually know Randi Kaye in her "roots" back in Minnesota when she was Randi Holland I think it was pretending to be Randi Kaye there and now at CNN.

Kaye was the leggy, toothy bombshell of WCCO, sexing up the skyline with Don Shelby as I recall. She ended with this huge diamond that looked like the Hope Diamond and soon after flew the coop for Chickencom National Network........where today she spews communist anti American attacks against the Second Ammendment.

Well in any case the 39 year old bottle blonde has only got a few more years left spewing communist doctrine she knows is bullship as not even face lifts will keep the CNN lure or lust and they will discard her to the bag bin of wrinkles for a new talent to betray the people who made her what she was....and not the con artist she is now.

Wonder if this site would benefit from publishing personal information on the big shot liberals in media with the same stories they bushwhack other people with.

PS: I wonder how much she had to put out to get into the gun room and hold that big gun.........no doubt the smile and short skirt with a very lengthy hand holding helped a great deal on another dupe as CNN only goes so far.

 

 

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Homocides

Did Randi mention how many of the hundreds of unlawful homocides in Philadelphia were committed by holders of concealed carry permits?  If Randi's contention is that concealed weapons permits increase crime, that's an important figure.

Did Randi demonstrate in the piece that concealed weapons permits were issued to people with criminal records or mental health problems?  Did she show the program was poorly administered?

Allen... You had me going

Allen...

You had me going with "Homo-cides". 

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Let's try it again

Lets try homicide then.

I can see why big government

I can see why big government and criminal's would like gun control.  What I don't understand is why a citizen of the United States would want to give up that Constitutional right? Do people *really* believe criminals will give up there guns?

a typical red herring

Washington D.C. unconstitutionally outlawed firearms in the city. What is important to this argument is that before this decision was reversed in the courts, the crime rate in D.C soared because the only ones who had weapons were the criminals and the police. On the flip side, there is a city in Georgia which in the the late '90s passed an ordinance requiring all heads of housholds to own a gun. It's crime rate has plumeted to well below the national average. These two empiracle examples all but prove that it's not the availability of guns but the level playing feild that affects criminals. By nature, most criminals are cowards and will not attack in a situation where there is question about the outcome.

The same argument could be used each time someone is killed in a car accident. Why does no one cry for cars to be outlawed in order to stop all the highway deaths in this counry? The right to drive a car does not even exist, but is a priviledge that is under the control of the States. Meanwhile the right to keep and bear arms is an absolute right that is acknowledged in the 2nd amendment of the US Constitution.



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C5, the anti-gunners

C5, the anti-gunners absolutely hate it when you bring up Kennesaw, Georgia and its must own gun law in a debate. They also hate it when you bring up that when Florida passed its "shall issue" Concealed Carry Permit law the crime rate went down in a hurry. And, shame on you for bringing it up. You wouldn't want to confuse any poor liberal with facts in a debate, would you?

"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan

Was he licensed?

Where is the part of the story that shows that the perp' got his weapon legally? Yes most criminals can get a gun on the street as easily as a pizza but, did the killer have a permit, did he buy it legally? What is the point of the piece?

Also, the name of the killer sounds oddly foreign, is he here legally? Hmmmm!  

The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a government program...........Ronald Reagan

 

Questions for Randi at the Communist-News-Network

Question for Randi Kaye at the Communist-News-Network what percentage of people licensed for concealed carry in PA have committed unlawful acts with a firearm?   

Nation wide statistics have steadfastly shown that people licensed for concealed carry are far less likely to be involved in unlawful acts with a firearm then people who do not have a concealed carry license.  Every state that has instituted concealed carry has seen a dramatic drop in violent crime.  

Another question for Randi Kaye at the Communist-News-Network why is that Vermont which most closely follows the Second Amendment where anyone in state or out of state can carry a canceled firearm and without licensing has one of the lowest violent firearm crime rates per capita in the country? 

  • "Violent crime rates are highest overall in states with laws severely limiting or prohibiting the carrying of concealed firearms for self-defense". (FBI Uniform Crime Reports, 1992).
  • The total Violent Crime Rate is 26% higher in the restrictive states (798.3 per 100,000 pop.) than in the less restrictive states (631.6 per 100,000)
  • The Homicide Rate is 49% higher in the restrictive states 10.1 per 100,000) than in the states with less restrictive CCW laws (6.8 per 100,000).
  • The Robbery Rate is 58% higher in the restrictive states (289.7 per 100,000) than in the less restrictive states (183.1 per 100,000).
  • The Aggravated Assault Rate is 15% higher in the restrictive states (455.9 per 100,000) than in the less restrictive states (398.3 per 100,000).
  • Using the most recent FBI data (1992), homicide trends in the 17 states with less restrictive CCW laws compare favorably against national trends, and almost all CCW permittees are law-abiding.
  • Since adopting CCW (1987), Florida's homicide rate has fallen 21% while the U.S. rate has risen 12%. From start-up 10/1/87 - 2/28/94 (over six years) Florida issued 204,108 permits: only 17 (0.008%) were revoked because permittees later committed crimes (not necessarily violent) in which guns were present (not necessarily used).
  • Of 14,000 CCW licensees in Oregon, only 4 (0.03%) were convicted of the criminal (not necessarily violent) use or possession of a firearm.

 MSM (Main-Stream-Media): Arrogant intellectually dishonest LIBERALS teaching those stupid peasants how to vote by way of selective reporting, misinformation, propaganda, and out right lies.

The Truth, Good job, I

The Truth,

Good
job, I was doing a search to find just the info you posted!

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Philly's high crime rate & Our Liberal Judges

As a 30 year veteran in law enforcement here in Philadelphia, I marvel at the consistent failure of the liberal press here (there is no other kind in Philadelphia) to refuse to report on the judiciaries failure to incarcerate the felons convicted of violent crimes. Philadelphia, as most people know, is a bastion of liberal thought. Our Mayor, the majority of our city council, the police commissioner, and the District Attorney are all members of the democratic party. All, with the possible exception of the DA could be described as liberal. While the DA appears to be tough on crime issues, when given the opportunity all of our leaders, including the DA, will jump to repeat the liberal scream for  more gun control legislation regardless if the facts of the case point to another cause and effect. They all totally disregard the fact that the majority of the shooters of these weapons should be in jail and unavailable to wreak havoc on the streets of the city . Were in not for the liberal democratic judges in our judiciary these convicts would be sitting in jail and not stalking the citizenry of our city.  Our local media refuse to report on this aspect of the problem due to their desired agenda of stricter gun control laws as well as their refusal to put a liberal judge on a hot seat regarding this issue.  Meanwhile, the bodies are piling up in the city of brotherly love and all our political and police leaders can do about it is crow about liberal political talking points. Namely, gun control. The fact that we already have laws on the books to cover illegal guns on the streets is not relevant to them. The fact that the street urchins committing these heinous crimes could care less what the law says about gun control is beyond them.        

Just for fun, lets drop 

Just for fun, lets drop  Randi Kaye off on market street, and see how much she would
like to have a gun in her hand.

 

So tell me, just how many of these people were killed by
someone that has a Concealed weapon permit??

 

http://inquirer.philly.com/graphics/homicide_map_2007/default.asp

 

I have a CCW, you have to go to class, you are finger
printed, and undergo a complete background check.

So with that in mind, how many people that are going to kill
someone with a gun goes to get finger printed at the “police department”??

 

 

Some 6 years ago I had a sailboat docked under the Benjamin
Franklin Bridge, in Philly. I was on my boat one Fri. night and decided to walk
up to a convenience store, about 3 blocks away. There were (with out
exaggeration) 4 armed guards at the store. I asked the store attendent how they
afford it, he just shrugged. Then laughed and said: would you work here with
out them? I said I guess not. I kept my hand on my gun the walk back to the
boat.

These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc.
Ronald Reagan- 40th Anniversary of D-Day

"Another question for Randi

"Another question for Randi Kaye at the Communist-News-Network why is
that Vermont which most closely follows the Second Amendment where
anyone in state or out of state can carry a canceled firearm and
without licensing has one of the lowest violent firearm crime rates per
capita in the country? "

I could make a guess, but it wouldn't be a very "PC" one.

KAYE: In 1995 there were

KAYE: In 1995 there were fewer than 800 applications for
concealed weapons here. "Keeping Them Honest," we checked, and today
there are 29,000 permits to carry. And it's against the law for police to ask
anyone why they want one. One law enforcement source told me, permits to carry
are being passed out like candy.

1995 right???

This is from 1997: http://inquirer.philly.com/packages/crime/html/041897.asp

414 PEOPLE WERE KILLED IN 1996 IN PHILY. = 34.5 PER MONTH.

 

203 PEOPLE WERE KILLED IN 2007 IN PHILY in 6 months= 33.8
PER MONTH.

 

That’s funny I found out this info in about 30 min. I guess
that CNN did not look, what do you think??

These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc.
Ronald Reagan- 40th Anniversary of D-Day

Gee, next thing you know

Gee, next thing you know there will be breathless story about how crime is going down, but the number of felons keep filling up our "over crowded" prisons!

Oh! Wait a minute . . .

The drive by media regularly does this story and is, as always, totally amazed at the incongruity of it.

Go figure . . .

Look no matter how you

Look no matter how you slice it up, there is a large part of
the problem that is related to race, drugs, lack of parents, lack of
enforcement, lack of jobs, bad schools (no choice of schools).

Here is a site that has lots of info on race and crime.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm

 

Compare that info to the percentage of blacks in a city and
then to crime. Sorry to be so un-PC but the facts are the facts.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0884135.html

 

*Most Dangerous Cities*

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0921299.html

 

ST. Louis – 51% black

Detroit- 81% black

Flint Mi- 53.3% black

Compton Ca- 40% black, Hispanic (56.8%)

Camden NJ- 53% black, Hispanic 39%

Birmingham Ala- 73.5% black

Cleveland OH- 51%

Oakland Ca- 36% black 22% Hispanic

Youngstown OH- 44% black

Gary Ind- 84% black

Richmond Ca- 36% black, 26.5 % Hispanic

Baltimore MD- 64% black

Memphis Tn- 61% black

Trenton NJ- 52% black, Hispanic 25%

Richmond Va- 57% black

Kansas City Mo.-32% black

Atlanta Ga- 61% black

Cincinnati Oh- 43% black

Washington DC- 60% black

North Charleston SC- 49.4% Black

Reading Pa.- 12% Black, 37.3% Hispanic

Newark NJ- 53% black, 30% Hispanic

Little Rock Ark- 40% black

San Bernardino Ca- 47.5% Hispanic, 16% Black

Orlando Fl- 27% black, 17.5 Hispanic

 

This has nothing to do with the right to carry a concealed weapon.

It has every thing to do with race, jobs, schools/ lack of
choice of schools, parents (fathers in the home), keeping repeat offenders in
jail, better morals, respect for the law, each other.

 

ALL OF THESE THINGS GO HAND AND HAND WITH LIBERALISM. 

These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc.
Ronald Reagan- 40th Anniversary of D-Day

Kaye: "In 1995 there were

Kaye: "In 1995 there were fewer than 800 applications for concealed
weapons here. 'Keeping Them Honest,' we checked, and today there are
29,000 permits to carry."

I wish she would clarify this quote because from what I interpret she is leading people on. At first she's saying 800 people applied in 1995 but then says that today there are 29,000 permits to carry. Does she mean 29,000 applied for a concealed weapons permit or have in total up to date? If it's the latter she is being sneaky with her quote and making it seem as if 29,000 people applied for a permit. That would be a 3,625% increase which I highly doubt.

Switzerland, Israel, TX, AK

Hey Randi, if guns are freewill-depriving machines which only lead to more violence, can you explain Switzerland to meThere, every able-bodied male citizen is required to own one of two types of gun.  For some strange reason, crime is a rarity there. 

Or, try Israel, where street crime is a rarity, as the population is armed to the teeth.  If not for the constant threat of terrorist activity, Israel would be a very safe place, not because its citizens are sheep waiting to be slaughtered, but rather because they are wolves you'd rather not agitate in any way. 

I felt quite safe living in TX and AK, two very gun-friendly states, and I suspect that this had something to do with the fact that both states are VERY full of guns and people who know how to use them.  Strange, isn't it?  Well, only if you are a Leftist, I guess...

Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.

lack of guns = safety, why are prisons a dangerous place?

Good point,

If lack of guns (or guns In the right hands..)= safety, why
are prisons such a dangerous place.

Ohhhhhhh that’s right it’s the people!

Who would have guessed!

So where would you feel safer Randi..?

In a Dinner on opening day of deer season (where every one
is armed) or.. a prison (I will even give you a safe room to hide in). You can
even make it a female prison.. Where no one but “the police” have guns.

 

I had the same discussion with my sister in law on a train
in Italy. She is about 5ft tall maybe 100 lbs. I’m 5ft 9, 250 lbs. I told her
that I could kill her before they could even stop the train. She looked
horrifed, I told her, what or who could stop me if that is what I set in my
mind to do? She said that the police would come. Really? What would be the
fastest they could get to your house? (if you got to the phone). If its
anything more then 4 min. you are dead. What is the great equalizer? A gun.
Then my wife chimed in (a former liberal) and told her that she has a CCW
permit as well.

The odd part is, it would seem that women would be more in
favor of guns then they are. It does not matter how big the man that is attacking
you is, two shots to center mass will stop the attack.

 

My wife was raped when she was 19. That will never happen
again. Unless a man can get past 10 rounds of 9MM.

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Ronald Reagan- 40th Anniversary of D-Day

On the reality of law enforcement and a Korean proverb

 She said that the police would come. Really? What would be the fastest they could get to your house? (if you got to the phone). If its anything more then 4 min. you are dead.

People do not get what the role of the police (er, power-trippers) is.  When they are not power-tripping and harassing drivers on the road, and otherwise making themselves to be pains in the a$$, they serve as a deterrent.  Sometimes for various reasons, that deterrent is not enough.  They do not always get the bad guys, and they sometimes even get the wrong people.  Sure, they could get the bad guys and send them to prison, but it sure doesn't alter the reality of death, as your example illustrates. 

The Koreans have a saying that I think is quite appropriate, and I was reminded of it when I read your post: The law is far, the fist is near. 

Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.

They would get there to

They would get there to draw that chalk line around your
body.

These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc.
Ronald Reagan- 40th Anniversary of D-Day

Why do Libs not get it?!

It amazes me that Libs STILL do not understand simple concepts.....CRIMINALS DO NOT OBEY THE LAW! Making firearms harder for decent, trained, law-abiding citizens to aquire is AWLAYS a bad idea...just ask Great Britain, where owning a gun was banned. Look up what happened to the crime rate.....

Example after example exists on this, but still they have blind eyes and deaf ears.

My wife was home alone when I was traveling for business. We lived in a ground floor apartment. She called me in a panic because some @$$h**e was trying to open the glass slider door....what should she do? I told her....Go get the 9mm (I still own this gun), bring it out in front of the window....load it, chamber it and make sure he sees you do it! She said his legs couldn't move fast enough in the opposite direction....he was off like a shot running for his life! Hmmm...coincidence...I think not!

This isn't rocket science....making the playing field level for all is a great way to reduce crime. Less potential victims for criminals...less potential crime...pretty easy math!!!

"More than 85 percent of

"More than 85 percent of the hundreds of murders in Philadelphia this year have been committed with a firearm."

Unless they were committed with legally-acquired firearms, that statement is completely irrelevant to any "gun control" legislation at all. After all, laws only apply to law-abiding people, by definition.

2004

'Can I get me a hunt'n license?'

JDW

Sen Clinton: Founder of Media Matters