MSNBC's Abrams Hits CNN's Amanpour for Defending Islamic Fundamentalism


On Monday's MSNBC Live with Dan Abrams, host and MSNBC General Manager Abrams attacked CNN's series God's Warriors for "a defense of Islamic fundamentalism and the worst type of moral relativism," and as "shameful advocacy masked as journalism," quipping that series host Christiane Amanpour "avoided getting bogged down in objectivity." Abrams further took exception with Amanpour for comparing those who support Israel's defense strategy to Muslim terrorists: "Christians and Jews, for example, who support Israel's strategy for self-defense are just as much God's warriors, according to Amanpour, as the Islamic radicals who blow themselves and others up in an effort to destroy the world as we know it." (Transcript follows)

After contending that Amanpour attempted to "understand" violent Muslim fundamentalists without trying to "understand" evangelical Christians and Israelis, Abrams played a clip of Amanpour in which she "blames the warrior Jews" for the anger of radical Muslims. Amanpour: "Muslims, like people everywhere, abhor terrorism. The small minority who resorts to violence is symptomatic of something many of us have failed to understand: the impact of God's Jewish warriors goes far beyond these rocky hills. The Jewish settlements have inflamed much of the Muslim world."

Abrams soon brought aboard Muslim author Asma Hasan, Air America host Reverend Wilton Gaddy, and terrorism analyst Steve Emerson for a discussion of the topic, during which Emerson labeled the CNN series as "the most unfair series" and "the most dishonest series on television that I've seen in my 20 years of reporting or covering terrorism." Emerson further criticized Amanpour for not showing examples of violent Muslim extremists in Europe such as the Madrid and London bombings, and for portraying Jews and Christians as "demons." Emerson: "I thought that, in part, the actual dogma of this series actually focused mainly on Jews and Christians as being the demons, and in fact, one could accuse her of actually engaging in anti-Christian and anti-Semitic behavior by the selection of facts she chose to choose."

Abrams showed a clip of Amanpour speaking to Christian youth leader Ron Luce of Teen Mania Ministries during which she contended that campus rules prohibiting female students from wearing short skirts and prohibiting male students from using the Internet without supervision reminded her of "totalitarian regimes," and compared the female dress code to what the Taliban did. Amanpour: "But that's what the Taliban said. They kept women in their house because men couldn't be trusted around them."

Below is a transcript of relevant portions of the Monday August 27 MSNBC Live with Dan Abrams:

DAN ABRAMS: For the past week, CNN has been proudly promoting and then celebrating its series called God's Warriors, presumably a look at radicals of different religions willing to fight for their cause. My take: I think it's fair to say it was not what it claimed or promised to be.

CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR: So we're not here lobbying for or advocating for or drawing conclusions, either political, religious or ideological-

ABRAMS: Oh, yes they did. CNN should have called it what it was: a defense of Islamic fundamentalism and the worst type of moral relativism. For each of three nights, CNN devoted two hours to the, quote, "warriors" of each religion: Jewish, Christian and Muslim. But rather than distinguish between Islamic terrorists who utilize fierce violence to achieve warped goals, and the merely fiercely religious or even just those who fiercely believe in the state of Israel, Christiane Amanpour avoided getting bogged down in objectivity. Christians and Jews, for example, who support Israel's strategy for self-defense are just as much God's warriors, according to Amanpour, as the Islamic radicals who blow themselves and others up in an effort to destroy the world as we know it. A handful of the most radical of the Jews and Christians who can almost all be identified by name are highlighted. The violent Islamic fundamentalists are, quote, "understood," with no comparable effort to "understand" the evangelical Christians or Israelis. Amanpour even offers an explanation for the angry radical Islamists. She blames the warrior Jews.

AMANPOUR: Muslims, like people everywhere, abhor terrorism. The small minority who resorts to violence is symptomatic of something many of us have failed to understand: the impact of God's Jewish warriors goes far beyond these rocky hills. The Jewish settlements have inflamed much of the Muslim world.

ABRAMS: She takes Jewish and Christian political movements, even Jewish lobbyists in Congress, and lumps them in with God's warriors, thereby equating them with the radical Muslim warriors, the quote, "much feared and little understood." Maybe most troubling, much of the warrior Muslim program highlights not the warriors themselves, but claims of discrimination against Muslims.

AMANPOUR: Geneive Abdo is the author of Mecca and Main Street. She says that since 9/11, the majority of American Muslims feel they're singled out for suspicion and surveillance by the government and by ordinary people. Imam Fawaz Jneid, leader of a mosque in the Hague, believes Muslims are under attack, victims of religious discrimination.

ABRAMS: What does that have to do with the warriors? She portrays Muslims as victims, while accusing evangelical Christians of playing the victim.

AMANPOUR: The religious right would have you believe that there's no mention of God anywhere in our public sphere. It's on the currency.

JEFFREY TOOBIN, CNN Legal Analyst: It's on the currency, and they say because it's on the currency, there's nothing wrong with it being in the schools, or in the courthouses, or in the Capitol.

AMANPOUR: But they also play the victim somewhat.

ABRAMS: This series was well-produced and successful, but also shameful advocacy masked as journalism. We have opinionated hosts here on MSNBC who offer opinions on a wide range of topics, including me, but I admit it when I'm advocating. In the end, this was exactly what she said it wasn't: lobbying, advocacy, and an effort, intentional or not, to have people draw particular conclusions.

...

Before we talk about some of this other stuff, Asma, what do you think about the comments that I just made?

[ASMA HASAN, Author of Why I Am a Muslim]

ABRAMS: A little history lesson for you. I covered the Oklahoma City bombing trial, and you talk to any of the prosecutors who prosecuted the case. In the end, they don't believe that it was part of some militia effort. So that's just fiction, and that's the problem here. The facts are so important.

HASAN: But didn't Timothy McVeigh say in writings from prison that he didn't like how the government was treating Christians, how they were restricting Christians?

ABRAMS: Yeah, he didn't. He didn't. That's right. That's right. That's the beauty of this. Steve Emerson, the beauty of this is they highlight throughout the CNN piece, they highlight identifiable people, Christians and Jews, who've been arrested and convicted of various crimes. And they lump it in, and they claim this is all one big religious fundamentalism.

STEVE EMERSON, Terrorism Analyst: Right. It's so contrived, I thought that I was watching Al-Jazeera. The treatment of radical Islamic fundamentalists were given kid-glove treatment. They explain the Muslim Brotherhood as a peaceful movement. They explain jihad as a peaceful internal struggle. I mean, this was inverting reality on its head. And when they described terrorism, they could only explain it in terms of Muslims being the victims, not being the perpetrators. I felt that, I was really, I felt that the viewer here was really dishonestly treated here. And as far as the treatment of Jews and Christians, when Christian lawyers went to law school, they were called, demonized as "God's warriors." And when Jewish supporters of Israel lobbied for Israel, they were demonized as somehow causing riots throughout the Middle East. This was the most unfair series and, I think, the most dishonest series on television that I've seen in my 20 years of reporting or covering terrorism.

...

ABRAMS: Reverend Gaddy, let me ask you this. Let me play this piece of sound for you where, again, Christiane Amanpour compares some of the fundamentalist Christians to the Taliban. And I want to ask you if you think this is a fair comparison.

AMANPOUR: On campus, students must follow a strict set of rules. When I, you know, read that women have to wear skirts of a certain length and guys aren't allowed to, you know, go on the Internet unsupervised, I mean, I think, you know, totalitarian regimes.

RON LUCE, Christian youth leader: No, it's about learning to have disciplines that communicate purity, you know. The skirts' length are to keep guys from, you know, any man on the planet could be distracted, and we don't want to unintentionally create distraction.

AMANPOUR: But, Ron, that's what the Taliban said. They kept women in their house because men couldn't be trusted around them.

ABRAMS: Fair comparison, Reverend Gaddy, between a dress code and the Taliban?

[Reverend WILTON GADDY, The Interfaith Counsel]

ABRAMS: And they back it up, again, we're not just talking about individuals who we can name, but there is a large and significant movement of fundamentalist Islam, which I think ends up being minimized by equating this all. I'm sorry, Asma, I interrupted you before.

[HASAN talks about international criticism of Jewish settlement expansion]

ABRAMS: Okay, but that's fine. That's fine. But that doesn't address, look, I'm not going to have debates about the settlements here. I'm debating the bias, the overt bias of this CNN series.
...

ABRAMS: Steve Emerson, I want to play you this piece of sound. It's a final one. ... And this is again suggesting, let's listen, and then we'll talk about it.

AMANPOUR: Across Europe, Islam is the fastest growing religion, the number of Muslims tripling in the last 30 years. This increased Muslim presence and violence like the Van Gogh murder play into the hands of right-wing politicians, like Geert Wilders, a member of the Dutch parliament.

ABRAMS: All right, Steve Emerson, again, "play into the hands," the Muslims as the victims, again, throughout this whole piece.

EMERSON: Exactly. She didn't mention the Madrid bombings, she didn't mention the two London series of bombings, she didn't mention the number of attacks in Europe, throughout Europe. She didn't mention the vast amount of Wahabist radical Islamic influence and supporters in the United States. She omitted all of that in an attempt to bring the perpetrators who she claimed were right-wingers or Christians or Jews. I thought that, in part, the actual dogma of this series actually focused mainly on Jews and Christians as being the demons, and in fact, one could accuse her of actually engaging in anti-Christian and anti-Semitic behavior by the selection of facts she chose to choose.

ABRAMS: Reverend Gaddy, go ahead.

[GADDY]

ABRAMS: Well, I can tell you this, CNN is listening to this segment, so maybe they will hear you loud and clear on that and make up for what I think was really well done but ultimately shoddy journalism.


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Left loves jihad

I am trying to figure out why the left loves jihad so much. Is it because jihad wants to destroy Western civilization, and the left likes the idea?

"Left loves jihad"?

Sadly the left and the MSM have long since abandoned being guided bythe old principle of being the "Loyal Opposition" and have chose to conform to the moe pernicous methodology of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend."  And since George Bush or anyone who dares to disagree with them is now defined as their enemy they have no problem crawling into bed with all  kinds of scum just so long as their new bedmate hate GWB and or any Republican.  They have sacrifised their principles, morality and perhaps even their souls on the false alter of another false god.

I always like watching

I always like watching Emerson, he always has an attitude like "don't you already know this?" Emerson did the best job at illustrating how CNN and Amanpour had a massive collection of positives and negatives for all three religions but for her to pick the ones she did revealed an ugly bias. We'll see if CNN is proud enough to play the misinformation piece again.

 

MSNBC gets one right

First, good for Abrams. MSNBC gets one right every once in a while. (at least some individuals do.)

I was really surprised the post on this a couple of days ago didn't get a lot more response than it did: there were only a dozen comments. Maybe everyone is just so used to Amanpour's blatant bias that there seems to be no point in commenting on it?

This is what I posted there (I have corrected the spelling of her name and added some emphasis):

 

Amazing how Amanpour manages to make Christianity into the "totalitarian regime" but apparently has nothing but admiration for the restrictions of Islam on women.

Her tone is critical when speaking of the Christians:


On campus, students must follow a strict set of rules.... No secular music or television. No "R"-rated movies. No alcohol. No drugs. No dating.[ ] ...women have to wear skirts of a certain length, and guys aren't allowed to, you know, go on the Internet, unsupervised. And I think, you know, totalitarian regimes.


But oh, so respectful to the Muslim woman:


Rehan's jihad isn't violence, not even close, but it is public. It is a deliberate display of faith, not just covering her head, but swearing off alcohol, praying five times a day, which isn't easy in a typically busy American life...

(You know she doesn't get to watch secular TV or movies either.)

and

Rehan insists that covering up is not a sign of a woman's inferiority, as many Westerners believe, but a sign that Muslim women refuse to be degraded, as she feels they can be in American culture.

So, if a Christian woman swears off alcohol and drugs, and wears knee-length skirts, it's because of totalitarian Christianity. For a Muslim woman, it's a refusal to be "degraded."

Unbelievable. Just unbelievable.

Quite a few Jews in the

Quite a few Jews in the MSM

Christine did some misunderestimating...

Islam as a one way street

Islam will not, and should not be regarded as a true religion until people are free to chose to NOT TO BE Muslims without being placed under a death sentence.  Throughout the west and in other places in the world people are free to chose their religious life and change it when and how they see fit.  Until Islam adopts this simply human right it will never be anything more than false god worship and a cult of death, justly deserving the scorn of the rest of the world.

Signs of a cult....

When I see a "religion" whose "holy book" is written by one man and he is revered to the to the point that if you say something negative a riot breaks out. That’s a sign of a cult. If you leave the “religion” and you are threatened with a death sentence, that’s a sign of a cult. Islam is a mid-eastern cult and not a religion. Their are others that are more subtle, but these relate to Islam. 

no islam bashing here:)

Islam is a fantastic faith - OBL-types are no true Muslims, OBL is like the David Koresh of the middle east:)

Actually

OBL's vision is far closer to the "main stream" interpritation of Islam than most people suspect.  The ongoing conflict between Sunni and Shitte aside they both beleive that the rest of the world must submit to their backwardness or pay a heavy price for our refusal.  Nowhere in the middle east is there any seperation of religion and state, and that is the underlying problem.  It's also the biggest mistake the Bush administration made in the aftemath of the fall of both the Taliban and Saddam.  He allowed them to incorporate Sahria into their new government constitutions.  Ignoring the lesson we taught the Japs after WWII that we would not allow Shinto to be taught in government schools or be used as an instrument of political or governmental policy.

Kudos to Dan

As one who believes in giving credit where it is due, here's a big "Thank You" to Dan Abrams for having the gumption to take CNN to task for this thinly veiled defense of muslim terrorists.  Has anyone else in the electronic media done the same? This was an evil, despicible presentation and CNN should be the target of a nationwide boycott by fair minded people for airing such treasonous trash.  One has to wonder what they were thinking. I also have to wonder what the families of 9/11 victims are thinking about this. 

And also to Dan's credit, he was mostly skeptical of the charges against the Duke lacrosse players when he had his afternoon show and made no bones about it.  Now if he would only do something about Chrissy . . . 

 Don't leave out the most

 Don't leave out the most rabid of all: Keith-O.

 Christine, how did you get your name, and why haven't you changed it since you obviously have no regard for Christ or Christians?  She should have gone the way of Peter Arnett.  CNN is an abomination, 24 hours a day.

Anyone who says they support the troops but not the mission is a liar. 

I'll second that

Abrams deserves credit. I still don't understand why Abrams, who is theoretically in charge over there, doesn't rein in Olbermann's excesses. But in this instance, he did get it right. Nice job.

Amanpour

Amanpour, an Iranian Christian, seems to have a problem identifying who she. For years, she has not only put down the Jewish faith, but her own as well while championing the cause of Islam.

In doing her ‘dance of the seven vails’ called 'Jusaism Bad - Islam Good', she has managed to ingratiate herself among the various Middle Eastern factions thus insuring access to them for her one-sided ‘CNN reports’ and that, someday, they won’t behead her.

The program director of a

The program director of a network that has news anchor (ahem) Keith Olbermann on is complaining about "advocacy disguised as journalism"?

Gosh, life is strange. 

SMG 

 

 

Strange, other CNN biases

Strange, other CNN biases don't seem to bother Abrams...

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

Self-Serving Danny Boy

You get a Gold(-a Meir) Star.

Daniel Abrams took umbrage primarily for the assault on the homeland - Israel.

Abrams has never been mistaken for a Republican or a Conservative.  He's a died in the wool Democrat and a Liberal who would work for the ACLU if they paid better.

That Christianity was attacked is merely a lucky coincidence.  It really was all about Israel and Jews that had Daniel up in arms.

I suppose we should be grateful to have Abrams expose Amanpour for the effete elistist Islamist sympathizer propagadist.  Just don't be confused that Abrams has seen the light of Liberal MSM bias.  Tomorrow he will ignore any anti-American, anti-Republican, anti-Christianity vomitus from his own network let alone Amanpour's. 

Killing them with kindness isn't working.  Time to get scrappy with the Donkeys.

A Query for Christiane Amanpour

I have a query for Christiane Amanpour.

You say:

"Muslims, like people everywhere, abhor terrorism. The small minority who resorts to violence is symptomatic of something many of us have failed to understand: the impact of God's Jewish warriors goes far beyond these rocky hills. The Jewish settlements have inflamed much of the Muslim world."

You and other disgraces of your ilk try to lay the blame for Middel East violence at the feet of Jewish people.  So I ask you:

If Israeli's have so inflamed Muslims Ms. Amanpour, is the Muslim on Muslim violence on Iraq then just practice to learn how to better kill Jews? 

Hypocrite maybe?

If she believes it's wrong to lump all Muslims together (though, I'd like to believe that most people don't), then how can she justify lumping all Christians and Jews together?  

I'm not sure if she is or not, but, you could've fooled me...

Does anyone think that

Does anyone think that Danny Boy would condemn this if it were on his network?

 

That I doubt...

 

-cs™

 

"The great enemy of the truth is very often not the
lie -- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth --
persistent, persuasive and unrealistic."

Video here. The only thing

Video here.

The only thing you should feel when shooting insurgents is the rifle recoil.

 

Amanpour was born in London

Amanpour was born in London to an Iranian father named Mohammad and a British mother. After her birth, the family moved to Tehran during the reign of the Shah of Iran...

So, with that little information about her, there's no doubt bias existed in her reporting. She did mention during her report on the Muslims segement that ...she used to know these streets and roam around- or something to that effect.

By the way, Amanpour's housemate during her college days at Rhode Island U. was JFK, Jr...