On Friday's Countdown, MSNBC's Keith Olbermann charged that the "endless war and endless spending" had "crippled our ability to repair or just check our infrastructure," as he hosted Air America's Rachel Maddow in a discussion blaming the Minneapolis bridge collapse on Iraq war spending and unwillingness by conservatives to raise taxes. Olbermann quoted Minnesota Democratic Senator Amy Klobuchar's charge of "messed up priorities" and New York Democratic Congresswoman Louise Slaughter's labeling of bridge collapse victims as "almost victims of war" because "perpetual war depletes the funds available to maintain our infrastructure." Maddow charged that America is "paying this incredible deadly price for a brand of American conservatism that hates and demeans government." (Transcript follows)
Olbermann teased the August 3 show: "The bridges of every county: How the endless war and endless spending crippled our ability to repair or just check our infrastructure."
About 8:20 p.m., after relaying to viewers that Minnesota Republican Governor Tim Pawlenty had reversed his opposition to raising the gas tax to fund infrastructure projects, Olbermann cited charges by Democrats that Iraq war spending was repsonsible for a lack of bridge repairs. Olbermann: "Earlier today, Minnesota Senator Amy Klobuchar referred to the, quote, 'messed up priorities' by spending half a trillion dollars in Iraq while bridges crumble at home. New York Congresswoman Louise Slaughter joined the connection even tighter, calling the bridge victims, quote, 'almost victims of war' because our, quote, 'perpetual war depletes the funds available to maintain our infrastructure.'"
Ignoring the massive amounts of non-war government spending that could be diverted to pay for infrastructure repairs, Olbermann pressed for tax increases to yield the required funding as he implied that conservative views on taxes are not "sane" and "reasoned." Olbermann: "Republicans, including Governor Pawlenty, President Bush, have demonized taxes, demonized any Democrat who ever said tax hike could improve our lives, save our lives at home. Does the governor's reversal tonight suggest maybe somebody is going to start having sane, reasoned discussions about taxes and when they're needed?"
During her response, Maddow charged that America is "paying a deadly price" for anti-government conservatism, even invoking Ronald Reagan. Maddow: "We're a country that, as a whole, is paying this incredible deadly price for a brand of American conservatism that hates and demeans government, and that has defined any sort of spending on anything for the common good as something that's soft-headed and suspect. And it's a brand of conservatism that goes back to, you know, Reagan's first inaugural where he defined government as the problem and to Barry Goldwater before him, and the Republican party right now defines itself as uncritical inheritors of that legacy. And while they may be benefitting from it politically, we're all paying the price for it in terms of a country that's just falling apart. It's a national disgrace."
Below is a transcript of the segment from the Friday August 3 Countdown on MSNBC:
KEITH OLBERMANN, in opening teaser: The bridges of every county: How the endless war and endless spending crippled our ability to repair or just check our infrastructure.
...OLBERMANN: But comfort is not all that the city of Minneapolis seeks right now. In addition to the bodies to be found, there is the undiscovered truth, the explanation for how this happened. Tonight, the U.S. Transportation Department announced it will investigate the Federal Highway Administration, the agency which inspected the I-35 W bridge. Questions investigators will consider: whether the agency followed recommendations last year to improve oversight on deficient bridges and the federal funding for them.
OLBERMANN: Governor Tim Pawlenty has called this an engineering issue. We do not know whether his engineers felt constrained by his budgets. But just tonight, a spokesman for the governor announced he will consider raising the state's 20-cent-per-gallon gas tax, an increase he vetoed before, even though the money would have gone to state infrastructure. Earlier today, Minnesota Senator Amy Klobuchar referred to the, quote, "messed up priorities" by spending half a trillion dollars in Iraq while bridges crumble at home. New York Congresswoman Louise Slaughter joined the connection even tighter, calling the bridge victims, quote, "almost victims of war" because our, quote, "perpetual war depletes the funds available to maintain our infrastructure." By some estimates, bringing all of America's bridges up to satisfactory condition would take nearly $190 billion. The Iraq war now estimated at costing about half a trillion. It almost takes a Rhodes Scholar to analyze all this. Fortunately, Rachel Maddow is that, and more, including host of her own show every week night on Air America radio. Rachel, great thanks for your time.
RACHEL MADDOW: Hi, Keith.
OLBERMANN: Republicans, including Governor Pawlenty, President Bush, have demonized taxes, demonized any Democrat who ever said tax hike could improve our lives, save our lives at home. Does the governor's reversal tonight suggest maybe somebody is going to start having sane, reasoned discussions about taxes and when they're needed?
MADDOW: I hope so. I really do. But I have to tell you I'm just so steamed about this, and everybody who I've talked to about it this week in my personal life and on the radio, everybody that I know who I've talked to about this is steamed as well because there aren't Republican bridges and there aren't Democratic bridges and there aren't Republican sewers and Democratic levees. We're a country that, as a whole, is paying this incredible deadly price for a brand of American conservatism that hates and demeans government, and that has defined any sort of spending on anything for the common good as something that's soft-headed and suspect. And it's a brand of conservatism that goes back to, you know, Reagan's first inaugural where he defined government as the problem and to Barry Goldwater before him, and the Republican party right now defines itself as uncritical inheritors of that legacy. And while they may be benefitting from it politically, we're all paying the price for it in terms of a country that's just falling apart. It's a national disgrace. And I hope the governor's change of heart is a sign of a change in it, but the fact that the President this week still used an anti-tax, anti-government piece of rhetoric to explain why he's going to veto kids' health insurance and why he's going to veto waste water infrastructure bills doesn't make me feel like it's going to change any time soon in that party.
OLBERMANN: Yeah, that was a privately owned bridge now, in which the owners were threatening to move the bridge to another state. They'd be able to get the tax money under those circumstances.
MADDOW: Sure.
OLBERMANN: But is it fair, is it premature to blame spending shortfalls for this when the state rates so well on its bridges in Minnesota? And we have no evidence at this point that anyone, any organization warned that the 35W was in anything resembling imminent trouble or needed more money than it was getting for upkeep.
MADDOW: Well, that's the single scariest thing about that, is that Minnesota fares so well compared to the rest of the country in terms of its infrastructure and its upkeep. That's the scariest thing. The fact that a major bridge like this carrying between 140 and 180,000 cars a day can be rated at 50 percent structurally sufficient, and that doesn't slate it for replacement or major repairs, because compared to what else we've got going on in the country, that actually means it's looking pretty good. That's the scariest element of all of this. If you only look, if you only look at bridges that carry 190,000 cars a day, there are at least 20 that rate worse than that bridge that collapsed in terms of their structural sufficiency. Minnesota is actually looking good. They're trying to define this as an anomaly. It's the scariest part of all of it.
OLBERMANN: Right. You're right. If this is the leadership state and its bridge has fallen down, what happens to the 50th ranked state?
MADDOW: Exactly.
OLBERMANN: But now the White House wants all the states to shoulder as much of the burden of government and governance as possible. Is that some sort of variety or mutation of a push for small government, the original principled idea, or an attempt to disperse accountability so that, you know, corporations and contractors and such can get to the public trough more easily? What is it?
MADDOW: Well, I think it's a way to deflect accountability for this specific crisis on one hand. But it also denies the historical truth in the United States that 80 percent of highway money comes from the federal government, and this government would like it to seem like this is some sort of state problem. The initial response immediately from the White House was, well, the state's responsibility was to maintain that bridge, and they should have known about it, and it was their responsibility to act. No. The federal government is 80 percent responsible historically for highway funding in this country. And to have an anti-government demeaning government, demeaning of any spending on the public good, bit of rhetoric coming out from the White House on the very week that this interstate collapsed tells me that all they're planning on doing is deflecting, deflecting, deflecting the responsibility.














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Olbermann's Raging Hatred Blinds His Analysis
August 4, 2007 - 17:05 ET by ThalpyOlbermann knows most of the words, but he doesn't know what they mean. The issue isn't IF the various governments (Federal, state or local) have the funds to allocate to infrastructure, but have they the will to do so. By the way, didn't the citizens of Minneapolis get to kick in for the baseball stadium?
If Jesus came through the door, Keith would find something to bitch about.
My sister in Minneapolis
August 4, 2007 - 17:50 ET by ahusserMy sister in Minneapolis called me (on the day of the collapse) to say the family was ok after the bridge collapse. I wondered out loud to her when Bush and/or Iraq was going to be brought up as the cause of the collapse. My sister seemed rather surprised and skeptical that anyone would blame the President for something like this. Am I prescient or what. The knee-jerkers like Olbermann are so predictable (and stupid).
>By the way, didn't the
August 4, 2007 - 21:05 ET by Conservative in the Arts>By the way, didn't the citizens of Minneapolis get to kick in for the baseball stadium?
No. It's a county wide tax. Plus all of Minnesota for the initial 90 million, and the county is stuck with any extra costs, which is why they've been low balling their dealings with land deal. The court battle over it is done and awaiting the judgement by Aug 20th.
But the real story is how the gas tax of 20 cents a gallon hasn't been going to fixing roads or bridges but pet projects.
Iraq has nothing to do with
August 4, 2007 - 17:48 ET by mlongIraq has nothing to do with that damn bridge and attempting to use the deaths of those at the
collapse for political points is really low even for KO...Bush signed a $286.4 billion six year transportation reauthorization bill on April-10,2005 that covers federal fiscal years 2004-2009..so it's not a shortage of
money but how the money is spent....Senators,Congressmen,State and Local officials divert the funds for
their own pet projects(thats what happen to the levees in NO),it's a problem that crosses both parties and has
gone on for decades...including during KO's buddy Bubba time in the White House....but remember KO is a "journalist" who only "occasionally" gives personal opinions.
I've said before KO is only one "Special Comment" away from blaming Bush for 9/11 and each day it seems I'm closer to being proven right..he's already blamed him for having Tillman murdered and now for causing that bridge to collaspe so why not the 9/11 attacks....the only real question is when that happens will MSNBC step in and say enough is enough?
*Sheehan-vs-Pelosi*
"This could get ugly"
Olby
August 4, 2007 - 17:55 ET by ConservativeRexOlby is a coward. Do not expect him to do a man's job, it is beyond his capabilities. You would as soon as ask a cabbage head jellyfish to stand upright. Even a cabbage head has more of a spine then Olby! I have read a few of his "worst person" awards, he must own no mirrors in his home or office. Ignore the insect, perhaps he'll crawl away.
Bizarro-world continues. Democrats lurking, please help me out!!
August 4, 2007 - 18:09 ET by sarcasmoI swear I am not making this up. I just saw Fox News "conservative" comentator Fred Barnes advocate higher taxes and higher spending on "infrastructure" including, specifically, a higher gasoline tax. And this is the paid "conservative" guy on the network you people are boycotting? What the ____ am I missing? Did Colmes infiltrate this guy's brain or something?
JMR
Rally online with fans of Dr. Ron Paul.
This is just another sample
August 4, 2007 - 18:38 ET by Bobby JerseyThis is just another sample of Ubermann having a "yes" person on his show and not having the guts to have anybody on that might disagree with him. To get a socialist from Air America on to have a sensible conversation, that is really taking a large step of journalism UBB!! He really is a joke!! "This the 1,545 day of stupidity of Keith Obermann"
predictable
August 4, 2007 - 19:06 ET by Rob84So predictable. Olbermann could have a hangnail and it would be Bush's fault.
I don't suppose
August 4, 2007 - 20:08 ET by Prester JohnOlberman mentioned the fact that Minnesota is sitting on a $1 BILLION surplus in the state coffers?
http://www.stateline.org/live/details/story?contentId=200234
Bridge Collapse
August 4, 2007 - 21:07 ET by djm159It is easy to understand how Olberman only has such a very small limited audience. The bridge was reported as defective in the 1990s. To my knowledge we were not in Iraq then, we were simply enaging in wag the dog wars. Why wasn't something done in the 90s? Could it be like the levees in New Orleans? Did every bridge and levee in America go bad under Bush? Stop playing the blame game and start showing some respect for the families of those who perished.
Minnesotans like to say that
August 4, 2007 - 21:11 ET by Conservative in the ArtsMinnesotans like to say that we have fall, spring, winter and road construction seasons. And with any large growing city, roads are a big deal. Traffic problems abound everywhere and they are getting ready to do a major overhaul of a very bad area of 35W and crosstown, just a few miles south of this bridge. It's not about lack of funding, it's about what fire to put out first.
what fire to put out first.
August 4, 2007 - 22:17 ET by ThreePuttinDudeThats the Libs strategy. Start as many fires as possible, and eventually one will shoot out of control for the media to screach about.
They've done this successfully for as long as I can remember. Now they, (the big media) have us to contend with. I refuse to call them Main Stream Media, there is nothing main stream about them.
They gave themselves that title, we should take it away from the self anointed pinheads.....LOL
CITA, Great to see you,
August 4, 2007 - 22:44 ET by BlondeCITA,
Great to see you, friend.
For the ten months I lived in the Twin Cities (yikes...no wonder I streaked straight back to Florida!)....the saying was "Winter & Road Construction".
I hated Crosstown. I lived in Eden Prairie and worked at a Vet Hospital over on East Lake. It was the commute from hell....and this was many, many years ago.
I was shocked to see the bridge disaster. I know that area pretty well. The scary part is that we all put our lives in the hands of these (often times) inept government inspectors, FAA clowns, etc. I don't know how we can go about our daily lives without it....but it's time we demand some accountability for people whose salaries we pay and who get paid to protect the public interest by actually doing their jobs.
Hi Blonde!
August 5, 2007 - 13:05 ET by Conservative in the ArtsI couldn't get ahold of any of my family that still lives there for quite a while because of the cell phone overload. But all are counted for. My sister drove over that bridge that morning! I don't live in Minneapolis any more, but often drive thru it on national tours I'm on, or when going to visit family.
And I hope you really didn't "streak".....it gets mighty cold here. hehe
CITA, Mighty cold is
August 5, 2007 - 13:09 ET by BlondeCITA,
Mighty cold is correct. (And no...I didn't mean that literally...but that was pretty funny).
Glad your family is fine.
So how are things out in lib-land?
blonde
August 5, 2007 - 13:19 ET by Conservative in the Artsdoing well, just such a busy summer of freelancing! I was turning down work so I could spend more time with my daughter. On one job I got to work with someone who had a bumber sticker that read: "I hated Bush before it was cool"
But, I've hoooked up connections to the company that Pres. Bush hired to do all his set up of lights and sound for the 04 elections, and did the sound for the inaugural speach. The president of that company told me: "I want your card" And they're setting up to try and get hired for the Republican convention in Minneapolis......here's hoping!
I'll see your anecdotes,
August 4, 2007 - 21:12 ET by SMGalbraithI'll see your anecdotes, Mr. Olbermann, and raise you one.
The Big Dig.
I quote: While "[t]he project was estimated at $2.8 billion in 1985, over $14.6 billion ha[s] been spent in federal and state tax dollars as of 2006".
That extra $12 billion or so could have fixed a lot of bridges.
Much of the money is there to fix things. It's just not being used properly.
SMG
remember Clinton's phrase
August 4, 2007 - 21:26 ET by Conservative Voiceremember Clinton's phrase he always liked to use when campaigning...bridge to the 21st century. It was this bridge. If a private company owned that bridge it would of been maintained. Same thing with Katrina...the problem with the levies was well known, but it wasn't a priority because it was the responsibility of a faceless government worker....and we want to turn over the health care over to them? Here is the challenge to our beloved liberals...name one thing that Government does better than the private sector?
CV-- I am not a liberal, but I know the answer---
August 5, 2007 - 13:09 ET by misterbillCV-- I am not a liberal, but I know the answer---
TADA!!!! Wasting money!!! TADA!!
This Needs The Counterpoints...
August 4, 2007 - 21:38 ET by Wildcatter1980...such as the list of Congressional earmarks and the list of all the big ticket NON-infrastructure items that Minnesota spent millions of $'s on instead of repair or replacement of the I-35W bridge, not to mention that the state has or very recent has had a budget surplus of funds. In fact, the latter is why Gov. Pawlenty would not go along with raising taxes (or so I have heard).
Just my $0.02
I'm quite sure that if
August 4, 2007 - 23:46 ET by Prez RudyI'm quite sure that if Olberdunce suddenly broke out in mucus-filled hives and a hoard of locusts started flying out of his well fed behind, he would insist Bush had something to do with it. If the situation in Minneapolis were'nt so tragic, this would be such a laugh.
Olberdouche is a really
August 5, 2007 - 01:37 ET by fitzfongOlberdouche is a really sad, lonely, bitter shell of a man. He was a unique talent as a sports newsman, with a good sense of humor. However, he's in way over his head outside that comfort zone. Now he's an ignorant, lazy, angry faux-curmudgeon. MSDNC came along and only puts up with his whiny BS because his miserable ratings are still better than the rest of the unwatchable programming on that "network". Until recently, Olberdouche was never able to hold down a job because he couldn't keep it together. Over 50, single because no one can stand to be in his company for more than 5 seconds, Olby keeps getting promotions at the peacock because they're dumber than he is. Now he's going to be hosting Sunday Night NFL on NBC with serial lightweight Bob Costas. Well, I won't be watching. Let someone else support his Paxil prescription/habit.
Rachel Madow: We're a
August 5, 2007 - 03:32 ET by maggieqpublicRachel Madow: We're a country that, as a whole, is paying this incredible deadly price for a brand of American conservatism that hates and demeans government, and that has defined any sort of spending on anything for the common good as something that's soft-headed and suspect. And it's a brand of conservatism that goes back to, you know, Reagan's first inaugural where he defined government as the problem and to Barry Goldwater before him, and the Republican party right now defines itself as uncritical inheritors of that legacy.
BARRY GOLDWATER????? Is she really criticizing that dear man?
Keith-boy and Manly-girl
August 5, 2007 - 06:11 ET by daveinbocaKeith-boy and Manly-girl Maddow make a formidable pair on the tube. Too bad his viewership is microscopic compared to Bill O'Reilly's or such an attractive duo might have a chance to seize the imagination of America's news-junkie niche audience!
Now Keith-boy is going to put his ratings magic to work on Sunday night football. He used to be a sports newsie, but his personality foibles somehow made him universally detested at ESPN, even by high-school classmate Chris Berman. So Keith took his personal brand of charisma into a whole new area, and was warmly embraced by people sharing the same personal magnetism and eccentric views.
A dork-wad like Keith carries about a cement-ceiling in upward mobility----it's called an obnoxious hateful "personality" almost unique in impervious cluelessness, and only Rachel can vie with him in this charm-department category.
The lack of effective
August 5, 2007 - 09:48 ET by WhoIsJohnGaltThe lack of effective critical thinking in the media is utterly astounding. Many posters have made the correct points that this bridge was not the responsibility of the Feds, and it wasn't the lack of money but the prioritization of funds and that the problem had been known for a long time.
I remember back in the eighties when I lived in New York a report came out stating that a very large percentage of NY's bridges were in a serious state of disrepair due to neglect.
I fear that the majority of people will never understand WHY governments cannot accomplish real tasks; there is no motive for 99% of civil service workers to actually produce. Those who are effective simply have no ability to produce within the environment of "can't fire anyone" workplace. An overwhelming majority of civil service workers are there not with a goal to make tomorrow better than today, but simply a place to have job security for thirty years.
Maybe it's Clinton's fault
August 5, 2007 - 10:09 ET by nkviking75Why didn't some of that much-touted surplus Clinton loved to take credit for go into infrastructure repair? When Clinton foisted the largest tax increase ever on America, why didn't bridges get fixed? Don't forget, Clinton didn't have a war going on. Two can play this game. If Bush is to blame, Clinton is also--maybe more so.
Let's not forget the earmarks. Maybe we can name the replacement bridge the Byrd-Murtha Memorial Bridge.
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
Make sure we write NBC
August 5, 2007 - 10:30 ET by USA4freedomMake sure we write NBC Sunday night football and complain
that Keith O. is one of the commentators. I just found out. Ugh. I love
football too..
I will watch with out the sound..
These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc.
Ronald Reagan- 40th Anniversary of D-Day
Okay, everybody ...
August 5, 2007 - 16:31 ET by drillanwrTalk a deep breath ... 1, 2, 3 ..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:The_Scream.jpg
The NewsHole ... Where KO seeps out from.
Hmmm ...
August 5, 2007 - 16:54 ET by drillanwrJust don't seem to recall such stretches of association being made when The Silver Bridge collapsed into the Ohio River in 1967 ... during LBJ's (D) handling/the funding of the Vietnam War ... at the same time.